Limbaugh’s affirmative-action theory of presidential politics

It’s tempting to ignore most of Rush Limbaugh’s nonsense, but this one’s both more offensive and more important than most of the garbage he shovels.

On the June 2 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, while discussing Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential candidacy, Rush Limbaugh asserted that the Democratic Party was “go[ing] with a veritable rookie whose only chance of winning is that he’s black.”

As Media Matters for America noted, Limbaugh said on his May 21 broadcast that “Barack Obama is an affirmative action candidate” and asserted during his May 14 broadcast that “[i]f Barack Obama were Caucasian, they would have taken this guy out on the basis of pure ignorance long ago.”

Now, I certainly know not to expect sophisticated social commentary on race relations from drug-addled, right-wing talk-show hosts. But we’ve heard Limbaugh’s point more than once this year.

Atrios noted that that the idea that Obama’s race gives him a huge advantage is bizarre: “One of the hilarious if somewhat disgusting themes we’ve heard from certain quarters is that Obama will win because he’s black. It’s quite an amazing thing that no other African-American figured out that all they had to do was go work in the state legislature, become a US Senator, and then run for president and there’d be no stopping them.”

Quite right, and yet, we’ve nevertheless heard Limbaugh’s argument elsewhere. Geraldine Ferraro, for example, insisted a couple of months ago that Obama is “very lucky” to be an African-American candidate. “[I]f Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position,” she said in March. Ferraro added, “It wasn’t a racist comment, it was a statement of fact.”

Given Limbaugh’s and Ferraro’s analysis, it’s probably worth taking a closer look at this “fact.”

I suspect there are a number of Americans who are excited — if not genuinely elated — by the notion that the United States might elect its first African-American president. For these people, the color of Obama’s skin gives him an advantage, inasmuch as it creates an added motivation to vote for him.

The mistake, I believe, is to assume that these people represent a large percentage of the American electorate. Ferraro said Obama has a “huge” advantage because he’s black. Limbaugh said Obama’s “only chance of winning” is the color of his skin.

On its face, the whole argument seems kind of silly. As Obama himself said a while back, “The quickest path to the presidency [is not] I want to be an African-American man named Barack Obama.”

Josh Marshall once argued:

There’s no doubt that Obama’s race is the central factor in allowing him to consolidate almost unanimous support from African-American voters, especially in the South. But African-Americans make up only about 13% of the population. And does anyone doubt that that advantage he gains there is not balanced at least to a substantial degree by resistance to voting for him among white voters? […]

You might support Obama or not, think he’s qualified or an empty suit but suggesting he’s only where he is now because he’s black is something much worse than outrageous. It just seems obviously false.

And in response specifically to Ferraro (though it applies equally well to Limbaugh), Kevin Drum added a valuable angle that shouldn’t be overlooked:

Implicit in Ferraro’s statement is the idea that if Obama were a charismatic young white guy, there’s no way he’d be getting any attention. And that’s just plain crackers. Charismatic young John F. Kennedy won the presidency in 1960. His brother, charismatic young Robert F. Kennedy, attracted huge support in 1968 and might have become president as well if he hadn’t been assassinated. Charismatic young Gary Hart nearly stole the 1984 Democratic nomination from Walter Mondale. And charismatic young Bill Clinton won the presidency in 1992.

Being young and charismatic has been a pretty good combination in the Democratic Party for the past 50 years. And being against the Iraq war from the start is a pretty is a pretty good credential in the Democratic Party this year. Contra Ferraro, if Obama were a white man he’d still be getting plenty of attention.

I don’t doubt Limbaugh will keep making the argument, and others will no doubt pick it up and run with it. But it really doesn’t make any sense.

“[i]f Barack Obama were Caucasian, they would have taken this guy out on the basis of pure ignorance long ago.”

Why? Pure ignorance sure hasn’t hurt a white guy like Limbaugh.

  • Well, being black worked for Jesse Jackson, right?

    Jackson was the 7th President of the United States. 🙂

    Limbaugh is just mad that Clinton won’t be running against McCain. Operation Chaos failed.

    I don’t doubt Limbaugh will keep making the argument…

    When it’s Clinton supporters making the argument, though, it’s the most disappointing. This primary has revealed a lot about the modern Democratic party: in some ways, it’s entirely like the party of days gone by.

  • Limbaugh will say whatever he needs to stoke the current division in the Dem Party. He was also taking calls from dispondent “Clinton” supporters yesterday who actually suggested that McCain choose Hillary for the VP spot on the GOP ticket. Rush had to carefully point out the fact that the GOP base doesn’t exactly like Hillary either.

    Today Limbaugh was inundated with dispondent republicans over McCain’s lack of fealty to wingnutopia.

    Don’t worry he assured them. He has a secret plan to rebuild the GOP starting with the 2010 midterms.

  • man, that takes some serious nerve — or more accurately, delusion — for a drug-addled glorified DJ to refer to a former Harvard Law Review editor and RA for Professor Tribe as “pure ignorance.”

  • I guess the Republicans should have gone with Condi Rice then. A black woman would win hands down, right?

  • Ah Republicans..on the one hand Obama has spent too much time in university settings and he is too smarty pants..on the other hand he has “pure ignorance”..

    I’d argue McCain’s ignorance is so much purer. Ask any of 20,000 surge troops in Iraq.

  • Marshall may overestimate the skin color issue with African-American voters. It’s certainly may be part of it but as Steve Cohen, Rev. Al, John Edwards, and Alan Keyes can attest African-American voters will vote for the white candidate over the black candidate.

    I’m African-American and Edwards was my guy even though being from Chicago I was quite familiar with Sen. Obama.

  • One thing that’s worth noting is how much the Limbaugh folks resent the solidarity of black voters. I’m pretty sure they would not object if blacks voted 90% Republican 🙂

    I’m going to be contrarian regarding Josh’s point. One thing to note is how a small percentage of the population can strongly affect things when the small group in question votes heavily to one side or the other. Depending on the state, black voters have roughly the same (disproportionate) influence on the left as the fundamentalist christians do on the right, in both cases if they’re against you then you will have a hard time getting the party nomination.

    I think Obama would have run strong no matter what color he was, but I do think it’s true that his skin color is what saved us from 4 or 8 yrs of president Hillary. Without the black voter turnout we have seen, Hillary would have cruised to the nomination and we wouldn’t have glimpsed her true nature until later on. We dodged a bullet, folks.

    Just my 2 cents.

  • This analysis seems to ignore the notion that many young upscale progressive liberals who are white are voting for Obama because he is black (although they would never admit that to a pollster). It’s not just blacks who are voting for race reasons, many progressives who are white also share this view. There’s simply no doubt that a certain segment is voting for Obama because of what it says about themselves – not the candidate. That is, “Look how progressive I am – I’m voting for the (half-)black guy.” When you put these two groups together, contra Steve, they do indeed make up a large percentage of the voting public. (And since when is 13% considered not a large percentage?)

    The comparisons to JFK and RFK seem inapt in that they had both more experience and more appropriate experience.

    That’s not to say that Obama doesn’t bring additional qualities to the job or that this is the only reason that Obama will win. But to doubt that it is a significant factor does not gibe with my definition of significant.

    And if Steve is offended by Rush’s remarks then he needs a thicker skin. Else be preapred to be in a perpetual state of indignation for the next few months. Why not instead just accept the fact that this is America and people can say whatever they want and they can vote for whoever they want for any reason and there’s nothing you can do about it – Steve might try to remember the serenity prayer and to practice what it preaches.

  • From Wiki- … there are 16 women (an all-time high) serving in the 100-person body. in the 110th Congress, with 74 women in the House and 16 in the Senate. The Senate is 1% African American and the House is approximately 9.2% African American. The Senate historian lists Obama as the fifth African American Senator in U.S. history, and the third to have been popularly elected.

    The numbers suggest being either a woman or an African American is a huge disadvantage.

  • I suppose that we could needle the far-right and the racists by pointing out that Obama is their fault. If they hadn’t “lowered” the bar by putting an incompetent, stupid, lazy, incoherent, dishonest white guy like Bush in the white house, then a “boy” wouldn’t have had a chance.
    Personally I’m thrilled that a little idealism, charisma, and youth are found in a person who can utter a sentence without embarrassing himself or the country. Go Obama.

  • Skin color is not the biggest issue with Obama, in fact his support in large numbers from white folks early on is proof of that.

    I’m sure it was either his message of bi-partisan unity which drew the most people, or else being the only major “anti-Hillary” candidate for repubs to become dems for a day to vote for.

    Unfortunately, I believe that a lot of his support has been overstated.. sigh, it doesn’t matter much though since it is likely he will proclaim himself the nominee tonight.

  • Change his color, change his gender, change his ethnicity but keep his eloquence, ideas, adult approach to the electorate, and political savvy and he is still pretty much where he is now. George W has been so bad that he has broken the molds and crippled the propaganda machines who spported him for so long. Hillary lost by trying to use that broken mold. Populism is afoot and that means the country club model of America, in which most of us are caddies, is in jeopardy. Obama is riding a tiger. It remains to be seen if he can control it without smothering or caging it. And the privileged have always loved to hunt tigers. Let no one doubt Obama’s bravery.

  • Still, Ferraro’s point wasn’t that he was black instead of being white, though I hate to defend her while she’s pretty addled.

    Her point was that the media no longer pays for columnists to be blatantly racist, whereas several news anchors are blatantly misogynist. As long as women are ‘odd news’ and misogynist smears are allowed by the style guides, it’s going to be an uphill battle to get equality.

    Still, I’m glad we’re at such a point that the openly bigoted are such a small part of the electorate on our side as to not even tip the scales.

  • Of course everyone remembers Limbaugh’s famous affirmative action discourse on Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb (the media want him to succeed because he’s black). That one got his ass booted off TV. So what else is new, Rush?

  • And from the other loonies, Neal Boortz was ranting all morning about his evidence that Obama is a commie. They just never let up.

  • Rush Limbaugh is a pig, literally and figuratively. Nothing more to say on that.

  • If Rush Limbaugh wasn’t a fat, white, sexist, racist, pill-popping, egotistical, A-type authoritarian, knee-jerk, prattling, mother fucker — he wouldn’t have his B-type authoritarian, fat-ass, white, male, fascist, beer-swilling [not that there’s anything wrong with that] ditto-head, NASCAR-loving, mother fuckin’ audience.

  • Like saying the only reason Hillary is where she is is because she’s a woman. It’s all bullshit. They are people first and I look at Barack as a man, as a person and Hillary as a woman and a person. This is why I believe it would be more difficult for a woman to become president than a blackman.

    You won’t see white people overall making comments like “That’s my man, a brother in the WH”. So who is more racist? Those who claim skin color is the reason for success here or those who contribute to his success because of his skin color? I know Obama merely wants to be viewed as a man, a person…who just happens to be black .

    Only a handful of people wanted to run for president on the dem ticket. Money drove most out. We were left with 2 choices and needed to pick the one we felt would best represent us. It just turned out that one happened to be black and one a woman which should demonstrate that on the whole the dem party did not let prejudice get in the way of deciding on a candidate. Republicans would love dearly to make it an issue since they cannot run on their failed policies they seek ways to divide our party. If they thought it would help them win they would give McCain a sex change operation and paint him black. But alas, they ended up with a most racist misogynist candidate (campaigned and voted against MLK holiday and allows his audience to address Clinton as “the bitch”…even laughed about it). He represents the republican party’s most outstanding principle…hypocrisy.
    Do you see Obama as a man first and then a ‘black’ man?

  • If they thought it would help them win they would give McCain a sex change operation and paint him black.

    LOL. Give them time. He’s flipflopped on so many other things I don’t see why not.

    But seriously, I guess Rush will say McCain’s using affirmative action if he picks Jindal for his VP?

  • Whew, you dolts really don’t get it. -Harold

    Which dolts don’t get what?

  • Hey, Doubtful, I guess we’re too doltish to understand what must be very obvious …

  • “many young upscale progressive liberals who are white are voting for Obama because he is black (although they would never admit that to a pollster).”

    And even though they attempt to keep it secret, the private thoughts of many “upscale” liberal people are easily discernable by a properly trained medium! Child’s play!

  • With Obama firmly entrenched as the de facto nomination, the next VERY important step will be for CB to start deleting comments that whine about the injustice of it all. We need to get on with it. As an alternative I propose a self-imposed obligatory $5 contribution to the Obama campaign for every time we respond to a whiner. Starting next Monday?

  • As an alternative I propose a self-imposed obligatory $5 contribution to the Obama campaign for every time we respond to a whiner. Starting next Monday? -Michael7843853

    You’re going to fine me for feeding the trolls? Do you know how hard it will be for me to hold back? Oh well, at least I believe in your cause. 🙂

    WaryTale, I hear ya. I’ve been on the edge of my seat awaiting Harold’s reply!

  • Limblah is a blowhard, but Ferraro was making a valid point however clumsily.

    Obama has no RESUME! How is this guy qualified to be president!!? As a previous poster pointed out, the young fresh faces that the democrats like to select were ALL universally more qualified than Obama. Even Bill Clinton was a two term governor. Hillary lost by a few percentage points, arguably the fact the Obama is black plays to some audiences, probably accounting for the winning margin. Give Ferraro credit – shes not afraid to speak out on a touchy subject.

    All this reminds me of 1976 when Jimmy Carter was new and different – and he was an unmitigated disaster. I like Obama and he is smart – but experience counts. We are in for trouble folks (even though I too like the historic new black face to the world angle).

  • Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature believe that Obama, with his obviously super thin resume, would be in this position if he were any other race or gender? There has never been a lessor qualified presidential candidate.

  • Jayinge, I like that meme for annoying the right in future decades: the Bush – Limbaugh legacy is that they lowered standards so much that an inexperienced black guy became president.

    (Yes, I know, Obama is sufficiently experienced and is only half-black and will win because he’s good rather than because Bush & Limbaugh are a-holes, but why ruin a great needling?)

  • “We are in for trouble folks”

    And that would not be true if who was president? There is no one born of woman who can keep us from some hard years ahead. Its a little premature to call the Obama presidency a failure at this point because he doesn’t have the magic knowledge, which the average person could never hope to understand, garnered by 8 years in the rose garden or 5 years in the Hanoi hilton. Mistakes will be made(oh my), but Obama is a quick study and will have the best tutors, as needed.

  • Isn’t Clarence Thomas the Repo Affirmative Non-Action figure on SCOTUS? Limbo ever have a problem there?

    It’s one thing to have a thin resume, but what can you say about the disastrous resume of Harken Arbusco Bush? Didn’t stop 60 million clueless from voting for him.

    Just another edition of Limbo’s patented ‘Donovan McNabb Offense’. Been there,done that.

  • Interested, Lincoln had a very thin resume as well prior to his election, two years in the house and eight in a state legislature, yet is considered by most to be one of our top five presidents

  • “Change his color, change his gender, change his ethnicity but keep his eloquence, ideas, adult approach to the electorate, and political savvy and he is still pretty much where he is now.”

    Well no. If Hillary had received even half the black vote she would be the nominee, not Obama. Hence it is easy to conclude that Obama won the nomination because he is black. Yes he has all those other qualities, but the 91% of the black vote he received put him over the top.

    NO RESUME. Not a single bill authored in the Senate. Never held a meeting of his sub-committee on Afghanistan. Where are the achievements that would qualify him for the worlds hardest job in the hard years ahead. Hmmm – maybe inspiration will be enough, and after seeing him speak twice in person he has that in spades.

  • FDR had four years as a governor and two in a state legislature
    Teddy had two years as a governor, two in a state legislature and a few months as VP
    Wilson two years as governor

  • Teddy Roosevelt, secretary of the Navy, war hero, and Governor of NY wasn’t elected – he became President after McKinley was shot. FDR was governor of New York, the richest most populous state in the country. Wilson was the only president to earn a PHD (from John Hopkins) and a much longer life as a publicly influential writer, businessman and intellectual. Obama has less experience that all these men. I would also argue that the world is more complicated today and the range of issues far greater.

    Both McCain and HRC are more qualified – but Barack is shiny and new.

  • Quint,

    It is precisely that inspiration and honesty, that makes him the best bet for the hard times. It’s all Churchill had(inspiration, honesty not so much). We are going to have to swallow some bitter pills and will need someone to make us believe in ultimate recovery, otherwise its MadMax time(worst case) and/or pre-middle class America with prisons on every other block. We are going to pay dearly for our years of economic profligacy. The question is, will the country survive looking like anything we can be proud of.

  • Anyone who believes Obama owes his political fortunes to his skin color is an ignorant cretin, at the very least. I won’t go so far as to paint the whole lot of them with the “racist” brush, but they certainly know nothing about race and the issues that surround it.

    The fact that Obama is a black man is a huge mark against him, not in his favor. That he’s overcome it is an amazing victory. Had he been a white man, he almost certainly would have been at least as prominent as he already is. Having that same talent and not being hampered by his race would have been a huge advantage.

    That is reality.

  • There has never been a lessor qualified presidential candidate. -Interested

    Obviously that’s not true. What’s you threshold for qualification? Length of time in public office? Type of office? C’mon, there have been an enormous amount of unqualified candidates. There have also been well qualified candidates who were unmitigated disasters in the office.

    If Hillary had received even half the black vote she would be the nominee, not Obama. -Quintus

    Well, while we’re assuming that Hillary would’ve pulled more of the black vote if Obama wasn’t black, wouldn’t also be prudent to assume Obama might’ve done better with, say, white people in Appalachia? Woulda, coulda, shoulda. The facts of the primary are indisputable. He’s black, or half-black depending on specificity, and she’s a woman. Period.

    Honestly, I can’t believe we’re back to the ‘no experience’ argument. Sigh.

    Both McCain and HRC are more qualified – but Barack is shiny and new. -Quintus

    See, that’s an opinion. Not a fact. And I disagree. Obama is more qualified because he has exhibited better judgment, not to mention executed a better managed campaign than the supposed juggernaut Hillary Clinton. McCain will be cake compared to taking her down.

  • Ok, quint, if experience is supposed to be THE deciding factor in this election, would it also be fair to look specifically at the quality of experience we should be looking for?
    With 25 years in the Senate it would stand to reason that McCain must have a fairly extensive voting record – THAT COULD BE VERY EASILY EXAMINED.
    Is it a track record of accomplishments that have benefited all Americans – or just a few big paying lobbyists?
    Is there any consistency in that voting record – or is it a shotgun grouping of inconsistencies? (flip-flops)
    And the extra kicker here: how many important votes for veterans, whom I’m sure you love just as much as the next guy, as well as voting for issues important to the rest of us – did McCain turn up as a no-show?
    Based on what’s been examined so far, McCain’s track record ain’t all that impressive, to put it mildly – unless, of course, you’re a big land developer in Arizona. And quite frankly, quint, his itchy trigger finger, exemplified by that happy little Bomb Iran ditty, is a worry to a lot of us.
    Plain and simple, if it’s OK to raise race as an issue then age is fair game as well and this dude is just too freakin old with constant bouts with dementia onset – Shiite/Sunni/Al Queada/confusion and addition problems!?!
    They’ll just have to keep the engine reving on Marine 1 , like they used to do for Reagan, to cover his mind numbing cryptic answers to simple questions.

  • Well, while we’re assuming that Hillary would’ve pulled more of the black vote if Obama wasn’t black, wouldn’t also be prudent to assume Obama might’ve done better with, say, white people in Appalachia? — doubtful, @43

    A white man vs a white woman? In Appalachia? White man, hands down. Of course, nobody but you would point that out, and you’re doing it just to needle the Clinton supporters 🙂

  • I read the comments and most of the comments are more uninformed and inaccurate than the original statement. The problem with you Rush Limbaugh haters is that it is similar to picking up a 1000 page book and reading 1 page out of the book and doing a book report on it. I remember trying that in school a few times.

    If you feel you are so enlightened; open up your minds and actually listen to what he is saying over a period of time. You may be amazed.

    If you feel like hating for the sake of hatting, then go to it if that is what makes you feel useful.

    Jay

    PS: Notice I didn’t call anyone any names to get my message across.

  • Rush’s quote:
    “We know that George Soros is involved with Obama, but there’s somebody that’s putting the words in his mouth. ‘Cause you’re right — when he goes off the teleprompter, he is a different guy. He does not come off as the messiah, he doesn’t come off as this great unifier. He has trouble articulating with a bunch of stutters and pauses and so forth. So — but my point in telling you this is that there must be real animosity toward the Clintons at high levels of this party. To go with a veritable rookie whose only chance of winning is that he’s black.”

    I’m trying to open my mind, but I just can’t seem to find any “amazement” in this statement.

    Rush seems to be pushing this belief that Obama is somehow a puppet for George Soros (and the proof is..?). That Obama “stutters and pauses” without a teleprompter (check out the current occupant in the White House and his grasp of the English language, in comparison). And Rush believes that Obama’s only reason he has a chance to win is because he is black.

    Now, how has “being black” given African-Americans an advantage?

    I also notice in the Media Matters piece that Rush said:

    “The one observation you can make about this whole business, because he (John Lott) proved it. I mean, it’s — the growth of government started like crazy when women got the right to vote. Which just proves: Size does matter to ’em.”

    Now is Rush trying to blame women’s suffrage for increasing the size of government? Does he believe women should not have the right to vote?

    Where am I missing the enlightenment in this statement?

  • 2Manchu: You’re missing the whole “conservative republican” bit. You know, IOKIYAR. Rush is being “enlightening” rather than “a racist ass” because republicans are good people. Or something like that.

    And, of course, anything that shows otherwise either is taken out of context, or is being misrepresented, or isn’t actually real, or any one of a number of excuses.

    Just look at it this way: It is a religion to these people. And religion, by its very nature, is emotional rather than rational.

  • at best the truth is that white folks chose someone based on something other than skin color (though gender bias was possible). black folks chose only on color of skin as evidenced 90% plus support for obama (albeit 90% of 13% of the population).

  • Free America means Ron Paul can become president, still. Obama and Hillary can have a great ticket. I can still vote protest by voting Constitution Party if Ron Paul doesn’t push it through. Rush is right in all respects especially in his May 14th brodcast showing why the GOP is no longer conservative. My Infowars pals can also vote for Ron Paul for different reasons. I don’t have to listen to the mz. pro choice or mr. change and you can hate me for saying all of this and not recycling too if you want, but I’m teaching my kids to hold up the light of God’s Word to all of the prominent’s sales pitches for our votes– to what other standard I do not know of except the false gods of “eu” anti-americrats, promoters of envirowackoism, algory-the-earth’s-a-dyin’-garblism. evolution and global warming is still a hoax not unlike Y2K and if Rush didn’t rule, this article wouldn’t even exist. Press on Rush!! And while you’re at it Rush, quit dumping on McCain and advocate Ron Paul for a NAU free America. What’s NAU? Not Another Union. Yeah, job offloading, wave 2. Get ready. Why are only Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanan and a few others even aware of it? Lets not let the New World Order be born of our nation. Rather, lets stay free and repress the “eu’s” efforts to bring it to bear. Yeah, that’s little “eu”. innocent little “eu”. Go visit their website and you’re passion to be Patriotic again will be rekindled. Well, we still get to vote, Thank God, but please don’t be duped into believing you can only vote for either the Democrats or the GOP who both drastically and sickeningly insult your intelligence and mine. Let’s not sell out to world interests in our country like they do, but you greenies go green, I’ll go Constitution Conservative and go with your gut, your conscience and be the American you want to be. Don’t let a greenie make you recycle and don’t let me tell you to read your Bible. Be you. May we all be blessed of God.

  • Every generation rising says “you guys blew it” to the generation in power. It’s just the cycle. You can analyze it all you want..the fact is there’s a younger horse in the race and we want him.

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