‘No clue and no plan’

Yesterday’s big news was John McCain’s “plan” to eliminate a $410 billion deficit in just four years. He didn’t get around to explaining how, exactly, he planned to do this, but the McCain campaign is very excited about the vague generalities it presented the public.

Now that everyone’s had a chance to review McCain’s “policy,” are analysts and experts as impressed as the Republican candidate’s aides? Not so much.

The package of spending and tax cuts proposed by Senator John McCain is unlikely to achieve his goal of balancing the federal budget by 2013, economists and fiscal experts said Monday.

“It would be very difficult to achieve in the best of circumstances, and even more difficult under the policies that Senator McCain has proposed,” said Robert L. Bixby, executive director of the Concord Coalition, a nonpartisan budget watchdog group.

Apparently, people capable of doing arithmetic find it hard to believe that John McCain can cut taxes by about a trillion dollars, eliminate the AMT, keep two wars going indefinitely, increase the Pentagon’s budget, and eliminate a $410 billion deficit in four years. Go figure.

J. Bradford DeLong, a professor of economics at the University of California, Berkeley, explained, “Senator McCain and his advisers want to claim they will balance the budget by 2013, but they have given us no clue and no plan to meet all the commitments he has made and still get there.”

Given how utterly ridiculous the McCain campaign’s claims are, what was the headline on the front page of the LA Times this morning? “Obama’s agenda may not add up.”

That’s not a typo. The moment we learn that McCain’s numbers don’t resemble reality in any way, the LAT fronts a piece questioning the Obama campaign’s budget.

What’s worse, the LAT piece isn’t just poorly timed, it’s also surprisingly misleading.

In more than a year of campaigning, Barack Obama has made a long list of promises for new federal programs costing tens of billions of dollars, many of them aimed at protecting people from the pain of a souring economy.

But if he wins the presidency, Obama will be hard-pressed to keep his blueprint intact. A variety of budget analysts are skeptical that the Democrat’s agenda could survive in the face of large federal budget deficits and the difficulty of making good on his plan to raise new revenue by closing tax loopholes, ending the Iraq war and cutting spending that is deemed low-priority.

Like predecessors who also had to square far-reaching promises with inescapable budget realities, they say, a President Obama might need to jettison pieces of Obama-ism.

Now, for what it’s worth, it’s practically impossible to write a flawless budget document in the midst of a presidential campaign. No one really expects perfection and precision. A candidate can and will get slammed if they follow McCain’s route — basically, present a Magic Pony-style budget plan — but what we’re looking for here is some sense of a candidate’s priorities and willingness to be realistic.

And the irony is, while McCain is engaging in foolish flights of fancy, Obama’s numbers actually add up fairly well.

[D]espite the story’s headline (“Obama’s agenda may not add up”), here’s what surprised me once I read down to the meat of the story: his agenda actually does come pretty close to adding up. It’s really not normal for a candidate’s budget numbers to be even in the near ballpark of making sense, but by the Times’ own reckoning (chart here) Obama is proposing $130 billion in new spending if every single one of his priorities is signed into law, and probably two-thirds of that is credibly accounted for by rolling back some of the Bush tax cuts, withdrawing from Iraq, auctioning emission credits, and a few other things. So even in the unlikely event that Obama gets every single thing he wants, he’d only be adding a net of $30-40 billion to the federal budget.

So, sure, that means it doesn’t add up. But when was the last time we had a presidential candidate who came even that close? Hell, I think McCain’s plan, if you put a number to it, would fail to add up by about ten times that amount. Obama’s is the most restrained, least pandering budget plan we’ve seen in a presidential campaign for a very long time.

Quite right. But what the public will hear is that both candidates are playing fast and loose, neither campaign can offer numbers that add up, and neither are being responsible.

That will be misleading, but then again, most campaign reporting usually is.

But what the public will hear is that both candidates are playing fast and loose, neither campaign can offer numbers that add up, and neither are being responsible.

One shudders to think what the “liberal” press would have done if Obama had, like “straight talking” McCain, released an economic plan devoid of any numbers whatsoever. McCain insults our intelligence and gets lumped in with Obama who challenges our intelligence. Where’s the outrage? Where’s the justice?

  • Why does the budget always get planned to be balanced one year after the end of the next presidential term?

    Didn’t Boy George II promise us to balance the budget in 2005 and 2009? Where is it Frat Boy?

  • We’ve heard a lot about the wholesale departures from Sam Zell’s Tribune Co., which includes the L.A. Times. Who do you think they were? I’d say, the responsible part of the journalistic staff. The rest, like those responsible for this lie in print, are more than willing to march in Murdochesque lockstep.

  • Don’t forget that the LA Times’ publisher is hatchet man Dave Hiller, Donald Rumsfeld’s former racquetball partner. People at the Chicago Tribune couldn’t stand Hiller when he was there; now people at the LA Times can’t stand him, either.

  • It’s everywhere except in the MSM. Just who does McCain think he’s fooling. A friend shouted “Oh sure” when hearing Obama’s plan and then spoutef “Corporations don’t pay taxes…they aren’t people…we are the corporations. He wants to raise ‘our’ taxes”.

    The outrage of the stupidly ignorant. He became silent in the wake of a rational response. Reality…what a concept. And this was an educated bigot.
    In terms of the fairies:
    1)I support McCain..he’s good for the economy
    2)McCain lies and makes stuff up and can’t be believed
    3)
    4)??
    5)I support McCain…he’s good for the economy

  • btw…since this is my favorite site…I want to mention that at Glenn Greewald’s site at salon.com there is a copy of the ad/statement going into the Washington Post on the FISA fiasco which I copied and will take to Kinkos and mass copy for distribution around town and I’m hoping others will do the same.

    It’s really not party affiliated unless you consider it attacks the “Money Party” which is comprised of both dems & repubs.. It’s an eye opener and needs to get widely distributed. Take a look:

    http://www.glenngreenwald@salon.com

  • Notably, the story now doesn’t show up on the LATimes website, except in the “most mailed” category, where it now carries the headline “Adding up the cost of Obama’s agenda” — still strange when the cost of McCain’s agenda would seem to be the story. I mean, McCain was the one who announced he would balance the budget yesterday, not Obama. As was the case with other blatantly misleading stories or headlines recently, the papers do seem to move them from website visibility once the yelling starts, or issue “updates” (cf. MSNBC yesterday on Doug Holtz-Eakins’s lies about Obama’s tax policies and votes).

    However, we find instead a story on the LATimes.com website with the (bizarre) headline, “McCain, Obama in close battle for Latino votes.” I say bizarre because McCain has not been polling very well among Latinos, as I recall, but also bizarre in that the story that follows nowhere suggests that they are in a “close battle.” Rather, it reports that both will speak to a national Latino organization in Georgia today, reports on McCain’s speech text, which the reporters got from the McCain campaign, and then talks (oddly) about Obama’s campaigning among African-Americans. Scarcely a word about Obama and Latinos, surprisingly.

    We know that headline writers are separate from reporters, but the headline the LATimes uses is pretty weird. Also, is it just me, but why in stories about McCain’s and Obama’s campaign, do the pictures usually seem to be of McCain.

    Given that the story text is innocuous, but the headline and picture choice seem pretty slanted, it sure does look like ‘management’ trying to swing a story written by relatively honest reporters.

  • despite my feelings toward murdoch (i.e., he’s the antichrist), i dislike sam zell even more. at least murdoch knows something about running a newsper. zell is just some real estate putz with a whole lot of money.

    the only thing sam zell could do that would make me happy is sell the naming rights to wrigley field and piss off a lot of cub fans. GO WHITE SOX!!!

  • I despise the Press Corpse, the corporately controlled media. My only solace lies in the fact that propagandists ,too, were tried at Nuremberg.

  • What’s worse, the LAT piece isn’t just poorly timed, it’s also surprisingly misleading.

    Surprising to who? I am not remotely surprised that any corporate owned media outlet will say, do, or write whatever they damn well choose to keep those horserace numbers closer and closer (after all, the AP now says pet owners favor McCain over Obama: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/associated_press_pet_owners_pr.php Could it get any more ridiculous?)

    None of them are in the business of news. They are in the business of business; selling ad space.

    Oh for the day when these rags no longer exist.

  • I think McBush has made himself very clear about how he will save money for endless tax cuts – he will cut all kinds of social programs and anything else that might actually help the middle or lower classes.

  • ah, Republican corporations rigging the “public opinion polls” so that the McForrestalFire Republicans can again electronically hack, rig and steal the;Presidential Election, keeping the fascists in power for another four years. Republican criminals have been electronically stealing elections for twelve years. since 1996. Chuck Hegel started things when his own voting machine company “counted the votes” in the Nebraska Senate race. What has been the Democratic Party response? Yawn…

  • MCCAIN SAID “GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS OUT OF CONTROL” HE MEANS DOMESTIC SPENDING! HE MEANS WE NEED TO CUT THE FEW SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO HELP US THAT WE HAVE LEFT! UM, NO JOHN, THATS JUST IT, ITS ALL THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED ON THE WAR AND MILITARY, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM IS, REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN MCCAIN, LIKE GEORGE W BUSH WANT TO THROW ALL OUR MONEY AT THE WAR AND MILITARY AND SCREW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.. IS ANYONE LISTENING TO THIS SENILE OLD WAR MONGER? ELECTING JOHN MCCAIN WOULD BE EQUAL TO SIGNING AMERICAS’ DEATH CERTIFICATE. THE USA IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF AN OVERHAUL, NOT AN EXTENSION OF WHAT BUSH HAS DONE TO DESTROY US. DO NOT VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF YOU SERIOUSLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FUTURE, HE WILL KILL WHATEVER FUTURE YOU HAD LEFT AFTER BUSH, GUARANTEED. AT LEAST WITH OBAMA WE HAVE A CHANCE.

  • If St. John becomes president (grarrrrgh!) and fails to balance the budget it won’t be HIS fault. It will be the fault of all those girly-men, lib’ruls, feminazis, traitors, gays, Democrats, pinkos, and elitists. The Right is never wrong!

  • If Obama gets elected, that will greatly be our demise. All of those wonderful ways that he will tax the big corporations, the small corporations, the wealthy (oh does that include himself). HMMM.. Once he begins to tax the crap out of those companies, where will the companies go to that have lower taxes or wait, no taxes, hmmm maybe overseas, which means that all our jobs will go with them…….. i agree that the lower class should not pay for all the taxes, but, the companies can just pick up, go away, take all our jobs and then where will we be, on welfare, and who will be supporting that, if no one has a job….. hmmm will Obama step up and support us????? NO WAY. Doesn’t it make sense to help the small business in creating new jobs so that we the middle class can afford to pay bills, by not supporting all the people on welfare???? oh what about supporting the people on unemployment — does anyone think of how much of our income is spent supporting people that are capable of working, but choose not to do so — let’s not forget about that, shall we. I for one am sick and tired of supporting people that are complaining about not getting enough money from the government, but are too good to go and be a janitor, or work at mcdonalds, or pull vegetables from a farmers fields, because that job is just not good enough for them, what a joke, but, it is okay to take our hard earned taxes and get nice cars, nice houses, etc. There are people living in houses paid by the government (renting houses), where the rent is over $1,000 per month, and they drive nicer cars than we do, eat prime rib and t-bones on a daily basis, how is that justified, and we pay for them to do so…… I am from Illinois where the joke is senator, and he has done nothing but raise our taxes. If you dig deep enough and use the internet, you will see that all the wonderful things that he did for Illinois were already being put in place prior to that man take his current position as senator, he just followed through with them. worked his way through college, yeah, 2 summers solely, not during the school sessions, and that was posted on cnn website this week, which came directly from one of his own campaign members. maybe read more into what he is saying, not what he thinks he is promising — open your eyes, listen to words……

  • I’ve pointed it before and will point it out again now.l

    the Los Angeles Time (and the Chicago Tribune) are now owned by real estate mogul Sam Zell, a man who proves it is indeed possible for a Jew to be a Nazi, he’s so far to the right. I suspect he thinks some of the Likud in Israel are untrustworthy, and supports the racists who want to ethnically cleanse the West Bank and Israel of Arabs.

    Herr Zell has announced the laying-off of 150 reporters from the Times (now one-quarter inch thick when bought new on a weekday) by Labor Day.

    Those who want to keep their jobs in a decreasing job market are likely to “get with the program.” The program being the promotion of the Right Wing of the
    Republican Party.

  • The insanity of this election….those who want to vote for the same people who got us into this mess yet are promising different results.

    Only a kid would think it effective to post in all caps at a site that already supports what he is raging about.

    And Tatter…comment 15…after Obama taxes the hell out of these corps…is a sure give away of prejudiced ignorance. A fair and equal tax rate is not taxing the hell out of ’em…it’s returning to pre Reagan economics when we had a strong middle class and a booming economy. Swallowing too many right wing talking points rots your brain. Thank God, the country is not that stupid and McCain doesn’t stand a chance to be president. This guy talks like will Obama tax himself when McCain owns 8 mansions already…how many mansions do you need before someone calls you elitist. Tax Obama…lol…it’s McCain who runs for cover here.

  • Maybe people need to do a little more digging into the people they want to go and vote for. If i am not mistaken, i believe that Obama owns a mansion that church goes helped him pay for — so, does that make it tax deductible????? I do not recall our democratic nominee stating anything about a fair tax, so where is that coming from, i recall him stating he will tax the wealthy, corporations and small businesses.

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