McCain rejects his own admissions, denies ignorance on the economy

Earlier this year, in a nationally televised debate, Tim Russert confronted John McCain with some of his inconvenient admissions: “You have said repeatedly, ‘I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues.'” McCain was incredulous and dismissive, “Actually, I don’t know where you got that quote from.”

Soon after, McCain appeared on “Meet the Press,” and Russert returned to the subject and responded to McCain’s slight — “I got [the quote] from John McCain” — and highlighted McCain’s record of admissions about economic ignorance. “OK,” McCain said, no longer able to deny reality, “Let me tell you what I was trying to say and what I meant.”

This morning, in a disconcerting example of dishonesty, McCain went back to pretending his quote collection doesn’t exist.

For those who can’t watch clips online, ABC’s Robin Roberts prefaced a question about economics, telling McCain, “You have admitted that you’re not exactly an expert when it comes to the economy and many have said…” At that point, McCain interrupted: “I have not. I have not. Actually, I have not. I said that I am stronger on national security issues because of all the time I spent in the military. I’m very strong on the economy. I understand it.”

I know it’s best to be cautious about throwing around words like “lie,” but McCain has been confronted with his own remarks on multiple occasions. He knows what he’s admitted, and has been asked to explain his comments. What Roberts said was obviously and demonstrably true — McCain has admitted that he’s “not exactly an expert when it comes to the economy.”

Why would McCain appear on national television and say something he knows to be false? Given his emphasis, especially lately, on honesty in the campaign, why take the risk by lying like this?

Not only does it bring McCain’s character into question when he makes obviously false claims, but it merely serves as another opportunity to remind folks about McCain’s own admissions:

* Seeking to explain his shift to the left on economic issues, McCain claimed: “I didn’t pay nearly the attention to those issues in the past. I was probably a ‘supply-sider’ based on the fact that I really didn’t jump into the issue.” [Jan. 2000]

* “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.” [Nov. 2005]

* “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” [Dec. 2007]

Even one of his top campaign advisors has admitted that McCain has made these comments. Why deny what is plainly true?

What’s more, in addition to the lie about his rhetorical record, it’s worth noting that McCain’s admissions happen to be accurate. He’s demonstrated over and over again that when it comes to economics, McCain is painfully confused.

McCain told an audience earlier this year, “Every time in history we have raised taxes it has cut revenues.” As a matter of reality, McCain was talking gibberish.

A few days prior, at a Republican debate, McCain said, “I don’t believe we’re headed into a recession. I believe the fundamentals of this economy are strong and I believe they will remain strong.” He then reversed course, said the fundamentals of the economy aren’t strong, and inexplicably blamed government spending for creating an economic decline that he didn’t believe existed

He also recently told a national television audience that he’s “glad” when interest rates fall, and “wishes interest rates were zero,” which really doesn’t make any sense.

Since then, McCain has badly flubbed economic tests on energy, the deficit, poverty, and Social Security.

Look, I realize this must be embarrassing for McCain. He’s admitted to not understanding economics, and then went about proving how right he is. But that’s no reason for McCain to go on “Good Morning America” and lie about what he’s said.

It’s all right for a candidate to spin his or her record, but bogus denials are likely to cause a campaign trouble.

I’ll try to say it first:

“It’s all right for a candidate to spin his or her record, but bogus denials are likely to cause a campaign trouble.”

Not as long as the MSM is his pocket.

You can’t challenge John Sidney McCan’t. Every inch of his 5’9″ frame is convinced that he knows what it takes to be President and that he has it. His positions are unassailable and his statements are not to be questioned.

And you certainly CAN’T mention his flip-flops, because he’s no John Kerry.

  • Given his emphasis, especially lately, on honesty in the campaign, why take the risk by lying like this?

    Because Tim Russert is gone and no one else will call him on it.

  • Why would McCain appear on national television and say something he knows to be false? Given his emphasis, especially lately, on honesty in the campaign, why take the risk by lying like this?

    What’s the risk in lying when telling the truth is far worse?

  • “It’s all right for a candidate to spin his or her record, but bogus denials are likely to cause a campaign trouble.”

    You’re kidding, right?

    The US MSM has spent much of the last week swift-boating a 3-star general after he dared to question their over-the-top fluffing of McCain’s War Hero=War President campaign meme.

    You really think they’re going to turn on him just because he’s taking advantage of Tim Russert’s recent death to lie about what he said in an interview with him?

    Really?

  • McCain campaign platform short: You don’t need a roof over your head. Your children don’t need adequate medical care, or shoes for their feet, or a winter coat, or food in their tummies. Just send all of your money to me at JOHN McLIE DOT COM, and everything will be perfect. Trust me.

    Can we just drag these ENEMIES OF THE REPUBLIC into the street and horsewhip them with barbed wire now? Please?!?

  • I sincerely believe the GOP is going to pull out all stops to control every aspect of each public candidate debate.

    If McCain is already lying about these things to the corporate media (who have consistently tried to shield his lying, contradictions and many other mishaps from their viewers), imagine what would happen if he tried to pull this in a debate, only to have Obama call him on it?

    He’ll look like a fool – and sink any chance of them fixing a close election (because it won’t be close; McCain would get routed).

    I can only hope the Obama campaign is taking notes and stays firm on an open debate format, and not give in to any GOP or corporate media demands.

  • I wonder if John McCain was subjected to Chinese torture tactics designed to get false confessions. If so, maybe his ability to understand truth was diminished or changed. When he campaigns, he’s talking to his “captors” and wants to tell them what they want to hear and it’s important to believe what you say when you say it. The mental conflict that normally exists when two statements contradict each other is shutdown as a survival strategy.

  • Until now, McCain was trying to distance himself from Bush. But now he is trying to distance himself from – umm – McCan.

  • McCain is still living in a pre-Daily Show, pre-Colbert reality.

    They will play these clips til he’s an even bigger laughingstock than he is now.

  • “Why would McCain appear on national television and say something he knows to be false? Given his emphasis, especially lately, on honesty in the campaign, why take the risk by lying like this?”

    Because telling a lie over and over again works unless the liar is confronted each time he lies with the refuting evidence. And the adoring Washington Press Corps is hardly going to risk favored places on the campaign plane by confronting their God with the evidence of his lies.

    I think that’s why he takes the risk.

  • “Why would McCain appear on national television and say something he knows to be false? Given his emphasis, especially lately, on honesty in the campaign, why take the risk by lying like this?”

    Talk about a softball, CB. This one’s been hit out of the park by every commenter.

    Because he can get away with it. Nobody will call him on it. This guy’s a war hero. Don’t you get it? Didn’t you see what they did to Wes Clark? Hell, even Obama “cut his legs off,” as Buchanan smirked last night.

    You don’t besmirch that war hero, straight talking maverick, all American John McCain.

  • The three quotes you provide are consistent with McCain’s image of himself.

    Begin with the premise that McCain is indeed an expert on the economy.

    I’ll pause here for laughter.

    Okay, now McCain thinks he’s an expert, but he recognizes he should understand it better. He didn’t pay much attention in the past, meaning he does pay attention in the present. Further, as much of an expert as McCain is on the economy, he’s more of an expert on military and foreign policy, because everyone says he is.

    Personally, I don’t demand that the president be an expert in the economy. As long as the president doesn’t ignore actual experts, I’m happy.

  • “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” [Dec. 2007]

    Maybe someone from the media should put down their BBQ pork sandwich and ask McCain if he finished that book, and ask what his opinion of it is.

  • McCain can lie at will because he knows there are no consequences…no one will call him on it and if they did he just asks them “do you think I’d lie about lying to you?”. He also knows that only a handful will ever see a redaction or correction unless it is done right then.
    Notice how the interviewer just went on and covered for him.

    McCain says he is strongest on National security issues because of all the time he has spent in the military???? How does that equate. It’s like saying I’m strongest on Homeland security because of all the time I spent in prison.

    This is what is really important here. His implication and reinforcing that military service makes him “better qualified” (as he said above) to be president. It accomplishes two things. 1)the obvious…that military service makes him more qualified than Obama and 2)You can not talk about his military service without it being considered an attack.

    Notice how quick he was to get that in there as if rehearsed..”…I said I’m stronger on National security issues BECAUSE of all the time I spent in the military( which cannot be spoken of by a democrat)…that’s why I’m better qualified than my opponent”

    Military service
    hero
    ??
    ??
    president

    I wouldn’t want to even be neighbors with this guy.

  • One thing about conservatives and Republicans, they absorb lies and shape shift them into the truth. That’s what’s happening here. Before long it will be accepted by Republican supporters that John McCain never made those comments. I turned on a very conservative talk radio station here in Chicago a while back and the host was oddly and smugly asserting that the war in Iraq was “going exactly as planned” and everything was great. Caller after caller began repeating the phrase “going exactly as planned.”

    Jobless rates up, auto sales plunged, more bad econimc news. People are really hurting. I don’t think McCain has the luxury right now to bet that anymore than the fringe will emrace his lies. His admissions aren’t out in the ether. He’s on tape saying them. In the deplorable economic state we’re in right now, not many people will take kindly to, or find confidence in, a man who admits his ignorance on the ecomony they cravely lies about his own words. This might not be a big scandal for him, but when people see their neighbor’s house foreclosed on, wonder if their job will still be there by the end of the year, and see gas prices spiraling higher, they will be paying attention to what these candidates are bringing to the table.

  • from Driftglass.com:…”…John McCain wants to make this election about National Security so fucking badly that in his interview in Fortune Magazine (“Conspicuous Consumption Porn for those wealthy enough to buy hookers for their hookers.”) when asked about the “gravest threat to our economy” he didn’t talk about energy, trade, anything.

    Said it’s Islamo-terrorism…”

    That is how much McCain understands the economy…it’s only necessary to support his war.

  • More debates please. He could probably contradict himself in the same sentence given the right questions. Or maybe lose his temper the way Jack Nicholson’s character did in the movie “A Few Good Men”.

  • At some point aren’t the media types oging to take it personally that he so transparently plays them for fools? I know they never did with Bush until it was far too late, but at least on any issue but his military service, where he makes everyone but Clark, Webb and the other vets feel guilty and inadequate, I still hold out hope.

    And of course if McCain were ever required to actually answer a cubstantive question on the economy, he’d remove all doubt.

  • It is my opinion that a lie is the conscious support, either overt or covert, of what one believes to be false. I’m not convinced McCain is lucid enough to qualify. I can not say the same for the MSM. I would love to hear Obama say…

    “Like many better informed citizens, I don’t know what to make of my opponent’s persistent and prolific policy reversals; whether these instances are deliberate attempts to pander or genuine lapses in memory. But what I do know is that if you want to remain informed in this campaign, you must find alternative sources of information from the ‘liberal media’ because those folks are deliberately sabotaging my message to voters.”

  • He (McCain) knows what he’s admitted […] — CB

    Are you sure? His short term memory seems to be in a dreadful state recently.

    Alternatively, he was simply being characteristically modest (just as he is, when he never talks about his POW-times), when he said he didn’t know as much about economy as he should and didn’t expect anyone to take him at his word. Now that people have, he’s fighting back, in his straightforward way…

  • It’s issues like these that make me think Webb would be a good VP choice for Obama.

    Can you imagine the corporate media trying to go after him if he made comments just like Clark did?

    He’d probably chew their heads off and spit them at McCain.

  • Does anyone wonder why with all of the nick names given McCain, no one that I have seen has tagged him with a very true description of him as “INSANE McCain”?

  • McCain is still living in a pre-Daily Show, pre-Colbert reality.

    Bingo. And despite the Washington press corps’ powerful man-crush on McCain, this may still get traction for that very reason.

    Of course, having two related stories in the same news cycle (this one, and his denial of Thad Cochran’s account re 1987) tends to push it into the realm of narrative. I think McCain is going to keep doing it, can’t help doing it (mendacity? faulty memory? who cares?), and the issue is going to get a lot more traction as the campaign goes on.

  • Obama is no different he has flip-flop like a fish out of water just pick which puppet you want in office this time.

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