Mike Huckabee believes strange things

It’s probably fair to say that Mike Huckabee has had a strange week. On the one hand, he’s been surging in the polls, picking up religious right endorsements, and is now considered the frontrunner in the Iowa caucuses. On the other hand, he’s been caught lying about the Wayne Dumond scandal, he’s proven that has no idea what the National Intelligence Estimate is, he’s completed a dramatic flip-flop on immigration policy, and he’s presented himself as literally God’s own anointed presidential candidate.

It’s created an odd political dynamic — a folksy Baptist preacher who can charm radical Christian fundamentalists and DC media establishment types like David Broder and David Brooks with equal ease.

There’s one detail, though, that the prior group appreciates and the latter group ignores: Mike Huckabee has some very odd beliefs. He rejects modern biology; he’s argued publicly that Roe v. Wade may have created an immigration problem; and he’s said that if a man and a woman live together outside of marriage, they’re engaging in a “demeaning … alternate lifestyle.”

Today, the AP picks up on one of Huckabee’s other more unusual social beliefs (which the fine folks at Right Wing Watch began publicizing a few days ago).

Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could “pose a dangerous public health risk.”

As a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press. Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies.

“If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague [from the general population],” Huckabee wrote.

In the same questionnaire, Huckabee added, “I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk.”

He did not appear to be kidding.

Now, it’s tempting to think that perhaps it was just the ignorance of the times. 1992 was a while ago, and perhaps there was still widespread confusion in the country about the nature of AIDS and those who are HIV positive.

Except that’s far too forgiving an explanation. The AP noted that in 1992, “it was common knowledge that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact.” Four years before Huckabee expressed support for a quarantine, C. Everett Koop and the Surgeon General’s office explained to the nation that the disease could not be contracted through everyday contact.

Indeed, Magic Johnson had announced that he had contracted the disease in 1991, leading to an even broader national understanding about AIDS.

Now, to be fair, Huckabee may have changed his mind on some of these issues since 1992, at least we can hope so. That said, it’s worth remembering that a) at a minimum, Huckabee was quite a nut when it came to AIDS and anti-gay bigotry; and b) he’s not exactly rushing to dissociate himself with his previous comments — the AP reported, “Huckabee did not return messages left with his campaign.”

Stay tuned.

This whole “AIDS” thing is bogus. Go to the library and read Peter Duesberg’s book, “Inventing the AIDS Virus.” Go go to my website, http://www.bottlebrushpress.com, click on personal links and go to medical and read a few short essays on the subject. It all began back in the 1980s when some doctors at the Center for Disease Control (CDC) could not figure out why seemingly healthy young gay men were coming down with diseases typically associated with elderly junkies… Unfortunately, the doctors were too squeamish to ask the gay men about their sexual practices, and the drugs they took to facilitate said, and so, instead, their used their new scanning microscopes and discovered a tiny retrovirus, which they called HIV and then they went on to claim that said virus “caused” some two dozen traditional diseases associated with weakened immune systems.

This is the biggest medical fraud in history. Billions of dollars have been wasted and hardly anyone in the medical/corporate/government complex wants to admit it…

And the leaders of the African countries realized that if many of their traditional tropical diseases could be put under the “AIDS umbrella” that they could then get billions of dollars in aid from European countries and America. Pretty smart, huh?

Cheers.

  • This wasn’t a matter of MuthaHucker saying “Gee, AIDS can be spread by casual contact so it would be better for society if we locked up people who have a dangerous illness so other people can’t get it from casual contact.”

    This was Huck saying: “I hate gay people, and AIDS provides a handy excuse for putting them in camps.”

    “My administration will be the first to have an overarching strategy for dealing with HIV and AIDS here in the United States, with a partnership between the public and private sectors that will provide necessary financing and a realistic path toward our goals,”

    Yeah, that shouldn’t worry anyone at all.

    But if he does win, I recommend james k. sayre as his Surgeon General. Two unforgivably ignorant fuckheads are better than one, eh what?

  • ***Sayre*** I find that hard to believe. There are a number of dedicated scientists and physicians who want to prevent and stop this (whatever name you give it) disease that is claiming so many lives, No matter what you call it the idea is to irradicate it and any other disease that falls under the “umbrella”. So I guess I don’t get the point you are trying to make. Is there not a disease prominent among gays that is killing them that is “common” to these deaths that the medical community is trying to treat and destroy? How is it a rip off to try to treat diseases no matter the name or what category (umbrella) it is classified under?
    Hukabee is a dangerous person because he is a smooth talker knowing exactly how to politely win friends one on one but when his deeper beliefs are exposed he is hellfire underneath to the point of being an irrational fanatic. He doesn’t think AIDS is a disease…he thinks homosexuals are a disease and just like the fanatic Muslims he condemns he feels it is ok to kill non believers because they are going to hell anyway.
    His smile can fool a great many but his beliefs are radically destructive His “punishments” for homosexuality might come in trying to prevent treatment for AIDS.
    His belief system comes from faith through fear of punishment…punishment for him if he didn’t do what god tells him to do. His belief system prevents him from being a rational leader because he would use “faith” rather than “reason” to determine settle issues…especially on education and social reform.

    My concern is that Hukabee never really left the pulpit…he just brought it with him when he entered office.

  • @ #1:

    How do you know it didn’t come from the rectal probe of a UFO?

    @ Carpetbagger:

    Your posts are beginning to make bat-shit crazy McCain look like the apotheosis of modern rationality.

  • 1: So when my HIV-positive daughter’s viral load goes down and her T-Cell count goes up, and vice versa, that’s all just a coincidence? T-Cells are also just little squirmy tiny things that don’t mean anything? Every HIV specialist she’s had is a member of a vast conspiracy? Or what? What’s the theory here?

  • 1992? Everyone knew in 1992 that AIDS was not communicable by casual contact. That he was calling it a ‘plague’ in 1992 was a nod and a wink to the radical elements in his party. It was his way of telling the medieval freaks in his party that he too hates the dirty, diseased homosexuals. He’s wasn’t fooling anyone. Remember, we’re talking about Arkansas circa 1992 which back then was really 1980. Arkansas is now just coming into the mid 1990’s. The fact of the matter is that the same truth we know about how AIDS is spread was out there in 1982. YES 1982. I wrote an article in my school newspaper about the facts of AIDS in 1983. If a dumb and naive 17 year old can know the facts then there was no excuse for someone running for US Senate in 1992 to be so ignorant.

  • #1, have you met Jim Inhofe, one of my goofy U.S. Senators? He thinks that global warming is the “greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.”

    I would love to hear the two of you debate which is the greater hoax – the bogus AIDS thing, or the hoax of global warming.

  • News Release: Presidential Candidate, Governor Mike Huckabee Statement on AIDS Funding
    December 08, 2007
    Little Rock, AR – In the late 80’s and early 90’s we were still learning about the virus that causes AIDS. My concern, as a Senate candidate at the time, was to deal with the virus using the same public health protocols that medical science and public health professionals would use with any infectious disease.

    Before a disease can be cured and contained we need to know exactly how and with near certainty what level of contact transmits the disease. There was still too much confusion about HIV transmission in those early years. Recall that in 1991, Kimberly Bergalis testified in front of Congress after contracting HIV from her dentist, and that summer a study was published showing that HIV was transmitted through breastmilk more easily than had been thought. But the federal government provided some guidelines: Also in 1991 the Centers for Disease Control recommended restrictions on the practice of HIV-positive health care workers.

    At the time, there was widespread concern over modes of transmission and the possibility of epidemic. In the absence of conclusive data, my focus was on efforts to limit the exposure of the virus, following traditional medical practices developed from our public health experience and medical science in dealing with tuberculosis and other infectious diseases.

    We now know that the virus that causes AIDS is spread differently, with a lower level of contact than with TB. But looking back almost 20 years, my concern was the uncertain risk to the general population – if we got it wrong, many people would die needlessly. My concern was safety first, political correctness last.

    My administration will be the first to have an overarching strategy for dealing with HIV and AIDS here in the United States, with a partnership between the public and private sectors that will provide necessary financing and a realistic path toward our goals. We must prevent new infections and provide more accessible care. We must do everything possible to transform the promise of a vaccine and a cure into reality.

    Furthermore, I am proud that the United States has led the global battle against HIV/ AIDS. We have both a strategic interest as the world’s only superpower and a moral obligation as the world’s richest country to continue to do so until this scourge is a memory.

    I supported the current Administration’s proposal to double our initial commitment from $15 billion to $30 billion over the next five years for the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR). PEPFAR has already done an extraordinary amount of good, by providing drugs for over a million people and care for four-and-a-half million people, but it expires in 2008 and must be reauthorized. I support an increase in our commitment to the Global Fund. Through PEPFAR and the Global Fund, we can do our fair share to meet the Millennium Development Goals we affirmed in 2000, which include universal access to HIV/AIDS prevention, treatment, and care.

  • OMG James. WTF are you talking about? How many friends have you had to bury? I’ve witnessed more times than I want to recollect friends that have wasted away to nothing and die. I guess that was all in my mind. Who knew that Africa was so good at deceiving people that I actually thought my friends that ended up looking like Holocaust victims were all just an elaborate hoax thought up by the people in Africa. That they were able to infiltrate my psyche. Just shut the fuck up with that crap.

  • Huckabee may believe some strange things, but so do the people who support him. That’s what they like about him. He won’t lose any points for advocating isolation of AIDS patients, who caught it as a result of their “aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle.”

    I believe Huck is going to win this thing. Won’t that be a hoot?

  • Strange week – strange man – strange supporters. Seems consistent to me.

    If America wants a candidate who will take them back to the Dark Ages, I guess he’s their man. All the people who don’t believe in evolution, who fear science, who wouldn’t mind a return to segregation, who think a giant wall around the country would be a fine idea. Who want their religion to control the lives and decisions of all Americans, who think burning books is a fine way to spend an afternoon, who are opposed to abortion but love torture and the death penalty.

    I don’t presume to understand those people, but I am counting on there being too few of them to actually elect someone like Huckabee to the presidency.

    He’s not just strange, he’s off-the-charts out-of-the-mainstream.

  • People like Sayre @ #1 are delusional to the point of being dangerous. I am a Clinical Lab Scientist and have further training and certification as a Specialist in Blood Banking. I am registered with the American Society of Clinical Pathologists. I know about HIV and AIDS – we have reduced the rate of iatrogenic transmission to practically zero over the last 20 years because every single unit we issue, we test before we send it to the floor.

    Sayre is a nitwit, at best.

    And so is Huckabee. By his tortured logic, I guess Lesbians are God’s Chosen People.

  • OMFG Greg, are you shitting me?

    At the time, there was widespread concern over modes of transmission and the possibility of epidemic.

    No there wasn’t, unless you were a willfully ignorant scare-mongering bigotted bastard.

    We now know that the virus that causes AIDS is spread differently, with a lower level of contact than with TB.

    Hello? Am I the only one who thinks this irresponsible fuck is making it sound like it takes less contact to contract AIDS than tuberculosis?

    But looking back almost 20 years, my concern was the uncertain risk to the general population – if we got it wrong, many people would die needlessly. My concern was safety first, political correctness last.

    Except Mr. Reverend Governor Dickhead sir, there was no uncertainty (unless you were a scare-mongering etc) and this doesn’t jibe with your statements that homosexuals are “dangerous.” In addition, let’s pretend we’re a leader of some sort who actually had the power to carry out your little solution and think of how this would play out in the real world. You put your “Health Camps” in place and announce that anyone with the “plague” will have to be shut up until they die. But due to the nature of the illness a person could have the disease for years and not know it.

    So how will you find your potential detainees? They sure as fuck aren’t going to get tested because they don’t want to be locked up for ever. Shit, people used to get their houses burned down if it became known they had AIDS. People really were scared shitless that they’d be hauled off somewhere, which certainly helped contain the spread of the disease I can tell you. So, you’ll have to tell doctors to rat out their patients. The doctors will likely tell you to fuck off but people will stop going to the doctors, just in case. In the meantime, this disease, which you pretend to have believed can be spread by casual contact is still swirling around the environment. This is after Ryan White so anyone could have the killer kasual kontact kootie.

    Gosh, how will you know who has the disease and needs to go into the camps? You wouldn’t assume gay men have it and lock them up would you? Oh no, you’re too much of a Christian for that.

    Sorry to rant but what a filthy shit of a bastard.

  • Remember the little kids in Florida who got death threats and had their house burned down because they had AIDS? They were hemophiliac twins who had gotten the virus from the blood supply used to make clotting factors for their disease. Yet the knuckle-dragging “AIDS is a punishment from GOD!!!” crowd didn’t discriminate. To these assholes, AIDS is punishment for sodomy, and anyone who has it must, by definition, be a hell-bound homo. These are the people who like Huckabee. These are the people who want to run the country. These are the people who believe the earth is flat, the sun goes around the earth, the earth is only 6,000 years old, and man is the very apogee of creation. Their very existence begs the question of that last point, doesn’t it?

  • Sayre, #1: Ah, yes. The “HIV doesn’t cause AIDS” hoaxers.

    Similarly, evolution is a conspiracy to turn science against God. And the U.S. never landed on the moon. And 9/11 was an inside job.

    All you conspiracy theorist kooks seem incapable of taking into account the very simple fact that some legitimate scientist would have blown this wide open by now if there really was a conspiracy. But all the support we ever see for these conspiracy theories are kooks like you. And when confronted with this unavoidable rebuttle, you always resort to more conspiracy theory nonsense.

    You really are pathetic.

  • I was raised in a fundamentalist Southern Baptist church. For the most part, the religion is a hate-filled fear-mongering cult.

    Oddly the preacher appont themselves experts on everything from science to family values. But Southern Baptists have the highest divorce rate of any Christian denomination, and the scientific understanding of someone out of the dark ages.

    Unfortunately, the comments from the AIDS conspiracy theory is pretty common. These guys are completely divorced from rational thought.

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