Lou Dobbs: Phony Populist

Guest Post by Morbo

I was glad to see the Carpetbagger’s piece this week about Lou Dobbs, CNN’s resident anti-illegal immigrant hysteria monger.

We should keep an eye on Dobbs for a couple of reasons. For starters, his appeal cuts across partisan lines. People aren’t sure where to put Dobbs politically. Last November, I was startled to read a profile of him in The New Yorker that contained this anecdote:

On Dobbs’s office wall is a framed drawing with a note from Kurt Vonnegut: “You, as the only big-time television personality capable of not only feeling but experiencing sorrow for American working stiffs, are our hero.”

Vonnegut was essentially a socialist — yet he admired Dobbs. The article went on to say, “The left, to which Vonnegut belongs, can embrace Dobbs for his opposition to big corporations and his support for a higher minimum wage, national health insurance, and abortion rights. The right likes him for his views on immigration, political correctness, gun control, the United Nations, and all efforts to limit American sovereignty.” (For more evidence of Dobbs’ crossover appeal, consider that the story was reprinted on Pat Buchanan’s website.)

Fair or not, some people view Dobbs as a progressive and pin him to our side. To be honest, some of what Dobbs has to say might actually be progressive. He sticks up for the middle class and blasts corporate welfare. It does have a certain appeal.

Yet I believe we must resist the siren call of Dobbs because his anti-illegal alien rants border on hysteria and are becoming increasingly reckless and embarrassing.

I’m not knocking Dobbs for speculating about the effect a tide of illegal immigration might be having on our economy. That discussion is legitimate. But Dobbs never stops there. He feels compelled to wander into the Zone of the Xenophobes. Illegal aliens have to be carriers of diseases. They have to be criminals. They have to be the rapists of children. This is not useful analysis; it is demagoguery.

Dobbs is mining xenophobic attacks that have popped up repeatedly throughout American history. In the post-Civil War period, Irish immigrants were accused of being violent, un-American and beholden to an alien religion. A few years later, immigrants from Eastern European nations were attacked for supposedly dragging down American culture and being criminals. Later still, Chinese immigrants were similarly tarred.

Increasingly, people are calling Dobbs on his reckless disregard for facts and shrill rhetoric. I expect him to have a good run, but he will implode sooner or later. When that happens, I’d rather Dobbs be far away from the progressive side of the aisle.

Dobbs has gotten carried away with his rhetoric and rising viewership. I’m sure he’s being egged on by CNN, just as MSNBC has encouraged Olbermann’s wonderful rants. The extreme sells. Outrage sells.

I do support his opposition to corporate excesses and power. He’s like Huffington in that he was on “their” side and now is not. Like Huffington, I suspect he is less on “our” side than he is on his own side.

  • Dobbs is like a massive octopus, capable of reaching out and embracing both extremes of the political bell-curve. It is this ability of entertaining a “consensus of extremisms” that makes him dangerous—not only to those two extreme ends of the political spectrum, but to all points in between.

    Dobbs screams about the evils of immigration, and how these evils are bringing down the Republic—and yet, Dobbs is so fundamentally dense that he cannot realize that the same Republic upon he’s so fond of spewing incredible amounts of shillful spite was estabished by immigrants. It was designed and put into practice by immigrants, and the children of immigrants. If was fought for, over the course of more than two full centuries, by immigrants.

    The only thing that was here before the immigrants, that is still here today, is the dirt. Well, maybe some dinosaur bones. Some mountains. And a few really, REALLY old trees. But as for people, every last person in the country is here today because of some other person who got on a boat, or a plane, or walked an ancient land-bridge from Siberia—and immigrated to this continent. If Dobbs can’t accept that, then maybe his membership in the greater human community should be called into question. He seems to claim that he’s either the dirt, or the dinosaur bones, or the mountains, or the trees. In any of the four, he doesn’t qualify—or quantify—as “human.”

    Maybe the Sci-Fi people could give him his own television series. He could star as the missing Cylon in a Battlestar Galactica spin-off—especially since his “membership in the greater human community” has become so questionable as of late….

  • Illegal aliens have to be carriers of diseases.

    Ironic since a lot of people are waiting on the results of TB tests and not because they shared a flight with an illegal alien.

    They have to be criminals. They have to be the rapists of children.

    Yeah. We didn’t have any of that shit before illegal immigrants started entering the US. Or maybe he’s arguing that it’s better to be robbed, murdered, assaulted or raped by an American?
    Wouldn’t surprise me. I wonder if K.V. wants his letter back?

    As for what “side” Dobbs is on … excuse me while I yawn. I suppose someone could say Dobbs = Xenophobic Freak therefore all progressives = Zenophobic Freaks. But as a progressive or a liberal or a dirty hippy, I’ve been accused of plotting to force everyone to marry someone of the same gender, supporting “genocide” (abortion/stem cell research) and trying to make Osama bin Laden Emperor of the World 4EVA. So remind me why I would care about this?

    I’d actually welcome that sort of discussion. We could talk about how for every one Dobbs who is identified as a progressive there is and always be a dozen Dobsons who are clearly neo-cons.

    We could talk about how Dobbs is just a pundit but there are maniacs a-plenty in the mAdministration or who get invited to the WH for super secret chats with the Chimperor.

    If they want to narrow the conversation to xenophobia we could talk about the men locked up in Gitmo or even the shocking non-response to the Iraqi refugee crisis. Hell, we could even talk about why we’re in Iraq in the first place. There are so many things we could talk about, if any of Team Bush are feeling lucky. Do you think they feel lucky?

  • Isn’t it amazing that there is such an industry in opinions. All Dobbs has to sell are his opinions. We gather here daily to bandy opinions about. We get fightin’ mad over our opinions. Opinions are the ultimate intangibles.

    Wecome back to freedom Dr Kervorkian

  • Every time I see another clip about what a whack job Dobbs is becoming, it just bums me out. I used to watch him occasionally and always felt like he called people on their bullshit and appeared to actually push back when some talking head would come on his show and make some ridiculous comment. At the very least, he seemed capable of having some reasoned discourse on some important topics (see Al Gore’s new book).

    But with this immigration thing, I can’t tell if he really, really, really believes the bullshit that he is now shoveling…..or if he knows what a hot-button topic this is and is milking it for all it’s worth….or is it just a situation where he believes his own hype and thinks, hey, if all these people are listening to me, I must be right!! And anyone who disagrees with me must be wrong! And if they are wrong, they must be dangerous, just like the dirty immigrants……

    Pride goeth before the fall, Mr. Dobbs.

  • Dobbs is an interesting study, actually, and it would be fascinating to meet him one-on-one off the record over a openness inspiring drinks and figure out where he really stands. For a decade, he toils in obscurity doing a daily recap of the business news – playing it not only straight, but the rap on him was that he was duller than watching paint dry. His show is on the cancellation list, gets reformatted, moved around a couple of times. . . and all of a sudden he emerges as a screaming cable head, an unusual mix of populist and nationalist; of libertarianism, Ayn Rand, and serious isolationism. And I’ll be damned: it worked. His ratings soar over where they had been at the end of his “straight business news” days. Is this who he really is, or is the joke on his new fans? Or is he doing what sells to keep his job (like the US Attorneys who got removed from the Rove/Gonzales/Sampson/Goodling list)?

  • Personally, I like Dobbs, and others of the same ilk for whom we cannot develop a label or convuluted tag. At least we have to listen to what he says, not to what we expect him to say. I am out of country for some months, and have not had recent viewing of his immigration rants, but basically, though I consider myself a progressive, I am against illegal immigration. My wife is foreign-born, and though she has worked in Europe for the US govt for over 30 years, I have to go though the bureaucratic maze, and I expect other immigratants to do the same. There is a national security issue in all this that the publicans , especially George W. Custer, seem to ignore….

  • The Bible has a lesson to teach here.

    Put ye not faith in mortal men.
    Embrace those issues that Lou Dobbs is correct about and praise him for his views.
    Chastise him for those things you find unworthy.

    We should ally ourselves with righteousness, not any one person. Often, we will find ourselves in consistent company, but that is only by mechanism, not choice.

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