Mitt Romney, Martin Luther King, and the final word

At this point, far too much ink — digital and analog — has been spilled covering Mitt Romney’s bizarre exaggeration about his father marching with Martin Luther King, but let’s just add one closing note.

To briefly recap, Romney, hoping to defend his civil rights and record and his church’s racist past, has repeatedly claimed that he saw his father march with Dr. King. An investigation indicated that George Romney, who was strong on civil rights, never marched with MLK, prompting Romney and his campaign to start parsing the words “saw,” “march,” and “with.”

It looked like the embarrassing flap had just about ended, until the Romney campaign directed reporters to two women who corroborated a story that Romney had already conceded wasn’t literally true.

Shirley Basore, 72, says she was sitting in the hairdresser’s chair in wealthy Grosse Pointe, Mich., back in 1963 when a rumpus started and she discovered that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and her governor, George Romney, were marching for civil rights — right past the window.

With the cape still around her neck, Basore went outside and joined the parade.

“They were hand in hand,” recalled Basore, a former high-school English teacher. “They led the march. We all swung our hands, and they held their hands up above everybody else’s.” … Another witness, Ashby Richardson, 64, of Massachusetts gave the campaign a similar account.

A ha, the Romney campaign said, the story that wasn’t literally true may be accurate after all.

Except that’s still wrong. Worse, it’s part of a pattern.

The Boston Phoenix, which helped get this story started a few days ago, found that the witnesses must be remembering the decades-old event incorrectly.

Two women contacted the Mitt Romney campaign this week, offering their memories of seeing Romney’s father march with Martin Luther King Jr., in Grosse Point Michigan in 1963. Campaign officials were well aware that the women were mistaken. Yet, they directed those women to tell their stories to a Politico reporter. The motives and memories of the two women are unknown and irrelevant; the motives of the campaign, however, were obvious — to spread information they knew to be untrue, for the good of the candidate.

By getting this story out late on Friday afternoon, heading into the holiday weekend — good luck getting a King historian on the phone before Wednesday — the campaign was pretty well assured that it could keep alive through Christmas their claim that Mitt Romney was mistaken only about “seeing” it, not about it taking place.

Then-governor George Romney did indeed march in Grosse Pointe, on Saturday, June 29, 1963, but Martin Luther King Jr. was not there; he was in New Brunswick, New Jersey, addressing the closing session of the annual New Jersey AFL-CIO labor institute at Rutgers University.

Those facts are indisputable, and quite frankly, the campaign must have known the women’s story would eventually be debunked — few people’s every daily movement has been as closely tracked and documented as King’s.

The campaign couldn’t leave well enough alone. They had to push their luck, bringing witnesses forward whose claims are, alas, still wrong.

Worse, the NYT notes that Romney’s tall tales are a constant drag on his credibility.

There was the period last spring when Mitt Romney claimed while campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire that he had been a hunter “pretty much all my life,” only to have to admit later he had seriously hunted on only two occasions.

Then there was the endorsement Mr. Romney claimed on NBC’s “Meet the Press” last Sunday that he received from the National Rifle Association while running for governor of Massachusetts in 2002, when it turned out the group had never endorsed him.

Mr. Romney’s latest concession is that he only “figuratively” saw his late father, George, march with Martin Luther King Jr., something he claimed in his highly publicized speech about his Mormon faith earlier this month. Some publications have raised doubts that the event ever happened at all.

Mr. Romney once said about misstatements by his Republican rival, Rudolph W. Giuliani, “facts are stubborn things.” But does he have his own problem with blurring the truth?

I’d still argue Romney’s habit of habitual exaggerations pale in comparison to Giuliani’s, but the former governor is catching up quickly. Check out the whole article; it’s an ugly record.

Even without knowing this kind of history on Romney, we got the first glimmers of his penchant for saying pretty much anything, when he started his campaign by turning 180 degress from positions he held, or at least ran on, as governor of Massachusetts; his convoluted explanation for why he was actually pro-life was just nakedly ridiculous, especially when you factor in why he said he was pro-choice to begin with – that a relative’s wife had died from a botched abortion.

I think I’ve had enough of people who will say anything, especially in the face of a record that indicates something entirely different.

  • Lying politicians seem to be in vogue this election.

    Lying is in vogue for Republicans every election.

  • Two witness’ have come forth. Which dispels everything you have said and makes you the liars.
    Are you willing to speak to these ladies and gather affidavits? No, of course not. You’re afraid of the honest truth. And you have a template to follow.
    Goebells would be so proud.
    Dig yourself deeper and when you’re done your journalism careers will be over, much like Dan Rather when he started twisting facts and ignoring others.
    The Romney families record on civil rights is indisputable, period.
    “I said” is a very common phrase used in the figurative sense.
    Your agenda here is obvious and you are not fooling anyone.
    Have the guts to post your name weasel.

    good day
    ajarizona

  • ……4. On December 23rd, 2007 at 11:05 am, ajarizona said:
    …….Your’e afraid of the truth. And you have a template to follow.
    Goebells would be so proud…..

    None are so blind as they who refuse to see. Ajarizona did you even bother to read the whole article? And as for Mitt and his minions, don’t they know when to leave well enough alone? jebus save me!

  • If he thought it would help get him elected, he would say he was MLK’s love child.

  • Um, Mike – sometimes it helps to read all the way through the post before asking such a question. George Romney was in Grosse Pointe, Michigan on the day in question, but Martin Luther King, Jr. was in New Brunswick, New Jersey on the same day.

    I’m sure the Grosse Pointe march included some prominent Michigan civil rights leaders – and I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s entirely possible that in 1963 in whiter-than-white Grosse Pointe, these two women may have seen Romney with a black man, and assumed it was MLK, Jr.

  • The Boston Phoenix wrote:

    The motives and memories of the two women are unknown and irrelevant;

    Well, they’re relevant if the women are motivated by a bribe or a similar compormise of their honesty, because it would show that the statements are almost certainly false. Let’s not forget that people can be bribed, ok?

  • Do those anchors actually do the fact gathering ? I thought they were all just talking heads , or is Bill O’Reilly the only one that still pounds the pavement .

  • I’m thinking now that Romney is more than a serial exaggerator. He may have become a “legend in his own mind,” or someone who has heroic daydreams about himself and then starts to believe his own fantasies.

    Has he started referring to himself in the third person yet?

  • A close examination of the history of the LDS would shed much light on the methods we are seeing employed by Romney. When it comes to gaining the support of the religious right, he resorts to the tried and true practice of confusing his constituents (flock) with what they want to believe and the facts be damned. Joseph Smith, Sidney Rigdon and Brigham Young–among others–perfected the technique Romney is using. Karl Rove understood that same technique and used it to great success.
    Another fine example of what I’m talking about is a recent news item about a student at Princeton who made a false report about being assaulted by liberal bullies for his opinion about condom distribution. The obvious reason for the charade was to assassinate the collective character of his opponents.
    If there are Goebbels like characters lurking in the political background it is imperative that we recognize and expose them promptly. There are serious sociological issues that must be addressed before any meaningful progress in assuring a favorable sustainable future for all americans can occur. The propaganda is running rampant and it isn’t doing us any good.

  • Maybe the supposed march for civil rights was actually held in Grosse Pointe Farms, not Grosse Pointe…

  • Somone is surprised to discover that Republicans live in Fantasy Land, where “facts” are what you say they are? You didn’t know that the Mad Hatter has been elected Chairman of RepublicanWorld? Romney, Il Douche and the rest are merely visitors at the tea party.

  • Perhaps we should coin the word “Mittspeak” to describe the tortured justifications and excuses given for the lies of habitually mendacious politicians like Mitt Romney, Ronald Reagan, Rudy Giuliani, and the King of them all, George W. Bush.

  • More facts to prove Romney and King never marched together, and that Ms. Bashore’s account, no matter how firmly believed by her, Mitt Romney or his supporters, is patently incorrect:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/23/92543/793/338/425779

    King marched in Detroit on June 23, 1963. Romney marched in Grosse Pointe on June 29, 1963, and neither of them was at the other march.

    Romney’s either seeing things or has a rather wishful memory.

  • I like the “Mittspeak”. I plan to use it when talking about these polititians with their lies. I have been so tired of hearing the following words- mispoke and mislead when people talk about Bush/Cheney.

  • Mitt Romney is awesome and was searched out and chosen to head up the SLC 2002 Olympics precisely because they wanted a business man known for impecable integrity. That’s what he is. Mitt’s older brother remembers his Father telling him he marched with King as well. The details might be fuzzy, but I know Romney is not a liar.

    Now anyone who would cheat on their spouse is a liar as is the case with Guliani and McCain.

  • Mormons not racist

    Jason Riley is spinning on the truth as it slams Romney and his religion. Mormons do not have any current teaching that blacks are inferior in any way. Yes, there were past general authorities who wrote their own commentary, but never anything officially sanctioned by the Mormon Church. In 1852, Brigham Young did officially restrict blacks from the Priesthood.

    Needed is the clarification that most white Churches until the 1970’s still did not allow blacks as leaders and many as members.

    To answer why the Church took maybe 10 or so years longer than some others, after the civil rights movement, look no further than the decision making structure of the Church. It is one-of-a-kind among mainline religions (yes, it’s the 4th largest religious body in the U.S.) because it requires a unanimous decision among both the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve to make an official change. That’s fifteen strong leaders among whom there cannot be a single dissenting vote. If only a majority were needed, like in other Churches, blacks no doubt would have been allowed the priesthood much earlier.

    The Church is not racist and does not teach officially or unofficially that blacks are inferior in any way. I can prove it. Every single Church doctrine, teaching manual, scriptures and everything official in the Church is online at lds.org. There is nothing else. Any member of the Church would appeal to the materials on this website as the official and final word of everything taught, believed, and lived by its members. If it is not on that website, then active temple going members collectively and individually do not believe it is true. Mormons believe the whole thing is true and to not pick and choose doctrines.

    Here is the official doctrine on the curse of Cain http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gs/c/80

    The truth is that Joseph Smith was forcing would-be members to free their slaves before they were baptized. He also personally baptized and ordained blacks to the priesthood which was unheard of for his time. Later, Brigham Young, in 1852 decided to forbid blacks from the priesthood officially (totally common practice among all religions of the day) which lasted until 1978. However, blacks were always allowed to be members (not common practice for its day) and Brigham and Joseph both taught that we are equal in the eyes of God.

    What’s really ironic is that the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention) of which Huckabee was a minister was created expressly for the purpose of continuing slavery and separating from the other Baptists for that purpose (see wikipedia). It’s now the 2nd largest religious body in the U.S. The SBC only officially apologized for being racist in 1995. Mormons on the contrary were not apologizing for being proslavery or anything else. There were already loved black Mormons in 1978, but now they could become the leadership of the Church.

    For a little more irony, the Mormon Church is thriving in Africa. Other American religions are there also, except among them, Mormons are some of the only people expressly forbidden to practice Polygamy. Many other mainline U.S. religions there allow it because it is such a dominant part of African culture, but not Mormons.

    As for portraying Romney as being anti-polygamy, but not anti-racist, he said he couldn’t wait for it to change and was so glad when it did. His father established the first Civil Rights organization in Michigan State government and marched with MLK. What more do you want?

  • I’ll just say what some folks are dancing around. In 1963, it was rare for Whites and Blacks to socialize. You didn’t many Blacks on the TV. Hell, most folks had only one TV or no TV. The chances that Shirley Basore and Ashby Richardson have seen many Blacks would be rare. Therefore, it would be highly likely that they saw a Black man and mistook him for Martin Luther King. Local Black Civil Rights leader, Arthur Johnson, stated that Martin Luther King didn’t March thru Grosse Pointe but George Romney did. This was a guy who knew both men.

    I don’t think that the point that Mitt has stretched the truth is the problem. The problem is this is a constant thing with him. Without even thinking we can come up with 4 or 5 or 6 times that he has stretched the truth. Combine that without right lies, this guy is only fit to play president in Independence Day 4 – Zombies Attack.

  • Why is this article attacking the two witnessess as if they were lying? I think more support will show up to prove the point that George Romney did march with MLK. And even if they didn’t, it’s a fact that George did a lot for the black community.

    As for the Mormons being racist, please stop the hypocrisy! The Mormons embraced the blacks and it was one of the main reasons their homes and crops wereb burned and driven away from Missouri. But the worse was when then Gov. Boggs ordered the extermination of the Mormons in Missouri. Is that an act of a Christian? Well, we know that several Christian leaders and pastors were behind all these evil deeds even to the death of their prophet, Joseph Smith. Many of these so called Christians even believed that it was Biblical for the blacks to be servants of the white race.

    In Their 1967 Book, Stephen Hess And David Broder Wrote That George Romney “Marched With Martin Luther King Through The Exclusive Grosse Point Suburb Of Detroit.” “He has marched with Martin Luther King through the exclusive Grosse Pointe suburb of Detroit and he is on record in support of full-coverage Federal open-housing legislation.” (Stephen Hess And David Broder, The Republican Establishment: The Present And Future Of The G.O.P., 1967, p. 107)

    1851: J.F. Brennan Publishes Book by Josiah Priest titled Bible Defence of Slavery Brennan claims that Cain’s parents were Eve and the serpent. Unfortunately, this book becomes very influential in “explaining” the black race.

    1848: Baptists Split over Slavery
    The American Baptist Missionary Union, (now the American Baptist Convention) split over slavery and the Southern Baptist Convention is formed. It remains a separate convention to this day. (One must question if they still disagree on the black segregation or slavery issue since that is why they originally split.)
    1843: Methodist Ministers are Slaveholders

    “In 1843, 1,200 Methodist ministers owned 1,500 slaves, and 25,000 members owned 208,000 slaves…the Methodist Church as a whole remained silent and neutral on the issue of slavery.” (Slavery and Religion in America: A time line 1440 – 1866, at: http://www.ipl.org/ref/timeline/)

  • I think you have your facts backwards. In fact, you’ve outdone Romney on your stretches here! The reporters who stated that Romney’s father never marched with King, who were hardly experts by the way, stepped forward prior to the two women who were eyewitnesses and in fact participants in the march.

    Romney literally saw his father’s example, a father who supported King and who King himself said would make a great President, and his statement that this was a figure of speech is perfectly justifiable and hardly a lie in the sense that Bill Clinton lied.

    Romney furthermore witnessed (i.e. ‘saw’) the events of the 1960’s and his father’s courageous activities, and we may expect George Romney’s outstanding character to inform Mitt as he serves with distinction as President of the United States.

    Mitt is a humble and good man who has impeccable character and a record of extraordinary success in both business and his personal life. I have met him in person and can vouch for him.

    Fine people of America, don’t let this hate speech and twisting of facts fool you. Take another look at Mitt’s speech and judge for yourself what kind of man this is:

    http://mitt-tv.mittromney.com/?showid=718280

  • The Detroit Free Press has the Final Word. Please stop your character assassination of Mitt Romney!

    Detroit Free Press: “With Gov. Romney a surprise arrival and marching in the front row, more than 500 Negroes and whites staged a peaceful anti-discrimination parade up Grosse Pointe’s Kercheval Avenue Saturday. … ‘the elimination of human inequalities and injustices is our urgent and critical domestic problem,’ the governor said. … [Detroit NAACP President Edward M.] Turner told reporters, ‘I think it is very significant that Governor Romney is here. We are very surprised.’ Romney said, ‘If they want me to lead the parade, I’ll be glad to.’” (”Romney Joins Protest March Of 500 In Grosse Pointe,” Detroit Free Press, 6/29/63)

  • And now there are THREE, who have come forward as eye witness’ to George and Martin marching together.THREE! Two women and a man!

    Go and talk to these inviduals, media and bloggers alike. Eye witness’ are the ultimate testimony in any court of law.

    Right out of the Dan Rather School of “unethical” Journalism, the critics of Romney
    are quoting twenty or thirty something journalists who were not there and are using newspaper reports? to justify their conclusions?

    Contemporaries of George and Martin, alive, and there at the time, have stated otherwise, as have 3 eyewitness’.

    Seems to me the burden of proof is not on the Romney’s but rather, on the shoddy old and new media. It also seems the media is standing in a glass house with all the windows closed, willing and and ready to let the rocks fly to the outside.

    Be careful people, and journalists alike, your tactics are career killers for you as well. If you are shown to having been lax, lazy, and untruthful in your coverage, you will be exposed to the world as the phonies that “you are”. Getting your names to the masses and the way you conduct yourselves, is not a big deal.

    You can ignore these witness’, but you have an obligation and a duty, to seek these people out and get their stories, if you are honorable. This is justice 101.

    Truth will out.

    ajarizona

  • The following is the verbatim text of an *Associated Press* article from the June 24, 1963 edition of the News-Palladium out of Benton Harbor, Michigan.

    Headline: Boo Romney For Refusal To Parade
    DETROIT (AP) — Dr. Martin Luther King Sunday night was asked his opinion of Gov. George Romney’s turning down an invitation to join the “Walk to Freedom.”

    “I would not like to make any derogatory remark about it,” said King. “I would leave this to his conscience.” Romney said he could not attend the demonstration because he does not enter into public affairs on Sunday, in accordance with his Mormon beliefs.

    When a message of greeting was relayed to the Cobo Hall audience from Romney, there was an outburst of booing. The booing lasted about a minute.

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