Missile defense system goes ‘operational’

(My internet connection went down four hours ago. Sorry for the paucity of posts this afternoon.)

With [tag]North Korea[/tag] raising the possibility of some provocative missile tests, the United States has responded by turning our “missile defense system” on.

Amid concerns over an expected North Korean missile launch, the [tag]United States[/tag] has moved its ground-based [tag]interceptor[/tag] [tag]missile defense[/tag] [tag]system[/tag] from test mode to operational, a U.S. defense official said on Tuesday.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed a Washington Times report that the Pentagon has activated the system, which has been in the developmental stage for years. “It’s good to be ready,” the official said.

Well, it is good to be ready, but the minor detail the [tag]Pentagon[/tag] official neglected to mention is that no one knows if this defense system is capable of striking literally anything.

I saw one far-right blog today that went intto full-boast mode. Under the headline, “Thank God for Ronald Reagan & SDI,” the site said the Pentagon’s decision to turn on the missile defense system is proof that “liberals were on the wrong side of history.” The post went on to say, “If not for Ronald Reagan, and his vision and leadership, we would now be at the mercy of that lunatic in North Korea.”

Look, I’d be delighted if there was some kind of shield that could intercept missiles. We don’t. Critics of this system aren’t “on the wrong side of history”; just the opposite — we’re the ones paying attention to whether the darn thing actually works. And when the system has been put to the test, it almost always fails.

Operational tests are where the entire missile-defense program has run aground. The last successful intercept-test took place in October 2002. Since then (and before, as well), failures have ranged from complex (it missed the target) to jaw-droppingly basic (the rocket carrying the interceptor wouldn’t launch). In a February 2003 report, the Pentagon’s own testing director wrote that individual elements of the program — much less the entire system — had “yet to demonstrate significant operational capability.” Nothing has changed since then. (Tests were soon after suspended, to allow major redesigns; they are scheduled to resume late this year or early next.)

There are many, many reasons to be skeptical that this system, or any part of it, will ever work, no matter how many more billions of dollars are poured into it.

If the United States ever does deploy a system, a not terribly clever foe — the leaders of North Korea, Iran, or wherever — could evade it in two easy ways. They could fire two missiles at each target (no missile-defense test has ever been conducted against multiple targets, nor are any such tests scheduled). Or instead of firing a missile from a launch site whose location is known (thus making it easy for us to track the missile’s flight path to the target), they could load a missile on a barge, take it much closer to the target’s coastline, and fire it at such a short range that it doesn’t have to arc high into outer space; it could fly underneath the missile-defense system’s radar. (These techniques, by the way, are well-known and have been much discussed; the bad guys don’t need me to tell them how to do it.)

Anyone counting on this system protecting us is making assumptions the facts don’t support. We’re talking about an technological endeavor that requires an unprecedented coordination of space-based sensors, signal-analysis computers, interceptor agility and enough sheer thrust to lift a 10-ton object to about 20 times the speed of sound in less than a minute. So far, no one has been able to pull it off very well — and they may never be able to.

Before anyone thanks God for Reagan and declares themselves safe from the lunatic in North Korea, it’s something to consider.

Get ready Fred Kaplan. You are about to be accused of aiding the enemy. You know the diehard right will drag this line out, even though it is patently absurd that a journalist could somehow know more than the military leaders of the enemy. “Hey, two missiles??? We never thought of that. Gee thanks Fred!”

  • I thank God for giving Ron Reagan Alzheimer’s and bringing the public’s awareness up on the need for genetic engineering.

    In regards to N.Korean missles:

    If a N. Korean missle every hit America… that whole regime would find itself immediately on the “wrong side of history.”

    In other words:
    They’d find themselves blasted to smithereens.

    And that my friends, is why N. Korea isn’t a threat and never will be. They’ve got nothing to gain by striking America, and everything to lose.

    End of story.

  • The return of the faith-based missile defense system, one of my favorite coinages from recent years.

  • Well, exactly: what koreyel said. If the United States could deter the Soviet Union for about 40 years, surely we can deter North Korea.

  • Sadly on this issue, I agree with Koreyel and Tim. If I’m North Korea and want in any way to continue to even exist on this side of complete and utter devastation….I have to keep in mind the Cowboy mentality of this administration and err on the side of safety. There’s not a haint’s chance in hell that N Korea is stupid enough to give Junior the opportunity to try out that big red button on his desk that he keeps rubbing his fingers over……

  • North Korea is doing things the hard way. It is much easier to be a despot today, which NK, with its 50s goggles can’t seem to understand.

    Step 1. Allie one self with the US, specifically to GOP.
    Step 2. Make life unbearable for internal dissent
    Step 3. Trump up any internal incident as a terrorist attack
    Step 4. Launch Anti-terrorist campaign
    Step 5. Enlist help of CIA, US Special forces.
    Step 6. Invite US to build a military base in a corner of the country.
    Step 7. help US funnel weapons to groups undermining some neighboring government you don’t like.

    China understands some of these steps, specifically Step 2-4 and maybe a touch of 5. Specifically the way china has been dealing with the Uighurs.

  • If North Korea does fire, I dare the Bushies to try and shoot it down with their massive waste of tax payer money.

    Hey, this is a perfect situation for them to prove that their system works. I doubt they will though since I doubt even they believe it will work.

  • koreyel is basically right. Mutual assured destruction (MAD) applies–except North Korea is not our equal. There’s no question who will get leveled. That said, this administration lacks competence.

  • I’m actually disappointed in the Bush regime’s response. Whatever happened to “the best defense is a good offense”?

    Here’s what I was expecting:

    Send half a dozen B-2s to Okinawa.
    Say we’ve retargeted a squadron of Minuteman missiles.
    Send an Ohio-class SSBN closer to the penisula, and let Kim know it.

    Not saying I support these actions, but just coming out and saying “we’re going to hide behind a defense system that doesn’t work” because some Third World dictator wants to flex some muscle has to have Nixon and Reagan rolling in their graves.

    GOP: Grand Old Pussies

  • I’ll just echo koreyel, and especially “end of story,” which it is, if this were a debate about national security, which it sadly is not. And it would hold true for Iran, as well, and any other regime that might develop the capability to waft a missle our way once a decade. We can wipe out the world ten times in just a few hours, and everyone knows that, and nobody’s going to mess with us as long as that is true. As they say, the best defense is a good offense, and we have, conservatively, 5000 devastating nuclear warheads ready to blast the world to smithereens.

    But that’s not what this is about. It’s about feeding the military industrial complex, and scaring the daylights out of the American people so the war mongers and hawks and Republicans maintain control for the benefit of corporate America and the filthy rich.

    Nothing is as it seems in this country. And the Democrats will keep on losing until they understand it’s a power struggle, not a debate about policy. That’s just window dressing for the pathetic, naive, gullible American who thinks things are based on truth and justice in the American way.

  • This system was unable to hit a test missile that was broadcasting a radar beacon for it to home on. And they think it can hit a real missile????

    Further proof, if proof was necessary, that what righties call “facts” the rest of us call “fantasies.”

    It’s why they’re morons.

  • BTW – “AllThingsMoronic” er, I mean “AllThingsConservative” is getting the virtual equivalent of an ass-whipping on this. You might want to go over and pile on, there’s nothing more fun than kicking a Republican once he’s down.

  • Star Wars is a farce. It has a hit percentage around 10% and that is by cheating. CB has it right dead bang on in terms of technical difficulty. Basically you’re trying to shoot down a bullet with a bullet.

    Problem is that it seems too many of the pro-Star Wars types have spent too many hours playing Missile Command.

    This is just another PR move like when Raytheon touted the accuracy of the Patriot SAM in shooting down Scuds when in reality it didn’t shoot down any of them because the Iraqi Scuds shot themselves down by breaking in mid air.

  • Not saying I support these actions, but just coming out and saying “we’re going to hide behind a defense system that doesn’t work” because some Third World dictator wants to flex some muscle has to have Nixon and Reagan rolling in their graves.

    GOP: Grand Old Pussies

    Comment by 2Manchu

    As hark said, it’s not about protecting Merkins from evil empires. It’s about providing an excuse to shovel more money in to the Spitballs From Heaven program. It also ensures that the program maintains its fast track status and avoids the nastiness of having to provide test results that show progress like normal weapons development programs.

    That said, it is interesting that the folks who have been trumpeting this missile launch the loudest have been the hawks among the Busheviks and Koizumi’s clowns. The South Koreans seem quite sceptical of the whole matter and seem to wonder if it isn’t a disinformation campaign being orchestrated from Washington.

  • I say that should North Korea decide not to go through with the test, BushCo. will claim this was due to the their threat to use the missile defense. This will be protrayed as great victory for the system.

    The question is how will BushCo. handle things if the test goes on. If they use the missile defense it will almost certainly fail. That would be tought to spin. If the system isn’t used it would again be hard to spin.

    Do any of you think that anybody at BushCo has thought through what to do if the test goes on and how to spin the results?

  • Whatever happened to “the best defense is a good offense”?

    All day, every time I hear that we are keeping tabs on this missle and it’s launch-state with our satellites, I just wonder why Bush doesn’t just bllow it up on the ground.

    God knows once it leaves the pad we can’t do anything.

  • Oh No! The North Koreans have a missile that can hit America!

    Well, they have a missile that can hit Alaska (target Ted Stevens)!

    Well, they have a missile that might be able to hit the Aleutian Islands, maybe. Where, amusingly, our missile defense system happens to be.

    I’m with Paul, except I think an Aegis Missile Defense Cruiser should position itself to shoot the sucker down.

    But the North Korean missile is a psychological threat and our missile defense system is a psychological defense.

    When the North Koreans can kill a million people in Seoul in about ten minutes using conventional artillery, the whole idea of a missile gets to be a little stupid.

  • North Korea has defended its right as a sovereign state to test-fire an intercontinental ballistic missile but hinted that it might halt plans for the test if the United States, which has threatened to intercept any missile, agrees to direct talks.-TimesOnline.

    Look for the missile defense works spin to begin shortly.

  • OK, tinfoil hat time…

    Let’s say NK allegedly fires their missile at us, and we said we shot it down, then we blasted the crap out of them for trying to nuke us.

    Who the hell would know what really happened, except for the part about NK getting blasted? All we would know is what we were told by a bunch of people who told us Saddam had WMDs.

    Bush would have “saved America” from a member of “The Axis of Evil”, so the political bump would be enormous. We could see the chimp’s popularity back in the 80’s again literally overnight.

    The downside of course is that NK would probably unload on Japan and South Korea, but would Bush really care?

  • “OK, tinfoil hat time…

    Let’s say NK allegedly fires their missile at us, and we said we shot it down, then we blasted the crap out of them for trying to nuke us.” – Racerx

    That is tinfoil hat. I’m impressed with your paranoia!

    If we shoot the damn thing down (easier to do on the boost phase than the entry phase, by the way) it will be so damn impressive that we won’t even think of doing anything else.

    The North Koreans will have a legit complaint about our ruining their test, however.

  • So many people here and elsehwere just assume that NK will make a decision that we consider to be sane. Their view may not have anything in common with our views, and its reckless to assume that we understand the goals and desires of one of the most closed regimes on earth. Kim Jong Il may think that a fiery nuclear death is a great way to go out. It’s not like Hussein showed great judgement, and he knew a lot about the US.

    On the subject of shooting down their test missile, the stakes would be very high if we tried it. The administration would lose a lot of face if the attempt failed.

  • Regarding the actual logistics/technology of it:

    It’s like trying to hit a bullet fired from a gun with a bullet from a gun of your own.

    Missiles go alot faster than planes….

    This is of course assuming that the missile could reach the west coast. Somehow, I doubt that it could do that. I mean, what kind of guidance system would it have?

  • Looking at the political side of things:

    I know that the story is in the news, but it is kind of hypocritical that the missile test isn’t being talked about more by the media and the president? I mean, at least in the same way they and the president were with Iraq?

    Think about it this way: If Iraq was about to do something like this, Bush would be going crazy. And now that there actually is something potentially threatening (did Iraq ever get as far as fueling an ICMB?), Bush is just calm and cool about it?

    As has been mentioned elsewhere, if he really cared about national security, he would be more concerned about North Korea than Iraq.

    From that, we all conclusively KNOW that Iraq was invaded for something the president isn’t telling us…

  • Score one (no two, no three no, its a GRANDSLAM!) for the Bushies. LOL

  • Saddam did have WMD, over 500 have been found so far. You better cover your bets, only more info will come out. BTW, stop rooting for our enemies just because you hate Bush, your hatred and anger toward him is laughable and provides aid and comfort to our enemies. How about country first and politics a long way back?

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