No laughing matter

The scrutiny of Hillary Clinton’s marriage has been excessive. The scrutiny of her hairstyle has been absurd. The scrutiny of her cleavage has been offensive. The scrutiny of her clothing has been almost comical.

And so I suppose it was only a matter of time before the media turned its attention to her laugh.

[S]he copes with the pressure by using The Cackle. At Wednesday’s Democratic debate, for instance, former Senator Mike Gravel complained about her vote on an Iran resolution and said he was “ashamed” of her. Asked to respond, Mrs. Clinton laughed before responding, as if to minimize the matter.

Last Sunday, meanwhile, she appeared on all five of the major morning talk shows. I don’t know what she had for breakfast, but her laughter was heavily caffeinated at times. Chris Wallace, of Fox News, first pressed Mrs. Clinton about why she was so “hyper-partisan,” and that drew a huge cackle. (Coming from Fox, that question is pretty funny, her aides said.) But at another point Mr. Wallace switched gears and said, “let me ask you about health care,” and she responded, “Yeah, I’d love you to ask me about health care” — and then let it rip, again, a bit quizzically.

The weirdest moment was with Bob Schieffer on the CBS News program “Face the Nation” when he said to Mrs. Clinton, “you rolled out your new health care plan, something Republicans immediately said is going to lead to socialized medicine.” She giggled, giggled some more, and then couldn’t seem to stop giggling — “Sorry, Bob,” she said — and finally unleashed the full Cackle.

Yes, four months before Iowans register a presidential preference, the New York Times is not only giving Hillary Clinton’s laugh a specific label, the paper is also capitalizing it.

“Seems pretty basic — that’s the way she laughs,” one Clinton adviser told the Times. “She has a good sense of humor about the process.”

That, apparently, isn’t quite sufficient.

Slate’s John Dickerson also devoted a whole piece to the question: “What’s with Hillary’s laugh?

Call it a caterwaul, call it a bray, call it what you will, the sound the Democratic front-runner makes when she performs the actions of mirth are now a part of the political conversation. […]

Matt Drudge posted a sound clip of it, and Sean Hannity raised the pressing question of whether Clinton’s laughter was presidential. Hannity should be reminded that George Bush’s Beavis laugh was such an accurate imitation of the teenage cartoon reprobate he should have had to pay royalties. Like all aspects of the Clinton campaign, there’s sexism in the giggle critique: Women can only laugh in certain preapproved ways. Historically, men have categorized women’s laughter as a way to diminish them—they either cackle like a witch, or they titter like a schoolgirl.

Liberals, always on the lookout for signs of artifice from Clinton, are concerned that the laugh is staged to make the candidate appear more lighthearted and approachable. If so, it’s certainly not working. The laugh sounds forced—tacked on to warm Hillary’s persona.

If bwah-ha-ha is a strategy, an aide should stop it now, before someone gets hurt…. Clinton also needs to ditch the laugh because it has become her tell.

Dickerson treats the subject with a certain disdain, as if this is too silly to devote an entire article for publication to it.

And yet, he wrote the piece anyway, because Clinton’s laugh is “part of the political conversation.”

It’s going to be a long campaign, isn’t it?

Funny how Bush’s sniggering never made headlines, even when it happened during his speaking about Iraq, Katrina, etc.

  • Which is all to say: she is a hate magnet.

    But then…
    what the hell…
    so is Dumbya.

    I’ve revised my opinion on this matter:

    I am all for having a President that 40% of the population loathes and will always loathe.
    A deeply divided America is good for the planet.
    It almost assures us that nothing will be done about global warming.
    That’s good.
    The quicker we get into humanity’s endgame the better for the rest of God’s creatures.

    [Insert Vincent Price nefarious horror movie cackle here.]

  • Well, her laugh is somewhat irritating, but I really don’t care.

    At least she doesn’t smirk or laugh inappropriately like someone else we all know and loathe.

  • My first reaction to “The Hilary Cackle” was that it was the “Al Gore Sigh” part two: a silly issue that would become a real issue for no good reason. But that’d be the reality of the situation.

    Now I don’t know. See, the problem with The Cackle is that 1) it sounds contrived and fake and, 2) I don’t remember her doing that in the past (making it appear even more contrived and fake). So it does increasingly strike me as a strange (indeed, strategic) quirk designed to disarm her questioners and deflect hard questions. It has a “there you go again” kind of effect – but, and here’s the clincher, absolutely none of the charm.

  • That laugh was comically fake and we all know it. It’s more embarrassing that she used it than that it’s being written about.

  • The disection of all things Hillary to an absurd conclusion reeks of desperation by those that oppose Hill. If you don’t like her political position on an issue that’s one thing, but to focus on hairstyle and the amount of skin shown below her chin is childishness.

    It’s points to the obvious question, “does she have something legitimate to laugh about?” Given the insane number of insane question that “serious” reporters lob at her, I’d be laughing too. And when asked to comment on the absolute idiocy of the Bush regime, you have to either laugh or cry and only someone completely full of it like beltway insiders can brook questions about our need to immediately bomb Iran with a straight face.

    Might laughing at foolishness be part of strategy? I’m assuming it is. But devoting so many electrons to analyzing whether it’s an overblown cackle or legitimate laughter seems a grand waste of time.

  • I commented about the “Hillary cackle” the other day, so I’m about to repeat myself.

    But first, let’s note that when Hillary was working on her health care proposal back in the nineties, that old bastard Robert Bartley at the WSJ called it a “witch’s brew.” Now Hillary’s laugh is a “cackle.” I hate to get all feminist on everyone, but it really has been standard procedure to belittle women by referring to them as witches. Dickerson’s piece in Slate has it right: “Men have categorized women’s laughter as a way to diminish them—they either cackle like a witch, or they titter like a schoolgirl.” Sigh. I guess “witch” is better than the “B” word…..

    I think that Hillary’s forced laugh is very effective. If you will notice, she does it when she is being asked a particularly stupid question. Like Callimaco said at #4, it’s a “there you go again” kind of response, but without Saint Ronald’s smooth delivery. But it’s far superior to dignifying the stupid question by attempting to answer it.

    My favorite “cackle” happened last week on Fox “news” when Chris Wallace told Hillary to send his greetings to her husband. She “cackled” and then told him “I’m sure he will be happy to hear that!”

  • I have never understood why the Clintons, as #2 says, are such a magnet for hatred and derision, but they are, from the left, the center, the middle, the press and the media. If it’s not her laugh, it will be something else, and dozens of things at that. Every grimace, every statement, every piece of clothing, every opinion, everything about all three Clintons has been subjected to vicious, and often pointless ridicule for a decade and a half, and it’s going to continue. If Hillary wins the nomination, it’ll get a lot worse, and if she wins the election, Republicans will do everything they can to destroy her presidency as they did with Bill, to the detriment of the nation, and the press and media will feast on it to their craven and depraved delight.

    Historians will never understand how this country managed to wreck the presidency of a truly gifted man, and then went on to elect, enable and empower an utter fraud and incompetent for eight long years of self inflicted misery and disaster.

  • I think she’s got a great laugh. There’s a lilting quality to it that I find very appealing. But I do think she should probably try and use it a little more sparingly. There’s more than one way to treat a dumb-ass question or statement with the derision it deserves and frankly, she’s been overusing laughter to the point that she’s starting to sound a little manic at times. It was probably only a matter of time before someone picked up on it. But I still think a good response to anyone trying to make a talking point out of it might be something along the lines of, “If Republicans stop saying such stupid things, I’ll stop laughing at them.”

  • Laughter that is shrill or not – I’m sure ExxonMobil and BP know a last ditch effort when they see it.

    Hillary and Bill are it – you take it or leave it. Bushie only messes things up – he’s sloppy, doesn’t do diplomacy – can’t build bridges – is a deal destorying one man act, AND people think he’s stupid and on that point they’re absolutely right.

    If Big Oil doesn’t want to lose every danm contract they have in the Mideast – they had better learn to kiss Bill and Hillary Clinton’s ass.

    As for Rudy – he is another dip shit that has NO earthly idea how do anything right – except of course to take phone calls from the little wifey and while making himself look like an total ass.

  • HRC’s laugh is awesome.

    That’s the way everyone loves to be laughing at things-
    Gah ha ha ha ha ha.

    The more you laugh and the less you laugh just for the sake of others, the better. And it’s not annoying unless it counds really, really, bad.

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  • Just pathetic…criticize the way she laughs and label it a Cackel. What is wrong with these people and why do they think the public is remotely interested in this crap? They make it an issue…and then keep talking about it as if it were an issue…and then somehow use it to belittle the candidate. It’s a fucking laugh…get over it.
    Doesn’t sound presidential…can Hannity be any more trite?
    The liberals you point out should go back to when Hillary was first lady and was before the senate committee when she introduced her healthcare plan and listen to how she laughed then…there’s no difference. Now they want to make her self-conscious about her laugh calling it “contrived”. It’s like when someone says you’ve got that guilty look on your face when you know you don’t have any”look” on your face, but they keep insisting an attributing characteristics that simply aren’t there, but they smugly walk around as if they know some secret. It’s irritating as hell besides being just plain wrong.
    Hillary was trying to be light hearted and not so damn serious. It’s known as being pleasant…but there’s no satisfying those looking for anything they can make into a story.
    I liked her laugh, it was refreshing and I hope these assholes haven’t inhibited her to the degree that she won’t laugh in front of them anymore…and I’m a Kucinich supporter.

  • When I heard that they were calling it a cackle, all I could think was that it’s such a short trip from her “cackle” to her cankles

    Come on…if this is what we’re going to talk about, we really need to get out the sashes, and add both swimsuit and evening wear categories to the beauty contest.

  • It’s a sign of her mental health, after having been confronted by the most contemptible rhetorical crap from the right for years, that she’s willing to laugh. Given the shit the Rethuglicans gave her over health care in the past, you have to admit that treating current Republican claims about her health care position as if they were actually serious critiques is absurd.

    Seriously, Bob Schieffer might as well have said, “something Republicans immediately said smelled like poo-poo-ca-ca and was naa-naa-boo-boo, because you are a big fat foofy-head”. I don’t blame her for laughing at the idea of having to respond to whatever the “immediate” Republican statements were.

    And the fact the tonal quality of her laugh is now a topic of discussion merely reaffirms my position that Move On did nothing wrong, because the right needs no actual pretense to build a controversy on. When they want one, they’ll invent it anywhere.

  • Seems fair to me. Now somebody can go public characterizing Fred Thompson’s self-deprecating, immediately-preceding “I-don’t-know” laugh as the Blockhead Chuckle.

  • I think Hillary laughs when a question or statement is ridiculous or the interviewer is trying out a “gotcha'” question. It’s clear to me when I’ve seen her that she’s laughing at the interviewer, not to be warm and fuzzy. I knew a woman who did that to her husband when he was being an ass. It drove him nuts.

  • So her choices are:

    1. Change her laugh. I can’t imagine what would satisfy the dimwits who gibber about this crap. Too high and they’ll say she sounds giddy. Unserious. Ditzy. Too low and they’ll say she sounds too worldly and knowing, in other words, like a well-paid whore. In fact, any change in her laugh will be seen as an attempt to change her laugh which will of course prove she is too sensitive to criticism. Not tough enough to be president.

    2. Stop laughing all together. And get called a humourless feminist. Yikes! Look out! She’ll order chemical castration for all males over the age of eight!

    3. Start wearing low cut blouses so the men who feel threatened by her are too busy checking out her boobs to notice her laugh.

    4. Always carry a dish of homemade cookies so the men who feel threatened by her will like her. Provided the cookies are good and she brings pictures taken while she made the cookies to prove they are indeed authentic Hilary-made cookies.

    5. Keep laughing any damn way she pleases, all the way to the White House.

    I suspect she’ll go with #5.

  • This is, sadly, a phenomenon all of us Deaniacs know all too well. You can laugh wrong, you can scream to fire up your crowd wrong, you can sigh wrong. BUt apparently giving an Alfred E Neuman grin reflective of the utter vacuousness behind it is never wrong in America. Happy days are here again! Lets just repeal the 22nd at let Bush keep on goin’. He is, after all, the President that best seems to reflect the reality of contemporary America.

    (after 7 years and two stolen elections and the nomination of surfer dude instead of Dean and after Gore picking JoeLie. . . I’m not bitter or anything.)

  • I have never understood why the Clintons, as #2 says, are such a magnet for hatred and derision,

    Because they win.

  • I think in Bill Clinton’s case it’s that combination of electoral success and administrative effectiveness that really drove the right wing completely over the edge. Republicans ran for 30-40 years on law and order, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. Then Clinton came along with policy initiatives that dramatically reduced violent crime nationwide, reduced the sized of the federal bureaucracy, and he left office with a healthy surplus in place — and ooh, that made them mad.

    In Hillary’s case, a lot of people feel threatened by strong women in general and all your middle-eastern religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) also have a bit of a problem with the idea at a fundamentalist level. It’s probably also got something to do with the $70 million (in 1993 dollars) that business interests spent smearing the woman to head off national health care.

  • I love her cackle. When she was on Fox News Sunday last week, Chris Wallace asked her, “Senator Clinton, why do you and your husband have such a HYPER PARTISAN VIEW of politics?” She took his question in an burst out laughing, really laughing, (cackling) at such a foolish question. Wallace just sat there with his stupid smirk, waiting for her to take the bait.
    To her credit, after enjoying a good laugh at his expense, she replied, “Well, Chris, if you ever walked a day in our shoes over the past 15 years, I’m sure you would understand.” Then she gracefully pushed right past his veiled attack and got right to the points she came on to make. You have to hand it to her, she is pretty good. I hope she laughs as loud at every attempt to trip her up.

  • The main reason I hate Hilary Clinton is because of her disrespectful demeanor prior to and during a news conference held by then Mayor Giuliani shortly after the September 11 attacks where Hilary Clinton was in the audience waiting for the press conference to begin and she was laughing and joking the whole time, she was even poking other members of the audience. I thought this was very disrespectful, not only to Mr. Giuliani but to the memory of those who died in the attacks.

    The news channel cut to the news conference early I happened to notice Hilary’s performance in the audience. I thought “oh my god, look at her, she thinks this is a joke”!

    I really thought that her performance would be noticed by many and followed up on immediately after the news conference, but I guess nobody else noticed it.

    I wish someone could find that video clip and bring it out now…

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