National Right to Life knows who it hates, but is unsure who it likes

At the National Right to Life Committee’s annual convention just outside DC this week, it was abundantly clear which presidential candidate the activists didn’t like. But the group’s support for his opponent is considerably less clear.

From the speakers to the rank and file at the Arlington, Va., event, there was near-unanimity Thursday in their strong opposition to the presumptive Democratic nominee.

Audience members vigorously applauded as former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson delivered an extended attack on Obama in his keynote address. Calling the Illinois senator a “last gasp” of 1960s-era radicalism and “George McGovern without the experience,” Thompson sternly warned the crowd that Obama would appoint Supreme Court justices unfriendly to their agenda.

Thompson noted that during his career in the Illinois Legislature, Obama opposed a version of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, a bill that made it illegal to harm an infant born after surviving an abortion.

Observing that even the National Abortion Rights Advocacy League had not opposed this legislation, Thompson joked: “I trust [Obama] is explaining how he’s to the left of NARAL during the religious outreach meetings he’s holding.”

Quotes from attendees on Obama were fairly predictable. He’s a “radical,” an “extremist,” and a “nightmare” to those who oppose reproductive rights.

But when asked about John McCain, the rhetoric is far less predictable.

Eric Zimmermann reported on the annual gathering, and the activists’ reluctance to rally behind their candidate.

Danielle Wibeto might be John McCain’s worst nightmare. A 23-year old pro-life Christian, Wibeto travels around the country promoting a children’s book — Justice Loves Babies, which she wrote with her twin sister, Darlene — about a child trying to save his unborn sister from being aborted. The Wibeto sisters, from a small, conservative town in central California and staunchly pro-life, are the kind of voters that McCain needs near unanimous support from if he has any chance of defeating Barack Obama. Will she vote for McCain? “I’m still praying on it,” she says.

Wibeto is one of hundreds of pro-life voters who convened today for the start of the National Right to Life Convention in Arlington. The organization is gritting its teeth and swallowing hard to support John McCain, who has supported embryonic stem cell research and fiercely criticized George Bush in 2000 for his refusal to alter the Republican Platform to support abortions resulting from rape and incest. While the movement’s leadership is toeing the party line, many of the delegates here expressed doubts–most of them will still vote for McCain, but some will stay home and others will likely not organize for the Arizona senator the way they did for Bush. (When I ask delegates here about their feelings on McCain, most just give a terse smile and say, “I’ll vote for him.”) If the Republican candidate for president has to spend time and money reassuring and energizing delegates to the National Right to Life Convention, he’s not in good shape.

Over at the official McCain campaign booth, a flat-screen TV shows a video of McCain being interviewed about his time in Vietnam. The host asks him if he prayed to God while in Vietnam. “No,” McCain answers. “When I was flying in combat I was rendering unto Caesar.” His answer reveals a lot about McCain’s difficulty connecting to the Christian right. Though quoting scripture, McCain’s was a poor impersonation of President Bush, who has perfected the art of paying clever lip-service to the pro-life movement by speaking of his own faith and turning to God for counsel.

And so a lingering sense of resignation permeates the convention hall, most notably in President Wanda Franz’s address to the general assembly. In a speech full of the movement’s trademark rhetoric — “the blood of the innocent is still spilt over a million times each year” — Franz tepidly urges the audience to set aside their qualms about McCain. “The perfect is the enemy of the good,” she says, employing odd rhetoric for a movement that thinks and speaks in moral absolutes.

It sounds like McCain still has quite a bit of work to do, doesn’t it?

1960s-era radicalism?

George McGovern?

Has anyone else noticed that the Republicans all seem to be running against the 1960’s – again? I guess it’s better for them than talking about what is going on in America today.

Senator Thompson, I voted for George McGovern. George McGovern was a hero of mine. Senator, Barak Obama is no George McGovern, and John McCain isn’t as crafty as Richard Nixon.

McCain might be as dirty a fighter as Nixon, but not as crafty.

  • George McGovern volunteered to serve in the Army Air Corps during WWII. He flew 35 missions in B-24 Liberator bombers and earned the Distinguished Flying Cross for saving his crew by successfully landing his damaged bomber on a small island off the coast of Yugoslavia.

    So much for military service being respected or being a qualifier for the presidency.

    Obama could have single handedly captured 200 Taliban on network television using only a Louisville Slugger and a can opener and the Republicans would explain how that still didn’t count but that McCain’s noble service did count.

  • One guesses the argument is; Abortion “kills” a developing human. That’s the first part of the question. Poor life opportunities, also kills a developing human.
    Poor government leadership very well is the primary problem. Basically the tolerated levels of domestic stress are also primary in this category.

    Actually if one computes this and sums up the totals along with poor rehabilitation for suicides, domestic violence, rape, molestation, mental illness, robbery, murder, war refuges, wounded, tortured, alcohol and drug abuse currently going on in American civic principals would and should consider the same as partial birth abortion as anyone of these categories, not just the time before leaving the womb. But include the time well beyond the womb.

    Many will argue that point with me, then for those who believe in “Being Born Again” or finding religion, and to progress to enjoy your new found experience even to or at the time you may expire, I would dare suggest that the lord would ask, what say you? Those who don’t believe in God could just happily have abortions, then perhaps find religion later huh? There is a very solid truth abused by many Institutions and our leadership, not just the term partial birth but all birth is important.

    Could we some what guess that raging hormones and contemporary marketing propaganda for bigger and longer erections also encourages an increased rate of unwanted pregnancies. Promiscuous television, music lyrics, movies, party culture, advance educational environments, group ethics, cults, drugs and pornography lead to an open ended free for all in pregnancies. Sure does!

    Let us also assume legal and cultural medical health benefits fail to cover what is needed for preventive procedures. Like awareness programs. Adult maturity advisories, not just parent based but especially professional assistance programs that can be and should be totally secular. Or, the circle of cultural insanity continues. That’s why Universal Health Care is needed. Just like America needs clean water, just like America needs clean energy to do God’s work, Just like America needs good food to eat, just like America needs clean air to breath, Just like America needs good government, Just like America needs a good economy, Just like America needs a better educational system. Please people we are not addicted to these things, we need them to live.

    Faith based initiatives should stay focused on spiritual well being and understanding. Obama and the Bible thumpers should stick to that.

  • “National Right to Life” suggests such a wonderful ethos — till one discovers it’s virtually limited to embryos.

    What if, at a future time when genetic research, lets say, has progressed to the point where it can predict a murderer or rapist in the making — would the National Right to Lifers consider abortion as a economically and socially preferable option to a long drawn-out apprehension, trial and eventual execution?

  • Echoing the above, shouldn’t it be obligatory for every reporter to ask someone who describes him/herself as “pro-life” if they are actually “pro-life” or just anti-abortion? A few catholics may pass the test, not sure how many others.

  • These single issue fanatics would vote for Hitler if he promised to halt abortions. He could stand there shooting Jews all day but as long as he stands against abortions they will “pray about it”. The majority of Americans support R v W and there are numerous ways for this group to display their activism but have they no sense of irony in supporting a candidate who promised more wars. Does he have to scrape the infants up by their diapers and throw them in front of machine guns for these idiots to see what is happening here by their single issue voting.

    They refuse to support any of the policies in preventing pregnancy (education, birth control etc.) and then throw a fit about how unwanted pregnancies are dealt with. Claim they are pro-life yet support war candidates and the death penalty. Hypocrisy on a grand scale.

  • “At the National Right to Life Committee’s annual convention just outside DC this week, it was abundantly clear which presidential candidate the activists didn’t like. But the group’s support for his opponent is considerably less clear.”

    What? Whomever wrote this apparently got a transcript of the Thompson speech and didn’t attend the NRLC convention. McCain stickers can be seen on every attendee — young and old, women and men, black and white. Rallies have focused on how pro-life McCain is on abortion and the 1,000+ attendees watched a seven minute video with McCain promising to oppose things like tax-funded abortions and partial-birth abortions.

    You really have to be kidding… It’s clear to everyone at the convention — Obama is pro-abortion and McCain is pro-life.

  • (When I ask delegates here about their feelings on McCain, most just give a terse smile and say, “I’ll vote for him.”) — Eric Zimmermann

    That’s pretty much how I’ve been feeling about Obama, ever since the FISA fiasco. Made it difficult, yesterday, to be helping out at the Dem booth at the 4th of July community festival. It’s hard to shill for a candidate, when your own enthusiasm is only half-inflated…

    But, even so, Steven Ertelt (@7), I did wear the Obama button and handed out Obama balloons along with Mark Warner stickers; you do what you have to, because too much is at stake. I expect your McCain sticker-wearing attendees feel pretty much the same.

    PS We did have some fun yesterday, all the same… The Repub booth was closer to the parking lot than ours so, many people passing by our booth already had McCain balloons. Those were white with blue writing, while ours were blue with white writing. We’d stop those people and try to persuade them to trade their blah-blah ones for our pretty blue, Obama ones. If they agreed, we’d let them choose whether to let the McCain balloon “go to heaven” (let it fly) or hear it pop (we had a thick pin handy)…

  • Lew (re # 9)- Perhaps you need to put that in more stark terms for Mr. Ertelt – Obama is pro-choice, and McCain is PRO-COATHANGER!
    McCain (and all the war-freaks) have no right to say they are pro-life. War is not Pro-Life, war is the celebration of death, destruction, maiming, and dislocation of guilty and innocent without discrimination.
    The anti-abortion people would prefer desperate women (and girls) to undergo a back-alley abortion, or self-inflicted mutilations rather than have access to modern medicine. I don’t give a shit about their beliefs (and don’t even think about what’s “dirty language” when expressing truth about such a life-changing subject), their beliefs don’t count one fucking measley bit when they are imposing their will on someone else.
    So, Mr. Ertelt, stop molesting you children and come to grips with the real world.
    Pervert.

  • I strongly believe in Matthew 25. I only see the Republicans being interested in making the wealthy richer, who do not fit through the eye of a needle. I could write pages about McCain’s financial adviser.

    As a Christian, I emotionally do not believe in abortion, but intellectually, I remember the things that happen before abortion was legal. Rove v. Wade was decided 35 years ago. A large number of people do not remember when abortion was illegal. Women without the money to pay doctors that would perform safe abortions received back-alley abortions. Women also used coat hangers and other sharp items to induce abortions.

    Republicans Never Delivered Promised Abortion Law Change

    Why does anyone think John McCain will make any changes in the abortion law?

    As California’s governor, Ronald Reagan signed permissive abortion legislation that leads to many abortions. As a presidential candidate, he pledged to seek an anti-abortion constitutional amendment, but never fought hard for one.

    George W. Bush flip-flopped from his earlier stance on abortion when he ran for President. Bush has had 7.5 yrs and a Republican controlled Congress until 2006 – Bush did not achieve a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion.

    There is a good article written by a doctor that treated the results of bad abortions: Repairing the Damage, Before Roe By Waldo L. Fielding, M.D.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/health/views/03essa.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=%22roe%20v.%20wade%22&st=cse&oref=slogin

    However, not simply coat hangers were used.

    Almost any implement you can imagine had been and was used to start an abortion — darning needles, crochet hooks, cut-glass salt shakers, soda bottles, sometimes intact, sometimes with the top broken off.

    Another method that I did not encounter, but heard about from colleagues in other hospitals, was a soap solution forced through the cervical canal with a syringe. This could cause almost immediate death if a bubble in the solution entered a blood vessel and was transported to the heart.

    The worst case I saw, and one I hope no one else will ever have to face, was that of a nurse who was admitted with what looked like a partly delivered umbilical cord. Yet as soon as we examined her, we realized that what we thought was the cord was in fact part of her intestine, which had been hooked and torn by whatever implement had been used in the abortion. It took six hours of surgery to remove the infected uterus and ovaries and repair the part of the bowel that was still functional.

    It is important to remember that Roe v. Wade did not mean that abortions could be performed. They have always been done, dating from ancient Greek days.

    What Roe said was that ending a pregnancy could be carried out by medical personnel, in a medically accepted setting, thus conferring on women, finally, the full rights of first-class citizens — and freeing their doctors to treat them as such.

    It is way past time to stop making abortion a one-issue decision for choosing a President. It is time to focus on the economy, Iraq war, gas prices, health care—the things that matter to everyone, except the wealthy that want a President that will make them richer.

  • NRTL’s failed strategy of promoting legislation ending with, “And then you can kill the baby,”
    is the reason they are floundering, without a true vision. Read a pamphlet, and kill; wait
    24 hours, and kill; tell your parents, and kill.

    Their laws are immoral and as Notre Dame professor Charles Rice states, once Roe
    is overturned, we will have to work for decades to overturn our own laws.

    Personhood is the only answer to ending the carnage, NRTL’s denial and opposition, notwithstanding.

    Many attendees of the NRL convention this weekend heard the truth about Personhood and
    the commitment of ARTL to never violate God’s enduring command, “Thou shall not
    not murder,” in our hospitality suite, in spite of NRL’s heavy-handed tactics suppressing
    free speech.

    American Right to Life is committed to ending abortion – not protecting the pro-life industry.

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