North Korea barges its way into nuclear club

Well, here’s a story that should knock Foley off the front page.

[tag]North Korea[/tag] said Sunday night that it had set off its first [tag]nuclear test[/tag], becoming the eighth country in history, and arguably the most unstable and most dangerous, to proclaim that it has joined the club of nuclear weapons states.

The test came just two days after the country was warned by the United Nations Security Council that the action could lead to severe consequences.

American officials cautioned that they had not yet received any confirmation that the test had occurred. The United States Geological Survey said it had detected a tremor of 4.2 magnitude on the [tag]Korea[/tag]n Peninsula.

China called the test a “flagrant and brazen” violation of international opinion and said it “firmly opposes” [tag]North Korea[/tag]’s conduct.

Senior Bush administration officials said that they had little reason to doubt the announcement, and warned that the test would usher in a new era of confrontation with the isolated and unpredictable country run by President [tag]Kim Jong-il[/tag].

It’s a rather dramatic development, which coincides with the election of a nationalistic leader in Japan and a vote on South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki Moon becoming the next Secretary General of the United Nations. The test seems certain to touch off a new WMD race in east Asia, which is hardly an encouraging development.

What’s more, putting the genie back in the bottle may be exceedingly difficult — as the WaPo noted, no country has ever given up its nuclear program after a successful nuclear test.

Politically, it’s yet another embarrassing setback for the [tag]Bush[/tag] administration, whose approach to the North Korea crisis can hardly be called a “policy.”

Since Bush took office in 2001, what kind of progress have we seen on the peninsula? North Korea has grown progressively more dangerous; Kim Jung Il has removed weapons inspectors from the country; the number of nuclear weapons in the country is believed to have grown considerably, and international demands about missile and nuclear tests have gone ignored.

The Institute for Science and International Security released a report in July that estimated that North Korea has enough separated plutonium to develop an arsenal of four to 13 nuclear weapons, compared with estimates of just one or two weapons in 2000. By 2008, the Institute believes North Korea could have enough plutonium for eight to 17 nuclear weapons.

What, exactly, has Bush’s policy been? Walk loudly and leave your stick in Iraq.

There was some bizarre grumbling in July that North Korea’s progress on the nuclear front is, like all of the world’s ailments, Bill Clinton’s fault. We’ll no doubt hear more of the same today. Don’t believe it for a second.

The 1994 Agreed Framework wasn’t perfect, but it did represent progress. Clinton offered North Korea light-water reactors for electrical power, and Kim Jung Il agreed to allow full monitoring and inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency. When Bush took office, Colin Powell endorsed a continuation of the Clinton administration policy, but was quickly overruled (and rebuked) by the White House. Bush ended negotiations, scraped the Agreed Framework, called Kim Jung Il names, and gave up on having any kind of coherent policy whatsoever.

After the Bush White House ratcheted up the rhetoric, North Korea, as Fred Kaplan explained, “pulled out of the Nonproliferation Treaty, kicked out the IAEA’s inspectors, unlocked the fuel rods, reprocessed them into bomb-grade plutonium — and that’s where things have stood for the past three years.” The crisis, exacerbated by the Bush administration’s incompetence, has grown considerably worse.

Consider the bottom line today when the right starts blaming Clinton for this mess.

[P]rogress of North Korea’s nuclear program during the last three administrations:

1. George H. W. Bush: one to two bombs’ worth of plutonium

2. Bill Clinton: zero plutonium

3. George W. Bush: 4-6 nuclear weapons’ worth of plutonium

And a missile test. And a nuclear test. It’s quite a success story, if you’re anxious to make the world more dangerous.

As Josh Marshall put it:

The Bush-Cheney policy on North Korea was always what Fareed Zakaria once aptly called “a policy of cheap rhetoric and cheap shots.” It failed. And after it failed President Bush couldn’t come to grips with that failure and change course. He bounced irresolutely between the Powell and Cheney lines and basically ignored the whole problem hoping either that the problem would go away, that China would solve it for us and most of all that no one would notice.

Do you notice now?

We better.

I assume Rove’s response will be “that’s why we need him there”. That’s why we need to really drive home who was asleep at the wheel, yet again, while they pursued phantoms. Bush tells us only he is tough enough to ensure dictators don’t get nuclear bombs, yet the only one to become a nuclear power on his watch is the one he ignored.

Why is he pursuing Iran? Obviously, it’s not nukes, any more than that was the reason to go into Iraq. So why?

  • The most important thing to note here is that the Sept 19 2005 accord pushed by the State Dept was actually a great success.

    But just FOUR DAYS later, the Treasury Dept undercut the deal by cutting off the country’s access to int’l banking. Bush said it was just a coincidence of timing, but everyone knows it’s a case of the hawks trumping over the diplomats.

    A sad, sad Bush failure which mostly happened last September by Bush’s favoring the neocons. Shame on him.

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15175633/site/newsweek/

  • And a political point I have not seen noted yet: Bush has all the cover he needs to continue the so-called missle defense shield.

  • You wrote (quoting the Washington Post), “no country has ever given up its nuclear program after a successful nuclear test.”

    South Africa did (with the Israei’s helping the apartheid regime). They tested one, “a bright flash”, over the ocean, if I remember correctly.

  • Where’s the 1% solution now?

    I was trolling on HuffPo and the RW morons were already screaming about Clinton. Again, like Stubbs, this is really old news.

    Sending John Bolton to browbeat them was probably one of the dumbest things ever done.

    My instincts are telling me that the NK bomb is more for domestic issues than foreign policy ones. For the past 10+ years, North Korea has been short of food and been in utter misery. To keep on riding the tiger, Kim Jong Il has to appease the hardliners in the military as they are the only thing from keeping some order in NK. The only way the hardliners know is to build Da bomb.

    I feel the bomb is a nationalistic trap. On one hand, nuke tipped ICBMs are a nice deterrant, but on the other hand, it is an expensive costly and resource draining trap.

    It gives the feeling of power while at the same time draining resources that would be better used elsewhere. For a nation that has (or had depending on your point of view) resources like the US, nukes are a serious economic and social burden because nuclear weapons and their infrastructure are so damned expensive and resource draining.

    It cost the US some FOUR trillion dollars (1994 bucks) or the ENTIRE national debt at the time to build their nuclear force infrastructure from 1942-1994. It includes plants, maintenance facilities, early warning systems, missiles, silos, communication systems, submarines, sub pens, attack subs, bombers, airfields, tankers, training men to maintain and guard these systems. From the excellent history, Black Sun: The making of the hydrogen bomb.

    Picture a 3rd world nation that has barely enough resources to feed its people attempting to build the bomb. Ever wonder why China only has some 200 nukes even though they could build a lot more? Because they can’t afford to build anymore. Why does Israel rely so much on American aid? I think that the 100-200 some nukes they have play a significant role in sucking away money. Why did the USSR bankrupt itself into oblivion? Same reason.

    Kim Jong Il and his NK army allies are going to find out the high cost of admission into the nuclear club.

  • The Western nuclear powers should dismantle their nukes. Nukes are evil, genocidal weapons, and have no legitimate place in the post 9/11 world. They are the ultimate weapon for terrorists, maniacs, and rogue nations, but they are useless to the US.

    Who does our nuclear arsenal deter? China? C’mon, they wouldn’t nuke us, we’re they’re best customer. The cold war is over. Nukes are not good weapons for the threats that face us in the 21st century. (Actually, in the hands of terrorists, they ARE one of the greatest threats we face.)

    The world should stop treating nuclear weapons as the crowning achievements of great nations. They should NOT be regarded as status symbols. They should be reviled the way chemical and biological weapons are.

  • Next up, Japan,

    Then, Taiwan,

    After that, South Korea.

    This is assuming that American influence in South Korea, waning because of our reduced prescence on the peninsula due to Iraq, will keep South Korea from getting the bomb until after Taiwan.

    All of this of course pissing off the Chinese. That will teach them to point Boy George II towards a locked door.

    Memekiller, Boy George II is pursuing Iran because they are the “Terrorist Threat”. Because Boy George II has named this the “War on Terror” rather than the “War on Saudi-backed Wahhibi Jihadist movements allied with al Qaeda” we get to be in the idiotic position of opposing the supporters of both sides of Iraq’s civil war.

    Thus the danger of letting the ignorant be in charge of foreign policy.

  • OK well obviously the only way to start fixing what went wrong with NK or anywhere else is to arrange for some adult supervision for the Bush White House. And the only way to do that elect a whole bunch of Democrats to Congress next month.

    Democrats need to get out in front on this. The Bushies have a lot to fear from the truth of the matter (what else is new) and they’re going to be wasting no time getting in front of every camera and microphone and spinning like no tomorrow. The sick thing is that if this were 2002 or even 2004, that would probably work, again. This year I’m not so sure. Certainly it will be a test of the political skills of the party leadership. But in terms of political advantage I believe a tie game or better should be doable if it’s played even competently.

  • “My instincts are telling me that the NK bomb is more for domestic issues than foreign policy ones. For the past 10+ years, North Korea has been short of food and been in utter misery. To keep on riding the tiger, Kim Jong Il has to appease the hardliners in the military as they are the only thing from keeping some order in NK. The only way the hardliners know is to build Da bomb.” – Dan

    Good point. Remember that the first wave of kids devastated by the famines and malnutrition of the 80’s and 90’s are about to become adults, if they can be said to qualify for that term. North Korea keeps a million man army because they know that at any time South Korea develops the will to, they could come across the borders (and land on the northern beaches) and conquor North Korea simply because of the technological edge they enjoy. Soon, that million-man army will be getting recruits so small they can’t carry a rifle and so brain-damaged they can’t load it. What kind of deterent is that?

    That’s the kind of thought that keeps North Korean generals up at night.

  • Lance.

    South Korea will probably be next. In the late 70s, Park Chung Hee initiated a secret nuke program with the participation of many in the Korean AEC. They tried to recruit many skilled engineers/scientists who left Korea to come back for “special” research (among the, was my father, who declined because he had an idea what they were talking about-many of his friends were high up in the Korean AEC.)

    The only reason why this program stopped was because the CIA (remember them, Repubs?) found out and thru the State Dept stopped it.

    It’s not like they destroyed the materials or knowledge to build one as the Koreans have been using Nuclear Power for around 40 years.

  • Don’t worry BushCo.has us covered. He they had the foresight to build a missile defense system to protect us against N. Korea. See, don’t you feel better.

  • Congrats W! Your John Wayne foreign policy has made us even less safe!

    Diplomacy takes humillity and that’s something this administration, and neocon dreamers of projecting American might, has in short supply. Diplomacy requires treating puerile dictators like Kim Jong Il as adults in order to allow them to save face when doing what is in the interest of the U.S. It takes sucking up the ego to listen to another world leader to learn how to defuse a problem rather than bragging how your going to stick a boot in their a**.

    So not only are we less safe due to your ego, it’ll probably cost the American taxpayer (middle class and lower) untold tens of millions to buy a solution out of this pickle.

  • I don’t mean to be conspiratorial here, but what would Bush have done differently if he wanted NK to go nuclear?
    As with so many Bush failures, we’re left trying to figure out whether: (1) he’s as incompetent (or foolish) as outcomes would suggest; (2) he’s so blinded by ideological superiority as to to not see the potential or probable disasterous consequences of his policies; (3) he doesn’t care; (4) the negative consequences of his policies serve some other, unspoken purpose.
    Regardless of which of the above, or combinations of the above is accurate, the fact that the world is left trying to figure this guy out is itself dangerous.

  • With Bush everything is a self-fulfilling prophecy. After BushCo gutted FEMA and packed it with cronies, it collapsed under the weight of Hurricane Katrina. Bush’s (and most conservatives’) response was: “See, I told you, big government doesn’t work!”

    Same thing with North Korea. After six years of BushCo fixating on Iraq, gutting diplomacy, drawing ludicrous lines in the sand, and calling names, North Korea has a vastly expanded nuclear program. Bush’s (and most conservatives’) response will be, “See, I told you, North Korea is crazy and dangerous!”

  • Unfortunately, there are absolutely no viable options here. North Korea has10,000 artillery pieces in cavesand fortified bunkers on the DMZ,and Seoul – the economic and political heartland of South Korea – is well within range. If the USAF had the forces (they don’t) to bomb these sites – the NKs have had 53 years to set this up, remember? – it would still take weeks to neutralize them, by which time Seoul is destroyed. There is no US Army to send to reinforce the forces there, so a NK invasion would work whole lot better than it did in 1950. Any limited strike against the nuke facilities could trigger the artillery response from NK, since this whole thing is about maintaining the regime.

    There is nothing, nada,zip, that Cheney can come up with that will not make the situation worse by orders of magnitude. Bush is left flapping his jaw, and the rest of the world sees us for the international policeman who’s armed with blanks.

    Thank you Republians for your treason against the Republic.

  • “I don’t mean to be conspiratorial here, but what would Bush have done differently if he wanted NK to go nuclear?
    … (4) the negative consequences of his policies serve some other, unspoken purpose.” – beep52

    Doubtlessly he’s been told that North Korea has to have the bomb before the Rapture can happen.

    “Lance. South Korea will probably be next [to get the bomb].” – Dan

    Interesting information, but it’s not so much a race as a set of dominos. Japan falls next because they have legitimate concerns about North Korea. Taiwan falls after them because Japan will be the excuse though China is the reason. South Korea will follow last because they will point to Taiwan as grounds for a legitimate concern about Japan when in fact their reason will be North Korea.

    That’s my analysis anyway.

    I’m just wondering if Vietnam will try to get into the game.

  • The White House branded the act “provocative” and said it expected the U.N. Security Council to take immediate actions.

    Provactive? Just when you think the ignorant, pathetic, craven bastards who have cheated their way into power couldn’t get any worse. A kid sticking his tounge out at you is provactive. (Especially if the kid sticks his tounge out at Foley, Ha!) And didn’t they say over the weekend that a test “would be provacative” and now that it has happened, what do they say? “Uh. Hey. That’s provacative!” Oo, er, bet that has KJI quaking in his shoes. Hypocritical arsewipes is this how you keep the world safe for democracy? Good going fuck sticks.

    Tom C has already pointed out that there are no “immediate actions,” to take (except digging some deep holes to hide in) and Shrub’s finger wagging at the UN is just another attempt to pass the blame on to anyone that isn’t a White House bootlicker. But of course if the NoKo soldiers storm across the DMZ that will be the UNs fault. No blame must attach to the useless scab on a baboon’s butt who went about The Axis of Evil.

    Here’s another list for you CB:
    Iraq WMD – Zip.
    North Korea WMD – At least one.

    Nice try Karl, but we really aren’t surprised by this one. We saw it coming when NoKo shoved the IAEA out and Darth Chinny’s pet monkey retalliated by invading Iraq.

    Damn, I wish I’d laid a bet on this one. I’d be rich enough to vote Rethuglican!

  • THIS CALLS FOR Serious Action! On behalf of Dubya hisself, I am proposing that we immediately proceed with a bombing campaign against Iran, to show them that we will not tolerate a rogue nation in the Axis of Weevil obtaining Nukular weapons!

    …Seriously, though, I am interested in how having a South Korean nominated as Secretary General for the U.N. is going to play out… I don’t think that this will be insignificant.

  • To be fair, NK conducted a successful missile test in 1998. It was also developing nuclear weapon technology during that time, even though IAEA inspectors were supposedly monitoring them, and even though they claimed they were not developing nuclear weapons. NK also claims that they successfully launched a satellite in 1998 — which they didn’t. They absolutely cannot be trusted to act responsibly, or even to tell the truth.

    We may think Bush is Big Brother, but he’s an anarchist next to Kim Jong Il. I don’t think this is a partisan issue…let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that any administration could have disuaded NK from developing nuclear weapons. And once again, I’m sure the UN will sit on their hands, prevent meaningful repercussions from being issued, right up until NK launches a nuclear weapon at the US.

    What’s sad is how much the North Korean people suffer needlessly while Kim Jong Il fights imaginary wars with the US. If he would just stick to governing his country and making sure his constituents were taken care of, he wouldn’t have to worry about US military action, and he wouldn’t need nukes. There is no possible way this works out to benefit the people of North Korea.

  • “What’s sad is how much the North Korean people suffer needlessly while Kim Jong Il fights imaginary wars with the US.” – Addison

    To be fair (and use your phrasology) Kim Jong Il wants to unite the Korean Peninsula under his government. Nothing has changed about that in over fifty years, and it’s not going to change now. The tension on the Peninsula is that there are two governments claiming the right to rule the whole thing (have you ever seen a South Korean map showing the provincial borders crossing the DMZ?). It has little or nothing to do with the belief that the United States wants to rid the world of one Stalinist regime.

  • Seems the NK nuke was rather a fizzer.
    ‘sub kiloton” according to AEC.
    It has been said that no fission bomb has ever failed. There was a Brit fizzer on Xmas island (in the 60s?) but that was probably a layercake fission-fusion-fission test. Amusingly enough, after Ed Teller left Los Alamos for LawrenceLivermoreLab, his first test fizzled (also probably a layer-cake test) It didnt even destroy the tower. Oppie’s guys back at Los Alamos said he’d better get “a bigger bomb, or a smaller tower”

  • I’d love to play chess with W because he clearly can’t figure out cause and effect. Is the nuke detonation a surprise? Duh! W hated the deal Clinton put together with the N Koreans (or for that matter, any Clinton’s accomplishments – after all this is the guy that ended his old man’s term in the White House). The man who call it “nu-ku-lar” weapon has no understanding how this nuclear proliferation works and sticking to his cowboy macho instinct, dissed Kim Jung Il. So what ELSE could Kim do? Did Kim have any alternative now that US is not giving N. Korea anything after what was promised? Unless W could pull the trigger, i.e. launch a large army to defeat N. Korea, his stubborn policy caused Kim to kick out the inspectors and went FULL SPEED AHEAD on development nuclear capability ASAP. Now they’ve done it. W – are you surprised now? So UN can condemn all you want, but the genie is now out of the bottle.

  • Here are facts not inuendo not insult, but maybe this is an “Inconvenient Truth” for Liberal Lunatics.

    May 1992: IAEA initiates series of inspections to verify North Korea’s inventory of nuclear materials. The agency soon discovers plutonium production discrepancies.

    March 12 1993: North Korean Central People’s Committee announces North Korea’s withdrawal from the NPT North Korea says it has quit the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty amid suspicions that it is developing nuclear weapons. It later reverses that decision.

    June 11 1993: North Korea suspends its withdrawal from the NPT one day before it would have taken effect, but asserts IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities are no longer feasible.

    1994: North Korea and U.S. sign an agreement. North Korea pledges to freeze and eventually dismantle its nuclear weapons program in exchange for international aid to build two power-producing nuclear reactors.

    August 31, 1998: North Korea fires a multistage missile over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean, proving it can strike any part of Japan’s territory.

    May 25-28, 1999: Former Defense Secretary William Perry visits North Korea and delivers a U.S. disarmament proposal.

    Sept. 13: North Korea pledges to freeze long-range missile tests.

    Sept. 17: U.S. President Bill Clinton eases economic sanctions against North Korea.

    December 1999: A U.S.-led consortium signs a US$4.6 billion contract for two safer, Western-developed light-water nuclear reactors in North Korea.

    July 2000: North Korea again threatens to restart its nuclear program if Washington doesn’t compensate for the loss of electricity caused by delays in building nuclear power plants.

    Looks like some real progress was made in the “wonderful” Clinton years!

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