Norquist finally crossed the right’s line in the sand

Uber-activist Grover Norquist has driven the right-wing agenda for many years, all the while pushing legal and ethical envelopes, enraging Democrats with some of the most inflammatory rhetoric imaginable, and viciously attacking anyone who gets in his way. In many Republican circles, this makes Norquist a hero.

But Norquist is not untouchable. In fact, some of his recent political outreach efforts have led to bitter criticisms from some of Norquist’s own right-wing allies. You’ll never guess why.

Was it Norquist’s controversial outreach to some radical Islamic extremists? No, Norquist has done this for years with nary a peep from the far-right.

Maybe it was Norquist’s integral involvement in a fraudulent scheme cooked up by disgraced GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff? No, Norquist may have violated several laws by helping funnel casino money to Ralph Reed, using Americans for Tax Reform as a kind of money laundering institution, but conservatives haven’t said a word about it.

So, what did Norquist do to disgust conservative activists? He agreed to meet with a group of Republicans in Texas — who happen to be gay.

A number of conservatives are seething over the fact that Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), was the featured speaker at a fund-raising event for a group of homosexual Republicans last weekend. One pro-family leader called Norquist’s appearance “an act of utter betrayal.”

Norquist was the main attraction at the “Grand Ol’ Party,” the largest fund-raising event of the year for the Dallas, Tex., chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans, a homosexual advocacy group within the GOP.

Carla Halbrook, a member of the national Log Cabin board and the organization’s chapter in Dallas, told Cybercast News Service that Norquist gave a “fantastic” speech at the dinner on Saturday night. Halbrook said that during his speech, Norquist discussed “Social Security reform and reducing taxes and government in general. It was his normal message.

“The fact that the group is gay was irrelevant,” she said. “It was one conservative talking to other conservatives.”

Conservatives don’t quite see it that way.

The Texas Eagle Forum called Norquist’s presence at the gay Republican group’s fundraiser “traitorous,” adding, “If he was a serious economic conservative, Grover Norquist would not have accepted the invitation or the honorarium for speaking at a fund-raiser for a group bent on the destruction of traditional families.”

The American Family Association of Michigan more or less accused Norquist of political treason, saying that it would urge its supporters “to withhold their future support until Grover ‘takes the pledge’ to no longer give aid and comfort to homosexual activist groups intent on undermining traditional marriage and the family.”

At the national level, the Family Research Council was equally incensed.

“Grover has spent years working to assemble a coalition of fiscal and social conservatives and his decision to aid those who are trying to destroy the institution of marriage is truly a disappointment and will no doubt split this important coalition.”

Look, Grover Norquist is one of the most loathsome figures in public life. He has no sense of decency, honesty, or ethics, and I’ve long believed Republicans should distance themselves from his vile brand of politics. I’m delighted, to a limited extent, to see conservatives blasting Norquist, but in this case, their motivation is absurd.

These far-right groups don’t care if Norquist hangs out with criminals or those suspected of helping terrorists, but they’re livid if he talks to gay Republicans? Given the circumstances, the criticism says more about the right than it does Norquist.

Norquist is THE most loathsome figure.

  • will no doubt split this important coalition

    Could this be true? Will social conservatives split from fiscal conservatives? Will the Dobson-ites break from the country club republicans?

    Somehow I doubt it. It’s a marriage of convenience that has resulted in power. And power is sooo seductive.

    One can hope though.

  • The demand that Norquist “take the pledge” to protect “traditional families” seems significant. I think religious conservatives resent Norquist’s demand that they take an ironclad oath to support annual tax cuts, and now they believe it’s time for a quid pro quo. If this is a harbinger of a theocrat/plutocrat split within the Republican party, I’m all for it, because if the theocrats believe they’re being betrayed the rank and file will stay home in November 2006 (as they did in 2000).

  • The whole “either you’re with us or you’re against us” thing, especially in terms of such an imagined boogey-man as some gay agenda to “destroy the family” shows just how irrational and radical these folks are

  • The whole radical islamic thing is the puzzler to me. I don’t know why they don’t object to that.

  • Damn. Nice catch. Just goes to show how insane these homophobes are– just talking to gay REPUBLICANS is considered dangerous and treasonous. There will be no treating gays as people even if they are card-carrying members of the GOP!

    Can we officially say that “compassionate conservatism” is dead? (If it ever existed in the first place.)

  • I hope the gay leaders bring a clothespin for thier noses when they meet with the hygienically challenged Norquist. P-U!!

    The ultra-conservatives in America are ideological cousins to the Nazis in 1939 Germany, so why is anyone surprised? Never forget that many gays, in addition to Jews, artists and yes, liberals, were incinerated by Nazis, as they considered them all to be vermin. Intolerance is a polite name for hatred and the hate oozing out of the Republican right is hideous.

  • It’s all part and parcel with recent goings-on in conservatism. True believer/religious conservatives are mad at Bush for nominating Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court not because she’s an incompetant crony, but because they don’t think she’s going to reliably deliver the kinds of reactionary theocratic (oops, make that “strict constructionist”) decisions that they want. They’ve finally woken up to the fact that they’ve been decieved. Bush, Norquist and their cabal are certainly conservatives, but their main agenda is maintaining themselves in power and enriching themselves and their cronies at public expense — not advancing religious conservative causes whatever the cost. They’ve been stringing religious conservatives along with promises that they just couldn’t deliver on, and that is what I think is at the root of this kind of outrage.

  • Norquist talking to hummuh-sekshulls? Someone better alert Rev. Pat. Or maybe the Catholic bishops, who are undertaking their own witch hunt in the nation’s seminaries. I know Bush is a know-nothing, but can all the GOP be so thoroughly ignorant? The American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality (the word itself is a strange testimony to how limited our culture is) from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychiatric Disorders. a generation ago, in 1973 to be exact.

  • When Grover was very young, his father, Warren, who was a vp at Poloroid, would take him for ice cream. Every time he gave Grover the cone he’d first take a huge bite of ice cream and tell Grover that’s what the government does to your earnings. No wonder Grover turned out like such a jerk.

  • But, Ed, you KNOW them APA types are not just a cover for lieberals who are furthering the homerseckshel agenda — they’re JOOOS!!! (Hello, Freud?! Summers in Wellfleet?! C’mon!) It’s all part of the ATTACK ON CHRISTIANITY!

    The frightening thing is, there are literally millions of people who believe this to be gospel — and I use that word intentionally.

  • Hey, I like that ice cream cone illustration !
    I suppose his dad could’ve spit a little bit back onto the cone
    to illustrate what the government gives back us of our own earnings.

  • I’m one of those ultra-conservatives and I wouldn’t describe myself as an ideological cousin to the nazis. (Maybe my Bar Mitzvah would have tipped you off!) Grover Norquist is the only conservative in this discussion. The other boneheads are zealots. My guess is that Norquist figures that everyone pays taxes, regardless of what they do in the sack.

  • In this particular instance I think the Religious Right has a very good point.

    At this so-called “fund-raising event,” Grover no doubt shook hands with any number of homosexuals.

    Unless he was wearing surgical gloves and strictly maintaining a “sterile field” around his person at all times, Grover is almost certainly infected with cooties. Homosexual cooties, to be exact.

    Just last year the journal Science reported a double-blind placebo controlled study in which 1000 married heterosexuals were exposed to homosexual cooties. Of those subjects who received the live infectious agent, a whopping 89% engaged in extra-marital affairs, and a total of 78% divorced their spouses. (Of those subjects who received placebo, 10% engaged in extra-marital affairs, 3% divorced. However, 98% of placebo subjects presented with psychological symptoms ranging from “significant chronic anxiety” to “I think I’m going to start screaming and not be able to stop.”)

    So, laugh as you might at the Religious Right, but those folks aren’t wrong ALL the time.

  • Norquist is an economic conservative so social issues don’t really concern him.
    The right is not a unified group although it votes like one.
    What tax reform has to do with gay issues is beyond me/

  • Let’s face it: The core principle of today’s Republican party is not tax cuts, nor abortion, nor national security.

    It is homophobia. Hating the gays always, always comes first.

  • The American Family Association of Michigan more or less accused Norquist of political treason, saying that it would urge its supporters “to withhold their future support until Grover ‘takes the pledge’ to no longer give aid and comfort to homosexual activist groups intent on undermining traditional marriage and the family.”

    Hang on -anyone else catch that they are using exactly the same language used to describe treason? These guys are starting to take the ‘culture war’ thing a little bit too literally.

  • Was it Norquist’s controversial outreach to some radical Islamic extremists? No, Norquist has done this for years with nary a peep from the far-right..
    Whoa, this sin’t right at all. Norquist has taken extreme heat from the fringy right. Also, the way you frame your question actually shows buy-in (unintentional, I hope) to the Extreme Wingnut talking point about Norquist.

    Now, I detest Norquist and nothing would make me happier than to see his empire come crashing down, but you have to know the enemy to understand how to defeat him.

    Norquist actually reached out – successfully, I might add – to American Arabs and Muslims to get Dumbya elected in 2000. This post doesn’t concentrate on the exact point, but I wrote a bit about Norquist and the load of anti-Arab, anti-Muslim crap that got dumped on his head after 9/11 by the “conservatives.”

    These people weren’t “extremist Islamics,” although I think one or two got caught up in some post-Patriot Act Terrorist hunts. One was even convicted. Anyway, to say that he wasn’t radioactive to the rightmost of the Right is an error.

  • The leadership of the religious right has no choice here. Don’t forget that it was the fired-up homophobe contingent that provided the crucial margin which re-elected Bush in 2004, when they came out in droves to vote for anti-gay marriage referendums in more than a dozen states and checked off Bush’s name on those very same ballots. Rightwingnut leaders such as Schlafly and Wildmon know that the refusal to support anti-gay sentiment among doctrinaire fiscal Republicans will turn off their followers and depress future GOP turnout (and, by extension, reduce their own ability to influence the Republican agenda).

    Norquist’s actions in his pursuit of endless tax cuts have often been monomaniacal and perhaps amoral, but at least he’s no kneejerk bigot, and he’ll likely pay no heed to the fundamentalist crackpots. But damn, it’s still wonderful to watch these strange bedfellows start to fight over who owns the bed and hope the honeymoon may finally be over.

  • ” … Grover is almost certainly infected with cooties. Homosexual cooties, to be exact. …”

    Thanks, Sparky – best laugh i’ve had all day!

  • I noticed that Sen. Brownback is holding more hearings on a constitutional amendment to ensure gay people cannot marry. Generally they only start talking about the “threat” of gay people around election time, so I’m guessing this move indicates the Congressional Republicans think they’re in pretty bad shape and need a new distraction quickly.

  • When you depend on rabid religious zealots to maintain political power don’t be shocked if you get bit by the rabid dogs once in a while. They are in full lather mode due to the Supreme Court and are striking out mindlessly. Just this past week American Girl and Walgrens have become become boycott targets of the rabid right.

    Of course Disney World was a boycott target too and look how much they suffered 🙂

    james

  • “If he was a serious economic conservative, Grover Norquist would not have accepted the invitation or the honorarium for speaking at a fund-raiser for a group bent on the destruction of traditional families.”

    I’m confused… How does economic conservative relate to “traditional families”?

  • I this sort of thing!

    I always love it when upper-middle-class and rich white folks who’ve had every possible opportunity to learn from history — they’ve gone to the best schools, had the best professors, the most brilliant co-workers — get caught in a mess like this.

    Bien-pensants, left or right, always think they can “get along” or “partnership” with zealots. Didn’t work out very well for the Iranian socialists and communists who “joined forces” with Khomeini’s revolutionaries, did it?

    Even poor old Surgeon General C. Everett Koop was shocked by the depth of the Religious Right’s hatred for gay men and women.

    The knuckle-draggers are having their heyday. It won’t last forever. My Persian friends tell me, “Someday, a mullah will hang from every lamppost in Tehran.”

  • From DC: what everyone seems to be missing is the very obvious. Norquist *is* gay. Not a well kept secret in DC

  • The thing about this that hurts me the most is to see someone I used to think of as my friend describing Grover Norquist as “fantastic.”

    Carla Halbrook has been a member of the Log Cabin Republicans for many years, and one of the last times I talked to her, she spoke indignantly about people describing the LCR as “jewish nazis.” I think the aptness of that term is abundantly illustrated here.

  • Hold on a sec. If the far-right is pissed because Norquist spoke at the Log Cabin Republican event, and thus met with a group that happened to be gay, then wouldn’t Bush himself be suspect? The absurdity of this thing is unparalleled.

  • Norquist is not a conservative. He is a libertarian, i.e., one of those people who would love not to pay taxes at all while freeloading on the rest of us for those little things that he actually needs and wants (you know, like police, firemen, highways, levees, national defense, etc…).

  • #7.,

    If you believe in Republican policies then you are a Republican.

    Bad people can be replaced. Good policies are harder to come by. Just ask the Democrats.

  • Norquist is a libertarian who believes that the less the government takes out of the economy the faster it will grow. He believes faster growtth will do more to raise wages and help the poor than any government program.

    We saw during the dot com boom a rise in the wages on the bottom as a growing economy made labor scarce.

    Want to see more people with health insurance? Get the market to boom. It will be offered as an inducement to get and keep labor.

    On the fundamentals Norquist is right.

    The problem is that the Republicans who have faith in the sanctity of their beliefs have given up their faith. They are Hezzbollah. The Party of God with no God.

  • #17,

    Actually the #1 priority of the Republicans is the Drug War and its protections of drug company profits.

    Their favorite scape goat is drug users.

  • Damn, I wish you had preview.

    Actually the #1 priority of the Republicans is the Drug War and its protections of drug company profits.

    Their favorite scape goat is drug users.

  • So Nancy,

    Are you happy with Kelo and Raich? Thomas (a true strict constructionist) voted against the majority decision in both. I’d like to see another of his kind on the bench.

    Scalia – feh.

    As to the liberals who supported Raich and Kelo. Are you sure they are your friends?

  • #17,

    Actually the #1 priority of the Republicans is the Drug War and its protections of drug company profits.

    Their favorite scape goat is drug users.

  • Norquist is not gay. Please don’t insult the gays.

    Alas, ’tis indeed an open secret. Right down to the Palestinian beard he married in April.

  • “…which begs the question: “how can any thinking gay remain tied to the GOP?’ ”

    Because it’s my party too! And I’m going to fight these big-haired televangelist nut-jobs every step of the way. Somethings are just worth a damn.

  • The dot-com boom was a speculative bubble, not the sign of a strong economy.

    The next time someone advocates supply-side economics as the surefire engine of growth, please remind him/her that if you cut taxes, you must also cut spending (no, there is no such thing as manna from heaven). Only then, will we see whether cutting taxes really fosters sustained economic growth.

  • I’d be willing to accept Norquist’s solution if first everything now possessed were divided up equally, so the distortions of our statist plus-un-FreeMarketful past wouldn’t influence things (funny: when talking about how rich we are, libratarians point out that we’ve had a fairly free market; when talking about our many problems, all of a sudden we’ve been a quasi-socialist state since the days of Teddy Roosevelt).

    If the FreeMarket is as efficient and non-{initial conditions}-dependent as its partisans claim it to be, it shouldn’t matter.

    As for Norquist, regardless of what he believes, he’s supported by people who, given their huge current wealth, would make out like bandits if we reverted back to the time of the Robber Barons McKinley as he would have us.

  • “Concentration of wealth is a natural result of concentration of ability, and recurs in history. The rate of concentration varies (other factors being equal) with the economic freedom permitted by morals and the law… democracy, allowing the most liberty, accelerates it.
    — Will and Ariel Durant

    Profit

  • ‘I’m confused… How does economic conservative relate to “traditional families”?’

    Tha’ts no confusion. That’s sanity.

    I have a traditional family. And I have gay friends. And most of them have families. I haven’t yet seen any threat. The people who think that gay families threaten traditional families are stinking crazy.

  • Bill & Don – 11 & 13

    Grover did learn to spit partially consumed ice cream back on the cone or on neonorquists. Moreover, this has become holy of holies in the rituals of fiscal conservatism.

    The uninitiated have no understanding of ice cream as it has come to be subsidised and politicised by government.

    robber barons for a strong economy!

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