Michael J. Fox ‘is being taken to account’

There are plenty of fascinating angles to Rush Limbaugh’s attack on Michael J. Fox this week, but the media’s coverage of the story. I had hoped reporters would hold up Limbaugh’s repugnant accusations as an example of right-wing discourse gone horribly awry. It clearly hasn’t happened.

Literally within 24 hours of the on-air remarks, for example, the WaPo published an article characterizing Limbaugh’s “questions” about Fox and his integrity as potentially accurate and entirely fair. Similarly, the same day, CNN’s The Situation Room featured a report on Limbaugh with text at the bottom of the screen that reinforced Limbaugh’s message: “Fox ads in good or bad taste?” CNN national correspondent John King said, “I think we should take Rush at his word. He has issued this apology,” despite the fact that Limbaugh had actually told his listeners, “I stand by what I said. I take back none of what I said.”

But I’d nominate NBC’s Matt Lauer for the worst of all possible coverage, because it was Lauer who suggested that Limbaugh was “just say[ing] what a lot of people were privately thinking.” From Lauer’s chat yesterday with far-right talk-show host Laura Ingraham:

LAUER: Let me just ask you: You know, Rush Limbaugh started a lot of controversy when he said perhaps Michael J. Fox was exaggerating or faking these effects of Parkinson’s disease in that ad promoting stem cell research. Didn’t Rush Limbaugh just say what a lot of people were privately thinking?

INGRAHAM: Well, Michael J. Fox himself, I think, had written that when he testified before Congress, he decided to go off his medication. But this is not about Limbaugh, it’s not about Fox. It’s about an amendment that claims to ban cloning, Matt, and instead it constitutionalizes the right to clone for the destruction of those embryos that are in the lab. That’s the fact. It’s not about Limbaugh, and the media loves to make it about Limbaugh and Fox. That’s not what it’s about.

LAUER: But also, Susan, last word. If Michael Fox goes out there politically and puts himself in the fray, he has to expect to be, you know, taken to account, correct?

ESTRICH: Correct. And he is being taken to account.

As Bradford Plumer put it, “Fox should be ‘taken to account’? For suffering from Parkinson’s?”

If the right wanted to respond to Fox’s ad by talking about stem-cell policy, that would be taking on Fox. No one’s suggesting that the ad is above reproach — if someone wants to say that Fox is wrong, fine. If a critic wants to raise questions about the policy, fine. It’s a controversial subject; let’s debate it.

But this was a personal smear against someone with Parkinson’s. Limbaugh accused Fox of fraud, and insisted the effects of a debilitating disease may have been exaggerated for effect. Lauer not only tried to help justify the offensive comments, he reinforced them, and then effectively argued that Fox deserved all of this. Why? Because he dared to ask voters to support candidates who share his hope for live-saving medical treatments.

Plumer added:

What is wrong with these people? Lauer knows “a lot of” people who are “privately thinking” the same thing as Rush? Really? Anyone besides his friends? Last night, his former co-anchor Katie Couric jumped in and badgered Fox in person on the question of whether he was being dishonest about taking his medication (because she had heard it on good authority from Limbaugh that that was the case). Fox responded: “At this point now, if I didn’t take medication I wouldn’t be able to speak.” Sorry, Michael, we’re going to have to take you to account for that, too.

The problem, once again, is a bizarre media standard. Josh Marshall marveled “at the moral chokehold the big right wing media players have over the mainstream media.”

This character goes on the radio and cracks jokes about a man suffering from Parkinsons disease. Says he’s faking his symptoms. Playing for the camera. It’s right up there with your better jokes about, say, breast cancer or other knee-slappers like pediatric oncology.

In any other context this would be treated as a fatal breach of decency and taste. But he gets respectful coverage in papers like the Post (at least till someone there got wise and yanked the story). And in general the whole imbroglio is treated as Fox and his supposed symptoms and the Limbaugh backlash. And also, hey, Limbaugh said he was sorry for making fun of Fox’s condition and now only says he’s shamelessly exploiting his medical condition.

All the big names are afraid of him. He’ll probably be back on Meet the Press before the end of the year.

The mind reels.

Has NBC become Kool Aid central?

  • I hope Michael J. Fox was made aware of what he was putting himself into. It’s far from the first time. Question the patriotism of amputee war veterans. Question the suffering of Parkinson’s victims.

    Now we’re a country that both legitimizes torture, and belittles those suffering from debilitating diseases. These are ugly, sad times.

    At long last, have we left no sense of decency?

  • I’m like the fly in the Kafka story. Every time I think I’ve shaken off my outrage, they dump another nasty load on me.

  • Instead of stem cell research, what if the debate were about land mines? What if the Christian Coalition badgered the administration about the immorality of using land mines as they cause too much collateral damage to innocent people. Do you think they would get their way? Or would they be derided with “why are you taking away one of key weapons away in the fight against an enemy?”

    If someone thinks that banning land mines is short sighted and ludicrous, they should also feel the same about stem cell research.

  • This is where I’m supposed to put something snarky, but I thought I’d step out of character and comment on the Couric interview.

    First of all, I can’t stand her. But as I was flicking through the stations I caught this interview, stopped, and watched it. Both the initial segment, and the additional excerpts they stuck on the end. It was the best thing I’ve ever seen from Couric.

    For a start they did something that I wish the MSN would do more often, skip the sound bite and let the cameras roll uninterupted for a few minutes.

    I also was initially a little annoyed at what seemed to be badgering. But then I noticed that Fox was hitting every question out of the Park. Every last one of them. Couric was doing him a favor. She knew that he was more than capable of handling them all, and most of them were not fat, down the middle of the plate slow balls, but rather high heaters.

    So, to sum up, your capsule characterization is wrong. Often are, but then so are everyone elses. If not about this particular episode, then something else. Which is why I hope that everybody questions not just the MSM, but forums like this as well.

    Okay, back to snarksville…

  • Whoops, okay I see that you were not the one who characterized the Couric interview as ‘badgering’. Sorry.

  • I can only thnk of the tagline to Dawn of the Dead:

    “When there’s no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth….
    And take over the conservative movement”

    Okay, I ad-libbed the last line…

    There’s no real argument here, these people are evil, and will do whatever it takes to maintain power.

  • The SCLM strikes again…..

    Remember the SCLM outrage when Kerry had the audactiy to mention that Dick Cheney daughter was *gasp* a lesbian….you would think he called for her death they way the media played it…they savaged Kerry for being “out of bounds” even though she was an openly gay woman working for Coors in their Gay Outreach program…

    and now we have Rush disparging a person suffering from a debilatating disease and the media thinks its a legimate way to debate the issue even trying to put MJF on the defensive on whether or not he took his medication???!!!???

    Here are some of the tamer responses to the Kerry “incident”

    Adam Nagourney of The New York Times summed up the feelings of many when he wrote, “……some voters perceived Mr. Kerry’s remark [that Mary Cheney is a lesbian] as an invasion of Ms. Cheney’s privacy, a gratuitous personal insult, or a crass political calculation by which Mr. Kerry was trying to drive a wedge between Mr. Cheney and conservatives unaware that his daughter was gay.”

    Then there is this from Media Matters which blows my mind

    The media has devoted enormous coverage to Senator John Kerry’s reference to Mary Cheney, Vice President Dick Cheney’s daughter, as a lesbian during the October 13 presidential debate. Yet President George W. Bush’s false claim from that same debate — “I just don’t think I ever said I’m not worried about Osama bin Laden” — has received less than half as much media attention. (Bush’s debate claim is false because he said of bin Laden on March 13, 2002: “I’m truly not that concerned about him.”)
    A Nexis search by Media Matters for America for coverage of Kerry’s remark produced 364 hits. A Nexis search for coverage of Bush’s claim produced only 135 hits.

    Like I said the SCLM strikes again

  • And God Forbid the blogs dare to step in and point out these moral outrages. If we do, we get called “blogs are making political hay out of this” or “the blogosphere is up in arms”.

    An actual conversation about bio-ethics? Not in our lifetime…

  • I don’t have Parkinson’s, but I do have HIV–still healthy 16 years after diagnosis, thanks to my meds, knock wood. While this is not in quite the same league as calling HIV/AIDS god’s retribution on gay people, it’s not far off.

    As with most things religious, it’s only a matter of degree. I don’t think anyone really doubts that we’d be going through something like Margaret Atwood’s “The Handmaid’s Tale”, or suffering similar violence and repression under the American xtian-taliban wanna-be crowd were it not for that little matter of degree. Frankly, unless more people in this country wake up, I don’t think we’re that far away from it.

    (BTW, for anyone wondering, hubby is still neg after almost 15 years together–we’re what’s called a ‘sero-discordant’ couple.)

    Michael W.

  • Here’s my e-mail to the Today Show:

    Michael J. Fox does not deserve to be “taken to account.”

    Matt Lauer, you are not a journalist when you parrot right wingnut talking points. Rush Limbaugh is totally out of line when he waved his arms and said Michael J. Fox was faking it in Fox’s ad that supports Democratic candidates who favor stem cell research. If people think privately that Mr. Fox was faking it, as you claim in such a dumb observation, then God help us all. I hope Americans are not that stupid, but then again they elected George Bush to a second term.

  • More proof the Right Wanks are imploding. Sensible people would run away from this fiasco, rather than defend a nasty piece of work like Limpbag. Guess they can’t pass on a chance to make fun of the terminally ill. But let them talk, as I’ve said before, it’s like a Klan rally where everyone’s forgotten to don their sheets. Many people will remember this crap long after the Lauer, Ingram, Limpbag have forgotten what they said (sometime next week).

    Well, Michael J. Fox himself, I think, had written that when he testified before Congress, he decided to go off his medication.

    I think Laura Ingram herself said that she frequently engages in sex acts with ponies. Does that make it true? I hope not. For the ponies’ sake.

    I’d like to tie all of the “save the embryo” cretins to a train track and ask the following question:
    Given that you are so worried about the destruction of embryos, should fertility clinics, which regularly destroy embryos be forced to shut down?

    People that couldn’t give a straight Yes or No answer would catch the 5.15.

  • There really shouldn’t be any doubt that Lauer is a Limbaugh listener. Because that’s what they all say, that Limbaugh’s just saying outloud what everyone’s thinking. Yet somehow, the “everyone” is just Limbaugh’s listeners, and they never really do say this stuff until Limbaugh says it, and that somehow makes it ok.

    As for the Lauer person above defending Couric, he’s entirely missing the point. The point isn’t whether Fox could handle the questions, but whether she was getting the framework of this right, which she wasn’t. Fox wasn’t the one who needed to defend himself. Limbaugh was. Fox did nothing wrong. Limbaugh did. Fox shouldn’t have to explain that he wasn’t deceiving people. Instead, it was Limbaugh who should be explaining why he was deceiving people. That should have been the framework for this, and it doesn’t matter if Fox was able to handle himself and give good answers. What matters is what the questions being asked are, and we shouldn’t need to rely on intelligent responders every time blowhards like Limbaugh invent attacks against people.

    That’s part of the problem with modern politics: That the news media relies on Dems to be just as tenacious as the Republicans, and assumes that we’re wrong every time we don’t fight back. I’m all for fighting back, but the media shouldn’t require us to when the other side is deceiving people. Particularly as they also attack us every time we fight back.

  • I saw the interview with M.J. Fox and Couric and despite the phony attempts to provide “balance” by, in effect, accusing Fox of “going off his medication”, as if any responsible person with a terminal illness such as Parkinson’s Disease would ever do such a thing for any reason, I would say that both he and she were exemplary. This interview is a must-see for anyone following this debate. On balance it seemed that Fox himself gave way too much credit to the moral cretins like Limbaugh and his dopey dittoheads who maligned his character and intent. One of Michael’s best points was the fact that disease is non-partisan yet his attempts to advocate on behalf of pure science are labled “partisan”. Just who the fuck forced the issue of stem cell research into the political arena in the first place!? The Left?? The Democrats?? No! It was disingenuous assholes like Limbaugh and the rightwing douchebags in Congress, that’s who!

    Cretins like Limbaugh and Coulter have a new untenable argument to offer to justify their bad taste and moral flabbiness: the fact that the Left “uses” victims of crime or illness to establish our “infallibility”. Our credibility can’t be “impeached” because Kristen Breitweiser or Michael J. Fox has the temerity to publicly espouse values we hold as self-evident. The beautiful irony here is that it isn’t the Left that is unimpeachable but rather it is the truth spoken by the Left that is unimpeachable. And as we’ve seen during this campaign season and during this misbegotten Bush administration that it is the right wing that has a HUGE problem with truth. That is to say both telling it and hearing it.

    And I am sick and fucking tired of these assholes.

  • The Bushites would happily have us wrapped up in talking about Fox’s ad instead of paying attention to the fact that Iraq is continuing to unravel and the President is frankly delusional. They know that the flacks in the media love nothing more than an emotional controversy story, so they dangle the red meat and the ravenous dogs bite. Is it any wonder that Keith Olbermann is the only place on TV that’s mentioned the ad Fox did for Specter last round?

    Acknowledging that the only story here is that Rush, et al. are hypocritical, partisan slimebuckets (which isn’t exactly news) wouldn’t allow them to fill air time, and they might have to cover something hard, like why the President sounds like he’s mentally ill.

  • These are callous times. Where’s the so-called “liberal media” when you need them? Those who show no compassion for those with debilitating diseases such as Michael J. Fox’s Parkinsons disease are pathetic individuals and definitely not members of decent human(e) society nor to be characterized as “liberal media” who would show compassion for others that Jesus and other Biblical religious leaders preached.

    Shame on the real Matt Lauer, Rush Limbaugh, and their media colleagues who perpetuate these callous times with ill-found innuendo.

  • “CNN national correspondent John King said, “I think we should take Rush at his word. He has issued this apology,” despite the fact that Limbaugh had actually told his listeners, “I stand by what I said. I take back none of what I said.””

    Who the fuck is John King to say, “I think we should take Rush Limbaugh at his word”? Who the fuck at CNN thinks it’s the business of CNN to repeat and launder like dirty money lies and bullshit from hyper-partisan assholes who insult people with Parkinson’s disease?

    Someday, if and when John King (or Matt Lauer, or anyone else who’s said they don’t see a problem here) ever has any kind of unfortunate medical situation occur to himself or his family, I hope nobody plays this callous line of crap back to him, because that might really hurt.

    Stupid insensitive fucking assholes.

  • Michael J Fox ran an as supporting Arlen Specter in 2004 because he was pro-Bio Med research. Where was Rush “Pass me my Viagra, Oxyconton and that Dominican girl” Limbaugh decrying Fox when he spoke in support of a Republican? Maybe he was balls deep in a underaged prostitute and failed to notice.

    The MSM has really gone around the twist.
    N.B.C.
    Neo-con Broadcasting Network?
    Never Bad-mouth Conservatives?
    National Bush Cheney Network?
    No Brains Chumps?

    What else?

  • There was a great comment from (I believe) a spokesman for a disabled association on this – he said that when Michael J Fox is acting in the small amounts that he does these days they have to work around his shaking – and when it calms down to the point where they can film, they do it. His point was – when Michael J Fox is controlling his tremors, that’s when he’s acting.

  • #14,

    More proof the Right Wanks are imploding. Sensible people would run away from this fiasco, rather than defend a nasty piece of work like Limpbag. Guess they can’t pass on a chance to make fun of the terminally ill. But let them talk, as I’ve said before, it’s like a Klan rally where everyone’s forgotten to don their sheets. Many people will remember this crap long after the Lauer, Ingram, Limpbag have forgotten what they said (sometime next week).

    I don’t think the right-wing is imploding and falling apart. You’re seeing the new Republican battle plan in action. Attack, attack, attack in the hope that it muddies the waters enough so the conservative and “independent” mouthbreathers who do show up on election day vote Republican. Voter turnout is so poor these days that if you can cast doubt in the minds of a few voters you can swing elections.

    And if the Dems do regain Congress, attack, attack, attack so they can’t get a damn thing done and their legitimacy is questioned. There’s the election in ’08, ’10, and ’12 to think about.

    And your average media consumer has the attention span and memory of a gnat. Who’s going to remember Limbaugh made fun of a terminally ill guy if no one reminds them? More importantly, who’s going to think Limbaugh’s behavior is socially unacceptable if everyone thinks it’s a “fair” assessment of Fox? No, the only thing Lauer and Couric are doing is putting a veneer of acceptablity on this repulsive bullshit.

  • Now look, people. Parkinson’s or no Parkinson’s, Fox still has two working eyes. If he had just taken the time to look in a mirror he would have realized he no longer qualifies for membership in the Master Race. Only the white, the pretty, and the fit* can be members of the Master Race.

    But noooooo. He’d rather go on television and selfishly ask people to support research that might cure him. Puh-leeze! Like it’s all about him. Typical Hollywood Liberal Elitist.

    _________
    *I know — Rush Limbaugh is hardly one of the fit. But he gets special dispensation because he was fed donuts and ham by Baby Jesus personally. Okay? Now quit your carping.

  • Our complaints not withstanding, there appears to be a bright spot scheduled for the boob tube tonight – Letterman interviews Bill O.

    “Let me ask you a question – was there more heinous, more dangerous violence taking place [before America invaded] Iraq, or is there more heinous, dangerous violence taking place now in Iraq?”

    “Oh, stop it,” O’Reilly scolds the host. “Saddam Hussein slaughtered 300,000 to 400,000 people, all right, so knock it off . . . It isn’t so black and white, Dave – it isn’t, ‘We’re a bad country. Bush is an evil liar.’ That’s not true.”

    “I didn’t say he was an evil liar,” Letterman shoots back. “You’re putting words in my mouth, just the way you put artificial facts in your head!”

    The NYPost has a transcript preview: http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

  • During a Democratic phone banking effort last night, I spoke to an independent voter who said Rush Limbaugh and by association all Republicans were the most disgusting human beings she had ever come across. She said that she and her husband would vote for no one in any race who supported Bush or his policies in any way. This was a CT voter.
    So I think Rush could well have created a backlash against his party, I think it puts their twistedness in in a bright national spot light and it makes good TV (negative TV) and is easy to understand.

  • Let’s recall who owns what:

    ABC is owned by the far-right Walt Disney Corporation, long time supporters (like forever) of the far Republican right.

    NBC is owned by General Electric, which makes bazillions of dollars from the defense industry that’s doing so well right now, and (according to several recent articles here in LA about their view of NBC) sees the network as a drag on their overall profits that needs to “get right with things.” Since “big numbers” come from right wing media (not right, but don’t tell the suits they’re using last year’s numbers), it’s time to straighten things out.

    CBS: Katie Couric – “Navy Seals ROCK!!!!” As memorialized in Fahrenheit 9/11. Need anything more be said?

    As for Fox, well, we know all we need to know there.

    As for the Cretin News Network, what more needs be said?

    As for the Washington Post, Nixon’s ghost loves them. With current management, they’d never have broken Watergate.

    Come January 21, 2007: the Fairness Doctrine becomes an “item of issue.” It has to. Also the 1996 Telecommunications Act regarding corporate ownership of media. The Democrats will need their feet held to the fire on this, but if they don’t “get it” they’re certainly going to Get It in 2008 – when they lose again. Anyone who thinks Limpdick et al are going to fold their tents, slime their way back into Okeefenokee and hide under rocks is suffering from Cranial-Rectal Adhesion Syndrome. They’re only going to be beaten when their heads are turned into watermelons meeting baseball bats.

  • @ #20

    Nutless Brain-dead Cowards?

    Who’s going to remember Limbaugh made fun of a terminally ill guy if no one reminds them?

    For starters: Everyone who has or knows someone who suffers from Parkinson’s and other degenerative diseases. That’s what I meant about treating Limpbag like he’s a bucket of plutonium topped by a vial of small pox. Some one who hears crap like that and then goes to visit grand-dad in the nursing home is going to get and stay mad.

  • beep52–
    I love this one, from Letterman, especially when once remembers the cover of the book:

    Letterman admits he hasn’t read O’Reilly’s new book, “Culture War,” because “I looked at it. I said, ‘What is it, a book on sailing?’

    Water >>>>>> Monitor.

  • Lets be clear about this and call the right wing attack for what it is.

    Fox (and others with medical conditions that could be cured or prevented by means held up on fundamentalist christian grounds) need to put out a “sequel” to the Dixie Chicks’ “Shut Up and Sing.” Because the Limbaugh/MSM view of those in the situation Fox is in is that they should just “Shut Up and Die.” Sorry, those suffering medical conditions, you no longer have a place in our debate. Defend yourself? Please. You just want our precisou tax dollars. Just go hide in some warehouse and don’t bother us.

    Again I say: I am going to start believing in hell just to enjoy the idea of these absolutely inhuman pricks on the right rotting there.

  • Dear Mr Lauer:

    I don’t know what you and your friends are privately thinking, but my father died of Parkinson’s disease. As far as I am concerned your remark is more than uncalled for or unfortunate, it is unforgivable. You have displayed a shallowness and arrogance that is a blot on your career. There are many people who will never forget your cruel remark, and I am one of them

    My Father was a brilliant man, an attorney, a political junkie, and an avid sports fan. He had a mind like a steel trap, as quick and sharp as anyone I have ever known. How he got this terrible disease is unknown, but he did get it. He kept working as long as he was able, into his seventies, but eventually he had to take stronger and stronger medication.

    Medication keeps the patient from freezing and being paralized, but it does not stop the slow deterioration of the brain. There are differnt forms of Parkinsons Didease and uncontroled movements such as Fox is displaying are not unusual. My father suffered from halucinations and often saw things that were not there. He usually saw pleasant things like small children and friendly animals, but he could often see snakes and large insects in his bed. He lost control of his bladder and eventually his bowels, and my mother worked herself into exaustion taking care of him.

    My father never forgot who he was or how much he loved his family. My mother spent their life savings taking care of him at home for the last few years of his life so he wouldn’t die alone in a nursing hospital. If there is a cure for this terrible disease, and it can be found in stem cell research, how dare you or Rush or anyone else who has not personally known the devastation fo this disease question the motives of Michael J Fox? The better question is why did our president go against the will of the people and the Congress and use his veto for the first time to make our lives more difficult and add to the toll of human suffering?

  • “Alchoholism is the only disease you can have that people will get mad at you for having.” – Mitch Hedberg

    How quickly things change.

  • One thing that has to be appreciated is Fox’s courage. He said that he wants peeple to talk about stem cell research and if he has to take the hit for that to happen it is okay by him. That is incredible courage and makes Limabaugh look even smaller than ever.

  • For starters: Everyone who has or knows someone who suffers from Parkinson’s and other degenerative diseases. That’s what I meant about treating Limpbag like he’s a bucket of plutonium topped by a vial of small pox. Some one who hears crap like that and then goes to visit grand-dad in the nursing home is going to get and stay mad.

    I agree with you a bit. But for every person that gets pissed, there are two more on the right who think Limbaugh was above board even though they’re in the same situation and another one or two more who will forget the whole thing once the next pretty white woman goes missing.

    The attacks on Fox just about take the cake, but this is hardly the first time right-wingers have uttered something vile and morally repugnant –Coulter’s crack about the 9/11 widows comes to mind. They get away with it every single time. I don’t know what that says about the country — whether we’ve lost the ability to be outraged or the ability to be decent.

  • Give Lauer a break, he’s just celebrating National Make Fun of the Handicapped Week. As you’ll recall, Tom Lehrer told us about it on NBC back in ’64 (TWTWTW). They’ve just brought it back. You’re going to take Lauer and NBC to account for that?

  • Nice link 2Manchu. One question, though. Aren’t we all former embryos?

    I’m sure Fox knew what to expect. Given the divided nature of country these days and the politicization of science, he had to expect a backlash.

    Unfortunately, we can count the number of real news journalists on one hand these days. What a shame.

    Rambuncle, Mitch was awesome, may he RIP.

  • Diane Rehm, on her show this morning, nearly lost it — twice — when the conversation turned to Limbaugh’s treatment of Michael Fox. She recounted sitting near Michael at a charity function some time back and said his movements were exactly those shown in the video.

    The great thing is the extent of the backfire this attack on Fox is getting. From “dunking” to Mehlman’s anti-Ford commercial to Limbaugh on MJF, the Republicans are looking desperate and completely repulsive morally.

    Rush’s ratings have been in decline for some time. This incident may do some real harm to his show.

  • As Randi Rhodes said the other day, “The only thing Republicans have to sell these days are fear and hatred.”

  • If Christopher Reeve were alive, and did such a commercial, would Rush be huffing and puffing “Oooh, I can’t breathe, help me, help me” — making fun of Reeve, as well?

    Why is it that so many bullies grow up to be well-known Republicans? And only the cowardly bullies — just the ones who never “pick on someone their own size” and who like to get other people killed in wars.

  • LAUER: Let me just ask you: You know, Rush Limbaugh started a lot of controversy when he said perhaps Michael J. Fox was exaggerating or faking these effects of Parkinson’s disease in that ad promoting stem cell research. Didn’t Rush Limbaugh just say what a lot of people were privately thinking?

    So, Matt, that makes what Limbaugh said acceptable? It sure sounds like that is what you’re implying! But what journalistic genius! Think about how this changes how we view history. Just substitute “Adolf Hitler” for “Rush Limbaugh”, and we can now realize how acceptable “Mein Kampf” and Nazi hate speech was. Or Alabama Gov. George Wallace during his efforts to block the integration of the University of Alabama. Or the public school administrator who informed the Ryan White family that Ryan White would not be allowed to attend local public schools because of his AIDS. Matt, hateful speech and the actions that follow them are just simply wrong whether they abuse, defame, or target someone because of racial, ethnic, religious, gender, political, or disability reasons. Before you object to the comparison to Hitler, let me remind you that Rush Limbaugh’s general purpose as a rightwing demagogue is the same as Hitler’s was: to incite people.

    Matt, if you have any drop of journalistic integrity within you, you wouldn’t depend on talking (air)heads that are rightwing ideologues (Ingraham) or panderers (Estrich) to discuss this issue. Instead you would be discussing Limbaugh’s comments with medical professionals experienced in dealing with Parkinson’s Syndrome, family members who must interact with the disease of a loved one, and most importantly persons with Parkinson’s Syndrome. That would be journalism. But I guess that’s too much to ask of a highly paid journalism professional. Or maybe not. Maybe you’ll take me up on the challenge.

    In the meantime, I’m sure you’ll dismiss this as just another “snarky” comment. And I’ll continue to view it as an angry surviving son of a man who was ravaged by Parkinson’s from its early tremors to dementia (the more clinical term for senility).

  • Its that damn “liberal” media again. Many polls show overwhelming support for stems cell research. This is a losing battle for Rush and Company.

  • Michael Fox is a true martyr, with a brave and sunny disposition in the face of grim and certain corruption of the flesh. When confronted about this brouhaha, he said something to the effect of “Hey, I’m happy, it’s election time and people are talking about stem cells.” He doesn’t give a damn about Rush. Rush can’t make his Parkinson’s any worse, and if Rush dropped dead tomorrow it wouldn’t make his Parkinson’s any better. What he can do is take Rush down with him. All he has to do is smile while Rush (and his fellowship of media boneheads) take their shots at him.

    Michael, you have my sincere respect. I only hope I can go out with as much grace.

  • Michael J. Fox been on multiple television shows [after being diagnose with Parkinson] and commercials and not one time he jolted and jerked. He could’ve been acting or off his meds, Rush was saying some truth.

  • Michael J. Fox been on multiple television shows [after being diagnose with Parkinson] and commercials and not one time he jolted and jerked. He could’ve been acting or off his meds, Rush was saying some truth. Rashadlogic, post 47

    First of all, Parkinson’s is a gradually developing disease, much like Alzheimer’s, most cancers, and other diseases. Secondly, when you have a disease as eventually crippling as Parkinson’s or MS, you’re going to have good days and bad days.

    As someone not currently on meds for my disease (thanks to the toxicity [sp?] build-up of them after 9 years–and several doctors concurring that I should take a break from the drug regimen), I can say that you are full of crap. I still have the chronic diarrhea usually associated with the disease; I’m still on different meds whose sole purpose is to give me an appetite so that I don’t starve myself to death unintentionally; I still have monthly visits to my doctor for bloodwork to see if I’m progressing to the next stage or if my viral load is going up; I spent most of a week in a hospital just one month ago. You wouldn’t know any of this to look at me, since I still appear hale and hearty, though I look like I’ve lost quite a bit of weight in a fairly short time.

    One commercial filmed (most likely scheduled for one of his better days, if they can be reasonably predicted) is not an indicator one way or another. What does his wife say? What does his doctor say? What do the people who know and interact with him on a daily basis say?

    Deal with a life threatening illness of your own before you dare to impugn someone else for doing what they can to find a cure or a treatment to give relief.

  • That’s actually really prescient of Josh Marshall. He was invited to be on several of the Sunday shows this week, but is going out of town and said he wouldn’t go on them anyway. He sent over some transcripts instead. Remember, the reason you almost never see Limbaugh on TV news shows is because he disdains most of them, and his hearing problem makes it difficult to do many appearances.

  • >Deal with a life threatening illness of your own before you dare to impugn someone else for doing what they can to find a cure or a treatment to give relief.

    ^^^Um, isn’t it safe to say that a life threatening sickness can become so bad, that you could lie to the public to get a cure even if it means against Catholic churches and other things that is against the constitution of clonining/destroying human life and such.

    I think so. If you agree of killing other people to save your own.

  • to all the emotionally retarded, reactionary egocentrics out there who attempt to discredit a good decent man who’s trying to live with a debilitating disease while searching for a cure for himself and others….
    walk a mile in his shoes then tell us how they feel…

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