McCain mulled party switch as recently as ’01

Josh Marshall noted this morning,” I was wondering when this would come up. As a lot of us remember, John McCain was very close to leaving the Republican party in 2001 and becoming either a Democrat or, much more likely, an independent a la Jim Jeffords who would caucus with the Democrats. The Hill gives the story another shake and talks to folks like Daschle and others who were in on the negotiations.”

The funny thing is, The Hill hasn’t really given the story another shake; it’s just that the story from last March has suddenly been re-discovered by political observers. Mitt Romney began emphasizing this over the last week, and slowly but surely, it’s apparently gaining traction.

To be sure, it seems like the kind of story that could undermine McCain’s bid quite a bit.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist.

Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCain’s case, they said, it was McCain’s top strategist who came to them. (emphasis added)

According to the story in The Hill, Weaver asked Daschle and Downey in March 2001 why Democrats hadn’t reached out to McCain to switch parties. “Well, if the right people asked him,” Weaver said, according to Downey, adding that he responded, “The calls will be made. Who do you want?”

After the lunch, Downey immediately contacted Daschle, who initiated a series of conversations with McCain about how to execute a party switch, including issues such as committee assignments and seniority. Other Dem senators involved with the discussions confirmed these events.

So, what happened? Vermont’s Jim Jeffords, one of three Republican senators Dems urged to switch, left the GOP and gave control of the chamber to Dems. At that point, Chafee and McCain then broke off their discussions.

Is the story true? McCain denies ever having considered caucusing with Dems, but the story is hard to dismiss out of hand. Indeed, Downey and Daschle had little reason to make up the story 10 months ago, when it initially ran.

Indeed, Downey denied any political motivation, saying he is still friends with Weaver and “deeply respects” McCain. “I would have been happy to come forward last year or the year before if someone had asked … There were meetings in offices. You can’t deny [these meetings took place]. They occurred.”

Downey added, “It’s my hope that John McCain is the Republican nominee because from my perspective, although I think Democrats are going to win, if they don’t, McCain is the sort of man I would feel comfortable [with] as the president of the United States. I’m not trying to hurt him.”

What’s more, if the point of this story was to undermine McCain’s campaign, it wouldn’t leak in March 2007; it would leak much later, during the heat of the campaign. Such as, you know, now.

Nevertheless, conservatives, many of whom forgot about this story months ago, are starting to pick up on it again.

Will McCain finally face questions about what transpired? Will Republican voters care? Will the media? I guess we’ll find out soon.

I don’t really think many Republican voters will caremuch that McCain mulled over going to the Democrats.

After the past 7 years, many of those Republicans will probably have been mulling the same thing.

  • Yet another reason why he is more attractive to moderates of both parties and independents… it’s only a problem among neo-conservatives, who are quickly losing control of the party, no matter what happens these next few days.

  • This will be spun as McCain’s diabolically crafty attempt to infiltrate the Dems in order to keep peace from breaking out anywhere in the world.

  • This guy McCain is all over the board.
    That’s one of his “endearing” qualities.

    He can stay stuff that even a flaming liberal can agree with…
    And in the next moment go bat shit crazy about Bush’s Iraq mess.

    That’s why he is super dangerous in the General Election.

    He is a random sentence spewer with enough spice and old-boy wisdom to actually become president.
    He is going to be fun to watch in the debate with Hillary.
    She said last night she welcomes such a debate…
    That’s going to be quite a hoot.
    It is going to get nasty very fast…
    His tendency to interrupt with barbs and zingers will be in full-go mode…
    She’ll start talking about bringing two brigades home a month…
    And he’ll positively crush her underfoot.

  • Note:

    I should explain why I think McCain will go for the throat on that.
    She postured herself last night as a bit of a military tactician.
    A bit of a field general.
    That’s the sort of thing that Barack will let past…
    But not McVain.
    He jump in with fangs wide open.

  • I can’t figure out which, if any, would be an easier candidate to defeat in the general, McCain or Romney???

  • What’s amazing about this new Republican coalition (McCain, Rudy, and Ahnuld) is who’s left out of that coalition: Evangelicals. You have 2 social liberals and one who reportedly cusses at anyone in Congress who tries to bring social issues to a vote. It is ironic that Evangelicals voting for Huckabee because they want to prove they are to be heard are ensuring their agenda will be an afterthought for years. I like Huckabee but he would have a much harder time bringing the money guys in than McCain would and a harder time with the foreign policy guys than Mitt would. So McCain gets the nomination and gay marriage, abortion, and stem cell issues are at a standstill. McCain spends no time offending the Evangelical base, true, but he also spends no time trying to advance their agenda either. McCain is pulling together security people, environmentalists, and spending restraint advocates. Explain to me where we values voters fit in.

  • Though I’m sure some here don’t want to hear it, it’s not really the worst thing in the world for the parties to nominate candidates who have some cross-partisan appeal–both for winning the election and for governing. The Republicans seem set to do so. Will we?

  • Will we?

    Not if we have an ounce of sense. You’d have to find a nationally prominent, not-batshit-insane, Republican.

    Sen. Nullset, R-NW

  • So McCain gets the nomination and gay marriage, abortion, and stem cell issues are at a standstill. — Mike, @7

    Funny (weird, not “ha-ha”) how Evangelicals can claim, with straight faces, that the above are “social issues” but ignore things like poverty, lack of access to education and to healthcare, not to mention looming problems due to the climate change (Water Wars, anyone? They’re likely to come sooner than the Star ones). “Social issues” are issues which affect entire societies, not just some fringe of religious nuts, who can’t even read and interpret their Bibles correctly.

  • ROTFLMLiberalAO blank-versed:
    He [McCain] is a random sentence spewer with enough spice and old-boy wisdom to actually become president.

    I tend to see him with too much Old Spice and the wisdom of a mere boy. He’s one of the bad old good ole boys. Lao-tse he ain’t.

  • Old story.

    That was well-before the S.T. Express “lost its wheels”, and McCain became a Jerry-Falwell-embracing, Iran-bomb-bomb-bombing, B**ch-word-loving, Feed-the-rich Republican.

  • Mike said:
    McCain spends no time offending the Evangelical base, true, but he also spends no time trying to advance their agenda either. McCain is pulling together security people, environmentalists, and spending restraint advocates. Explain to me where we values voters fit in.

    Mike, while I might quibble with your term “values voters” [which Libra did excellently in #10] Bush has put into place a lot of “faith-based” (aka Welfare for Fundies) initiatives that McCain will simply continue. Don’t worry. Any new Republican will continue to tear down the wall of separation of church and state.

  • Anybody remember South Carolina in 2000?

    I’m amazed McCain stayed a Republican.

    ROTFLMLiberalAO said: “I should explain why I think McCain will go for the throat on [withdrawl from Iraq].
    She postured herself last night as a bit of a military tactician.
    A bit of a field general.
    That’s the sort of thing that Barack will let past…
    But not McVain.
    He jump in with fangs wide open.”

    If Hillary is not ready for this then I would be really amazed.

    John McCain is not some great strategist or national leader. He flew jets (and not that well). He lead a TRAINING squadron. He dropped bombs.

    This is really not superior military experience needed to head the National Command Authority.

    Just ask him how many more Americans have to be cut in half to prove HIS courage.

  • On February 1st, 2008 at 10:31 am, Buddy said:
    I can’t figure out which, if any, would be an easier candidate to defeat in the general, McCain or Romney???

    Romney. No mods really like Romney, and more than likely would vote Dem. McCain attracts mods and pisses off neocons…who nonetheless will vote for him becuase he’s the nominee and they’re friggin’ sheep.

  • This should be extremely telling to all conservatives. McCain is a liberal and when he didn’t get the vote in 2000, his natural tendency was to run to the Dems.

  • By the way, many of us conservatives are not sheep and WILL NOT vote for McCain. I would rather vote for the wolf (Hillary/Obama) than the wolf in sheep’s clothing

  • I agree 100% with the comments about healthcare and education being important. For full disclosure I’m no Evangelical myself, I’m just trying to point out an irony. And I would say that I am concerned about “values” issues, though for different reasons than the Evangelicals (believe it or not, a gay couple getting married has zero impact on my relationship with my wife). But I am concerned about social issues in the light you mentioned, in terms of their impact on society generally. Anyway, back to McCain being a Democrat, a president can only do so much but he would usher is some kind of realignment. If he’s similar to Democrats on so many issues (which he is on some, you have to admit) then where do people go who don’t like where he and the Dems are on those issues? Please tell me our only option left isn’t to rally around Ron Paul in a third party. Oh please tell me it’s not so.

  • Larry said: “This should be extremely telling to all conservatives. McCain is a liberal and when he didn’t get the vote in 2000, his natural tendency was to run to the Dems.”

    Or it could be that conservatives, especially those from Texas, are lying dirtbags and any decent human being, after having his reputation smeared by them in South Carolina in 2000, would think thrice about staying associated to them.

    Of course McCain, not being a decent human being (as demonstrated by his sick crack at Chelsie), only thought once about leaving the Republican’t party, then decided to stick with it and instead kiss the asses of all Boy George II’s contributors for a chance at the nomination in 2008.

    And McCain is NOT a liberal.

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