Not again

After the incidents at Haditha, Ishaqi, Hamandiya, and Samarra, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki lashed out at the American military, denouncing what he characterized as habitual attacks by troops against Iraqi civilians. That was before this.

The U.S. Army is investigating allegations that American soldiers raped and killed a woman and killed three of her family members in a town south of Baghdad, then reported the incident as an insurgent attack, a military official said Friday.

The alleged crimes occurred in March in the insurgent hotbed of Mahmudiyah. The four soldiers involved, from the 502nd Infantry Regiment, attempted to burn the family’s home to the ground and blamed insurgents for the carnage, according to a military official familiar with the investigation, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was providing details not released publicly.

No charges have yet been filed in the case, which the official said was “in the very early stages.”

According to the WaPo report, the unit in Mahmudiyah had attributed the deaths of the four civilians to “insurgent activity, which is common in the area,” until two soldiers from the 502nd came forward June 23 to say U.S. troops were responsible.

The NYT added that the alleged rape and killings came to light after a soldier felt compelled to talk about it in a “counseling-type session,” after the discovery of the bodies of his kidnapped colleagues, and one soldier has admitted his role and has been arrested.

As Garance Franke-Ruta noted, “Every incident like this is more powerful than the millions of dollars spent by the State Department on public diplomacy.” Given that this incident involves an alleged sex crime against a Muslim woman, I think that’s an understatement.

Those four little bastards who did it not only have the blood of that woman and her family on their hands, but the blood of their two fellow GIs – both innocent of any crime – who were executed in what is most likely retaliation for the original crime.

A firing squad would be too good for them. They should be stripped naked and dropped into the village square where it happened. Let justice be done.

I say that as someone who knows the sound of the bullet that missed.

  • Mr. Bush,

    OBL thanks you for your significant contribution to the cause.

    At some point in this mess maybe you can start to think about what would be best for America rather than trying to “achive a legacy” or whatever you call it.

    Your Boss,

    John Q. Public

  • This is the type of crap that happens when you put soldiers in an increadibly hostile and sensless environment, with a completely FUBAR mission and an utter sense of lawlessness. Hey Dick, I think we found your deadenders. Yet another reason to get these soldiers out of there — for their sake and the sake of the Iraqis.

  • They hate us for our freedom?
    Perhaps our freedom from lawful restraint by the Geneva Convention..

  • I wonder how Karen “BUTCH” Hughes will tackle this problem? Oh, yeah, she’ll tell them that she still believes in her President and that he did the right thing by invading their country and that they should be happy to provide her with a culturally superior life in Texas.

  • After the torture-murder of the two American soldiers, one lovely person wrote a letter to the editor of my local paper arguing that Americans “do not appear to have what it takes anymore” to win the War on Terror. He wrote that had he been in charge in Iraq, the entire area where the crime occurred would have been leveled, and that he would have “destroyed every man, woman and child” on the assumption that they were all co-operating with the insurgency.

    I looked this guy up on the Internet. He is a Christian minister.

    He would have fit in well as one of Hitler’s advisors, don’t you think? — We have now reached the point where the war is not only brutalizing everyone who fights it, but those at home, too.

    George Bush’s gift to America.

  • Unfortunately we will probably see more of this sort of story before we get out of Iraq. War is an example of humanity’s failure at its worst. I don ‘t know why we should even be surprised by this. With the threat of death ever present, and the lowering of standards as to who is eligible to join the military, and an enormous number of Iraq veterans comming back in need of (unfurnished) psychiatric help, I am afraid this may be the tip of the iceberg. Pretty soon some of these guys will move into civilian jobs, probably law enforcement. Then we will know what it means to live in interesting times. Canada anyone?

  • Wow. Here’s a bit of perspective I didn’t know before:

    Five U.S. Army soldiers are being investigated for allegedly raping a young woman, then killing her and three members of her family in Iraq, a U.S. military official told The Associated Press on Friday. The soldiers also allegedly burned the body of the woman they are accused of assaulting in the March incident…

    Two soldiers from the same regiment were slain this month when they were kidnapped at a checkpoint near Youssifiyah.

    The official said the accused soldiers were from the same platoon as the two slain soldiers, whose bodies were mutilated. (link)

    It seems like in some cases US troops are just becoming part of the blood feud, clan warfare, revenge-based cycle of violence over there. It really gave me pause to realize how personal an occupation really is.

  • ***I looked this guy up on the Internet. He is a Christian minister.
    He would have fit in well as one of Hitler’s advisors, don’t you think?***
    Comment by Jeff R

    Oh well, a cross is a cross…is a cross; whether straight, or bent….

    I’m waiting for one member of Congress—just one, who possesses the brutal honesty to stand up before the nation, in front of the lights, cameras, and microphone, and say point-blank:

    “We have found the WMDs in Iraq—and they are us.”

  • “He wrote that had he been in charge in Iraq, the entire area where the crime occurred would have been leveled, and that he would have “destroyed every man, woman and child” on the assumption that they were all co-operating with the insurgency.

    I looked this guy up on the Internet. He is a Christian minister.

    He would have fit in well as one of Hitler’s advisors, don’t you think?”
    Comment by Jeff R

    “Collective responsibility” had, ineed, been something that the Nazis believed in, firmly, in the lands they occupied.

    It occured to me to wonder– given the man’s occupation — how often he says his Pater Noster and means it (…and forgive us our trespasses…).

    OTOH… Hitler had the blessing of the then Pope…

  • That “Christian minister” will find himself in good company.

    From Yahoo News:

    The United Nations Human Rights Council on Thursday unanimously
    approved an international treaty that would ban states from
    abducting perceived enemies and hiding them in secret prisons or
    killing them.

    The International Convention for the Protection of All Persons
    from Enforced Disappearance would require states to keep
    registers of detainees and tell their families the truth about
    their disappearance, as well as paying compensation.

    It still has to be adopted in the U.N. General Assembly, and then
    individual governments would need to approve it.

    The Human Rights Council, a new 47-member state forum, agreed by
    consensus in its first major decision to send the pact to the
    General Assembly for final adoption.

    The treaty offers a first definition of disappearance in
    international law, calling it detention, abduction, or
    deprivation of liberty by state agents followed by a refusal to
    acknowledge deprivation and a placing of the disappeared outside
    the protection of the law.

    It would prohibit enforced disappearance as an international
    crime even under exceptional circumstances, including war,
    political instability or public emergency.

    It also declares that widespread or systematic practices of
    enforced disappearance constitute a crime against humanity.

    The United States, which has only observer status at the forum,
    wanted the treaty to provide “a defense of obedience to superior
    orders” in a criminal prosecution.

    So, the United States, the nation that pushedhardest to implement the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials, and destroyed the Nazi defense of “I was only following orders” on the grounds there is no duty to follow illegal orders, now wishes to implement the Nuremburg Defense for our own troops and agencies.

    We really have lost what we were only five years ago.

  • ***We really have lost what we were only five years ago.***
    Tom Cleaver

    The time may well soon come when those who still believe in the “real” United States of America will have no other option left to them but to “ante up” against the Faux Amerika that the criminal government of this most recent administration has placed upon the mantle of the nation….

  • The United Nations Human Rights Council on Thursday unanimously
    approved an international treaty that would ban states from
    abducting perceived enemies and hiding them in secret prisons or killing them.
    The International Convention for the Protection of All Persons
    from Enforced Disappearance would require states to keep
    registers of detainees and tell their families the truth about
    their disappearance, as well as paying compensation.
    Comment by Tom Cleaver

    If I weren’t an atheist, I’d be saying “my God, my God, my God” over and over again…

    Never mind the compensation; in the long run, there’s no price high enough to pay on blood or grief, so one might as well give up trying. But the subject of the “disappeareds” has been shunted to the sidelines of human consciousness for *ages* and, to see it come up — however tentatively — is like the miracle of spring…

    I grew up in Poland; “disappeareds” popped up often and often, after 1945. In the USSR, they were common since 1917 and, Polish “disappeareds” were common in tsarist Russia even before then. And then there were the “disappeareds” all over the Latin America in all the years I’ve been “mentally conscious” (say, since 1956, when, on my 7th b-day, I came home complaining that “the police were beating the students, for no reason” and puked all over the living-room carpet)…

    For most of you, the matter of the “disappeareds” is, probably, not of much interest but, to me, they’re as important as sexually-abused 5yr olds — it’s a huge boulder that’s been rolled over to expose all the creepy-crawlies beneath. If we — finally, finally, thank God — are going to pay attention to those “lost souls”, and all because of the way US has screwed up all over the map with its selective wars… I’ll bite my tongue *twice*, instead of just once, before I say that GWB is the worst president ever.

    Many thanks, TC; you have brightened up my evening.

    All the same… Can’t let the heart rule the head *or* vice versa… 🙂 When I read (NYT) that Cheney’s condition is considered to be stable, a gusty “too bad” escaped my lungs before I had a chance to think. After I *had* thought, the language was no longer fit to print.

    I really need to work on combating my base instincts…

  • So, the United States, the nation that pushed hardest to implement the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials, and destroyed the Nazi defense of “I was only following orders” on the grounds there is no duty to follow illegal orders, now wishes to implement the Nuremburg Defense for our own troops and agencies.

    We really have lost what we were only five years ago.

    Comment by Tom Cleaver

    I can’t stop thinking about that very thing, so I am glad you brought it up. We have lost so much that we probably will not regain our moral compass and credibility in our lifetime. Perhaps if we could actually impeach Bush and put the bunch of them on trial for war crimes, the world might forgive us, but don’t expect that. Bush and his friends will probably slide into perdition with billions in their pocket , and the world will see a presidentail library glorifying Bush’s misdeeds. His library will have a staff of revisionist historians trying to explain and defend the actions of this monster. That will be on our nickel too.

  • Since when is a 15 year old GIRL, defined as “a woman”?

    Call it as it is. The person in question is a young girl…bas as it is, it is worse to know it was a young girl.

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