McCain supports overturning Roe

November 19, 2006

Guest Post by Michael J.W. Stickings

He’s been wishy-washy on abortion in the past, back in his media-friendly “maverick” days, but now that he’s running for president he’s turning into the social conservative he needs to be to have any hope of making it through the GOP primaries.

Yes, Sen. John McCain told ABC’s George Stephanolpoulos this morning that he would support the overturning of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court. His argument is federalism, or states’ rights, not pro-life absolutism, but his position is nonetheless the pro-life one. And that means taking rights away from women, or at least allowing the states to do so. That’s what the debate over Roe comes down to. And McCain’s now decisively on the wrong side of it.

Think Progress has the video and transcript. See also LG&M, MyDD, Preemptive Karma, and Majikthise.

McCain should have died under torture in Hanoi so he could be a Wonderful Hero with his name on a wall for the generations to forget.

  • McCain should have died under torture in Hanoi so he could be a Wonderful Hero with his name on a wall for the generations to forget.
    Comment by Tom Cleaver

    Yeah plus his sick wife would have gotten some compensation instead of getting dumped.

    Doesn’t it seem like McCain has picked a losing horse with his pursuit of the Religious Reich? He’s copying a Bush path that has been discredited. He’ll be running on a 2004 ticket in 2008. Hopefully.

  • And I support turning McCain over a chair and going to work with a stick. He’s trying to cozy up to the not-insane conservatives by making it about state’s rights. However, he still has that little habeus corpus problem that will make him noxious to the true conservatives.

    Doesn’t it seem like McCain has picked a losing horse with his pursuit of the Religious Reich?

    Amen! Oops, I mean yes.
    I’d take it a bit further and say it seems McCain has lost his fucking mind. Watch, next he’ll be saying he wants to coat the White House in a thick layer of marshmallow fluff and asking everyone to call him Sgt. Teapot. Deliver us from GOP freaks.

  • Y’know…this Mccain character has more flips to him than a week’s worth of pancakes at a McDonald’s—doesn’t he? I give him a year to realize that the “base” he’s playing to isn’t filling the theater—and he starts trying to entertain the reality-based crowd with his flippant wit.

    But it ain’t gonna happen, folks. this is going to be one of those “reunion episodes” on the Waltons—where only the ghosts say “g’night, Johnboy….”

  • Why should anyone be surprised by a flip-flop from a repubricat? This their typical style. BushCain will filp on some more before 2008.

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  • Well, I heard him say it and I thought it was very reasonable.

    Remember, South Dakotans rejected an absolute ban on abortion when given the chance. If abortion is given back to the states I suspect we will get reasonable regulation.

    Of course some people aren’t interested in reasonable regulation, which I can understand. But that doesn’t mean it’s not the right answer.

  • McCain is definitely slowing down mentally, while his ego and his desire for the top spot remain unchanged.

    He got slapped once before (’00) for being too “liberal”, so has now made an effort to remake himself into what he thinks will play better. Unfortunately, he’s missed not just the train but the whole railroad-boom era. The ideologically rabid “base” — anti gay marriage, anti abortion, anti stem cell research, anti global warming checks but pro torture and pro staying the course on Iraq — may be as vocal as it has been before but has *shrunk*. To the point where it would not be sufficient to get him past primaries, even if they forgave him his past “sins” (and I don’t think they’re ready to, yet). So he’s wasting his time trying to appease them.

    TAIO (@7), he’s changed course on that one too, vide Think Progress:
    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-iraq-troops-2/
    He’s like a bloody weathercock on *every* issue now.

    Lance (@8),
    “Remember, South Dakotans rejected an absolute ban on abortion when given the chance. If abortion is given back to the states I suspect we will get reasonable regulation.”

    If you think that allowing abortion *in extreme cases only* (ie rape, incest and death-threat to the mother) is fine-and- dandy, then I guess leaving the decision to individual states is OK. They’d adjust their laws to ban everything else but that. And, as soon as Roevs Wade is overturned and they won’t fear judicial interference, they will adjust some more and close *that* alley, also.

    To me, that’s not acceptable. I think abortion ought not to be used as a “contraceptive alternative” and I do think there should be *some* limits put on it (say, 3rd trimester abortion allowed only to save the mother’s life), but, if states were to make individual decisions on it, we’d have CA and Mass allowing *some* abortion and the rest of the country going back to accelerated production of metal coathangers. If congress-critters at the federal level are 60% (or more) idiots, the legislators on the state level are *worse*. And most of them are men — firmly believing that their seed is sacred and deserving of total protection.

  • I’m with you, Libra, re. Lance’s comment. Lance, I thought I knew ye. Have a look at the made for TV movie “If These Walls Could Talk.” From which came, “If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.

    Hey, why stop with leaving abortion to the states? How about leaving segregation to the states? Slavery? State religion? Leave too much to the states and we’d all be living next to (or, FSM help us, in) places that would make Iran look indulgent.

  • If you read the transcript, just prior to announcing that he favors overturning Roe for based on federalism principles, he admits that he’s in favor of a constitutional amendment banning abortion in most cases…

    unless he’s referring to a state const. amendment, that doesn’t square with his opposition to roe based on federalism…

  • I do think there should be *some* limits put on it (say, 3rd trimester abortion allowed only to save the mother’s life)

    Wish granted. I know of no state where you can cruise into a clinic at six+ months and get an abortion, just because. The procedure is far more difficult and dangerous and most places that provide first & second trimester abortions aren’t even equipped to do a 3rd trimester. That’s why I always thought the “partial birth” ban was stupid. The only way a doctor will perform one is if the woman’s life is in danger. So you either have to say: Tough shit, to the woman or leave it to the medical professional to make that determinaton.
    Hell, I think its bloody insulting to suggest a woman would carry for 6+ months and then say “Oopsie, I changed my mind!”

  • Change is a sign of growth – unless you are running for Prez and will say or agree to ANYTHING for votes. I did like McCain ages ago until he became a whore. Oh, I should rephrase since I have nothing against whores. He became a jackass!

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