McConnell says FISA discussion will lead to American deaths

Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell has managed to develop a fairly good reputation in DC, which is why it’s all the more curious he made comments like these to the El Paso Times.

Q: Even if it’s perception, how do you deal with that? You have to do public relations, I assume.

A: Well, one of the things you do is you talk to reporters. And you give them the facts the best you can. Now part of this is a classified world. The fact we’re doing it this way means that some Americans are going to die, because we do this mission unknown to the bad guys because they’re using a process that we can exploit and the more we talk about it, the more they will go with an alternative means and when they go to an alternative means, remember what I said, a significant portion of what we do, this is not just threats against the United States, this is war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Q. So you’re saying that the reporting and the debate in Congress means that some Americans are going to die?

A. That’s what I mean. Because we have made it so public. We used to do these things very differently, but for whatever reason, you know, it’s a democratic process and sunshine’s a good thing. We need to have the debate.

It’s hard to even know where to start with comments like these. To hear McConnell tell it, the very discussion of the administration’s surveillance powers will kill an untold number of Americans — but “sunshine’s a good thing.”

And why, pray tell, are Americans going to die as a result of a public debate about presidential power? Apparently, because the bad guys will get a vague sense of the kind of tactics we’ll use to intercept their communications. That might sound vaguely persuasive, but it doesn’t stand up well to scrutiny. Terrorists might figure out that the U.S. will tap phone lines? I think they knew that. Terrorists might figure out that we can monitor email and bank transactions? I think they knew that, too.

Indeed, what are these “alternate means” terrorists will use? Smoke signals? They’re going to stop using phones, computers, and banks?

McConnell went to lament cynicism.

A: The reason that the FISA law was passed in 1978 was an arrangement was worked out between the Congress and the administration, we did not want to allow this community to conduct surveillance, electronic surveillance, of Americans for foreign intelligence unless you had a warrant, so that was required. So there was no warrant required for a foreign target in a foreign land. And so we are trying to get back to what was the intention of ’78. Now because of the claim, counterclaim, mistrust, suspicion, the only way you could make any progress was to have this debate in an open way.

I’m sorry, but whining about a public debate over presidential power is rather offensive. McConnell seems to prefer that Congress secretly turn over secret powers to the president, while the public simply trusts, as a matter of faith, that the government will not abuse its sweeping powers.

Sorry, Mike, but your boss hasn’t exactly earned the benefit of the doubt.

For that matter, as Spencer Ackerman noted, for a guy who’s convinced that discussion of these issues will kill innocent Americans, McConnell had surprisingly loose lips during the interview.

The likelihood of them actually knowing [what procedures they can undertake to avoid detection from the NSA], however, from either the debate or the incredibly complex Protect America Act it produced, is incredibly low — not least of which because not a single NSA surveillance method was disclosed by either. In fact, in his interview with the paper, McConnell gave more details — the effort isn’t “massive data-mining,” or that it takes 200 man-hours to prepare a FISA-warrant request, for instance — about the program’s operation than did the entire Congressional debate.

For all his alleged stature, McConnell came across as a bit of a nut in this interview. As for coverage of his comments, the media seems to have largely overlooked the fact that the DNI believes the FISA debate will itself lead to U.S. deaths, which, given the severity of the demagoguery, should be fairly big news.

Nuts are no longer news.

  • “…given the severity of the demagoguery, should be fairly big news.”

    What part of IOKIYAR don’t you understand?

    And besides, in the end, it’s Clinton’s fault.

  • Obviously, we are now at a stage in the Global War On a Psychological State (GWOPS) or the Global War On a Nefarious Tactic (GWONT) where we need a closed society to be able to preserve the American Way of Life.

    It is George W. Bush’s job to worry about these things folks; it is your job to “go about your business.”

    The important thing to remember is that we are all protected by the Global War On Everything™. You wouldn’t want anything harming you, would you? If we don’t stay on the offense in this Global War On Everything™, something is bound to harm us.

    Civil liberties are the “delicate sensibilities” of terrorists. Political dissent/discourse/debate are the hallmark of a traitor. Don’t you see that we need authoritarianism just to survive in this New World Order?

  • Maybe the next president can hire government officials who actually like democracy. I find it “funny” that Republicans like to call those who disagree with them America-haters, when it is actually guys like this who actually seem to hate American and all that America stands for (at least when it is in their way).

    For a guy who is Director of National Intelligence he sure is lacking in intelligence. But considering his boss that is no real surprise.

  • Jkap, surely there are some exceptions to the GWOE allowed by the administration. Harmful food and products from China perhaps? Or harmful US food products due to reduced inspections?

  • Submit or die.

    Well, I definitely am willing to take the chance. Living in what this country is becoming really isn’t worth much.

  • if terrorists do stop using phones, email, and banks because of their knowledge of potential supervision, chalk that up as a victory. The definition of defeat in this type of conflict is at least in part, that the enemy cannot operate. Even if we don’t succeed in rounding them all up and dropping them off at Guantanomo, we would have a strategic victory for the long term if we denied Al-Qaeda the very thing that makes it a global threat, that is, its global reach through networked communications and financing. That leaves them as a bunch of crazy people in caves, which is where they started before the US and Pakistan started supporting them.

  • “…given the severity of the demagoguery, should be fairly big news”?

    I think you’ve got our press mixed up with one that doesn’t work for the warmongers.

    If demagoguery is ever “news”, it’s always in the form of reporters repeating demagoguery.

  • Is this about Putting Americans in Danger From Scary, Scary Terrorists, or is it about an excuse to bash Democrats? No matter what they do, this administration will find a way to paint them as terrorist-loving traitors. So even if they rolled over for Bush’s demands for warrantless wiretapping powers, they were endangering Americans by even daring to discuss it. Even having the presumptuous gall to act as though there were something to discuss!

    Read the cover story in this week’s New Republic. It’s a devastating critique of how this administration manipulates psychological responses to fear of death. They may be the Mayberry Machiavellis, but even if they can’t govern or run a war, they do know how to jerk us around.

  • Out:

    If I tell you, I’ll have to kill you.

    In:

    If I tell you, they’ll get to kill you.

    As for tapping e-mail and phone calls, they make it sound so easy, but it ain’t. And if they haven’t solved that qualified translator problem then it becomes even more pointless. Thing is, these are all things the bad guys know. Remember last year when two schmoes were picked up with a lot of cell phones or SIM cards in their van and people leaped through their arseholes because it was clearly part some sort of terrorist plot?

    Well, it wasn’t but black market cell phones are just one way that bad guys (of all calibers) can baffle anyone who listens in. BushCo wants people to think they can just stick an antenna in the air and start listening to communications. They can’t. And I wonder if at the end of the day that’s what this is all about. They don’t want us to know how little they can do to stop a determined killer and conversely, how easy it is to listen into regular phone conversations.

  • Does someone need to tell him that starting wars (based on lies) with countries that haven’t attacked us is also a way to get our people killed ?

  • How is it that you know the capacity and “alternatives” available to the bad guys? Do you think maybe McConnell might just know a few things you don’t? Ya’ think! It never ceases to amaze me how miopic idiots like you how access everything from a very narrow, domestic “vantage” point. You one of those people that who lives in a theoretical world that is going to be absolutely stunned when you are no longer the “third” person. What’s really sad is your kind of crap plays to the lowest common denominator among us–and that is harmful.

  • the problem that McConnell is talking about is not wot most people think it is
    the problem is that this is one of the types of discussion in Congress that excite terrorists into attacking are troops

    same thing gos for one congress talks about withdrawing Ar troops
    have you notested every time congress talks about withdrawing Ar troops there is a sudden increase in insurgent activity in both Iraq and Afghanistan

    discussions like the FISA tend to be a double egad sword
    in a time of war no mater the decision it will affect are citizens and/or Ar troops negatively
    and remember are enemy’s do watch are news reports

    lose lips still sink ships

  • There is an old saying, to the effect that, “The tree of Freedom is watered with the blood of Patriots.” I don’t recall the exact wording. One of the meanings to this phrase, is that a free state is not necessarily a safe state. The current administration argues that we should allow our freedoms to be infringed in the hope of being better protected. I think that this is a flawed argument. I’d rather take more risk, and experience less infringement.

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