Moore wants to ban Muslims from Congress

For goodness sakes, if Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Congress’ first Muslim lawmaker, is causing widespread apoplexy among right-wing activists now, before he’s even sworn in, how are they going to be able to deal with him, you know, legislating?

When we last left this story, right-wing talk-show host and writer Dennis Prager had just finished explaining that Ellison will literally “undermine American civilization” and “embolden Islamic extremists” if he takes the oath of office on a Koran instead of a Christian Bible. Though Prager’s column on the issue was quickly embraced by the religious right, Prager later said he would not support a religious test for public office and mysteriously blamed Ellison for causing trouble.

Enter Roy Moore, the former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice who was driven from office in disgrace because a religious crusade led him to believe he could ignore the U.S. Constitution. Prager backed away from the notion that Muslims should be prohibited from serving in Congress, but Moore isn’t nearly as shy — the former jurist said Muslims are not fit for office.

To support the Constitution of the United States one must uphold an underlying principle of that document…. The Islamic faith rejects our God and believes that the state must mandate the worship of its own god, Allah. […]

Our Constitution states, “Each House [of Congress] shall be the judge … of the qualifications of its own members.” Enough evidence exists for Congress to question Ellison’s qualifications to be a member of Congress as well as his commitment to the Constitution in view of his apparent determination to embrace the Quran and an Islamic philosophy directly contrary to the principles of the Constitution.

Yes, according to Moore, Congress shouldn’t just stop Ellison from using the Koran for his ceremonial photo-op, the institution should literally ignore the election results and forbid Ellison from taking his seat.

Remember, Moore was a duly elected Republican judge in the state of Alabama.

I was particularly fond of this argument from Moore’s WND column:

[C]ommon sense alone dictates that in the midst of a war with Islamic terrorists we should not place someone in a position of great power who shares their doctrine. In 1943, we would never have allowed a member of Congress to take their oath on “Mein Kampf,” or someone in the 1950s to swear allegiance to the “Communist Manifesto.”

The comparison doesn’t make a lot of sense, but never mind that. Moore obviously believes that the United States is necessarily at war with all Muslims, and we can’t have out “enemy” in the halls of Congress. Moore therefore believes it’s wise — indeed, necessary — to ignore the Constitution in order to protect ourselves from the congressman-elect from Minnesota.

But perhaps it’d be fun to take Moore’s argument to the next level. Extrapolating from his thesis, the United States is at war against religious extremists. Fundamentalists who believe that every word of their holy text is literally true, and who have no tolerance for those who disagree, have become our enemy, and must be shunned. Their way is simply not our way.

By this logic, aren’t there a few dozen Republican lawmakers in Congress — allies of Roy Moore, incidentally — who should be blocked from taking their seats in the 110th also?

Has the United States always been this insane or does the internet just makes us more aware of bozos like Roy Moore and magnify their importance?

  • Moore should set aside his worry – up to now, members of Congress under Bush have not even been listened to, never mind holding a “position of great power”. Individual members could worship Ronald McDonald for all he cares, just as long as they keep rubber-stamping his policy initiatives and crankin’ out those blank checks.

  • Hey, Keith was elected fair and square and by a large majority of the voters up here. If Roy doesn’t like that, well that’s too damned bad.

  • petorado asks: Has the United States always been this insane or does the internet just makes us more aware of bozos like Roy Moore and magnify their importance?

    It’s always been worse, actually (at least all my life it has been). When the McCarthy-era “under God” insertion was challenged in the courts for the religious bullshit that it is, almost the entire house of representatives stood on the steps of the house and took a crap on the constitution.

    20 years ago they would have simply shot the atheist and been done with it.

  • By this logic, aren’t there a few dozen Republican lawmakers in Congress — allies of Roy Moore, incidentally — who should be blocked from taking their seats in the 110th also?

    Having spent time in Alabama during the Roy Moore fiasco, I can safely say that the answer to your question is an emphatic NO. The reason being is that America was founded by christians based on christian principles. To the extent that lawmakers adhere to any type of fundamentalist christian ideology, Roy Moore would simply say that they are carrying out the vision of our founding fathers.

    For the record, I don’t buy that and think Roy Moore is a publicity whore who is simply looking for any way to stay relevant in the public eye. His success comes from his ability to present his arguments in a passionate and convincing way. They sound good as long as they are not tested, but fall apart like a house of cards when that happens. I watched the cross-examination of him at his trial and he sounded like a complete idiot.

  • We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    The Preamble to the Constitution, as written above, contains no mention of Christ or Christianity or Christian nation or Gods of any faith. What (nonexistent) “underlying principle” is douchebag Roy Moore referring to? The Preamble is thought to indicate the origin, scope, and purpose of the Constitution. It doesn’t confer powers but suggests that the powers of the Congress will be such as, among others, to “..provide for the common defense (and) promote the general welfare…” Does anyone see any underlying principle in support of “our God” and sanctions against any other religion?

    Can you find it in the Articles? In the Amendments??

    What is this fucking douchebag talking about!???

  • Effin’ insane!

    What I find interesting is that if Prager had never brought this “issue” up, many people would not know there is going to be Muslim in Congress – and that includes the terrorists that Ellision is suppsedly helping. So any aiding, abetting, embolding, etc is actually Prager’s fault.

    As for Roy Moore – I want him to point to some part of the Constution and tell me where it says only Christians can be elected to Congress. If Muslims take an oath to defend the Constitution when they join the military they should be able to be elected to Congress – which I suppose means we need to book at the Muslims out of the military. When will people understand that he doesn’t actually believe in the Constitution. Of course he is just crazy and arguing with a crazy person is nuts as well as pointless.

  • [The] reason being is that America was founded by christians based on christian principles….

    Oh, really?? And exactly what are the “christian principles” this nation is “based on”? Name them. And cite the sources that verify your specious claim.

  • Roy Moore could not be more wrong. To me, the election of Ellison helps to show the world the value and strength of democracy. That is perhaps an obvious statement, but I can’t help but believe that Ellison’s election shows some of the more extreme Islamic fundamentalists that there are alternatives to guns, that people of mixed faith can and do work together.

    Sounds naive I know, simplistic. But symbols can be a powerful motivators, and Ellison would make a great symbol I think.

  • Just as people like Moore are often “Salad Bar” Christians – picking and choosing which parts of the bible to adhere to and which to ignore – Moore also seems to take a “Salad Bar” view of the Constitution, conveniently overlooking Article VI, section 3:

    “…no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

  • Well, there is also the fact that the Muslim God is the Christian God and is the Jewish God too. It is only in the minds of the silly Christianists that there are separate Gods. Jews know that Christians and Muslims worship the same God they do, but they don’t agree with the messenger’s classification as a Voice of God.

  • I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…

    Having failed to defend the constitution against enemies primarily domestic, nearly all Republican carryovers from the 109th Congress should be removed from office.

  • “the Muslim God is the Christian God and is the Jewish God too.” – Carol

    Ah, the God of Abraham. That is, if you don’t think the other religions are just lying about it and are actually just a bunch of Satan worshipers. Or maybe you are more chariable and believe that by worshiping God the wrong way, they are still a bunch of Satan worshipers.

    It takes a bit of religious tolerance to accept that there is but one God of all the Abrahamic religions and that we are all worshiping Him as best as we can, and that He accepts that worship without complaint. Unfortunately religious tolerance is not a noted characteristic of fundamentalists, whether Christian, Muslim or even Jewish.

  • Does this arsehole realize he’s making a lot of lawyers piss their pants with glee?

    Think of it, if you had a Muslim client and Moore ruled against him, you would RUN, not walk to file an appeal. “Your Honor, Judge Moore has shown a clear and deep seated bias against Muslims. It is impossible to argue this attitude didn’t play a part in his ruling…”

    Also, it would be pretty funny if Prager accused Moore of plagarism for ripping off his Mein Kampf example. But not as funny as Prager and Moore being dipped in honey and staked out on a fire ant hill.

  • It takes even more religious tolerance to go outside Abraham’s big tent to encompass the other 4/5 of the world’s humans, some of whom don’t even believe that Abraham or his god ever existed. Moore is a troglodyte. Why does the media even pay attention to these nimrods? Because stupidity is amusing?

  • Prager and Moore being dipped in honey and staked out on a fire ant hill.

    We don’t torture in America. I’m afraid we’d have to do an extraordinary rendition for that bit of amusement. Though I think Guantanamo has fire ants, so it wouldn’t require too much air fare. I’ll chip in…

  • I hereby place before the Carpetbagger Committee a motion to ban Roy Moore from all land surfaces of the planet Earth. Do I have a second?

  • Do I have a second?

    [Breaks sound barrier raising hand]

    With the help of DieVote, the folks here can whip up an overwhelming majority. I propose we toss Roy “No” Moore in the Potomac. His skin will start to slough off the moment he hits the “water.” This will attract the snake heads, and then the currents will drag him under…

    Tickets to this once in a life time event start at $100. (DieVote must be appeased by massive amounts o’ green backs.)

  • “By this logic, aren’t there a few dozen Republican lawmakers in Congress — allies of Roy Moore, incidentally — who should be blocked from taking their seats in the 110th also?”
    no offense to cong-elect ellison – whom i am sure is a wonderful and reasonable person (being from mn, now could he not be?) – but i’d happily trade him for all born–again repuglican seats in the 110th. that is, we lose one guy, they lose… what? … 200?

  • I think Ellison needs at least a federal marshall always at his side. Can you imagine the repercussions if an American were to kill him?

  • Someone wish to ask Moore what comes first, the Bible or the Constitution? If he says “Bible”, how is that different from a Muslim choosing the Qu’ran over the Constitution?

    Personally, this all doesn’t bother me, because as a Catholic, I know that heretic son-of-a-Protestant-whore is going to Hell, anyway.

  • The vast majority of the founders of this Country were Masons, not Christians. The actions of this Country over the last two hundred plus years show that it has very little in common with the teachings of Jesus.

  • “The vast majority of the founders of this Country were Masons, not Christians.” – Proudleftists

    You can’t be both? Didn’t know that.

  • The thing that worries me is the tension in our country between Muslims and Christians…not to mention others. It does seem to be heating up.
    Personally, I wouldn’t want to be in Ellison’s shoes, or Prager’s, or Moore’s…sooner or later some terrorist from some group is bound to take a pot shot at one or the other of them…
    I have to wonder…
    Why????

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