Mr. ‘Catapult the Propaganda’ is worried about us ‘propagandizing’

For the third time, the [tag]president[/tag] sat down with Bill [tag]O’Reilly[/tag] yesterday, for an interview that O’Reilly fully admits would be softball-city. This is a classic exchange — for both of them.

O’REILLY: Is one of the reasons they’ve turned against the [tag]war[/tag] in [tag]Iraq[/tag] is that the anti-Bush press pounds day in and day out in newspapers, on the network news, in books like Bob Woodward’s, that you don’t know what you’re doing there. You have no have a strategy. You don’t listen to dissent. You’ve got this thing in your mind and you’re stubborn and you just can’t win it.

[tag]BUSH[/tag]: Well, I’m disappointed that people would propagandize to that effect because the stakes are too high for that kind of illogical behavior.

“Illogical behavior”? Is there literally anything about the president’s war policy that is logical? For that matter, which part of the criticism of Bush’s handling of Iraq would the president consider “illogical”?

And Bush is disappointed about “propagandizing”? If memory serves, this is the guy who recently said, “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”

It’s naïve, but I had hoped that, in time, the weight of the office would have an effect on the president, and he’d slowly mature. Lately, I’m convinced Bush is actually getting worse.

“Well, I’m disappointed that people would propagandize to that effect because the stakes are too high for that kind of illogical behavior.”
-The Decider

Uh, okay. We could say the same thing about W and baba O’lielly. I think that the WH docs should be upping the Decider’s daily goofball dosage.

  • OK, let’s talk about “illogical”. Here’s how Bush followed up that sentence:

    BUSH: “We have got a plan — first of all a stated goal. And I have said to our commanders on the ground, you achieve that goal and we’ll give you the tools necessary to do it.”

    So he doesn’t have a plan, just a goal that he tells his commanders “you achive!”

    Nothing amazes me anymore. Just nothing.

  • It’s naïve, but I had hoped that, in time, the weight of the office would have an effect on the president, and he’d slowly mature.

    But it has. The weight and pressure have crushed that coke-ravaged quart of glop he uses for a brain into a hardened lump of impure coal.

    However, Bush may have accidentally spoken honestly here. He thinks propaganda is the truth so he could really be saying he’s dissapointed people are telling the truth about him.

    Zen Koan du Jour: What is the sound of one lame duck quacking?

  • President Bush and his ilk are authoritarians. They wouldn’t recognize small “d” democracy if it hit them on the head. Legitimate dissent, differences of opinion and alternatives to existing policy are not seen as democratic input, but rather propagandistic challenges. What a fine mess this president and his party have gotten us into in the early 21st century. I most humbly submit that Mr. Bush has been drunk with power, and he is about to wake up to a major hangover on November 8th, 2006.

  • And here’s how Bush responded to the O’Lielly’s claims that the press claim that “You don’t listen to dissent”

    BUSH: And so to the critics who say we don’t listen, of course we listen. I listen to the most important people of all, the people on the ground who are actually in Baghdad making the difficult decisions necessary to help this government succeed.

    That’s not dissent, you propogandist!

  • Bush: “I listen to the most important people of all, the people on the ground who are actually in Baghdad making the difficult decisions necessary to help this government succeed.”

    Translation: I listen to my yes men say yes. Otherwise, not so much.

  • Lately, I’m convinced Bush is actually getting worse.

    Honestly, the news these days reads like “The Last Days of the Third Reich” or something. Rats deserting, the Leader wandering around in a daze ordering nonexistent divisions and squadrons into battle, stuff coming down around his head ….

  • More pure entertainment:

    O’REILLY: You are saying they are not “no spin” guys over there in China?
    BUSH: I think there may be some spin guys over there in China.

    or this one:

    O’REILLY: Ever think about this North Korean leader? Is he just insane?
    BUSH: We will see. We will see as he reaches more decisions.

    OK, sorry that’s it I won’t bother you guys with any other quotes from idiotville…

  • Putting the”Decider” and the “White Wail” in a room together is like Darwin’s theory of evolution—in reverse. Each tries to out-softball the other, to determine who’s really the weakest, thus determining which one survives, and which one goes belly-up in that big fishbowl called “Extinction.” Bush, of course, will be politically gone in no more than “about twenty-seven months;” demoted to a mere footnote in the historical mists of time, regardless of how long he lives. “Oh-Moby” (I can’t help it; he reminds he of something only a lunatic like Melville’s peg-legged Ahab could intentionally seek out), on the other hand, is nearing his point of no return, as his audience is already attaining its average die-off age.

    I wonder if Olbermann will call it a two-way tie for worst person in the world: Herr Bush and Oh-Moby?

  • It’s naïve, but I had hoped that, in time, the weight of the office would have an effect on the president, and he’d slowly mature.

    The weight of the office has been the equivalent of an anchor handed to a man sinking in quicksand.

  • every so often, i try to imagine what it would be like to have an hour with george bush: what arguments could i use to break through his ignorance and denial.

    and each time, i conclude there are none: his ignorance and denial are simply too strong.

    i will say, though, that his skill at spouting meaningless gibberish has gotten better and better….

  • OK, let’s talk about “illogical”. Here’s how Bush followed up that sentence:

    BUSH: “We have got a plan — first of all a stated goal. And I have said to our commanders on the ground, you achieve that goal and we’ll give you the tools necessary to do it.”

    So he doesn’t have a plan, just a goal that he tells his commanders “you achive!” — Ohioan, @#2

    Not jut that… If my understanding of English (admittedly, not my first language) holds, he’s saying that his commanders should achieve the goal *first*, and only afterwards will he give them the necessary tools…

  • Thank God I have a parental control block on Fox News Channel. It’s for the protection of the television set, since it reacts badly to things thrown through the screen.

  • “Well, I’m disappointed that people would propagandize to that effect because the stakes are too high for that kind of illogical behavior.”

    The stakes are not too high to actually raise taxes to pay for this war.

    The stakes are not too high to cut aircraft carriers and super-modern jets to pay for the refit of the Army.

    The stakes are not too high to actually draft the several hundreds of thousands of soldiers we need to fight this war.

    The stakes are not to high to ask for any kind of economic sacrifice by the American people.

    But the stakes are high enough to ask the American People to give up their freedom from unwarranted search and seizure, their freedom of speech and disent, and (apparantly according to Coach Hastert) their freedom to elect representatives other than toadies to Boy George II.

    Those things Boy George II will ask for. Nothing to make us safer, just more to make us less free.

  • So he doesn’t have a plan, just a goal that he tells his commanders “you achive!” — Ohioan, @#2

    libraNot jut that… If my understanding of English (admittedly, not my first language) holds, he’s saying that his commanders should achieve the goal *first*, and only afterwards will he give them the necessary tools…

    That’s how I interpreted it.

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