Newt Gingrich blames liberalism for Virginia Tech massacre

In 1999, shortly after the Columbine shootings, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich identified what he saw as the real problem: liberalism.

“I want to say to the elite of this country – the elite news media, the liberal academic elite, the liberal political elite: I accuse you in Littleton…of being afraid to talk about the mess you have made,” Gingrich said, “and being afraid to take responsibility for things you have done, and instead foisting upon the rest of us pathetic banalities because you don’t have the courage to look at the world you have created.”

This morning, Gingrich, in the context of a discussion on the Virginia Tech massacre, was asked whether he stood by his twisted worldview in ’99 and whether he would apply them to this week’s tragedy.

GINGRICH: Yes, I think the fact is, if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization, if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God, that if you kill somebody, you’re committing an act of evil.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But what does that have to do with liberalism?

The ensuing explanation was as breathtakingly stupid as Gingrich’s cultural criticism itself.

“Well, who has created a situation ethics, essentially, zone of not being willing to talk about any of these things. Let me carry another example. I strongly supported Imus being dismissed, but I also think the very thing he was dismissed for, which is the use of language which is stunningly degrading of women — the fact, for example, that one of the Halloween costumes this last year was being able to be either a prostitute or a pimp at 10, 11, 12 years of age, buying a costume, and we don’t have any discussion about what’s happened to our culture because while we’re restricting political free speech under McCain-Feingold, we say it’s impossible to restrict vulgar and vicious and anti-human speech. And I would argue that that’s a major component of what’s happened to our culture in the last 40 years.”

Remember, this unhinged nutjob was a Republican Speaker of the House — and is toying with the notion of running for president.

I’ve read over Gingrich’s remarks several times, looking for some kind of coherent train of thought, but I’m afraid it eludes me. He starts off by blaming video games and a lack of appreciation for the Declaration of Independence, suggesting that, together, they contribute to violent killing sprees. This leads to Imus, Halloween costumes, and the problems with campaign-finance reform.

What’s more, Gingrich uttered this nonsense with authority, as if it were obviously true that Halloween costumes obviously contributed to an environment in which a madman felt compelled to gun down 31 innocent people.

Moreover, “we refuse to say … that if you kill somebody, you’re committing an act of evil”? Is there a pro-murder constituency in the United States that I’ve missed?

For that matter, I’d be remiss if I didn’t note the irony of Gingrich, all people, holding himself out as the arbiter of social rights and wrongs, given his colorful background.

I can’t very well say Gingrich has reached a new low, because he’s been at the bottom of the barrel for quite some time. But that doesn’t stop my jaw from dropping when he utters such lunacy on national television.

Is liberalism responsible for Newt’s philandering?

  • The right wing has to scream as hard as it can about VT and other mass killings, since they have to distract the public from the obvious role that our lack of meaningful gun control plays in these events.

  • From the dismissal of Imus to our inability to retrict vulgar speech, within about 15 seconds?

    Does he blame cancer for the high rate of divorce too?

    Nice jab, Ethel-to-Tilly.

  • Imus is the new Borck. Oh, the humanity! These persecuted bastards. Luckily no more than 30% of the populace will buy this crap. What % did Hitler have? These are perilous times.

  • “I want to say to the elite of this country – the elite news media, the liberal academic elite, the liberal political elite: I accuse you in Littleton…of being afraid to talk about the mess you have made,” Gingrich said, “and being afraid to take responsibility for things you have done, and instead foisting upon the rest of us pathetic banalities because you don’t have the courage to look at the world you have created.”

    You see, if the Republicans didn’t start complaining about this stuff, then the Republicans might get some political detriment over this from their gun control position. Some person might grow a brain for a second and take control of the discussion about this event from the get-go.

  • He’s partially saying not much is really sacred…that we will sell anything not caring what message the product might imply. But isn’t this exactly what happens when free market reigns without government regulation. However none of this has a damn thing to do with what happened in VA. His sentences don’t really connect or make much sense taken together. He is jumping all over the place without saying anything meaningful and the only sensible response is… WHAT? Guess he felt he needed to say something but I haven’t a clue as to what.

  • Gingrich and his ilk should be embracing Cho as one of their own. Cho didn’t bother with nuance, didn’t feel the need to talk to those with whom he had a grievance, and went in shooting. He acted on his gut feelings, which we’ve been assured over the last six years is the hallmark of a real leader. One final similarity — he made corporate media his bitch!

    Well done, Mr. Cho. You embody everything this country stands for in 2007. If you hadn’t shot yourself, you could no doubt look forward to a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

  • At the risk of conflating today’s two posts, anyone who supports a position by quoting Gingrich has ended the conversation.

    I knew the right would push this garbage. The only surprise is that it took them this long.

  • Perhaps this man, (I am using the term loosely as if he had been a real man, he would have gone in and stabbed everyone), looked at the current government for guidance how to resolve problems and realized that the use of force was the appropriate way, followed by a good dose of media attention. After all, I am sure it is those same liberal traits the current government must have caved in to that causes them to invade other countries, torture people and abuse the US constitution. Naughty liberals; now where’s my Halloween costume, I want to be a prostitute like Newt too this year?

  • What is so scary about the way these people talk is that they feel no need to make sense.

  • Old Newtyboy sounds a bit like Cho Seung-Hui. If you were told his statement was actually Cho’s, would you know the difference?

  • “…if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God, that if you kill somebody, you’re committing an act of evil.”

    So, US troops are evil-doers?

    And it’s “endowed by THEIR Creator”, not “endowed by OUR creator”.

    This silly belief that the writers of the Declaration of Independence meant “God” when they wrote “Creator” begs me to ask, “so why didn’t they just put the word ‘God’ there in the first place?”
    Were they that afraid of offending non-Christians back in 1776?

    “..if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization,..”

    Hey, that reminds me, I need to go get the newest download patch for “America’s Army”.

    And didn’t Newt blame liberals for a mother who killed her two children back in the early 90s?

  • Newt reveals himself to be a man without scruples practically every time he opens his mouth. Here he is resurecting the notion of “situation ethics” (a favorite bete noir of conservatives I knew in the late 70’s), and he tries again to paint “situation ethics” as the sole preserve of liberals. This is all the tip-off one needs to know that Newt is not trying to make sense to the unindoctrinated ears of the likes of Steve Benen. He is seizing an opportunity to conflate the the VT rampage with liberals by tossing off a number of dog whistle terms for his perceived base. His comments are neither designed nor intended to make sense to anyone – including das base. It is enough that they hear the dog whistle. It is enough that he has a platform from which to plant seeds or provide affirmation to those who roll out of bed in the morning believing that liberals are the root of all evil in this country. Note also how Newt makes sure to bring up the endowment of rights by “our creator” apropos of exactly what? Newt, you see, is a man of God.

    He can link liberalism with murderous acts without logic and without providing any evidence because he knows George Stephanopolous does not have the time to deconstruct his BS even if he were inclined to do so. This crap suits Newt’s purposes even as it leaves people like me scratching / shaking their heads. Among other things, I would love to know just exactly what kind of ethics – situation or otherwise – Newt practiced when he sought a divorce from his (first) wife at a time when she was battling cancer.

  • Um. Why the fuck was Newter checking out children’s Halloween costumes?

    I’ve read over Gingrich’s remarks several times, looking for some kind of coherent train of thought, but I’m afraid it eludes me.

    Gingrich has the same STD that’s chewing at McCainiac’s brain stem: GOPorrhea. This progressive, incurable illness is very common among political whores and is transmitted by oral sex with Das Base or The Deciderator (who has Stage IV).

    I’d call it a tragedy, if I could stop laughing.

  • The right wing leadership talks in a form of code that requires a particuliar mindset to understand. Feel lucky or deprived about that one!

  • Newt’s problem with trying to make an insane argument like this is that the crowning achievement of his ‘conservative revolution’ is currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, making a mess of everything he touches.
    So, go ahead Newtie, have at it. Twist yourself in knots trying to blame the VT massacre on liberals. Decency laws don’t cover that sort of public masturbation.

    Meanwhile, the rest of us can blame you for the carnage that is the Bush regime – without distorting a single little fact.

  • Newty….

    Maf54: did any girl give you a haandjob this weekend

    Teen: lol no

    Teen: im single right now

    Teen: my last gf and I broke up a few weeks agi

    Maf54: are you

    Maf54: good so your getting horney

    Teen: lol…a bit

    Maf54:did you spank it this weekend yourself

  • beckya57 : we have meaningful gun control laws on the books. The loophole that resulted in the ruling against the gunman in 2005 not being reported to the Instant back ground check center should be fixed. Unfortunately though even if that hole didn’t exit the county already said it didn’t have the money to report it anyway. Better funding and better enforcement would do a world of wonders right now.

  • I really wish there was an edit feature 🙁

    Newt is batshit insane so only the 28% hardcore base even listens to him anymore..

  • Chuckles – “What if you dress up like Newt for Halloween?”

    Where can I get a talking asshole costume?

  • You mention the absurdity of the parallels Gingrich draws between the shooting spree of a madman and halloween, video games, McCain-Feingold, suppression of hate speech, and so on.

    But Gingrich still never made a connection to a liberal cause. I think his followers are suppose to somehow just know it’s there because he inferred it.

    If he runs for president, I see this rhetoric as a harbinger to his stumping style, which will be similar to what his 1988 GOPAC campaign promoted all GOP candidates to do.

    The leaked memo from that time should be dug up and kept at hand to illustrate Gingrich’ tactic. Which really insults the intelligence (rightly?) of of the voters he woos.

  • ***At the risk of conflating today’s two posts, anyone who supports a position by quoting Gingrich has ended the conversation.***
    ———————————–JoeW

    Oh, you are so-ooo not getting away with that one, Joe. The only way this—or any other Newt convo—ends is when CNN reports that Gingrich has voluntarily used his mangy carcass to grease the treads of an Abrams tank….

  • Yet what I’ve read of Cho has left me wondering if he was inspired by Christian right ideology.

    Gingrich seems to be trying to say that the notion most who speak for liberals have that even extreme pornography nees to be protected speech implies a lack of morality on our part — an unwillingness to take a stand on what is right and what is wrong.

    He may also be referring to the self-determinism that became an important point in the left’s view of the world. The purpose was to make clear that westerners weren’t superior to others and didn’t have a right to impose our values.

    I don’t personally like either of these views, and don’t think they’re so closely allied to progressive or liberal ideology.

    But conservatives have been able to use this kind of thing to go after us for a long time now. Gingrich, who used to be a professor, is just rambling on in the same tradition of accusing us of moral relativism. Which some liberal theorists did indeed embrace. And which I think it is time we turned from. If we think that it isn’t okay to leave Darfur to a self-determined genocidie, and if we don’t think that free speech is at risk if minors aren’t allowed to participate in pornography, or if people aren’t allowed to smoke, even though they like to, then you should agree.

  • Wouldn’t be nice if we had a FoxNoise of our own so our commentators could rip this shithead to shreds. CNN (FoxLite) will give him a free pass. I tell ya…it just ain’t fair!!!

  • Oooo – I like the phrase “situation ethics”. I hadn’t heard this before, but this is the true religion of the conservative right.

    If a “liberal” person criticizes something or someone the conservatives supports (at the moment), that person’s character is “smeared” and vilified.

    However, if a “conservative” friendly person does or says the exact same thing as a “liberal” person, the person is never held accountable and when asked to comment on this discrepancy ignores the comparison.

    The big picture thing I notice about “liberals” and “conservatives” is that conservatives constantly points out flaws of “liberals” even though many of them do it even more (i.e. adultery, lie, cheat, steal, nepotism, etc.) yet the liberals seem to maintain a more consistent ethics. The liberals don’t vilify a person personally for their actions but rather criticize the action and demand accountability which then makes the conservative whine that they’re being attacked personally.

    How contradictory is that?????

  • Did you ask him whether he supports a limited access to guns for nutcases like him?

  • Mrs. Pantstreppon wrote:

    “I hope Newt Gingrich runs for president.”

    Hear, hear. Newt seems to be living in this strange fantasy world where he either believes there are no liberals in the country, or that the word ‘liberal’ only truly applies to a few (fictional) stuck up effeminate elites living in Massachusetts that nobody likes anyway. Grievously insulting a large percentage of the population is not, one would think, a way to win elections.

    I’m reminded of a conversation with a conservative friend a couple of years ago, and he was going on about how much he liked Ann Coulter, and didn’t I think she was funny? I told him that she had indirectly called me a traitor, by calling all liberals traitors, so, no. He KNEW I was liberal-minded, but somehow couldn’t make the connection that the word ‘liberal’ applied to me.

    My impression is that these jokers are engaging in what they think is ‘minority bashing’ – there can’t be THAT many liberals, so they can insult them with impunity.

  • Oh, come on. This is more of the same. This is the man who stood up and blamed, BLAMED, welfare for men beating their wives to death. He’s f—ed in the head. Even ignoring that welfare is often the only source of income for women trying to escape violent relationships… BAH, he’s an idiot. Please ignore him.

  • Re: #11. Wasn’t it the prez who suggested we all go shopping? That was to be our sacrifice, to purchase from big business, to make Bush’s buddies get wealthier.

  • “I’ve read over Gingrich’s remarks several times, looking for some kind of coherent train of thought, but I’m afraid it eludes me.”

    Did Stephanapolous say anything about that? Like, possibly, “Mr. Gingrich, that doesn’t make any sense?”

    Just curious.

  • Newt is stalled in a time warp. He’s digging up the 80’s version of political correctness to still pin to liberals (read Democrats) as some kind of hippie “Hey man, whatever you wanta do is cool with me” amorality. Bullsh*t.

    Conservatives these days feel like they are John Wayne in a western movie: they have a gunbelt with a pistol of righteous religiousity on one side and a six-shooter of corporatism on the other. For this argument, Newt pulls out his “we’re on God’s side” peashooter to launch a broadside that liberals are godless and hence without morals, thus the direct cause of every immoral act committed in these United States. It appeals to what he hopes will be his base and they’ll eat it up. That’s is garbage of course but Stephanopolous doesn’t bust him on it. Liberals are saying our national moral code should be enshrined in our laws, not in extramural religous doctrines.

    But the yin to that yang in the Republican soul is the corporate side, which will bow to any industry that contributes to Republican power. “Dehumanizing” is a liberal trait? Are you kidding me? Newt’s corporate side says you can crap on humanity all you want if there’s a buck in it for the GOP, and you can sh*t on all the rest of the lifeforms on the planet too if a Republican can get a contribution out of it. Newt has no grounds for him or his party sticking up for humanity in any sense of the word.

    For Newt to blame a sick gunman’s bloodbath on liberals because liberals will allow for pantheistic views and believe in following our Constitution’s admonition for free speech is pathetic. He talks moral relativism being a liberal phenomenon and then turns around and says our moral decay is caused by Democrats not adequately restricting what his buddies in the business community want to foist on kids while we should be allowing an unlimited flow of corrupting and corrosive cash into politcal campaigns. Isn’t it moral relativism to say that he can accept one immoral act while arbitrarily denying another? Moral relativism sure is alive and well in Republican and conservative circles Newt. You’re corrupting society just as much as anyone else out there buddy. So I guess the blame for Cho should rest squarely on your shoulders, by the standards you spoke of.

    Republicans have a big problem with accepting that with freedom comes personal responsibility to others. This is why they blame people who use what is interpreted as our freedom to own any kind of weapon and then go on a killing spree as the failure of liberals to impose some god’s moral code on our culture. It’s the Republican daddy state squared: you have to listen to daddy’s big daddy in the sky or else. Democrats will say if the law isn’t working change it. The Repubs will say all the laws are fine, we just need everyone to follow additional religious laws, but Repubs don’t say what happens if we don’t.

    But even if “Thou shalt not kill” became a part of the Constitution, Cho still would have did what he did. God’s laws obviously had no effect on the matter of an obviously insane man. But it would be interesting to see who would suffer under theocratic laws and the other commandments like “Thou shalt not commit adultery (busted, Newt!),” “Thou shalt not lie (there goes the whole Bush administration),” “Thou shalt not worship false idols (like f-ing Republican elephants),” ” Thou shalt keep the Sabbath day holy (so long football games on Sunday … that goes for NASCAR, too).” Try getting those ammendments to the Constitution passed Newt. You’d be one of the first busted by them.

  • “Does he blame cancer for the high rate of divorce too?”

    Of course not. Divorce causes cancer.

  • Is there a pro-murder constituency in the United States that I’ve missed?

    Sure there is … the NRA

  • The signs of a conservative with plans for a campaign are rife. No matter what the question, make sure to get in the god references [by the way it would be “our creator” when the subject is “we,” just as it would be “their creator” when the subject is “they.”], and throw in McCain-Feingold [de rigueur for any non-McCain candidate].

    I would focus on the religiosity. To the extent that he’s saying anything, as apposed to speaking a concatenation of catch phrases, it is that it is the liberal protection of speech [not I emphasize, any second amendment issues] which are to blame, and we need a Taliban-style ban on the “unethical” or “vulgar and vicious and anti-human speech.”

  • calvin is in concert with jhm. This is nothing but a cheap, political stunt designed to show the NRA and it’s fellow-travellers that he is ready, willing and able to carry water for them. All they have to do is to open up their pocketbooks.

  • And didn’t Newt blame liberals for a mother who killed her two children back in the early 90s?

    Good catch, 2Manchu!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

    http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/94_columns/112794.htm

    ‘When Susan Smith confessed to drowning her two children in a South Carolina lake, Gingrich was quick to blame the Democrats. “I think that the mother killing the two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we need to change things. . . . The only way to change is to vote Republican.”‘

    Newt’s (and the GOP’s and their compliant, conservative, corporate media’s) job is to blame ALL bad things on Democrats. Period.

  • Yes Newt in the 90. What a guy.

    Here is another Susan Smith link:

    http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=101029

    Here is the story:

    Well Newt thought that too many people voting for Democrats was the reason that led Susan Smith to drown her kids.

    Newt forgets to mention (as does the link above but not the wiki-link), that Smith had been repeatedly raped as a child by her step father. Her stepfather was a higher up in the local Republican Party and Christian Coalition. Smith was screwed up alright, but not because a Dem or two was on the school board.

    This guy has a track record. He has a MO. He used this example without knowing the facts. You have a kid from Red America abused by one of those who Newt who holds as a paragon of civic virtue, a repub party guy and church going man. The kid grows up messed up and does the unthinkable.

    So Newt jumps on a soap box and points the blame at the Dems and proposes a remedy to prevent future occurences, i.e., more R’s and religion in civic life. If there were just more God in civic life and less government, all would be well, the trains would run on time and Leave it to Beaver would be on TV every night.

    But low and behold the opposite turned out to be true. Maybe a bigger safety net in South Carolina would have taken her out of an abusive situation and given her a chance at a normal upbringing. Because we know that the image Newt had in mind in which to remake America, was the reality this kid lived. And it didn’t work for her. Maybe nothing would have prevented what happened. Maybe this is just a tragedy we mourn and take the lesson as it is.

    There is no excusing what Smith did. She belongs in jail. But for Newt, this is just another opportunity to grandstand – facts be damned. He has a MO.

  • I hope the babbling, drooling idiot runs for the White House, and then leaves a debate in a stritjacket.

  • I doesn’t sound like he was blaming the massacre on liberalism, per se. He was simply talking about environmental factors that contribute to a culture of violence.

    In any case, this is the time when liberals and conservatives need to set aside their political differences and come together in support of those directly impacted by this terrible event.

    I’m offering my support in the form of a couple of songs I wrote and recorded as tributes to those who lost their lives at the hands of this psychopathic killer:

    Today in Virginia
    Dr BLT
    words and music by Dr. BLT (c) 2007
    http://www.drblt.net/music/TinV.mp3

    Virginia’s Tears
    Dr BLT
    words and music by Dr. BLT (c) 2007
    http://www.drblt.net/music/VT.mp3

  • Can not believe all the repliers don’t understand what Newt is saying. He essentially is saying that liberals believe in nothing and therefore can not make anything rational without something to base it upon. Liberals live in the civilized world yet act asif the law of the jungle applies. Something happens who cares. Behavior has no conscience its just Darwinian. Good luck raising your kids.

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