Lingering problems on McCain’s far-right flank

During the Republicans presidential primaries, exit polls showed John McCain struggling to win over the most conservative Republican voters, but since this contingent was divided between Huckabee, Romney, and Thompson, McCain was able to excel anyway.

After effectively having wrapped up the nomination in February, McCain began the task of bringing the various GOP factions together, and as far he’s concerned, it’s going pretty well. At least three times on the campaign trail last week, the senator boasted that the Republican Party is “united.”

The Wall Street Journal took a closer look at this claim today, and finds some of the conservatives who hated McCain earlier this year are still not quite ready to close ranks.

Some prominent conservatives say they remain disenchanted with the party’s likely nominee. Sen. McCain isn’t doing enough to persuade them of his conservative credentials, they say, or win them over to his side…. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, once said he would stay home rather than vote for Sen. McCain. He has softened his tone, but he has yet to warm to the Arizona senator.

“I have seen no evidence that Sen. McCain is successfully unifying the Republican Party or drawing conservatives into his fold,” he said in a written statement, reflecting his personal views. “To the contrary, he seems intent on driving them away.”

Mr. Dobson took issue with a litany of Sen. McCain’s positions, including support for embryonic-stem-cell research and opposition to a Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Those stances, plus Sen. McCain’s discussion of global warming and his push to outlaw torture and shut down the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have “frustrated” conservatives “whom McCain seems to have written off,” Mr. Dobson said.

I suspect most of this is sincere — Dobson really won’t tolerate anyone who neglects to agree with him on every issue, in every instance — but to reiterate a point from a couple of months ago, I don’t think Dobson has a lot of choice here. He has to keep opposing McCain’s candidacy.

Folks like Limbaugh, Coulter, and other far-right voices who railed against McCain early on will be fine whether he wins the presidency or not. Their “stature” (I use the word loosely) in Republican circles will remain unaffected no matter what happens on Election Day.

Dobson is facing a different future, and doesn’t have the luxury of being deemed irrelevant. He collects checks from donors who expect him to help drive the Republican agenda and shape the conservative movement. If he can’t even stop McCain, whom the religious right hates, why should his followers bother to send him more money?

The same is true on Capitol Hill. Dobson maintains clout based on fear — it’s his supporters who provide the party with foot-soldiers. If McCain can persevere despite the bitter opposition of Dobson and other religious right leaders, the fear factor is gone, and GOP leaders will begin to perceive the movement as a paper tiger. Why jump when Dobson demands it if he has no real electoral influence?

Indeed, it’s already quite apparent that far-right concerns about McCain don’t amount to much — despite not getting much in the way of attention, a lack of funds, and the religious right’s ire, McCain is still doing quite well in national polls.

With this in mind, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Dobson (and guys like Pat Robertson) work to undermine McCain at every turn. If he’s successful, and McCain loses, Dobson will say, “See? We still have power, and you still need to take the religious right seriously.”

And if McCain wins in spite of Dobson’s enmity, his power and influence may never be the same.

And if Dobson comes around to help McCain and he still loses it will diminish Dobson and also keep us from the next 4-8 years of war. Then if McCain’t gives Bush another hug let’s hope he does a Lenny and squeezes a little too long and a little too hard.

  • James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, once said he would stay home rather than vote for Sen. McCain. He has softened his tone, but he has yet to warm to the Arizona senator.

    Puh-lease. Where else is he going to go? Dobson knows that if he actively opposes McCain he will lose money. He will claim to have gotten everything he could out of the process, declare himself relevant, and his loyal followers will lap it up along with all his other tripe.

  • Sen. McCain’s discussion of global warming and his push to outlaw torture and shut down the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have “frustrated” conservatives “whom McCain seems to have written off,” Mr. (James) Dobson (founder of Focus on the Family) said. [from the Wall Street Journal]

    I hope Dobson will provide us unbelievers with further enlightenment and tell us which which methods of torture are most pleasing to God, so we may prove our love for Jesus upon the bodies of the brown-skinned heathen.

    Conservatives needn’t worry about McCain. He’s already reversed himself and voted that torture is okay, as long as it’s carried out by the CIA. McCain will come around when he needs more far-right support.

  • But shillary says he is so presidential – highly “qualified” to lead the nation. This speaks VOLUMES about HER qualification, doesn’t it.

  • “And if McCain wins in spite of Dobson’s enmity, his power and influence may never be the same.”

    If McCain does win, I hope this is the case. In my opinion, mainline Christian churches need to step up and set the bar for sanity in the Christian community. In all faiths, Jewish, Muslim, and Christian, the silence of the moderates sets the stage for the extremists and it has got to stop.

    Another thing that has to stop is the funding of “faith-based initiatives”. Hamas and Hezbollah have become entrenched because the people can’t do without their shadow government picking up the society safety net, and sometimes the physical safety net. We can’t allow that to happen in this country too. You become dependent upon them and you are blackmailed into following their agenda, whatever it is, and I’m sure they all think their agendas are best for humankind.

  • Mr. Dobson took issue with a litany of Sen. McCain’s positions, including support for embryonic-stem-cell research and opposition to a Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Those stances, plus Sen. McCain’s discussion of global warming and his push to outlaw torture and shut down the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have “frustrated” conservatives “whom McCain seems to have written off,” Mr. Dobson said.

    I can understand conservatives, in general, and conservative Christians, in particular, being concerned about stem cell research and same sex marriage.

    However, it seems strange that Jesus, who should mean something to all Christians, even conservative ones, probably would not have taken a stance against global warming legistlation. I’m even willing to bet that Jesus thought torture was a bad idea – something about loving your neighbour.

    Well, I guess Mr. Dobson and I are different kinds of Christians.

  • “Dobson really won’t tolerate anyone who neglects to agree with him on every issue”

    Only if you think that Dobson actually believes the drivel he preaches! Dobson, Robertson, and the bulk of the TV preachers are interested in the two fundamental tenets of ‘modern’ Christianity – money and power.

    If Jesus was to walk the earth again, can anyone really believe that he would be associated with these so-called Christians who support unprovoked wars and torture?

  • Dobson wants McCain to kiss his ring. What’ll be interesting is to see if McCain is willing to do it since it could undermine his support among moderates and/or independents.

    It doesn’t surprise me that they’re still making things uncomfortable for McCain until he starts to plead directly for their support– including changing his position on issues such as the anti-same-sex marriage amendment. (It’s not like he’ll lose any votes by changing his position on something that will never happen.) But it still puts McCain in an interesting bind.

  • CB – you’re absolutely right. The stands Dobson has taken have been declared his hills to die on. His hard line is what keeps his tribe on the reservation. If Dobson shows compromise, his “moral authority” goes down the tubes. Besides, righties need an enemy to hate and fear to galvanize the constituency and keep the cash rolling in.

    A week ago I had business at an establishment that had a radio tuned to Rush. Limbaugh was railing about his “operation chaos” where he is rallying his faithful to cross party lines and vote for Hillary in the PA primary. Rush said he launched this campaign as revenge for Democrats crossing lines to get McCain elected as the Republican nominee. He was pissed. The presence of McCain on the Republican ticket is a source of anger and consternation requiring revenge. No, the right wing does not like McCain. John has problems with his supposed base.

  • i’m wondering when the majority out here is going to figure out that the dogged 28% of the brain-dead electorate who still support our current regime of cronies .. and the flunkies of the far right are truly politically irrevelant ..and begin to treat them in a light reflecting that reality.

    that’s the way i’ve been approraching many of these whackos on various fora ..i simply dismiss them .. and remind them they constitute such a smal segement of the population that they just don’t matter..

    why continue to address these folks as if they have some sort of sense ??

  • The general election is a fight for the middle of the political spectrum. That’s why Sen. Clinton thinks she may be able to persuade the supers to vote for her since she supposedly represents the center left and Sen. Obama is characterized as a zealot. Sen. McCain does not need the fringes of the religious right, but he does need the church going people to vote. He will adopt the Bush strategy: smile a lot when the Dobsons of the world are around and say nothing else. It worked well enough that President Bush retained the office with the help of that segment of the party.

    It is most likely that if Sen. McCain wins, he will not feel he is beholding to them. Remember, he is much more of a Goldwater conservative and Barry Goldwater abhorred the religious right.

    As for the general election, I think that if Sen. Clinton runs for the Democrats, then the party will live up to the consistent meme of choosing losers. She has painted herself into a corner concerning her credentials, her apparent (rhymes with witch)-iness, and Bush like qualities to say whatever is expedient vis a vis Sen. McCain*. Not that she is not qualified – the president has to be an unmitigated bastard at times – but her present campaign is being listened to by others than the superdelegates and the Republican Party will not let the general public forget about how she came to praise Sen. McCain while attempting to assasinate Sen. Obama. Sen. McCain is running as a genuine hero with a specific conservative philosophy of government but the ability to work with others. The contrast may be persuasive to the average voter who has little concern about the wonky issues.

    * Not that Sen. McCain has not made expedient viewpoint changes, but they are not as apparent nor as public as those of the Clinton camp. Especially prominent are the reasons for choosing her as the candidate that have been changing daily such as the relative value of states, caucuses, AA voters, etc. While these may be viewed as internal Democratic conversations, everyone is hearing her change and watching to see what happens. It won’t take much for the Republican campaign or 527s to voice the “She’ll do anything to be president” slogan and turn the critique of President Bush on its head.

  • Dobson and other distracters of McCain are playing Russian roulette with three bullets in the six-shooter. I would imagine that they all are smart enough to realize that McCain is the only game in town that will not decimate our military, plunge this country into a quagmire of socialism, and pave the road for a world Caliphate.

    These people are just doing the job for the Democrats and discouraging Republicans and others not to vote. The choice is simple, the opposition or McCain. They should save their energy to guide, encourage, and move McCain in the right direction once he wins the November election. If they succeed discouraging votes for McCain they will have lost not won the battle.

  • 10. On April 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pm, Jkat said:
    i’m wondering when the majority out here is going to figure out that the dogged 28% of the brain-dead electorate who still support our current regime of cronies .. and the flunkies of the far right are truly politically irrevelant ..

    *******************
    my response, jkat, is that unfortunately the majority of the jawflappers on the teevee and the newspaper typists are members of the deadenders club. one of my clients, who is in all respects an intelligent adult, gets the majority of her “news” from cable news and the nytimes and whenever i update her on some of the dope, she is astonished. to those of us who use the internet on a regular basis, most have the misimpression that a larger percentage of our population has access or uses that access. i suppose that in one way at least is good news — despite not having regular access to truth-diggers on the internet, 70-80% of the population are solidly against the actions and inactions of the current administration. i think that says a lot in favor of the intelligence of americans who, in spite of the unbalanced screeching by the deadenders, can still tell the difference between bread and bullshit.

  • well you’re right karen .. it’s my myopia i suppose .. i’ve been a portable-cybercitizen so long i really hadn’t thought of people not being online ..

    thanks for the input …

  • Cheeze Louise, Jkat… Where you been? Among the peers (middle-aged women) of my acquaintance, I’m the only one who’s getting her news from cyberspace; all the rest of them watch TV and maybe, if they’re really interested, supplement it with a local newspaper. And these are *not* some doddering old fools, of Repub orientation, either. They’re just not all that interested. Besides… You can watch TV *and* knit at the same time; can you say the same about the ‘puter screen?

  • If Senator John McCain is wise for not doing this wrong wooing! and won’t if he really is for the American people as I think he is. John McCain won’t be doing any “wooing” of Dobsons or any of the other Christian Right leaders.

    As a Christian who finds the strong arm tactics of James Dobson and other Christian Right leaders totally wrong and way out of bounds both as Americans and as Christians I want to say I hope that no candidate joins them in there long term agenda to chip away at what the founding fathers of our great land of freedom put in place, namely freedom of Religion and freedom from religion with a strong wall of separation between church and state!

    I wish Barack Obama had not been wooing voters from the likes of Farrakhan, Wright, McCulkin and others! I bet he wishes that to now..ROFLMAO!

  • roger ..mc cain has wooed paisley and hagee already ..

    libra … it’s just one of those things … everybody i know is wired .. all my sisters .. sons daughters .. s-i-l’s .. you … the only cable i see is clips off the net … the only teevee i’m aware of is when it gets referenced online .. been that way for years .. since ’93 or so … i thought nearly everyone had a computer by now …

  • Mr. Dobson took issue with a litany of Sen. McCain’s positions, including support for embryonic-stem-cell research and opposition to a Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Those stances, plus Sen. McCain’s discussion of global warming and his push to outlaw torture and shut down the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have “frustrated” conservatives “whom McCain seems to have written off,” Mr. Dobson said.

    If McCain has indeed written off the Taliban halfwits and general subhuman scum who support Dobson, then good for him. These people only prove we should have ethnically cleansed the South when we had the chance in 1865.

  • Roger:

    Thanks for proving that Christianity is the religion that revels in ignorance. You’re a perfect example of a Good Christian. You halfwitted moron.

  • Neil Wilson said he’d “even willing to bet that Jesus thought torture was a bad idea – something about loving your neighbour.”

    He’d lose that bet. Jesus used the following story to threaten the torture (torment) of those who had been forgiven a huge debt but refused to forgive others:

    Matthew 18:21-35 (King James Version)
    King James Version (KJV)
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    21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

    22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

    23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

    24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

    25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

    26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

    27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

    28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

    29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

    30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

    31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

    32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

    33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

    34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

    35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

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