McCain rediscovers his fondness for putting terrorists on trial

Following up on Adam’s reference from yesterday, Barack Obama raised the ire of the far-right a month ago when he described how he’d like to see Osama bin Laden brought to justice. As Obama explained it, if bin Laden were captured alive (an unlikely scenario in its own right), Obama would want a deliberate, transparent process: “I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he’s engaged in and not to make him into a martyr.”

The RNC and the McCain campaign were — or, at least pretended to be — outraged. McCain told reporters in a written statement: “Let me be clear: Under my administration Osama bin Laden will either be killed on the battlefield or executed. Sen. Obama’s failure to comprehend the implication of the Supreme Court decision he embraced and the historical precedent of Nuremberg raise serious questions about judgment and experience and whether Sen. Obama is ready to assume the awesome responsibilities of commander in chief.”

As of yesterday, McCain apparently believes Obama was right in the first place.

CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked McCain what a McCain administration would do with bin Laden if he were captured alive. “Of course you put him on trial,” McCain said. “I mean, there are ample precedents of — for that. And it might be a good thing to reveal to the world the enormity of this guy’s crimes and his intentions, which are still there and he’s working night and day to destroy everything we stand for and believe in. ”

Pressed for details, McCain added, “We have various options, but the Nuremburg trials are certainly an example of the kind of tribunal that we could move forward with.”

In other words, McCain is now proposing the kind of legal mechanism McCain blasted as outrageous a month ago.

And just to add to the irony, McCain’s comments come one month to the day after the McCain campaign’s in-house blogger, Michael Goldfarb, argued Obama was trying to “have it both ways on” how the U.S. should treat bin Laden.

It has to be tough working for McCain. He changes his tune so often, it’s hard for his staffers to sing along.

And as long as we’re on the subject of McCain and bin Laden, this exchange from the CNN interview was also interesting.

BLITZER: Let’s talk a little bit about some national security issues. You’re president of the United States, you’ve vowed that you will capture Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice. Now we know that President Bush since 9/11 has been doing the best he can. What would you do differently?

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, I’m not going to telegraph a lot of the things that I’m going to do because then it might compromise our ability to do so. But, look, I know the area, I have been there, I know wars, I know how to win wars, and I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden — or put it this way, bring him to justice.

I’m sorry, but these are not the words of someone who deserves to be taken seriously. McCain can’t really expect Americans to believe he has a secret plan to get Osama bin Laden, which he won’t share with the Pentagon or the current commander in chief. This is just madness.

McCain can get bin Laden because he “knows the area”? First, McCain has never been to the lawless area in the mountains between Pakistan and Afghanistan. The notion that his familiarity with the region will help him bring OBL “to justice” is a child-like fantasy.

Second, if his geographic expertise is so extensive, why does he think Iraq shares a border with Pakistan?

Those who find McCain credible on national security issues just aren’t paying attention.

Has anyone noticed that candidate Obama, the guy with no experience, is shaping the national discourse in a number of areas where policy was paralyzed, or no discussion was even allowed? This guy is has shown more leadership than Bush and McCain combined.

  • Can McSame even hold a position long enough for him to spit it out? I’m starting to think it’s not lies or flip-flopping – it’s senility.

  • McCain can’t really expect Americans to believe he has a secret plan to get Osama bin Laden, which he won’t share with the Pentagon or the current commander in chief.

    Why not? It worked for Nixon in 1968. People forget that Nixon campaigned in 1968 on the idea that he had a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam. Of course, he couldn’t divulge that plan unless he was elected. In the end it turned out to be nothing more than a massive surge, sorry, excalation of the war.

  • It’s good to see Obama coming around to McCain’s positions on issues, even if Obama is the one that gets there first.

  • Right, the Fascists – oops, excuse me, Corporatists – would allow a trail that may afford their patsy the opportunity to expose their complicity in the matter, or even demonstrate his innocence. Uh-huh, yeah, right. That binLaden is already dead is moot.

  • Typical GOP knee jerk partisan politics again. Whatever your opponent does, accuse him of being WRONG WRONG WRONG! While you’re at it, accuse him of being a Communist, an Islamofascist, a hippie, a hippo, a pinko, Pinky Tusacdero, a liberal, Liberace, whatever will give undecideds pause for concern, maybe think it’s better to vote for the white guy, or at least, just sit this election out because gosh darn it, it’s so important, yet we’re all so confused as to what the right thing to do is…

    And a little bit later, co-opt his ideas, because his ideas were the right thing to do all along.

    The debates can’t come soon enough. I only hope Obama can be respectful while tearing McCain the new ass he deserves (you know, besides the one on his shoulders, and all the other ones in his staff).

  • I’m pulling my hair out for the lack of follow-up. “I know the area” AAAAAH! “I know how to win wars” AAAAAH! I know Blitzer is a moron, but how can anyone let this stand as is. It is like a cartoon.

    How about this at a minimum: “If you have good ideas for capturing bin Laden, wouldn’t it have been your patriotic duty for the last 7 years to tell the Pentagon what those ideas are?”

  • Two comments: First, Blitzer’s statement that “….you’ve vowed that you will capture Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice. Now we know that President Bush since 9/11 has been doing the best he can.” Excuse me? And just HOW has Bush been doing the best he can? Allowing bin Laden to escape from Tora Bora (read “Jawbreaker” for the best account of this.) Moving the focus to Iraq, along with money, equipment and troops? The bottom line is that Bush LOST the war in Afghanistan. There may still be some hope to turn that around, but the situation is much more dire than when we went in in 2002. And I do recall Bush’s comments about his “not really being that concerned about Osama bin Laden.”

    Secondly, McCain’s statement…”I know wars, I know how to win wars…” He spent 5+ years in a prison camp in North Vietnam, and we lost that war. How does being a POW translate to “knowing wars,” or “winning wars?” This is a total meaningless statement on his part.

  • Or how about “A month ago, your campaign said Obama’s idea of putting bin Laden on trial made him unfit to be CinC. If you try to deny saying it, we have video. But now having thought about it for a minute, you realize just killing bin Laden would make him a martyr. How do we know you wouldn’t, as president, go off half-cocked and fight the ‘war on terror’ in an idiotic way, like Bush. Furthermore, how can we trust anything you say and say you said or didn’t say.”

  • I don’t think you get it. It’s not important what the truth is. What goes out to the public is the content of McCain’s lies, unchallenged by his interviewers. Therefore what McCain says becomes the truth. And it really doesn’t matter that what he says today is directly contrary to what he said yesterday, because that willl never be pointed out. Progressives become frustrated and angry at this, but there is little that can be done, as long as McCain’s nonsensical pronouncements remain unchallenged.

  • In a sane world, the fourth estate would be spotlighting this man’s careless, continual inconsistencies on this and other matters.

    Alas, we do not live in a sane world.

  • yeah, so all I’m saying is, his pronouncements should be challenged — and that they are not makes me wanna scream. nothing original, just venting.

  • How is McCain going to get Bin Laden when he will be looking for him at the border between Iraq and Pakistan (his gaffe not mine)?

  • But, look, I know the area, I have been there, I know wars, I know how to win wars, and I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden — or put it this way, bring him to justice.

    Is McCain blowing smoke? Does he have a secret plan? Damned if I know, but I thought I dig around to see if he’s expressed any thoughts in the past about what to do in Afghanistan. Here’s what I found.

    According to reports, the permanent basing idea was originally discussed when Secretary Rumsfeld visited Kabul in December of last year [2004]. It was also discussed with a Congressional delegation in February 2005, when Arizona Senator John McCain (R-AZ) visited Kabul. McCain and four other U.S. Senators, including Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) met with President Karzai. Senator McCain called for a “long-term strategic partnership…that must endure for many, many years.” In response to a question about the nature of this partnership, Senator McCain mentioned the need for “permanent joint military bases.” Senator Clinton did not mention the idea of bases explicitly, but expressed hope that “friendship and partnership” will expand as it would “strongly” be in both countries’ interests.

    Yesterday, McCain says he’s been to his area. That must refer to his 2005 visit in which he proposes permanent bases as a plan. Perhaps then this is the plan he implicitly contends he has. And it maybe that knows that permanent bases will not play well with the public so he won’t say he wants them explicitly.

    Some enterprising reporter might want to ask him about this.

  • As #6 said, McCain’s Rule 1 is if Obama said it, it’s wrong. Rule 2 is that whatever seems reasonable to McCain at any given time is correct. When Rule 2 yields statements that agree with what Obama said or that disagree with what McCain said earlier, ignore the conflict, and claim Obama is wrong on Iraq.

  • Yes…they are paying attention. They(those who find McCain credible on national security) don’t know that he originally was against having trials for OBL and mocked Obama for the same viewpoint McCain now has. They know he will find OBL and justly put him on trial because he told us so and he’s a war hero.

    Blitzer just stood there knowing no one will know McCain’s hypocrisy.

    btw…OBL IS DEAD…HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. Bush and McCain both know this yet raise him from the grave when ever they need an emotional moment.to show manliness.
    “We are going to find Mussolini and bring him to justice” makes as much sense. You go boys, go get that Mussolini.

  • McCain rediscovers his fondness for putting terrorists on trial

    Will McCain continue to agree with this concept when it is discovered that Bush and Cheney are the terrorist kingpins?

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