McCain and his campaign really should learn more about ‘a Google’

This week, John McCain tacitly conceded his campaign’s shortcomings as they relate to research. It was, after all, the excuse they used when McCain cozied up to radical TV preacher John Hagee and Rod Parsley. We pursued them for a year, the campaign said, but we didn’t know anything about them.

So, while talking about his search for a running mate, McCain said the other day, “We’re going through a process where you get a whole bunch of names, and ya — well, basically, it’s a Google. You just, you know, what you can find out now on the Internet. It’s remarkable, you know.”

The remarks, of course, suggested McCain didn’t quite understand what he was saying, but he at least seemed to appreciate the value in looking into those McCain chooses to associate with.

It’s remarkable, then, that the McCain campaign could be this inept.

ABC’s Rick Klein reports: Sen. John McCain on Friday abruptly cancelled a Monday fundraiser that had been scheduled at the home of a Texas oilman, after ABC News contacted the campaign inquiring about a verbal blunder the Texan made during an unsuccessful 1990 campaign for governor.

Clayton Williams stirred controversy during his 1990 campaign for governor of Texas with a botched attempt at humor in which he compared rape to weather. Within earshot of a reporter, Williams said: “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.” […]

McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said the Monday event was being cancelled, given the offensive comments. He said he could not yet say what McCain would do with donations brought into the campaign by Williams.

That’s no small sum, either. ABC News’ report added that Williams recently boasted of already having raised more than $300,000 for McCain.

First, it seems pretty obvious that McCain should give back the money Williams raised for him, or better yet, donate it to a charity that combats and responds to rape in society.

Second, McCain did the right thing by cancelling, but note that the campaign only backpedalled after ABC called. McCain was otherwise more than willing to hang out with this misogynistic right-wing clown and take his money.

Which leads us to the broader point: this campaign sure is incompetent.

One of two points is true: either McCain’s campaign knew about Clayton Williams’ background and didn’t care, or the campaign never bothered to check. I have no idea which is the right one, but neither is encouraging.

This keeps happening to these guys. McCain campaigns with Hagee, and his team says they never checked him out. He campaigns with Parsley, and his team says they never checked him out. He hires lobbyists to run his entire campaign operation, and then has to fire a big chunk of his team because his aides never checked them out.

We are, in other words, talking about a presidential campaign that is completely lacking in a sense of right and wrong, or a campaign that is hopelessly incompetent, making the same mistake over and over again.

I’ve seen candidates for state legislature with more sophistication. Is this what we can expect from a McCain White House?

To be fair, Williams isn’t a part of McCain’s inner-circle, he’s just some right-wing fat-cat hosting a fundraiser for a candidate. But let’s not forget, as far as McCain is concerned, those who host fundraisers for a candidate are necessarily “associates” of the candidate. And, as far as McCain is concerned, if you “associate” with unsavory characters, it’s incumbent on a candidate to “apologize” publicly.

Senator, we’re waiting.

Bleah. I think it’s a little over-sensitive to respond to an off-color joke like that. I make jokes like that sometimes.

Granted, I’ve never been raped. I know the perspective changes.

  • I can’t get too outrage-driven by Williams. His insensitive joke was not intended to be public. And to forever banish him from fundraising is beyond absurd.

    But what I do find absurd is McCain’s naivete about googling. The internet is fine for finding out what is public knowledge in the last few years. It’s a good way to find out what people are thinking or talking about. And it’s a good way to find out what Danp might learn without any professional opposition researchers out there. But since he’s running for president, he might want to treat it as though it’s just “what everyone already knows.”

  • I just finished reading Scott McClellan’s book – which, incidentally was very well written, and he mentioned the Williams “joke”.

  • If the way that McCain “vets” his campaign staff, fundraisers and public endorsements is indicative of the care with which he will “vet” his presidential appointees, it’s another case of “just like Bush.”

    Where is Brownie these days? I hear he’s looking for a job in the McCain Administration.

  • well, posters #1 & #2, just imagine for a sec if that had been said by an Obama supporter who’s just raised $300k for his man. Ya think it wouldn’t have sprouted wings not only in wingnut hollow but throughout MSM as well? Not the thing to have associated with your campaign, especially if you’re trying to court disaffected Clintonistas.

  • The comments on the WSJ blog are pretty funny. If McCain can’t catch a break from the posters on the WSJ he’s in a lot of trouble.

  • What about Rezko, Wright, and Father Pfleger.

    Father Pfleger last July invited Farakkhan to his his church and warmly praised him.

    Then two months later Obama invites Pfleger to Iowa to hold religious events and campaign with Obama.

    Did Obama not know about google.

    Did Obama not know about google when Rezko was under investigation. Rezko had been named in many chicago papers for wrongdoing. Yet this who Obama does a sweetheart land deal with.

    I know this is a partisan site but when your candidate is Obama it takes some nerve to talk about vetting.

  • You have a candidate who had 20 year relationships with Rezko, Wright and Father Pfleger.

    After the Wright national press club appearance it was Father Pfleger who acted as a moral compass to these people.

    What about Obama having Tony Rezko raise 250,000 for him. This was when Rezko was under investigation. This was all over the chicago papers. Not some incident from 18 years ago. Then Obama lies about how much Rezko raised. He lied about never seeing him at a party. He said he couldn’t remember if he was under investigation at the time. Another lie. He said he couldn’t produce what meetings he had with him in the state senate because he didn’t keep any records. He said he couldn’t remember if he called him the day he bought the house. He not only called him they went togetherr.

    This is utter hypocricy. Talk about living in a glass house.

    You make it like your candidate is a saint. He is a punk.

  • maya (5), I did criticize Obama for dumping Johnson, the vetter who got a cheap loan from Countrywide and served on some compensation boards that approved large salaries for CEO’s. And I criticized him for dumping Samantha Powers, when she called Clinton a monster. I just think you can’t run an effective administration or campaign if you are going to restrict yourself to people who are absolutely pure. Furthermore, I think it really dilutes the power of these association arguments when you complain about these secondary relationships to people who vet or raise money. Norman Hsu or Rezko are a different story, but the real venom needs to be reserved for people like Gramm, Davis, Black, etc. – people who have conflicts of interest while helping to form policy.

  • “ABC News’ report added that Williams recently boasted of already having raised more than $300,000 for McCain.”

    Why, that’s almost enough for Rudi to pay himself back for his campaign loan. Problem solved, John–just give it to Rudi!

  • Danp @ 9: I think that most of this (if not all of it) is a judgment call. And there have been many cases of this where I felt the disassociation call was the wrong one. Samantha Powers is an excellent example of that; I agree with you fully about her. What she said was out of line, but I agree not bad enough to warrant getting rid of her. (I forget, did Obama actually fire her, or did she resign of her own volition? If the former, bad of Obama. If the latter, eh, it was her choice.)

    But I do think there are some things beyond the pale, and disassociation is the correct choice when they happen. Maybe it’s just because I’m a woman, but that kind of rape joke really pisses me off. I don’t much like sexist, racist, homophobic, or generally bigoted jokes of any kind. And unless someone can show that they genuinely regret ever being like that and have changed for the better, I say relegate them to fringe where they belong.

    A big part of the problem these days is not that these bigoted people exist, but that people who should or do know better do not confront this kind of bigotry and show they disapprove of it. It’s the old “evil wins when good people do nothing” canard. We can’t be silent about this, because silence implies consent.

    McCain was pretty stupid (CB’s choice of “incompetent” is a good word) by not having learned of Williams’ sense of humor in advance. But at least, after learning of it, he made, in my opinion, the right call. Too little too late for me to ever support Bush’s third term, but the right call none the less.

  • That is McCain’s “experience” in a nutshell …making the same mistakes over and over again for 30 yrs..

    btw…Pelosi, Hoyer, and friends just caved to give Bush everything he asked for in a FISA compromise which includes telecom immunity. Unchecked spying power on American citizens without any oversight or warrant or even an explanation. Stupid dems…now they can begin eavesdropping on the democratic campaigns

    . Glenn Greenwald asks the question, “…I ask this literally, not rhetorically: can someone identify even one meaningful event from the past 18 months that would have been different had the GOP retained control of both houses of Congress? Just one…”

    The dem leaders think this makes them look tough on national security but it really only makes them look like the cowards they are by surrendering to Bush after the first and only time they defied him. Shut up Pelosi and do what your told says Bush.

  • Have you considered the possibility that the republican party doesn’t have too many good guys and the ones who are aren’t McCain supporters?

  • Shade Tail (12): In the cases of both Samantha Powers and Johnson, they officially dropped out of the campaign voluntarily. We may never actually know what conversations actually took place. In both cases they said they didn’t want to be a distraction. On the subject of Williams, I respect your opinion. I’d like to say I would feel the same way I do if I were a woman, but of course, I can never know that.

  • First, it seems pretty obvious that McCain should give back the money Williams raised for him, or better yet, donate it to a charity that combats and responds to rape in society.

    I don’t think this is obvious at all. The fact that a TX oilman made an off color joke 18 (!) years ago is neither surprising nor should it mean that person is banned from public life forever. What’s the statute of limitations on poor choice of words?

    This is like Michelle Obama being taken to task for her senior thesis or Webb getting flak for something he wrote in 1979.

    Time to move on. If all you’ve got on someone is something overheard or written more than a decade and a half ago, I say you’ve got nothing.

  • Yeah, McCain this and McCain that. But Obama is no different. Obama is constantly embarrassed by those in his own past, whom he then has to disavow. Our lack of choice in today’s candidates is utterly depressing

  • I remember that campaign and Clayton Williams made another joke that was even worse (something to do with the fog coming in), but lighten up. What concerns me is that McCain is seeking money from Midland oilmen who are Bush family cronies. Why do you think our gas prices are so high? Duh! Talk about questionable associations!

    Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain are NOT running for President, by the way. Their husbands are. Leave the ladies out of it.

  • @ 9. On June 14th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, Danp said:

    “…the real venom needs to be reserved for people like Gramm, Davis, Black, etc. – people who have conflicts of interest while helping to form policy.”

    Exactly, – U sure saved me a lot of typing.

  • Have we become so accustomed to bad government by mediocre people that we are no longer willing to hold our candidates to a reasonably high standard of conduct and association?

  • “Have we become so accustomed to bad government by mediocre people that we are no longer willing to hold our candidates to a reasonably high standard of conduct and association?”

    I think it’s more like the rhetoric about these things has gotten so blown out of proportion and over the top, that it’s really hard to tell for most people when it’s really something to hold the person accountable for.
    Not only that, but the rhetoric and attack on the “other side” for the multitude of human failings found in the human beings involved has reached such absurd and pretentious levels that each side must pretend that their candidate is Jesus and the other’s is the devil. I’m really quite sick of it now.
    The truth is, real people make mistakes and find themselves in poor company sometimes. Real people have friends for many years who turn out to be completely different than they thought they were. Real people also have friends who once did bad things, but have since made amends and turned their life around.
    But people have this over the top and unrealistic view that their candidates should be messiah figures, blessed and without sin, able to walk on water, heal the sick, and fart a pleasant rose scent. It’s really retarded at this point. That’s the best word for it. Sorry for any PC nazis that offends. Actually I’m not, that’s what you get for being a PC nazi.

  • Another OldVet said “Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain are NOT running for President, by the way. Their husbands are. Leave the ladies out of it.”

    Seriously. What happened to having class? Every person who posts or says things about either of those ladies I just write off as complete no-class trash. I won’t even take any other opinion they speak seriously after that. The only response comments like that deserve are “Yo momma’s so fat…” because that’s on the same level.

  • First, it seems pretty obvious that McCain should give back the money Williams raised for him, or better yet, donate it to a charity that combats and responds to rape in society.

    Why is that obvious? He said something monumentally stupid and offensive 18 years ago so he should be banned from political participation for life? Not only that, but everyone he knows should be prohibited from giving if he was the person who asked? It seems like another example of molehill politics to me.

  • #5, you wrote “imagine for a sec if that had been said by an Obama supporter who’s just raised $300k for his man.” Why “imagine”, just look at the truth. No Obama person did it. I’m really tired of you Bushites always saying things like that or saying, “everybody does it” because everybody doesn’t do it. Crooks and liars do those things. And since when was that ever an answer. I want my candidate to be above what “everybody else does” but I guess I hold my candidates to a higher standard that you Bushites and Republicans do.

  • Is there something more we’re missing here?

    ‘Cause it took months for him to say nay to the religious nuts for far worse.

  • It’s male chauvanist pigs like Claytie that have turned me off to Republicans forever. It’s not the words it’s the mind set.

  • Danp said:
    “I can’t get too outrage-driven by Williams. His insensitive joke was not intended to be public. And to forever banish him from fundraising is beyond absurd.”

    As a woman, a Texan, and a rape victim I want to set the record straight.

    Clayton “Claybob” Williams made that “insensitive joke” in front of a group of REPORTERS. See: Texas Candidate’s Comment About Rape Causes a Furor

    Comments, or as you (and Claybob) characterize them “jokes,” like that show an incredible lack of character and respect for women. Making them in front of reporters and thinking that they will be “off the record” is idiotic.

    That election for Texas governor was the first time I voted for a Democrat. Ann Richards did a wonderful job for our state. Too bad she was ousted by the man who would lead us into the Iraq war.

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