Krugman explains conservatism

The president’s ardent (and purely ideological) opposition to expanding S-CHIP to include more middle-class children has been getting more and more attention, slowly but surely. As Brian Beutler noted, Paul Krugman tackles the issue today, and in the process, distills conservatism into two paragraphs.

[W]hy should Mr. Bush fear that insuring uninsured children would lead to a further “federalization” of health care, even though nothing like that is actually in either the Senate plan or the House plan? It’s not because he thinks the plans wouldn’t work. It’s because he’s afraid that they would. That is, he fears that voters, having seen how the government can help children, would ask why it can’t do the same for adults.

And there you have the core of Mr. Bush’s philosophy. He wants the public to believe that government is always the problem, never the solution. But it’s hard to convince people that government is always bad when they see it doing good things. So his philosophy says that the government must be prevented from solving problems, even if it can. In fact, the more good a proposed government program would do, the more fiercely it must be opposed.

He shoots, he scores. The proposed S-CHIP expansion is specifically targeted at children in middle-class families. Bush resisted the healthcare program in Texas even when it was geared towards low-income kids, but the current fight represents an even greater challenge to his philosophy.

Why? Because as Brian explained, “The fear for conservatives is that it’ll work so well that people will begin to realize that it might be worth paying for broader reforms with broader taxes, and so would blossom a vastly improved health care system in this country at the expense of a few very powerful interests.”

And we really can’t have that.

Matt Yglesias, meanwhile, adds an important angle.

Unfortunately, the public opinion data does tend to suggest that Bush’s staggering achievements in the field of maladministration have, in fact, boosted public skepticism of government capacity to do anything at all to some extent.

One way of thinking about what the country’s experienced since the fall of 2001 is just large-scale consequences of perverse incentives. We have a president whose ideological goals on the domestic front are, on some level, advanced every time he screws up, with his own failures, his own corruption, providing evidence for the correctness of his ideology.

I think that’s partly true. Thanks to the Bush administration’s spectacular incompetence, Americans probably have a lot less confidence in their government than before 2001. It feeds into Mitt Romney’s argument from last week: “I don’t want the guys who ran the Katrina cleanup running my health care system.”

But I’d add that public skepticism is hampered by an enormous desire for a larger government role in the healthcare system. In March 2006 (seven months after the Katrina disaster), a poll conducted by the Princeton Survey Research Associates for the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that 70% of Americans think the government spends too little on health care. Asked if they thought the average American spends too much, too little or the right amount on health care, respondents came to largely the same conclusion — 65% said people spend too much.

In other words, despite Bush’s efforts to undermine public confidence in government, Americans still want the state to spend more (and for families to spend less) on healthcare. People aren’t worried about philosophy; they’re worried about access to quality care.

And getting back to Krugman’s original point, that’s especially true when it comes to children.

According to a recent Georgetown University poll, 9 in 10 Americans — including 83 percent of self-identified Republicans — support an expansion of the children’s health insurance program.

There is, it seems, more basic decency in the hearts of Americans than is dreamt of in Mr. Bush’s philosophy.

Congress is scheduled to vote on S-CHIP this week. Stay tuned.

“I don’t want the guys who ran the Katrina cleanup running my health care system.”

Nope. I just want them running wars. And managing our nuclear stockpile.

  • Enough snark, sarabeth. I agree with the statement, I don’t want Republicans running ANY part of the government.

  • This is only one part of the republicans’ multi-pronged attack on government.

    The (lying, thieving, corrupt, and incompetent) Republicans want government to be not only mistrusted but also bankrupt. The huge tax cuts for the wealthy were designed to soak up the surplus to prevent social expenditures. The Iraq war has the added benefit (for the republicans) of forcing up public debt to ensure that there will be no additional money in the foreseeable future to expand government programs. (There is one additional benefit in that very wealthy people reap interest from holding the public debt. This is literally mortgaging America’s future to ensure welfare for the very wealthy.)

    Running a deficit can be a very good thing when expenditures qualify as investment (e.g., the postal system, roads, and the internet to increase the flow of goods and information and to decrease the cost of the same). Running a deficit for non-productive purposes (e.g., an optional war) is less beneficial: it does stimulate parts of the economy (mostly the upper strata, the way republicans have set things up). The money gets recycled a bit (primarily through defense manufacturers and their CEO’s), but mostly the expenditures simply preclude the use of national wealth for better purposes. The republicans are happy to live with the waste, as long as it prevents beneficial spending.

  • “I don’t want the guys who ran the Katrina cleanup running my health care system.”

    Personally. I’d much prefer someone who knew something about health care running the health care system — as opposed to someone who knew, presumably, about judging Arabian horses. Would that make me a member of the “effete corps of impudent snobs” or the “nattering nabobs of negativism?”

  • Single-Payer National Health Care Free To All US Persons. NOW! Go See SiCKO. The Europeans live better than us. They laugh at us.

    In America, corporate medicine throws people out on the street to die. It has to change.

  • and they have a political operative in charge of the gov’t response to major epidemics, like bird flu. If the msm just did its job there would be enough of Bush’s insanity in every federal agency to make a lot of serious careers in journalism. And provide some competition for Savage at the Globe next time the pulitzers come around.

  • [W]hy should Mr. Bush fear that insuring uninsured children would lead to a further “federalization” of health care…

    …Even though he supported a massive federalization of public education? The are two possible answers, depending on how cynical you are. For the mildly cynical, Bush is cravenly inconsistent, embracing federalized education with NCLB but shunning it with S-CHIP. For the slightly more cynical, Bush intended NCLB all along to undermine public schools. It’s all been part of the same agenda.

    We then have to ask how he bamboozled Ted Kennedy into supporting NCLB. Did Kennedy figure he’d fix it later?

  • The response to the Mitt attitude is that Republicans were in charge for Katrina cleanup. Republicans were in charge of Iraq. So if we don’t want those who ran Katrina “cleanup” then everyone should vote Democrat.

  • “There is, it seems, more basic decency in the hearts of Americans than is dreamt of in Mr. Bush’s philosophy.”

    How true. If Bush is as advertised the compassionate form of conservatism then this nation should never want to have anything ever to do with conservatism again.

  • One of my concerns about both liberals and conservatives is opposing ideas that might work because they don’t fit your established beliefs.

    Health care is the perfect example for conervatives.

    As Kevin Drum pointed out a few months ago, school vouchers is the idea that liberals are against because it might work.

    Why are our public schools OK but not great from K-12 but our college system is the envy of the world?

    Maybe vouchers would improve the system? I don’t know, maybe.

  • “I don’t want the guys who ran the Katrina cleanup running my health care system.”

    Uh, Mittster – I don’t want the guys who ran Katrina running my government, and I believe that means YOU! and the rest of your Republican Hack Crony Friends and Associates.

  • neil wilson,

    …school vouchers is the idea that liberals are against because it might work.

  • …Even though he supported a massive federalization of public education? The are two possible answers, depending on how cynical you are.

    [Grumpy]

    I’d say there’s a third reason (for the excessively cynical): BushCo family and friends benefited from the requirements of No Child Left with a Mind. ie Lackeys in the Admin steering huge contracts for mandatory scholastic materials towards the “right” people.

    There isn’t a way for someone to siphon huge amounts of cash off SCHIP into the BushLeague coffers, so BushBrat is against it.

  • neil wilson,

    Drum is wrong. There is plenty of evidence that vouchers don’t work. Do you really think after it’s been tried for this long that we still have to guess whether it might work?

    That said, there are examples of past programs that liberals opposed that have worked out. Though I would charitably say it’s because they didn’t think they would work and they turned out to be wrong, which is quite a different situation from S-CHIP, where Republicans are opposed because they’re concerned that it will work and will undermine their ideology, not opposed because their ideology says it won’t work.

    Anyway, the prime example of this on the liberal side is the Earned Income Tax Credit, which was originally a Republican program passed over the objections of Democrats. It’s turned out to be quite effective at combating poverty — and now it’s embraced by liberals and hated by conservatives.

    That should tell you a lot about the difference between the interaction of ideology and government effectiveness on the two sides.

  • “Why are our public schools OK but not great from K-12 but our college system is the envy of the world?”

    Is our college system really the envy of the world? I’m a recent graduate of one of the supposedly better state schools out there, but I didn’t think as much of it as people who hear that I went there. The U.S. may have a larger number of schools than most countries, but we have a lot of colleges. Not all of them can be that great.

  • The funny thing is, they wanted to shrink government so they could drown it in the bathtub, but by taking over the government, they have ended up in the bathtub themselves, and are circling the drain. It will be the end of Republican influence for decades.

  • Reagan really gave the impetus to this “government is the problem” meme by seeing to it that foxes were given the task of guarding all the government chicken coops thus creating a self-fulfilling closed feedback loop. Put incompetents, cronies and crooks into government where they fail and yes, people lose trust in government. Bush went way beyond even Reagan in this attack on government competence. Dems need to cry loud and often, “Government is not the problem, Republican governance is the problem.” Social Security works just fine, so does Medicare. And FEMA under the Clinton Administration was very competent even Bush praised the Clinton FEMA when he was governor of Texas,

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