Kristol plays the Marx card

A couple of weeks ago, The Nation’s Chris Hayes noted, “I was just on a conservative talk radio show where the host accused the Obamas of being Marxists. Really! I told him I spend my whole time on the left and I literally know one Marxist. One! It’s a fascinating trope of conservatism that despite the fact Marxism is more or less dead as a political movement they feel the need to keep red-baiting all these years later. What’s up with that?”

I’ve long wondered the same thing. The right seems to take inordinate pleasure in red-baiting, whether it makes sense or not. Bill Kristol, in his increasingly mind-numbing New York Times column, joins the parade today.

I haven’t read much Karl Marx since the early 1980s, when I taught political philosophy at the University of Pennsylvania. Still, it didn’t take me long this weekend to find my copy of “The Marx-Engels Reader,” edited by Robert C. Tucker — a book that was assigned in thousands of college courses in the 1970s and 80s, and that now must lie, unopened and un-remarked upon, on an awful lot of rec-room bookshelves.

My occasion for spending a little time once again with the old Communist was Barack Obama’s now-famous comment at an April 6 San Francisco fund-raiser. Obama was explaining his trouble winning over small-town, working-class voters: “It’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

This sent me to Marx’s famous statement about religion in the introduction to his “Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right”:

“Religious suffering is at the same time an expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the sentiment of a heartless world, and the soul of a soulless condition. It is the opium of the people.”

I don’t expect much in the way of intellectual seriousness from Kristol, but if he wants to understand how wrong he is, he might want to pick up his un-dog-eared copy of “The Marx-Engels Reader” again.

Like any good poli-sci student, I (way back in the ’90s) actually had to read that book for a couple of different classes. I was prepared to go into some detail explaining why Kristol doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but I noticed that Sullivan beat me to it.

Is this indistinguishable from saying, along with Marx, that all religion is an obviously false consciousness caused by the alienation of the world-historical class struggle? No, it obviously isn’t. It’s saying that economic distress does often in human history express itself in more rigid forms of religion, more reactionary cultural identification, less tolerance of “the other.” Since large swathes of human history have shown this to be true — and perfectly arguable without any materialist understanding of religion — Kristol is deliberately distorting to paint Obama as a cynical manipulator of religious faith for political ends, rather than as a genuine Christian. He’s calling him a lying, Godless communist.

You could argue, as Kristol and others hilariously will, that Lou Dobbs has no base, that fundamentalist Christianism has no problem with “the other” in a globalized world, that dozens of state constitutional amendments banning civil marriages that had never and would never have taken place were just spirited forms of civic engagement, rather than scapegoating or politicking on resentment. You could also argue, as others legitimately will, that spasms of economic distress and social discontent are unconnected. Hey: Weimar had nothing to do with Hitler. But Kristol is doing something much more pernicious: he is saying that Obama is faking faith, that his very profession of faith is a “mask” that is slipping, and that Kristol is the person to determine whose faith is genuine and who is a fraud.

A non-Christian manipulator of Christianity is calling a Christian a liar about his own faith. That’s where they’ve gone to already. And it’s only the middle of April.

The irony, of course, is that Kristol accusing Obama of elitism — the NYT columnist said the senator is “disdainful of small-town America” — is rather extraordinary in its own right.

Kristol helps define elitism. He makes a considerable amount of money arguing in support of tax cuts for millionaires and military adventures that burden low-income families disproportionately. He’s had every advantage in life, and now gets paid ridiculous sums to write obnoxious drivel for the nation’s most prestigious news outlet. Kristol probably visits small towns, only to tell his very wealthy friends about how “quaint” they are once he returns to the DC cocktail-party circuit and Fox News green-room.

Kristol’s most notable contribution to public policy in his professional life was a 1993 memo he wrote to congressional Republicans, explaining that they had to destroy any effort to pass a national healthcare bill, not because the policy was flawed, but because it would “give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and revive the reputation of the party.” If tens of millions of Americans were left uninsured, so be it — the goal, Kristol said, was to help the Republican Party, not those without insurance.

Barack Obama, meanwhile, used some clumsy language to describe a real phenomenon in struggling communities, where working-class families have fallen behind thanks to the policies embraced by Bill Kristol. Obama, whose faith is genuine, has, like Hillary Clinton, presented a policy agenda that might actually help these communities for a change.

Kristol concluded, “[W]hat has Barack Obama accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?” Oddly enough, I’m tempted to ask Kristol the same question.

Kristol concluded, “[W]hat has Barack Obama accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?” Oddly enough, I’m tempted to ask Kristol the same question.

His daddy was famous and important and got him a job in the business. Duh.

In Kristol’s defense, he was probably thinking of Zeppo when he talked about Marx.

  • The eelights seem to be rather defensive about Obama’s bang on comments. The peasants are revolting and it’s now how they look, strutting peacock war ponce Kristol.

  • Kristol is an idiot, but this doesn’t mean he’s completely wrong in how Obama is being perceived in small-town America. His comments in San Francisco behind closed doors are beyond damaging to his campaign, and IMHO make him unelectable.

  • “It’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    If Obama had just said “they cling to the political issues of guns…etc.” I think that’s what he meant.

    and [Kristol] now gets paid ridiculous sums to write obnoxious drivel for the nation’s most prestigious news outlet.

    Okay I think CB is just a tad bitter about this. 🙂

  • Just as we should never eat yellow snow, so too must we never listen to the Kristol Ass! -Kevo

  • Of course Kristol Meth thinks Obama is a fake Christian cynically exploiting religion to his own ends. Billy and his ilk know that Bush is a real Christian and Obama has never invaded a country, killed, tortured and displaced millions of people or partied while a major US city filled up with water and people died like rats.

    What’s a poor fRightWinger to think?

  • [W]hat has Barack Obama accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?”

    This Kristol guy has a blind spot the size of the Ritz. He has conveniently forgotten:

    “Here we have the haves and the have mores. Some call you the elite; I call you my base.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4daYJzyls

  • Nice to see Greg back, desperately grasping at straws like he does so well. Wasn’t it Reverend Right who was going to make Obama “unelectable” last time you were doing this dance, you idiot?

    Why are Hillarybots so fucking DUMB????????????

  • When people like Kristol visit the Hamptons they think they’ve been to small-town America.

  • Anyone who says that Obama got it wrong with his “bitter” comment, and that he was looking down his nose at them…

    *You* who say that are the arrogant, ignorant elitists. You keyboard commandos who pretend to understand the working poor just so you can use them for political props.

    Half my family comes from the economic sinkhole of south-eastern Washington state. I know how they feel and think, because they’re my kin. They tell me themselves. Damn right they’re bitter about watching our “wonderful” economy flush their jobs and opportunities down the toilet. Damn right they’re clinging to their religion and their guns and their cultural identity, because they have nothing left. And they’re not the least bit offended by Obama’s comments. They don’t think he was being elitist, **because they know he’s right**.

    Obama is absolutely correct about everything he said in that San Fransisco talk. I don’t think his wording was clumsy at all. He was completely right, and he shouldn’t even be admitting to the clumsy epithet. He should be charging full speed ahead, beating Clinton and McCain about the head and shoulders with how *they* are the arrogant elitists who are looking down their noses at the people Obama understands and wants to help. And he shouldn’t be taking a single word of it back, not even those not-really-clumsy parts.

    Even Faux “News” has broadcast a report proving that he’s in the clear with this. Don’t worry, that link goes to Crooks and Liars, not to Faux.

  • Marx: Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the sentiment of a heartless world, and the soul of a soulless condition. It is the opium of the people.”

    My father was no Marxist, so he worded it a little differently. “There are no atheists in foxholes.”

  • Anyone who doesnt believe in sweatshops, who believes in unions, believes in the minimum wage, believes in any level of government regulation of business or finance,… is a Marxist to ‘conservatives’. Their ideas are every bit as extreme and non-reality based as Marxism. Their propaganda, which has imtimidated the left for decades, has convinced the people that the economic war of all against all , without any historical justification, is the final solution; that any deviation from that position is immoral and unproductive. For many(we are not all rocket scientists or entrepreneurs, in capability or inclination), that paradigm offers at the best, meager prospects, while others accumulate wealth far beyond their needs or dreams, to the point of obscenity. It is no wonder many ‘cling’ to religion, guns, xenopohobia. Religion, guns, and wariness have their merits, but they seldom can put bread on your table in your decent residence like a good paying, relatively secure job.

  • I’d like to go ahead and invoke Godwin’s Law here and say that Hitler hated Marxists too. So, obviously Kristol is a fascist Nazi who worships Hitler.

    Just sayin’.

  • Kristol might benefit from reading Thomas Frank’s “What’s the Matter with Kansas” as well. Of the two big news stories that broke April 11, one had legs, and the other apparently did not: President Bush confesses he’s a war criminal, so let’s change the subject to Barack Obama’s elitism. Obama committed the crime of paraphrasing the argument of Frank’s book in language too blunt for the campaign trail. You would think that John McCain and Hillary Clinton could have spared a few words about White House crimes that made everything for which Richard Nixon faced impeachment seem like child’s play, but apparently they were too busy piling on.

  • My father was no Marxist, so he worded it a little differently. “There are no atheists in foxholes.”

    I’m fairly confident that there are atheists in foxholes, your oft-repeated slur notwithstanding.

  • The Nation’s Chris Hayes noted, “I was just on a conservative talk radio show where the host accused the Obamas of being Marxists. Really! I told him I spend my whole time on the left and I literally know one Marxist. One! It’s a fascinating trope of conservatism that despite the fact Marxism is more or less dead as a political movement they feel the need to keep red-baiting all these years later. What’s up with that?”

    Thanks to living in Cambridge MA, I’ve actually had the opportunity to vote for a Communist. Sadly, I couldn’t convince myself to fill in the box for him, but it was pretty exciting nonetheless.

  • Toast is right.

    I’m not an atheist, but there certainly have been many atheists in foxholes – the Spanish Civil War comes to mind. The Vietnamese National Liberation Front spent a whole decade in foxholes, and those guys were not big on religion.

    If the point is that atheists have no real convictions they would be prepared to give their lives for, that is pretty ignorant. If the point is that atheists are less willing to go around shooting people, that is a rather self-defeating argument.

    I think we’ll move on…

  • KRISTOL IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF AN ELITIST. He’s probably never even been in a Wal-Mart in his entire life. A smug authoritarian like Kristol has no right to even pretend he knows what ‘normal’ middle class people are about or how or what they think. The whole idea that he speaks for anyone but the elitist class is absurd.
    What most Americans are sick of is the republican corruption and insider trading of our democracy to big business. Look at what 30yrs of Reaganism (Kristol’s hero) has done to our country and what it has done to this elitist class.
    Kristol has no business being on TV or writing his opinions in a major newspaper as he represents only these “eltists”.

  • If the point is that atheists are less willing to go around shooting people

    Heh. Never thought about it from that angle. That’s funny.

  • No wonder Fox News Prolefeed has such a loyal and devoted following in rural, small-town and lower-working-class communities as were the subject of Sen. Obama’s concern–and then some.

    Especially considering where the Fox Prolefeed Weltanschauung smells like Producerism, and then some, to better explain their working-class appeal with distractionary and otherwise misleading prolefeed.

  • 4. On April 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, Greg said:
    Kristol is an idiot, but this doesn’t mean he’s completely wrong in how Obama is being perceived in small-town America. His comments in San Francisco behind closed doors are beyond damaging to his campaign, and IMHO make him unelectable.
    ________________

    On the flip-flop, Greg is completely wrong in how Obama is being perceived in small-town America, but this doesn’t mean he’s an idiot.

    THIS doesn’t mean he’s an idiot.

  • The point of the “no atheists in foxholes” remark is simply that when people are in crisis, they often turn to religion. I have no idea what the “oft repeated slur” is.

  • Well, what to say. Of course Kristol’s out there spouting this crap. I didn’t read his article all the way through, just like I almost never get through a Krauthammer piece. These guys are so predictable, it’s insane.

    But if I were in their shoes, I’d be doing that same. They’ve no choice this time around but to throw mud up on the wall, in the hope that some of it sticks. It’s all they got. And they know it.

  • I think the best point to make is that most of Marx’s positions have been taken up as standards by our government.

    There’s what, three or four left out of the original dozen? We have Welfare, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Freedom From Religion (though that one gets argued), Emergency Healthcare, Police, Firefighters, Right to be provided an Attorney, Miranda Rights, Housing Rights, no debtor’s prison…

  • Thanks, Tom Cleaver, for pointing out Kristol’s Trotskyite past. What would good, honest, gun loving, small town Americans think if they knew that the neo-cons they voted into office with W. Bush all started out as far left revolutionaries?

    I realize that Detroit is not indicative of the rest of America, but we have a major freeway named after an honest to goodness Communist. It was that communist who made the likes of GM pay a living wage and give benefits to the assembly line workers.

    I’d also like to chime in to commend Greg for finding yet another thing that makes Obama completely unelectable. They’re really starting to add up.

  • There are plenty of reasons to dislike Kristol, but it is disingenuous to use ad hominem arguments to reject his juxtaposition of Obama’s comments and Marx’s theory.

    If you read carefully, Obama’s comments and Marx’s theory fundamentally are making the same argument. The problem is that almost no one reads Marx carefully. Andrew Sullivan (whom Steve Benen draws on here to interpret Marx) is a notable example: he reduces Marx’s argument to “all religion is an obviously false consciousness caused by the alienation of the world-historical class struggle.”

    But that’s not what Marx said. 1. Marx never used the phrase “false consciousness.” 2. Marx’s point is that battles in the sphere of religion (or any other ideological struggle) are always rooted in society, and therefore they are not arguments taking place in some autonomous realm up in the clouds. In other words, religious debates are not about what God wants, but about what we want. Or, in yet other words, if we want to understand how and why people fight over something like gay marriage in religious terms, we also must understand how that fight is linked to the surrounding social context. To ascribe to Marx a simplistic deterministic materialism that reduces religion to an “epiphenomenon” of “material and economic conditions” is to profoundly misunderstand Marx (and materialism itself). Marx is very clear that we make our own history, and are aware of that fact. Ideas are themselves part of our social context, and have real force. Marx is simply claiming that we cannot understand ideas in abstraction from their social context.

    In this respect, then, Kristol is more right than he probably knows to connect Obama’s comment and Marx’s philosophy. Obama’s comment is precisely that to understand the politics around things like gay marriage or gun control, we must recognize the wider social context within which these debates occur. If people are frustrated about the loss of jobs for example, that frustration will be expressed in many realms, including religion. That is not to say that religion is a mere effect of economic struggle, but instead that religion can be a place where people express the frustrations of economic struggle, and (as in Marx’s opiate expression) religion can provide people a place of solace against the brutality of the world.

    Marx says this, and I argue that Obama does also. Now, as to why equating Marx and Obama is supposed to automatically function as an attack on Obama, that is nothing but the reflection of a fundamental ignorance of Marx’s own views.

  • I had a dream last night that it was November. McCain lost 41 of 50 states in the general election. A new Democrat, making history, was to be sworn in just a couple of months.

    Then I woke up, realized we still have 6 months left in this stupid election, and curled up into a ball and cried.

  • It’s expected that Bill Kristol and Fox News would make these disparaging remarks about Sen. Obama and twist his truthful remarks about the bitterness of small town Americans in this outsourced economy. But, for Hllary Clinton to go to such extremes to tear down a fellow Democrat and give the Republican slime machine fodder for the Nov. election is totally irresponsible.

    If we have 4 years of McBush we can’t thank Bill and Hill

  • Dan (31): I agree with everything you write except you’re conclusion that Kristol is in some way fair. Simply put, both Obama and Marx are making a psychological argument that religion attracts people in distress. As I pointed out earlier, right wingers also make the same argument with “there are no atheists in foxholes”. But what Kristol does, and this is the crux of the criticism against him, is to equate this psycological argument with exteme left wing politics. That is what is disingenuous.

  • The problem with Kristol and the rightist punditry in general is that they fashion their columns as rhetorical daggers, relying on tautology and various Logic 101 strategems to prove a case. Transparently insincere, rejecting any open-minded approach to the complexities of the issues Obama raises, and patently lacking in any intellectual compassion (let alone curiosity), Kristol is a hit man eager to take out Obama with a Marxist labeling: anything for The Agenda.

    It’s just as much a shame that Hillary adds to the damage, in her ambitiousness. She will hit hard on the issue of Obama’s unelectability now, in public and in full-court-press mode with the superdelegates, and it’s entirely possible, given this week, that the wound is gushing and he is indeed doomed. I’m OK, managerially, with Hillary in the White House, but for Obama to be undone by such an unlikely closing of the ranks is proof that politics is a blood sport with no place for the thoughtful, equivocal, and wisely troubled likes of an Obama.

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