McCain fails to appreciate his Bush problem

In an interview that will air tonight on ABC, Charlie Gibson asks John McCain about one of the principal criticisms he receives from Democrats in general, and Barack Obama in specific.

Though the general election has yet to hit high gear, in the latter stages of his primary fight against Sen. Clinton, Obama did turn his sights on McCain. And the line of attack was clear: a vote for McCain is a vote for a third Bush term, Obama contends.

“I hear that over and over from the Democrats and from Senator Obama, and I understand that political tactic. I don’t think it’s going to work,” McCain told “World News” in an interview Thursday.

“What Americans want now, in my opinion, from having literally hundreds of town hall meetings, what are you going to do about gas prices? What are you going to do about health care? What are you going to do about the threats that we face from radical Islamic extremism?”

“I haven’t heard anybody at a town hall meeting, although I’m sure that it’s on their minds, say, “Well, you’re too close to President Bush.” What they’ve said is, “What’s your plan of action?” That’s what they’re interested in, and that’s how I think that I can meet that particular campaign tactic,” McCain countered.

McCain’s response suggests he doesn’t really understand the problem he’s facing. The issue isn’t whether he’s “too close” to Bush (though you can expect to see the picture of them hugging quite a bit); the issue that he agrees with Bush on everything that matters. When he hosts town-hall meetings and people ask him, “What’s your plan of action?” no one cares whether he and Bush are buddies, but everyone cares that his “plan of action” is identical to that of Bush.

Indeed, McCain is making this easy. Which issues does he bring up? Energy, healthcare, and foreign policy in the Middle East. And how is McCain different from Bush in these areas? That’s just it — he isn’t different at all.

On Iraq, for example, this video helps drive the point home nicely:

Yglesias adds a very good point:

As John McCain likes to say, he has at various points in time disagreed with George W. Bush’s tactical approach to Iraq. But in the ways that matter, he’s generally agreed with Bush’s strategic vision….

In some ways, I think McCain himself doesn’t quite realize how Bush-esque he is. He clearly doesn’t like Bush, and has been disliking him for a long time. But that kind of personalized, overblown disdain for Bush-the-man can wind up leading you to overestimate Bush-the-grand-strategist. To McCain, Bush’s policies have failed because of Bush. Replace Bush with McCain and shift tactics around the margins, and the same basic ideas should work out fine. It’s a nice theory, but I don’t think it’s a true theory.

Noam Scheiber added:

McCain believes the issue in Iraq was competence–he doesn’t think Bush had it, and is confident he does. But, as many argued at the time of the invasion, the bigger problem was that it’s just really, really hard to occupy a large country, particularly a large Muslim country rife with sectarian divisions, and you should try to avoid it if at all possible. Bush didn’t try to avoid it, and McCain wouldn’t have either. Worse, like Bush, he still doesn’t think we should have tried to avoid it, even with the benefit of hindsight.

And the senator still thinks the problem is Obama thinks McCain is “too close to President Bush.” McCain doesn’t, in other words, even understand the challenge in front of him.

Don’t tell Grandpa Simpson that he doesn’t understand the problem. You will just make him angry. Nothing worse than an angry old man that doesn’t know what he is talking about.

  • Bush and McCain seem attached at the hip to me.

    I see no problem in repeating this observation OVER and OVER and OVER.

    Sounds like its more of McCain’s problem then anyone elses.

  • When an animal is facing enivetable slaughter, it’s best that it be oblivious to its fate.

  • The real problem here is that conservatives are just wrong about everything and are stuck with a very limited set of policy choices to choose from. For example, the reason why we went into Iraq with too few troops was because people wouldn’t have accepted the larger, more expensive war that we needed to fight. They had to sell the war as a cakewalk because it was an optional war that lots of folks opposed, and had they warned people what we’d really be facing, it would have been much harder to sell.

    And that’s the way it is with ALL issues. While conservatives like to pretend that this is ala carte and they can pick and choose whatever they want, the truth is that they’re stuck with limited options and the deeper you get into the weeds, the more obvious these limited choices become. So McCain is stuck having to denounce Bush’s failures while only being able to choose from the same policies that created these failures in the first place.

  • This is the problem with the McSame/Identical Cousins theme. McCain’s strategy is to suggest that Bush is incompetent, but that the philosophy of “real conservatism” is still wonderful. The Dems must prove it is not.

    Here are a few examples to prove it: 1) Accounting scandals 2) Mining Disasters 3)Lead paint toys 4) Pharmaceutical testing 5) Science vs Global Warming 6) Failed bridges and levees 7) Removal of conflicts of interest in banking/investment leading to housing and credit crises 8) Loss of jobs due to outsourcing 9) Loss of blue collar jobs due to unrestricted immigration 10) Defense contractors 11) Walter Reed and Fort Bragg 12) 47 million without health insurance 13) Lower real income, largely due to weak dollar and energy policies that benefit business.

    Finally, there is a matter of simple fairness. If you make $30,000 per year, the amount of tax you pay depends on whether you work for it or sit on the couch watching your portfolio grow. True conservatism actually discourages production of goods and services.

  • I have no idea how that emoticon got in there. Experiment: eight + “)” = 8)

  • I haven’t heard anybody at a town hall meeting, although I’m sure that it’s on their minds, say, “Well, you’re too close to President Bush.” What they’ve said is, “What’s your plan of action?” That’s what they’re interested in, and that’s how I think that I can meet that particular campaign tactic,” McCain countered.

    And dammit, these five people at his town hall meetings want an answer!

  • A friend of mine is a very arch conservative Republican. Even she’s given up on McCain. I think his speech Tuesday night was the final straw for her (“Looking at McCain, I think R voters hadn’t seen him lately when they voted for him. He is a feeble old grandaddy and his war wounds look
    like arthritis. He is pathetic.”). Hated Hillary Clinton, but doesn’t seem bothered at all by Obama.

    I think John McCain is absolutely clueless to the fact that people are exhausted after these last horrible years. The thought of more of the same is intollerable. He’s a relic. He looks and sounds like a dying old dinosaur.

  • “McCain fails to appreciate his Bush problem”

    The header makes it sound like McCain has crabs.

    Should he shave or wax?

  • McCain’s strategy is to suggest that Bush is incompetent, but that the philosophy of “real conservatism” is still wonderful. The Dems must prove it is not. — Danp

    Yes, yes, yes!

  • What they’ve said is, “What’s your plan of action?”

    And I said: I’m not close to Bush at all, in any way. I will not cut brush or ride a bike. I’ll take refreshing catnaps instead.

  • Heh- judging by the picture, I find it hard to believe that McCain is against gay marriage 😎

    Perhaps he will walk Ellen down the isle after all…

  • Mark my words, guys and gals. “Presumptive” gooper candidate vs. actual candidate: Mitt McShoulders. Campaigning will not be kind to McCain and he’s gonna take ill…and the mittster, whom all the conservatives want anyway, will step in. Wasted $ from Obama hitting McCain’s weaknesses which won’t apply to Mitt. Whole. New. Ballgame.

    You read it here first.

  • As I told my Republican mother-in-law the other day, until McCain recognizes that the Iraq War was a massive strategic failure, he has no chance of getting my vote.

    After that, he would need to chuck any neocon adviser who was in any way connected to the history-making disaster that was called the Bush Administration.

    If he could actually implement a fiscally responsible budget and get rid of the war-mongering, then he’d have a chance. Until then, I’ll do everything I can to make sure he is NOT elected.

  • i’m trying to wrap my head around the mental gymnastics necessary to describe the disappearing act mccain is trying to pull off here.

    he can’t come out and say he opposes bush, because that would be unpatriotic, and clearly “more bush” is unacceptable to a majority of the party to which they belong. so he’s essentially attempting to create a universe where bush simply does not exist. it’s a vision in a vacuum.

    it’s hilarious.

  • first, aristedes, why single out Hillary when Biden and Edwards (and Bill) all committed the same offense?

    more important, however, let RNC use what little money it has to place that ad anywhere and everywhere. nearly every voter will look at that and shrug. they all get it: competitors say not-so-nice things to draw distinctions in an effort to win. especially when Clinton, Biden and Edwards all spend the next week praising Obama, that ad wont carry any weight at all. which is exactly why advertising based on the other sides’ statements in primaries are used relatively rarely and with little impact.

    is Obama ready? surely you’ll believe RNC’s highly edited ad over your own lying eyes (and ears and brain), right?

  • Frankly @ 15

    You’re asking McCain to be the McCain from the 2000 campaign… He can’t go back, because that would make him a 100% flip flopper…. Today he’s only a 90% flip flopper, and that is good enough for a Republican… 100% is a little too much.

    8)

  • There is something to be said for Mitt Romney being coronated at their convention. Mitt won Montana handily, while McCain only finished 3rd – behind Ron Paul.

  • Hey I have an idea that will help gas prices. Let’s threaten to immediately start a 3rd war in the middle east by attacking Iran, a major oil producer. What? You want prices to go down? Sorry, senior moment.

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