Lieberman lashes out, accuses Obama staff of ‘sleazy tactics’

Last week, in an eye-catching moment on the Senate floor, Barack Obama led Joe Lieberman to the back of the chamber and, according to one report, “engaged in what appeared to reporters in the gallery as an intense, three-minute conversation.” No one could hear the senators, but Roll Call noted the body language, and said Obama “leaned in very close at times, and appeared to be trying to dominate the conversation.”

Not surprisingly, a lot of us have been anxious to hear more about what, exactly, transpired. Newsweek quoted an anonymous campaign aide who said Obama “told Lieberman he was surprised by Lieberman’s personal attacks and his half-hearted denials of the false rumors that Obama is a Muslim.”

Lieberman’s office is not at all pleased. His spokesperson told the National Review:

“The anonymous Obama campaign staffer’s characterization of the private conversation was entirely false and fabricated.”

And an anonymous Lieberman staffer told Time’s Mark Halperin:

“If the Obama campaign thinks they are going to intimidate Joe Lieberman with these sleazy tactics then they are sorely mistaken.”

Given the context, I assume Lieberman’s aides were referring to the comments to Newsweek as “sleazy,” not Obama’s discussion with Lieberman on the Senate floor (which Lieberman’s office described as “a cordial and friendly discussion“).

Either way, we’re watching the end of Lieberman’s relationship with the Democratic Party. At this point, it’s a matter of “when,” not “if.”

It’s nearly mid-June in an election year, so it’s unlikely we’ll see any major changes before the next Congress convenes, but Josh Marshall makes a compelling case that Lieberman has burned a bridge that won’t be rebuilt.

What does seem clear to me is that Lieberman’s days in the Democratic caucus, or more specifically, his days with a committee chairmanship courtesy of the Democratic caucus are numbered in months.

My assumption is that after the November election, regardless of the outcome of the presidential campaign, Joe will be stripped of his chairmanship. (This seems even more certain to me if Obama wins the general, but I suspect it will happen regardless.) Whether he’ll actually be expelled from the caucus I don’t know and probably doesn’t really matter. Once he’s stripped of the benefits he gains from it, presumably he’ll leave himself and become an actual non-caucusing independent or, more likely, start caucusing with the Republicans.

What that tells me is that Lieberman has no incentive not to make the maximum amount of trouble over the next five months both for his senate colleagues and for Sen. Obama.

Josh raised a couple of points here, both of which are important. Lieberman might as well kiss his committee gavel goodbye, and once that happens, he’ll have no incentive to caucus with the party. Lieberman probably realizes this, which will make him an unrestrained Republican attack-dog throughout the campaign cycle.

Two other angles to consider here. First, once Lieberman departs from the party altogether, the chances of Dems reaching a 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority become far slimmer, if not literally zero. Indeed, publius recently made the case that this alone was reason enough to let Lieberman stay in the caucus, regardless of his offensive behavior. If Dems go +9 on Election Day, expect this to draw quite a bit of discussion in party circles.

Second, I wonder if Lieberman has considered the implications for his reputation — not with the party, and not with his constituents, but with the media establishment he loves (and which loves him right back). Lieberman’s interesting to pundits and talking heads because he’s unusual. The media can’t get enough of unusual. Lieberman was on the Democratic ticket eight years ago, he had Obama campaigning for him two years ago, and now he’s McCain’s Mini-Me. The media can’t get enough.

But come January, if he’s just another neocon caucusing with the Republican Party and attacking Obama and the Democratic Party, he’s not quite as fascinating anymore.

Something to keep an eye on.

Does Harry Reid read this blog? Can someone forward it to him please.

  • I don’t understand why Lieberman needs to caucus with the Democrats in order to help achieve 60-seats. Will he vote against cloture on bills he agrees with out of spite?

    (Don’t answer that!)

  • There is only one good solution for Joe Lie…um… BushBorg …uh…McMuppet-Lap-Dog.

    Kick it.

    Hard.

    Into empty space—and watch it suffocate….

  • Jerusalem Joe has got to go. Saying he’s not a democrat and doesn’t belong in the senate…hell he’s doesn’t even belong in this country. He speaks more on the affairs of Israel than he does his home state or America.

    Joe knows he’s blown it with the dem party and unless republicans win the WH he’s gone. It’s not going to happen Joe. Not only will he lose his committee chair(which he uses only to prevent oversight on the Bush administration) Jerusalem Joe will not get reelected. He’s demonstrated too many times with his pony show Iraq visits and the stupidity that comes out of his mouth that he is a self serving incompetent stooge.

    The more Reid tells us what a serious gentleman he is the more it makes Reid look stupid. Seeing is believing and Joe’s incompetence and rush to war has been seen too often. A mealy mouthed authoritarian whining demeanor didn’t help much either. Soon Joe soon. Being despicable has its drawbacks.

  • The 60-votes needed to invoke cloture is no reason to keep Lieberman in the caucus. Cloture votes are rarely party-line, and just because Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats, it does not mean that he will be any more of reliable vote than he is now.

    He is tolerated because he is the vote needed to retain control of the Senate — so that Reid is the Majority Leader, not McConnell, and Democrats chair all the Committees. And that vote is only crucial if the VP is GOP, since Lieberman’s defection would put the balance of power at 50-50.

    Once we are past the election, there is no leverage that Lieberman will have. The 60-vote argument is some kind of weird argument for continuing to placate him.

  • Let’s all make an agreement to ignore Lieberman for the rest of the campaign. His only audience is the MSM and he obviously loves to needle the blogs, so maybe if we just ignore him he’ll go away. I doubt it, but I was already sick of him in 2000…

  • Does anyone really believe anything Lie berman says anymore? Of course, “sleazy” seems a little too “ethnic” for my own tastes, but I may be over sensitive.

    John McCain: Your retirement is too secure as it is, don’t you think?
    John McCain: Can’t poor sick children just get a job already?
    John McCain supporting our troops by keeping them uneducated.
    John McCain: Here’s to you, OH, PA, MI!

  • btw…when has Joe’s vote ever mattered in the count…ever. Please give his chair to someone that will make use of it.

  • The whole ’60-vote’ question that publius raised simply doesn’t make sense. We don’t have a Parliamentary Government that enforces ‘party-line’ voting — and Gingrich’s attempt to create this was disastrous.

    It literally doesn’t matter — except in one case — whether the Mugwump caucuses with the Republicans, the Democrats, or neither. (He can caucus with himself as a member of his own party.) He can, and will, vote the way he wants on stopping fillibusters, or on anything else, whatever he calls himself. (And that is far from a bad thing. The reason for America’s success has been, in large part, the ability of Independents to ‘strike off’ into areas resisted by their party, and to, later, bring their party along.)

    So we don’t need — and probably can’t get — Joe Lie’s vote for the ’60-vote questions.’ And letting him remain a Democrat or kicking him out won’t change that.

    The only — I can’t stress this enough — the only time when who Joe caucuses with matters is on the vote to ‘organize’ the Senate and to name the Chairmen and majority members of the Committees. And even then it matters only if The Mugwump has the deciding vote — as was true this Congress. If we had won one less Senate seat, or one more, the question would have been meaningless.

    And no one doubts we’ll have a bigger majority this time. The only possible loss is Landrieu, and even the Republican blogs give us NH and VA. In fact, when even ‘safe’ Republicans like McConnel and Cornyn are in danger, we should have no trouble with the 60-vote challenge — but whether we do or not, who Joe caucuses with won’t matter.

    (I seem to be at my grumpiest this morning. I think my points are well-made, but I may be making them more strongly that necessary.)

  • joey said:
    “Jerusalem Joe has got to go. Saying he’s not a democrat and doesn’t belong in the senate…hell he’s doesn’t even belong in this country. He speaks more on the affairs of Israel than he does his home state or America.”

    Joey is making the same misidentification that commonly occurs in the Corporate News Media – that of equating the Likud (AIPAC) Party as being identical with Israel. There is much broader discussion of objectives and means within the range of political parties in Israel than just the Likud Party.

    Only in the U.S. can you be branded an anti-semite for not being a 100% supporter of AIPAC and the Likud Party. In Israel, you can have the freedom to disagree with them!

  • He really needs to be disinvited to all caucusing functions immediately. Undoubtedly some election-relevant things are discussed there, even if only discussing a policy agenda. JoeLie is for all practical purposes a mole for the McCain campaign in the Democratic caucus room.

    If that means we have to shut down the Senate (except for pro forma sessions to prevent recess appointments) so it makes no difference if he turns Republican, so be it. But get him out of the caucus.

  • a) The committee chairmanships wouldn’t change even if Joe was kicked to the curb, and that is what they should do…

    …but…

    b) Harry Reid sucks.

    There’s a lot of other a)’s that could happen if b) wasn’t true.

    end of short rant.

  • As for the original topic, the confrontation, don’t we have any lip-readers out there who can pick up what was said? (First excuse I’ve seen for spending thousands of dollars on a large-screen, hi-def tv.)

  • The media can’t get enough of unusual.

    Bernie’s unusual, but the media leaves him on the plate cold and untouched. Why so little mention of the other Independent Jewish senator from New England?

  • So much for the warm smiles and backpats that MSM was throwing about. The confrontation between Obama and Snuffy Joe was as heated as it could get in the gentleman’s club (without a cane.)

    Obama must have really rattled Snuffy Joe’s cage to reply in such a snotty fashion.

  • the “when” shoulda happened 20 months ago.

    he is an “independent democrat:, whatever that is.
    a DINO.

    bye bye Joe

  • Only in the U.S. can you be branded an anti-semite for not being a 100% supporter of AIPAC and the Likud Party. In Israel, you can have the freedom to disagree with them!

    No kidding. Try being someone who is not only Jewish, very much pro-Israel, but does not fall lock-step into the sheep mentality that many American Jews have when it comes to the Israel, AIPAC/Likud

  • “Obama must have really rattled Snuffy Joe’s cage to reply in such a snotty fashion.” – Former Dan

    Bingo, FD. Snuffy Joe still thinks his name is spelled G-O-D so in his own mind he’s immune from being called out on any of his Reichwing pandering. Too bad he didn’t realize that Obama has both spine and stones enough to do just that, and rightly so.

    I hope Obama keeps doing it, too. The more these weasels find that they can’t get away with this stuff with impunity any more, the less likely they might find themselves doing it.

  • And Lieberman represents a blue state, and I heard his approval is awful. He won’t hold onto his seat, he has no value as a RINO.

    As for veto proof… if the Republican Senators don’t wise up from the thumping they get from November and stop driving off a cliff rather than negotiate, then I have no problem with simply paving the way to the cliff’s edge over and over and over again until one or two Republicans in purple districts discover their inner Lieberman.

    The great thing about Republicans is they’re predictable, so use some judo.

  • What is his motivation for all this nonsense?

    Ned Lamont.

    It was before that, IMO: Joe really discovered the media value of airing his grievances when Gore endorsed Dean in late 2003. HoJoe’s mewling about the insult got his presidential campaign more attention than it had received the entire cycle, in some ways. Pissing and moaning keeps him on the teevee and Democrats disgruntled; that’s a win-win as far as he’s concerned.

    I love Al Gore, but it would be very hard not to give him a swift kick for choosing Lieberman should we ever meet.

  • maybe Ned lamont should try again and win this time, and Obama and Hillary can campaign for NED.

  • With a Dem in the White House, and more solid control of the Senate there is little reason for the Senator from Jerusalem to stay in that body. Neither side will want him, and he will have to play caucus with himself, perhaps ala PeeWee Herman. There is definite buyer’s remorse in Connecticut, but he does have four years to go in his term, and it will definitely be his last. If he leaves, chances are he will become a formal lobbyist for AIPAC as soon as the lobbying laws permit. With McSame in the White House Joe will likely be the ambassador to Israel or some sort of job will be created for him to continue his role as Likud representative to Congress. I doubt he’s going away completely. He’s far too valuable to the neocons here and in Israel.

  • Jewjoe is a republican mole. Always has been. I remember thinking to myself back in 2000 when he was on the ticket with Gore that there is a huge portion of the American electorate that will not vote for a jew. I mean, you think people in KKK strongholds like Alabama, and Gore’s Tennessee, would vote for a jewish VP? Nope.

    I think he sabatoged Gore’s run purposely. Sure, he has a long history of being a democrat. But I wouldn’t put it past these Republican fascists to plant a mole in the same way the KGB would back in the cold war days.

  • Obama and Hillary DID campaign for Lamont — in the general. Politicians of either party rarely campaign for an insurgent against an incumbent in a primary — mostly because it creates a sympathy vote for the Incumbent. Even FDR couldn’t pull it off, and trying to probably cost him a couple of dozen more seats in the House.

  • I don’t mind Liebercain campaigning against Obama–after all, we welcome Repubs who endorse our candidates with open arms.

    But while endorsing the other party’s candidate is one thing, there are two things that absolutely can’t be tolerated:

    1. He worked for a 527 that was smearing Obama–and may have been illegally coordinating with McCain’s campaign.
    2. He’s promoting scurillous–and thoroughly debunked–lies about Obama being a Muslim.

    We need to stress these facts and make these our talking points.

  • The Dems need Lieberman this year to hold on to their present 51-49 majority, Next year, let’s kick him out.

    Having 60 Democrats (including Lieberman) won’t help anything if he doesn’t vote with us. Next year, let’s kick him out.

  • Jewjoe is a republican mole.

    Lieberman’s a sniveling, self-serving, over-moralizing piece of crap, but lay off the anti-semitic shit. That’s beyond the pale.

  • Lieberman is the ultimate free man, in that he has nothing to lose. He’s probably going to retire after his current term, so it pays for him to get lots of freemedia time. That way his post-senate career will be more lucrative. Plus payback for the Lamont thingee, just like everyone above says.

  • citizen_pain is absolutely correct. Joe used his Jewish Mind Trick to force Gore to pick him for Veep. And all off that jiggery pokery with the vote in Florida? Joe laid a curse on all of the voting machines, summoned the dead and put them in suits to conduct the Brooks Brothers Riot and stole Katherine Harris’ mind.

    But the Democratic voters still haven’t learned and now they’re letting a black Islamic commie guy sabotage the party. I wouldn’t put it past the ReThugs to team up with their pals in Al Qaeda to plant a Manchurian Candidate in the party. Will people never learn?!

    See how fucking stupid that sounds, asshole? Shut up.

  • TR, The Answer is orange: It’s called a JOKE. Jesus, pull your panties out of your asses, and shut the fuck up.
    And by the way, I am sick and tired of being labeled anti-semitic simply because I DETEST the influence the Israeli’s have in our government.
    It’s knee-jerk name calling skirts like yourselves that give fodder to the right wing. Where do you think the bleeding heart liberal political correct backlash came from anyway?

  • Thanks, orange, for pushing the right buttons and getting CP to show his true colors. (“skirts” “bleeding heart liberal”) I’m sure he will continue to be welcome to comment here, but I doubt if anyone is going to pay much attention after this.

    (Oh, and btw, you don’t use apostrophes for plurals — unless they end in a sibilant.)

  • And by the way, I am sick and tired of being labeled anti-semitic simply because I DETEST the influence the Israeli’s have in our government.

    Wailed citizen_pain as he banged his rattle on his tray.

    For the record I never said you were an anti-Semite. I said you were an asshole and I was wrong. You’re a dickheadand an anti-Semite and you don’t wash behind your ears. GFY.

  • Lieberman wants to hurt Dems as much as he can, anyway he can, and for reasons that probably have more to do with psychodrama and ego than political principle, but I second TR above (#38): ethnic slurs are wrong, shameful, must be called out whenever they occur else they divide and multiply and we all go to hell. Whether #34 is a troll, trying to smear this site so Faux News can accuse it of anti-semitism, or just someone who doesn’t like Lieberman, he/she needs to rethink values, temper, behavior. On the topic: I think Joe wants McC’s VP slot to earn what may be the singular distinction of running for VP for both major parties. Doesn’t seem like much of an achievement to me, given inconsistencies and hypocrisy required, but maybe it would get him in the Guinness Book of World Records. Somehow, that ambition seems about right. Either way, Joe will Go, and Reid has to tolerate him for now (having that power is Lieberman’s revenge).

  • What’s the point of keeping a turncoat in your caucus to increase your numbers? We know he’s a backstabber, so how do we know he’s not a spy? What else is he whispering into McCain’s ear?

  • Not sure which I detest Lieberman for more: his quisling bootlicking hypocrisy, or the fact that he acts as a magnet for all the latent anti-Semitic sentiment on the left.

  • Serious question: Are there no Jewish Republicans in the House (or Senate)? When ever I hear someone rattling their jaws about Israel his name (and religion) always comes up, but I can’t recall any other Senator getting a mention.

  • Let us concentrate on JoeLie, instead of name calling on each other. History tells us that JoeLie will embed (sleep) with anybody to get his penny. He also can change his color.To say he is patriotic to this country is an insult the rest of us.

  • Okay, Lieberman is no longer a Democrat. But Joe, have no sense of decency, sir, at long last? To facilitate the slander that Obama is a Muslim is worse than I expected of Joe Lieberman, and I wasn’t expecting much. Maybe to Joe, Christian and Muslim just blur anyway.

  • joe lieberman, the senator from isreal should be a bit careful in attacking candidates based on how strong their support for isreal is. this is the benchmark for submarine joe. the question of how much support america gives to isreal has always been assumed and has never become a public question. the basis for american support for isreal has never been publicly debated. in light of the high level of support isreal has been given and the antagonism america incurs in the muslim world for supporting isreal, it may be in isreals interest to let sleeping dogs lay. it may also well be in isreals interest to keep submarine joe on a short lease. http://www.saintpeterii.com

  • I’m with gorp on this one, Joe Lieberman knows that he’s burned one too many bridges, he expects something from McCain. VP? Or maybe some other sort of cabinet position. After his behavior, he knows that he can’t run for elected office in Connecticut ever again.

  • I think this is accurate. These are Jewish senators:
    Carl Levin
    Arlen Specter
    Frank Lautenberg
    Herb Kohl
    Joseph Lieberman
    Dianne Feinstein
    Barbara Boxer
    Russ Feingold
    Ron Wyden
    Charles Schumer
    Norm Coleman
    Ben Cardin
    Bernie Sander

    But I don’t know who has dual Israeli/US citizenship (as I have read that Joe Lieberman has. This is an interesting read if nothing else: http://www.truthinstitute.org/TEI_Discovery5.htm )

    Anyway, should this be true, I have a serious problem with dual citizenship (and I don’t care which country it is with) for any of our elected officials. Either you are 100% for America, for American interests, for American citizens, you should not be eligible as elected officials. That’s how I see it.

  • Let me further add, that if you hold dual citizenship, you should not be eligible for an appointed position.

    If you are that high up in our government, you have to be 100% for America and American interests with nothing else to consider but what works best for us (yes, I am aware there are considerations, but they should not be of personal ideology.)

  • From citizen_idiot:

    “It’s knee-jerk name calling skirts like yourselves that give fodder to the right wing. Where do you think the bleeding heart liberal political correct backlash came from anyway?”

    Um, did you really just call the people here “skirts”? Add sexist to your list of charming personal attributes as well.

    The reason that people have probably said you’re anti-semitic is because you use anti-Jewish language to ridicule Jews who support the Israeli government. Criticize the Israeli goverment ALL YOU WANT but you talk like someone who has a problem with Jews in general.

    Not to mention you complain about liberal namecalling while calling people “skirts” in a derogatory way?

    I think freerepublic is missing a freeper.

  • You can leave it to the Democrats to botch up important relations and ruin coalitions. If they want to play hardball they then messing around with Lieberman is the wrong person to f—- with. They already lost Clinton’s constituents of 18 million are not going to jump over to Obama and half are going to sit out or vote McCain. If you think they will change their minds you are wrong, ever heard of the halo effect? Many have pointed to history but when did we last have a primary that was so contentious that Democrats preferred a Republican candidate. The stats do no include Clinton supporters who say they will vote Obama but are not really intending to. I am not against Obama per se, I think that McCain is a stronger candidate. I could go on for pages about why I as a recent Democrat think McCain is a better but it is outside of the scope of this commentary.

  • Many comments and Obama Supporters here are anti-Jewish / anti-semitic. Don’t cry racism against and then turn around and use your own form of bigotry. The fact that Obama campaign and supporters represents antisemitism is the reason many Jews will now vote for McCain.

  • MsJoanne, thanks for the list. There are a few of problems with your statements about dual nationality.

    1. The U.S. doesn’t really recognize DN status.

    2. I’m going to get this horribly wrong but basically Israel considers all children of Israeli citizens to also be citizens even if they weren’t born in Israel. That may be the case with Lieberman.

    3. Some wingtards are claiming that under Kenyan law Obama is a DN (US/Kenya) and so he can’t be the next President. A re-hash of the “Muslims would consider him a Muslim so he’s a Muslim!” Pfffffbbbffft!

  • Tom in Ma (#7) said: The 60-votes needed to invoke cloture is no reason to keep Lieberman in the caucus. Cloture votes are rarely party-line,

    Would that this was true, but of the 185 cloture votes the Repuiblicans have forced since 2006, only 10 were not straight party-line. If Joe caucuses with the Republicans and they have a 59-41 Senate, they will filibuster every vote, they’ve already made that promise.

    The good news that Dems are ahead in 11 senate races. Mitch McConnell is running behind, so is that dickwad in Mississippi they appointed to replace Lott.

  • Orange, thanks…if you’re still here.

    I thought he held dual passports, which, to me, is a whole different thing.

    If you consider Jewish law, I am Jewish. My mother was Jewish (vs had my father solely been Jewish, I would have been called Jewish by injection). I was raised Jewish but do not follow any religion now, nor have I since I was young. I still consider myself Jewish if pushed to say what religion I am…for really, I am not. But I am splitting hairs here. Anyway, by law, I do believe that I could be a citizen of Israel.

    By law, by inference, by birth, whatever. If you are in government, I think you have to renounce (and reject 🙂 ) any other citizenship for the reasons I stated above

    Of course, should I be wrong on his DC….nevermind (said in my best Church Lady voice)

  • You go Joe! One thing I can say about Joe – is he is no whimp – like Obama… and his campaign…Whaa – Whaa – Whaa – All the time…Backing Joe into the corner was not Obama’s brightest move – especially since Joe holds the balance of power for the Democrats in the Senate… If he decided to throw his power to the Republicans it would be good bye Harry Reid.
    Obama’s street tactics don’t work in the Senate…and they won’t work in the Presidency – God Forbid he wins. Is this how Obama plans to sit down with foreign countries? Not cool.

  • Great, McCain trolls.

    How many points do you get? Did you get your golf shirt yet?

    Dandy. Good for you.

    Women for McCain?

    John McCain is one of only a few Senators to earn a Zero percent lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood’s Action Fund, and he only scored that high because the organization doesn’t have a lower rating…. Let’s look at his record:

    He voted against requiring health care plans to cover birth control (3/22/03).

    He voted against comprehensive, medically accurate sex education (7/25/06).

    He voted against international family planning funding (3/14/96).

    He voted against funding to prevent teen and unintended pregnancies (3/17/05).

    He voted against public education for emergency contraception (3/17/05).

    And he voted against restoring Medicaid funding that could be used for family planning for low-income women (3/17/05).

    NPR reported (2/2/08) that, “Many Republican voters seem to believe, incorrectly, that the current Republican front-runner, Arizona Senator John McCain, supports abortion rights.”

    John McCain wants us to believe that he’s a moderate who supports improving the health of women in the United States, but in fact he’s among the most extreme members of Congress who voted against common sense measures on family planning, sex education and access to basic healthcare.

    In contrast, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton agree on all of these issues.

    How about McCain’s record on equal pay, you ask?

    Don’t forget how he INSULTED a 14-year old girl:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/23/mccain-to-skip-vote-on-equal-pay/
    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/mccain-equal-pay-girl/

    The Lilly Ledbetter case proved that. McCain’s response was an empty slogan “Women need education and training” ignoring the fact that she had the “education and training” yet was being paid less than men who were hired after her. When the Senate tried to amend the offending Act the Repubs blocked it and Bush said he would have vetoed it anyway. The fact that Goodyear cheated Lucy out of thousands of dollars in compensation and violated Federal Law all those years was ignored by the Conservatives on the Court and the Repubs in Congress. Apparently Conservative ethics hold that it’s OK to cheat someone as long as they don’t know they are being cheated. And suing to get money owed to you is a “frivolous” law suit. These are the ethics of thieves and swindlers and there are at least five of them on SCOTUS.

    IF you are a woman and IF you are for McCain, you’re voting against yourself.

    Enjoy that golf shirt.

  • Thank you MsJoanne, for your insight on Washington politics.

    Sen. McCain’s mis-tongue about vetoing allBeer (instead of ‘Bill’) was no co-incident. Any headshrink will tell you that his wife’s connection with Beer Industry was in his mind. He must really be bothered on something about his wife.

  • Leiberman will be there for years to come. Any attempt to remove him would immediately be met with shrill whines of “anti-semitism,” the loudest coming from Elmer Fuddstein himself.

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