Line right up … to kiss James Dobson’s ring

As soon as the religious right political movement started making real inroads in the ’80s, the movement’s groups and leaders have envisioned circumstances in which they’d play the roll of kingmakers, particularly at the presidential level. If a candidate planned on getting the GOP nomination, the Christian conservatives thought, they’d have to jump through the far-right’s hoops first.

Unfortunately, the religious right is moving one step closer to making this vision a reality.

Leaders of conservative Christian organizations plan to jointly interview Republican contenders for the 2008 presidential nomination, perhaps even endorsing one of them — steps that could expand their already considerable political influence.

“We’d like to try to stay together,” Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said at a breakfast with reporters Wednesday. The ad hoc group includes “free thinkers” and “strong personalities,” he says, but they might unite behind a candidate who “unquestionably” best represented their views and priorities.

Gary Bauer, president of American Values, said in an interview that the sit-down sessions, likely to begin after the 2006 elections, would be “a very effective way to nail down where people are on cultural issues.” He said candidates have become “very astute” at answering written questionnaires in ways that avoid making firm commitments.

And who’d participate in this little club? The FRC’s Perkins, Focus on the Family’s James Dobson, Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Foundation, and the Rev. Donald Wildmon of the American Family Association. (The AFA is the group with the boycott fixation.) Perkins told Roll Call that as many as 18 religious right organizations would be involved in the effort.

The entire set-up here is deeply disturbing. Every presidential aspirant will line up, kiss Dobson’s ring, take turns trying to convince evangelical leaders that he’s just as crazy as they are, and making all manner of promises about all the radical things we’ll see if only the religious leaders will endorse their campaign. The democratic process isn’t supposed to work this way.

To be sure, there are some countries in the world where politicians have to receive the backing of clerics and other religious leaders in order to succeed. Off the top of my head, they’d include Iran, Afghanistan under Taliban rule, Saudi Arabia….

Has this country completely forgotten that it has a Constitution?

Article VI, clause 3: … no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

  • Alarming! One wonders if the 08 GOPers will realize the danger to country? Best defense is to NOT PARTICIPATE. If A’W’OL approval ratings are an indicator, the far right consists of about 29-33% of the ‘base’. If these clowns never have the opportunity to “interview” candidates, will they sit out the election?

  • Tell me why this is bad news? These guys are not the Republican’s sweet spot. These guys are certainly not anywhere near the Republican voting independents’ mentality. The more visibility they get, the better news it is for people who want sensible leaders in government.

  • I think it will be hard for them to unite, unless I’m mistaken. They’ll have several really good choices (for their purposes)…the question is, do they deliberately pick someone who is also one of the top favorites of business donors? In that case, the nomination really will be over early. And how much influence does Karl Rove have in this world, can he steer the fundies to a candidate? They may respect his tactical abilities, but do they respect his rightness with the Lord? Will either business or the relig right come grumbling along in the name of electability, or will there have to be real enthusiasm in both camps over a nominee?

  • I’ve got to agree with Alex. If they really engage in this kind of high-profile muscle flexing, even some of their presumed supporters are likely to back away. Once you move down the spectrum, away from the fanatical, you run into a lot of Americans who don’t cotton to a pack of ingnorant preachers telling them how to vote. Hubris, thy name is Wildmon.

  • I agree with Alex, that the more visibility these guys get the better off we might be–BUT ONLY IF THE PRESS DOES ITS JOB AND SHOWS WHAT KNUCKLEBRAINS THEY ARE. So, we might be screwed.

  • In 1960 Kennedy had to do the exact opposite.

    He needed to prove he was not beholden to Rome.

    How things have changed.

    Scary stuff.

  • Yes, Ed, of course the Constitution bans this kind of power grab, but that sure as hell hasn’t stopped these thugs before, and it won’t now. I know you know that, but unfortunately your extremely accurate and dead-on criticism won’t be the relevant issue.

    BC West is on the right track. The fundies do represent a rather small portion of the ideological base in the Rethug Party. The business interests still have a great deal of sway, though, in the Party AND especially in Congress. And the fundie agenda is antagonistic to most of the business agenda; it would be extremely unlikely to find an electable candidate that would satisfy the extremism the fundies want while also being able to appeal to the business sector — it’s like trying to mix water and oil.

    So, the higher the fundies reach in trying to influence electoral candidates, the greater the likelihood that it will continue to splinter the Rethugs at the ballot box. When the Rethugs can’t stay on message (just look at stem cell research, for example), Dems win! Dems win because Dems do represent the majority of Americans — both in terms of raw numbers (the 44 Dem Senators represent more constituents than do the 55 Rethug Senators) AND in how Americans want their government to behave and on the issues that affect their everyday lives.

    The American people are starting to wake up to the extremism of the fundies, as they revealed themselves with both Schiavo and with judges. As the fundies continue their rants, America will continue to reject them and, by extension, to reject the Rethugs that do in fact kiss Dobson’s ring.

  • I don’t like the sound of this myself.

    You know the right is pushing things too far when Force Majure expresses concern.

    Just teasing FM…

  • Well Carpetbagger, you have a point. If you want to know the Achilles heel of the Republican Party, it really is the “in your face” Fundies, as you call them. They do stand apart from people who call themselves Christians, believe in God, go to church a little, and generally feel threatened by the vitriol of the ACLU and co., but don’t want to be seen as part of the Bob Jones Christian Taliban. If you Dems could somehow make non-neo Christians believe that you don’t hate them (but yet alot of you do- alot of you can’t stand anyone who is not an atheitic or agnostic person who wants any and every vestige of our nations Christian heritage eradicated) you could actually win in the south, especially with more conservative women voters. But I just dont’ see that happening

  • THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT BAN THIS IN ANY WAY. This is NOT a religious test of qualification for candidacy, since they have no power to determine who will be a candidate (and in any event, this is a State issue, not a private one). People can choose to vote and/or endorse candidates for any reason they like. It’s called “freedom.”

    Let these guys roll! Did they help orchestrate BushCo? You bet they did! But they are out of touch and pushing beyond their reach. And they do NOT represent most Americans. If they can force the Republicans to avaoid the sure-bet of John McCain (and they will), then Democrats have a shot.

    Bush won because Kerry sucked. And yes, losers always blame their candidate, but come on, the guy was a zombie. Zombie. . . moron. . . I don’t care who people pick at that point. It’s not the type of election progressives should allow to occur in the first place. Did anyone see the footage of Kerry addressing the Senate as a war-protesting Vet? I was ashamed that he couldn’t muster a tenth of that passion for the election.

  • Hmmm. I’m of 2 minds about this. One, I’m very familiar with all these folks and they do scare me. The idea that they could have that much power– especially consolidated– is scary. However, the more out-in-the-open they are about stuff like this, the better. It’s far better than the secretive Council for National Policy controlling things from behind the scenes. Let them stroke and preen themselves in public for being the powerful Christian supremacists they are, chances are it will backfire. The GOP doesn’t want their relationship to the wingnuts quite so exposed. They prefer using code.

    Also, chances are they’re going to pick someone like Frist, somone who is just like them. If they don’t, they’ll end up fighting amongst themselves. Meanwhile McCain is far more popular but they’ll never approve him.

  • These fundies (Dobson, Perkins, Bauer, et al.) need be shown for who they are: they do not worship God, in their minds they are God. American citizens need to wake up and realize that the fundies are waging war on them and American culture. The terrorists don’t hate our freedom, the fundies do! And our freedoms are at risk of imposition of far right values to usurp our Constitutional rights. The fundies did not fly any planes into any buildings yet, but we should feel just as unsafe when they fly planes to D.C. to change this nation into their theocratic realm. These guys do not represent the vast majority of Christians/ Catholics in this nation, yet everytime they are mentioned it sounds like everyone who goes to a church agrees with their views. It’s all about how this is framed, and the language used in the debate needs to reflect who they are: the far-right religious fringe.

  • I am a reluctant republican who couldn’t agree more with the idea that
    my party has been coopted and kidnapped by fundementalists.

    I am constantly asked how a liberal could be a member of this
    organization. Certainly, it had to do with my maternal grandparents
    being party officials but beyond that I never had a cogent answer that
    truly explained my position. Until I watched an episode of West Wing
    where a gay representative was asked the same question and he answered
    thusly. He said he was always amazed that the gun control advocates had
    never joined the NRA. He added that they currently have a total of a
    million or so members. Since many millions of people support gun
    control what would you suppose would happen if these people joined the
    organization and showed up at a meeting to vote on the issue?

    That’s why I’m a republican. When I vote in primaries I’m attempting to
    elimate rabid idealogues from the general election ballot. To
    some it may seem to be tilting at windmills but it’s a start. There are
    a few good guys on the right side of the aisle. McCain and Luger come
    to mind. I’m still looking for another Rudman or Weicker. Having found
    none I have almost always voted democratic in the november elections.

    If there were more people culling the current herd down to legitimate,
    thinking, caring and concerned candidates the party would be forced to
    abandon their current platform and come back to reality. The Dobsons,
    Wildmons and Perkins of the world would be rendered irrelevant and
    dismissed as such.

    My point is not all republicans are “rethugs”, just the ones currently in charge and that can change and almost certainly will if the partisanship and name calling are kept to a minimum.

  • Peter R. Your Quote: “The terrorists don’t hate our freedom, the fundies do! And our freedoms are at risk of imposition of far right values to usurp our Constitutional rights.”

    OK. Now I’ve already stated that I do tend to agree with CArpetbagger on his assertions regarding the really hard line religious right. And as the willing Republican whipping boy slash political dialogue pinata currently on this website, I absorb alot of side long comments on conservatives with a pretty thick skin. But I gotta cal you out on this quote. Explain to me what constitutional rights (other than abortion, I’m just going to lay that one aside on the table) do fundies hate or currently are in a position to remove?

    Secondly, Islamic terrorists hate everything about us, buddy-boy. Every fiber of our beings. If a thousand Taliban warriors from Afghanistan could sneek over here armed to the teeth they would kill every man, woman and child of any age, ethnicity, or political persuasion- so long as they were American that they could. (Which by the way is why we keep the worst of them at GITMO vice on domestic soil)

  • I hope the DNC has the good sense to have the cameras out front when each of the Repubicans candidates arrives for his “interview.” Will make great footage for general election campaign commercials.

  • To say that the Taliban and Islamic fundamentalists “hate everything about us” is to reduce it too far that it’s almost comical and it’s surely uninformed. They hate that there are US soldiers in their holy-land. That hate that we interfere in their countries.

    This argument that’s put forth of “they hate everything about us and will do anything to kill us” has been put forth so that an agenda can be fulfilled. I’ll agree with you that they’re a crazy bunch of fucks and need to be dealt with appropriately, but that first part is just continued fearmongering and isn’t productive to the debate.

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