Note to Ferraro: For the love of God, stop digging

Former VP candidate Geraldine Ferraro has become quite a controversial figure in Democratic circles this week. In surprisingly bitter language, she argued that Barack Obama is “very lucky” to be a black man running for president. Pressed for an explanation, Ferraro, a prominent Clinton backer and member of her national finance team, said, “I really think they’re attacking me because I’m white. How’s that?”

Last night, doing her best Archie Bunker imitation, Ferraro added, “Every time that campaign is upset about something, they call it racist. I will not be discriminated against because I’m white.”

No one, including Clinton or her aides, have defended Ferraro’s comments, though Clinton has also not asked Ferraro to step down from her campaign role. Given all of this, we probably shouldn’t expect to hear from Ferraro for a little while, right? Wrong, she did two of the national morning shows today.

“I am sorry that people think this was a racist comment,” Ferraro said in an interview with ABC’s Diane Sawyer on “Good Morning America.”

She declined to apologize directly for the firestorm she created when she told a newspaper last week that “if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.”

She told Sawyer she was “absolutely not” sorry for what she said.

On CBS’s “Early Show,” Ferraro added, “It wasn’t a racist comment, it was a statement of fact.”

I’m going to assume that the Clinton campaign has some influence with Ferraro. She is, after all, a campaign surrogate and finance-team member. With this in mind, maybe someone from the team can give Ferraro a call and say, “For the love of God, please stop talking.”

Jonathan Cohn suggested that the Clinton campaign won’t make that call, because this might be part of a deliberate strategy.

Ferraro’s original statement to Daily Breeze, which suggested that Obama has gotten preferential political treatment because of his race, was a dog-whistle to white voters who resent affirmative action. (Her subsequent statement to the New York Times, in which she defiantly defended herself by proclaiming “I will not be discriminated against because I’m white,” wasn’t a dog whistle. It was a huge, screeching megaphone.) Dwelling on that probably won’t help the Obama campaign in Pennsylvania, particularly given the racial voting patterns yesterday’s Mississippi result confirmed.

A cynic — ok, maybe even a non-cynic — might suggest that’s precisely why the Clinton campaign isn’t moving more swiftly to cut ties with Ferraro.

I kind of doubt that the Clinton campaign intends to benefit by having Ferraro make crazy, racially-charged comments to the media. I hope the campaign wouldn’t do that. But the best way to make sure no one gets this impression is to a) disassociate Ferraro from the campaign quickly; b) get her to stop talking immediately; or c) both.

As long as we’re on the subject, it’s probably worth taking a moment to respond to the substance of Ferraro’s latest comment — the notion that it’s a “fact” that Obama is benefitting because he’s a black man running for president.

Relying on my own perceptions, I suspect there are a number of Americans who are excited — if not genuinely elated — by the notion that the United States might elect its first African-American president. For these people, the color of Obama’s skin gives him an advantage, inasmuch as it creates an added motivation to vote for him.

The mistake, I believe, is to assume that these people represent a large percentage of the American electorate. Ferraro said Obama has a “huge” advantage because he’s black. That seems kind of silly. As Obama himself said on ABC this morning, “The quickest path to the presidency [is not] I want to be an African-American man named Barack Obama.”

Josh Marshall added:

There’s no doubt that Obama’s race is the central factor in allowing him to consolidate almost unanimous support from African-American voters, especially in the South. But African-Americans make up only about 13% of the population. And does anyone doubt that that advantage he gains there is not balanced at least to a substantial degree by resistance to voting for him among white voters? Why is Obama running so poorly among white voters tonight (compared to his rates in northern states) in Mississippi? And in South Carolina? We hear a lot about Sen. Clinton’s bedrock of strength among non-college educated white voters. Do we really think that’s simply a matter of appeal of Sen. Clinton? More speculatively, but I think no less true, is that a lot of the Farrakhan/Muslim/foreign influence stuff has more sticking power because of Obama’s race. […]

You might support Obama or not, think he’s qualified or an empty suit but suggesting he’s only where he is now because he’s black is something much worse than outrageous. It just seems obviously false.

And Kevin Drum added a valuable angle that shouldn’t be overlooked:

Implicit in Ferraro’s statement is the idea that if Obama were a charismatic young white guy, there’s no way he’d be getting any attention. And that’s just plain crackers. Charismatic young John F. Kennedy won the presidency in 1960. His brother, charismatic young Robert F. Kennedy, attracted huge support in 1968 and might have become president as well if he hadn’t been assassinated. Charismatic young Gary Hart nearly stole the 1984 Democratic nomination from Walter Mondale. And charismatic young Bill Clinton won the presidency in 1992.

Being young and charismatic has been a pretty good combination in the Democratic Party for the past 50 years. And being against the Iraq war from the start is a pretty is a pretty good credential in the Democratic Party this year. Contra Ferraro, if Obama were a white man he’d still be getting plenty of attention.

Quite right. The sooner Ferraro realizes this, the better.

I think most of us have come to recognize overt expressions of racism, but the more subtle, deep-seated kinds are still damaging, easier to deny and harder to spot. Ferraro seems to have conquered neither.

  • CB, I love you man… And you’re an immensely fair chronicler of the campaign.

    But, there can be no other rational explanation for why the Clinton campaign has not more forcefully come out against Ferraro’s comments than that they think it works for them on balance.

    Seriously. I mean I know Hillary Clinton is not racist. As.Far.As.I.Know, But…

    This latest defiance to strongly condemning this absurdity should make it absolutely clear what’s going on here.

  • I doubt that Senator Clinton will ask Ms. Ferraro to “stop talking”. I was born and raised in NE Pennsylvania. Ms. Ferraro’s comments, intentional or not, will resonate with and help animate long held racist feelings against Affirmative Action, e.g. a working class white person was/is being passed over by a less worthy Black person. I think that Ms. Ferraro’s comments will help increase Senator Clinton’s vote…at least back in my neck of the PA woods.

  • Maybe this will cause a big group of the super delegates to either get off/or jump the fence. It could cause a rush to Obama’s side that will capsize her boat.

  • Obama should start hammering on the fact that Clinton insisted Powers resign (which she did) but is not making the same demand of Ferraro (and she hasn’t).

    Hypocrisy of this magnitude shouldn’t be allowed to go unchallenged.

  • With this in mind, maybe someone from the team can give Ferraro a call and say, “For the love of God, please stop talking.”

    The longer it goes on without this call and her dismissal, the more the Clinton campaign begins to own these statements.

    Power ‘resigned’ in a nano-second.

    I was equally excited about electing a woman or an African American this time, but neither candidate was my first choice, and ultimately, those unique attributes about each candidate held no sway in my decision.

    It all came down to class, for me.

  • I grew up in Central PA (outside of Harrisburg) and see much the same thing as you see in NE, Claire. People generally get along surprisingly well across racial lines in the city itself, but once you get into the suburbs the anger ramps up quick. The whole affirmative action thing is the most often-cited reason, usually from people working in all-white offices and such. Really seems like the safest way for them to channel their anger without feeling like too much of a bigot.

    At this point, I don’t think we can doubt that Ferraro’s comments are intended to be inflammatory and she’ll keep stoking them until the PA primary’s over. It’s like the classic fight between siblings where one kid punches the other, then threatens to tell if the one hit punches back.

    Clinton constantly baits Obama with dog-whistle racism, then accuses him of being hyper-sensitive if he calls her on it. Nice little system she’s got there, should result in quite a few burned bridges.

  • When I was growing up in the fifties, it was sometimes said that people of mixed race would be rejected by both sides and would therefore be doomed to failure. So when I see someone like Tiger Woods, Alexander Siddig or Barack Obama NOT being held back from where their talent, intelligence and skills take them, it does make me happy.

    The absurd part is suggesting I’d vote for Barack Obama for no other reason. That is insulting to me.

  • Being young and charismatic has been a pretty good combination in the Democratic Party for the past 50 years.

    One more…we had a young and charismatic white guy as our Vice Presidential candidate just four years ago. Not at the top of the ticket, but still relevant.

  • PLEASE STOP STOKING A ‘LYNCH MOB’ MENTALITY: If/when Obama chooses a white v-p (with a long resume) wouldn’t that give weight to Ferraro’s comments? African-American’s have to be walking on air these days – Pander bear! Aren’t you are exhausting the over-the-top rhetoric early in the game? What happens if/when someone really insults Obama? Like with (some) defenders of Mohammed, all that would be left is murderous retaliation.

    The Afri’tude is breathtaking. Yes, blacks were brought to this country against their will to work as slaves. But a bloody Civil War was fought to remedy that. And yes MLK was assassinated, but so were Kennedy’s. And yes there is exploitation; But today it’s mostly economic – not racial. The reaction to Ferraro’s comment highlights (again) the issue of black humility. This country makes a tremendous effort (and investment) to be inclusive. But instead of any “thank you’s” there’s often just more lashing out…We are ALL blessed to be here [Period – Full Stop]

    BARACK’S AGENDA: Two terms…book deals…California estate. Lobbyist will yawn…Wages will rise – Prices will rise more…Islam will expand…Earth will warm…Bush will smile and say, “Welcome to the club ‘Bama.”

    THE ‘GROWN-UPS’ GAME: As our environment continues to deteriorate corporations, governments and wealthy individuals will fund the construction of elaborate closed-system bubble fortresses. So that by the year 2150 approximately ~4% of Earth’s human population will live in these climate controlled communities. Life inside will continue to advance and evolve in sharp contrast to harsher conditions outside where population and industrial capacity could decline by more than 50%.

    Runaway global warming will likely result in ecological, financial and social dislocations of major proportions. We are seemingly already in the middle of a mass extinction. But this is not viewed as a threat to advanced human civilzation because the technology to sustain life in hostile environments gets more powerful daily.

    If civilization were going to heed the warnings by experts about the dangers of climate change we should have taken meaningful action decades ago. Instead we’ve been urged to just keep shopping. And so today instead of shutting down coal-fired generating plants, the world adds new ones plus millions of gasoline powered vehicles. Also the planet continues to lose ~6 sq. miles of (lung capacity) forest cover daily.

    Nuclear (fusion) power eventually should displace carbon fuels; Then as cheap electricity and (desalinized) water become more plentiful things can start to stabilize. However, if in place of TNT we started using WMD’s, full recovery of the Earth’s ecosystems will become much more problematic.

  • ***BY THE WAY AFERICAN AMERICANS DID NOT SUPPORT OBAMA IN THE BEGINNING :

    THEY USED TO SAY BILL CLINTION WAS THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT

    IT WAS ONLY AFTER THEY TRIED TO BRING OBAMA’S RACE INTO THIS THAT BLACKS SHIFTED SUPPORT

    Hillary’s greatest hits:

    1. Obama = Ken Starr

    2. Obama not a muslim (as far as I know)

    3. Ferraro “Obama’s only around because he’s black”

    4. McCain has more experience than Obama

    Enough. Hillary needs to go away. She really is turning into a monster right in front of our eyes.

  • Obama being black is just a feel good bonus. Given the alternatives, once Edwards was gone, for many whites, imho, Obama was the obvious choice for the potential of real change. He is talented enough to generate expectations at the very least as good as Clinton’s and far surpassing McBush’s. If he was not in the field, how much lower would voter turnout be?

  • I think it is entirely a conscious decision by the Clinton campaign to have an “outsider” say things they won’t. It’s entirely “in character” for any Clinton campaign. And yes, it does target those whites (an awful lot of whom are “non-college educated” and many of whom are “college-educated”) who do indeed think they have been “discriminated against for being white” with affirmative action. This is a shout-out to the “Reagan Democrats” that they finally have a “Democrat” they can vote for.

    There are a lot of White American Males – including Democrats – who do indeed feel “put upon” (those who feel “put upon” by femal affirmative action as well as black affirmative action are Republicans). Sad to say but nonetheless true.

  • Of course Clinton wants this to keep going? She could have muzzled Ferraro immediately after her first comment. Instead she let her keep making appearances and uttering increasingly inflammatory remarks.
    Ferraro is doing what Clinton has been trying to do the whole campaign: Make Barack Obama the black candidate. She knows that is the ONLY chance she has of convincing superdelegates to go against the will of the voters. This much is obvious.
    By doing this, Hillary is virtually ensuring I won’t vote for her in November. It’s truly pathetic. These people have no soul. They are not Democrats.

  • Clinton constantly baits Obama with dog-whistle racism, then accuses him of being hyper-sensitive if he calls her on it. Nice little system she’s got there…

    Agreed, but with a caveat. Hillary doesn’t accuse Obama of being hyper-sensitive. Hillary accuses Obama of playing the race card. That is a nice little system she’s got there.

  • Looks like Ferraro’s statements are working on bloggingRfun big time. Hey dude, go back to RedState or NewsBusters where people might actually give a $hit about what you have to say.

  • C’mon folks. America has a chance to make history. A woman or African American has a “legitimate” chance at becoming President.

    Let’s set aside all of the racism and misogyny and compare the Senate voting records of Clinton, Obama, and McCain, shall we.

    Let’s see. They all voted for that very patriotic legislation known as the “Patriot” Act–that says a lot about their patriotism right there. They all voted for $500+ billion for the continued U.S. Military Occupation of Iraq. They all voted against immediate withdrawal from Iraq. They all voted to give the President the authority to declare martial law for “other conditions” (as all good despots do) and use the National Guard as a police force within the United States. They all voted for a micro-chipped national ID card (REAL ID) starting in 2009.

    Obama, Clinton, and McCain have demonstrated how the nation can come together in bispartisan ways.

    Those are the kind of things that this election should be about. Not about racist or misogynistic slurs by either side. We should try to keep it on the high road, especially Fox News Political Analysts, like Geraldine Ferraro.

  • 6. On March 12th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, doubtful said:

    It all came down to class, for me.

    That’s it in a nutshell.

  • Geraldine Ferraro is the ULTIMATE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION RECIPIENT!

    Tip O’Neal gave her a leadership position because he wanted to promote a FEMALE.

    She was selected as the Vice Presidential candidate because she was FEMALE.

    She is now just coming across as another shrill Clintonista who will say or do anything to get the nomination for Billary. The horrible part is that they appear willing to destroy the country and destroy the dimocratic party if they can’t get their way.

    Remember the Billary motto “We ain’t gonna let no voters steal my nomination.”

    4 yrs Bush I + 8 yrs Clinton + 8 yrs Bush Lite = 20 years of the screwing of the American worker
    NO MORE! Bush-Clinton fatigue is real for a large portion of the American population.

    This nomination process has reached the point where there remain NO MEANS by which Hillary can get the nomination that will appear legitimate. Is the goal to destroy Obama so that McCrap will win in November and Hillary can run again in 2012?

  • I’m going to ignore the racist or not question for the moment and ask if the statement had any merit? I think the fact that Obama is African-American has helped and hurt in equal measures. OK. The cynic in me says maybe hurt a bit more than helped. On the other hand my state now has an African-American Governor and this is (was?) one racist state. I’m going to vote for Obama (if he is the nominee) partly because of it. I believe it could only enhance the image of this country in the eyes of the rest of the world. And I truly believe he is qualified for the job.

    I’ve always had immense respect for Geraldine and I know she doesn’t think the initial quote was racist but the subsequent responses haven’t done anything to strengthen her claim. She should just shutup or dispassionately explain what she meant in the first place. CB is correct. When you find yourself in a hole, just stop digging.

  • This is just as vapid as a suggestion of infairness because Clinton pulls in votes from women because of her gender. That’s also true, but so what? It’s a basic assumption that does not require amplification. If either candidate could win the nomination and subsequent election by pandering only to their base – he to blacks, and she to women, they likely would. Neither could, and therefore they must both broadcast a message with broad and inclusive appeal. If Hillary started tossing around campaign promises like, “vote for me, and within 6 months of my taking office, there won’t be a single dick-sporting individual in a supervisory position throughout these great United States”, she’d be toast. Still, there’s no doubt there would be a voting base that loved it. Just not big enough. Similarly, if Obama promised to appoint only black people to run the show, he’d be history. Again, not enough voters would embrace that ideal.

    Both candidates have been very careful to avoid pandering to the subset to which they belong. A few people have suggested Obama has “anti-white” messages on his website, but I think you’d have to be pretty damned pro-white to make such a leap. Hillary Clinton is careful to include men in her appeals, and to avoid making any comments that could be construed as anti-male.

    Ferraro is just bitter at the realization an admittedly historic candidate is not going to be able to use their unique quality to maximum advantage because they are up against an equally historic and unique candidate. Oh, and because that candidate is winning.

  • Clinton is using her surrogates to court the racist votes in PA. Obviously. And who do they send? An older white woman, who (as everyone knows) got her chance to be president because she was a woman. Proof of that is that she has done very little to show us another reason ever since. If she was a man, would she have gotten the VP slot from Mondale?

    The hypocrisy makes my head hurt.

    Someone in leadership who can do math needs to pull Hillary’s plug.

    NOW.

  • Ms.Ferrarro’s comment was racist, pure and simple. An apology is owed. The Clintons campaign is looking very racist as well, especially since nothing has been done to ameiliorate the racist issue raised by Geraldine Ferraro. Clintons and Ferrarro. Now hear this . THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY IS HERE.

  • Ms.Ferrarro’s comment was racist, pure and simple. An apology is owed. The Clintons campaign is looking very racist as well, especially since nothing has been done to ameiliorate the racist issue raised by Geraldine Ferraro. Clintons and Ferrarro. Now hear this . THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY IS HERE.

  • In one of the more pathetic ironies of campaign ’08, Clinton backer and 1984 vice presidential contender Geraldine Ferraro in essence branded Barack Obama’s an affirmative action candidacy. Reprising her 1988 statement that “if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race,” Ferraro claimed, “if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.” Democrats could be forgiven for expecting more from Ferraro, especially given the National Organization for Women’s essential role in securing Mondale’s VP slot for a woman.

    For the history, see:
    “Ferraro ’84 Flashback: NOW Pressure Secured Mondale VP Slot.”

  • Being a guy and with a guy’s sensibility on how to fix things that are broken, I see this as a perfect moment to break out the duct tape. How about it Hillary? I could take care of your little PR problem in a flash.

    Geraldine needs to get off her cloistered perch and look around. Obama isn’t “black,” he is today’s face of America: a person of mixed culture and ethnicity. This nation has moved beyond its melting pot being Italians marrying Germans to a truly global cultural mix. Call him the healthier gene pool candidate or the less inbred candidate instead.

    Geraldine needs to fess up that her whine is really “Hey, I’m backing the white candidate! We’re SUPPOSED to win this thing!” She is of that old school of Democrats that was very good at losing elections and she’s trying to bring that “magic” to Hillary’s campaign. Leave your money at the door Geraldine and just go home.

  • Honestly, when the primary season first started, I was happy with all our candidates. A strong woman, an emminently qualified Hispanic and an equally strong African- American candidate were all viable. And to be honest, I could even vote for a Keebler Elf (Kuchinich, natch.) who had the most prgressive and peace-loving platform of them all. And still my first choice was the white southern progressive fighter. And then there were two. And I would have been happy with either one of them, even though I voted for Obama. I can’t say that now, however. And I can’t see how what Hillary could do or say until Nov to make me feel good about voting for her, other than she isn’t John McCain. And right now, if I do vote for her in Nov, it’ll be a vote against the Republicans, not for her. Of course, all down ticket dems will get my vote.

    Olbermann is doing one of his special comments tonight in respect to the entire Clinton/ Ferraro mess. I imagine that will be one of his more of his biting, scathing diatribes which is usually reserved (and deserved) for the Republicans.

  • I used to respect Rep. Ferraro immensely. Recently she’s been showing less judgment than Elliot Spitzer (also from New York). I would love for her to apologize for her antagonizing comments and STFU, but I fear that her comments are part of an intentional campaign to stoke racist sentiments ahead of the PA primary.

  • This is an obvious strategy aimed at alarming the Archie Bunker White vote that blacks are trying to take over the world. It’s disgusting, racist and just what I have come to expect from the Clinton’s. I’m a life long democrat and in the fall I will stay home before I pull the lever for Mrs.Clinton the biggot of New York.

  • My response to Geraldine Ferraro: after the last 8 years of watching the Republican party turn this country into a rerun of Thunderdome, I don’t care what’s between someone’s legs or what color they are; I DO, however, care about what goes on between their EARS.

    For this reason alone, it comes as no surprise why Geraldine Ferraro got anywhere with her political career and why the Clintons continue to do what they do; in comparison to the practical side of Obama’s performance in public service, Hillary Clinton HAS no record.

    Has it dawned on anybody in the media that people don’t want her kind of “experience” anymore? We’ve toiled under it for nearly two decades and John McCain has nothing but the same to offer; in fact the Hillary and McCain voting records are disturbingly similar on most of the issues that Middle Class Americans deem important.

    For the sake of the survival of this country, the old-school burnouts should shut their pie-holes, move the last of their booty to offshore banks and leave. They’ve betrayed us and now they must stand aside to let people who care have a shot at creating a functional government.

  • She made the same exact comment about Jesse Jackson in 1988. If she isn’t a racist, then she’s fooled me.

  • Gerry is right. A young charismatic white guy was in the race, John Edwards, also a populist, also with a smile that makes women swoon, a voice like southern honey, and he was blown clear out of the water. He stood no chance against Hillbilly. Barry has no qualifications whatsoever to offer himself up as the most powerful man in the world, yet he is winning handily over the most powerful political machine ever created, Clinton Inc. Barry would have fallen out of the race by now, just like Breck boy did if he was not black and charismatic, thereby collecting the support of all the white liberals racked with guilt over slavery. Barry will get 99% of the black vote, and about half the liberal white vote. Is that racism?
    Gosh its fun when a left winger is accused of racism…….. you go girl,, keep digging.

  • SHAME ON HER WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN GODS EYES AND THATS THE WAY HE WANTS US TO BE , NOT BLACK WHITE RED IT DONT MATTER WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND SHOULD ACT LIKE MATURE PEOPLE . I AMASHAMED OF HER .

  • Edwards lost because he was a terrible candidate. He was a terrible VP candidate and he suddlenly found populism and no one bought it. Plus his warmonger flip-flopping didn’t help..

    Was it Obama’s fault Edwards lost in 04.

    Ferraro is the scum of the earth, but she is only doing Clinton’s bidding.

    Ever since So. Carolina Clinton has been playing the racist care. Her only chance to get the nomination is to scare enough white voters.

    It won’t work, but if you agree with Ferraro. You really should become a Republican. I would rather lose the general election then win with the sleaze tactics Clinton is employing.

  • She said the same thing about Jesse Jackson in the 80’s. THE CLINTON MACHINE IS TRYING TO TURN THE ELECTION INTO A RACE WAR IT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY FEEL THEY CAN WIN. She is hell bent on getting back at the people who ruined the first Clinton presidency in the same way Bush2 was hell bent on getting back at Hussein. 2 families= 1 dynasty 1 legacy

  • She isn’t insulting Obama. She’s insulting the people who voted for him. Considering how many millions of us there are, how dumb is that!

  • I seem to have more respect for the people of Pennsylvania, than the Clinton campaign appears to have. Pennsylvanians are not stupid, backwoods racists, who can be lulled into this white vs black mentality, that her surrogates seem to be pushing. I would be outraged by Hillary’s lack of leadership here in denouncing these continual smears.

    Hillary and Ferraro, Pennsylvanians are decent people; They don’t want your racism.

  • The whole spat is absurd. Obama is in the position he’s in because a lot of white people are voting for him. People of all backgrounds are voting for him and, I suspect, will continue to do so because of who he is and the way he conducts himself. His mother and half his family, the half he has had the most to do with, are white. Damn, this gets to be silly. Ferraro is, I believe, mistaken. There are no other candidates like him in the race, and I’m not referring to the color of his skin.

  • Hillary bends her principles when convenient. Bush beat Kerry by convincing people that Kerry did the same thing (flip-flopper).

    Hillary did not keep her word on the barring of MI and FL delegates. She says someone who calls her a “monster” should be fired, but she refuses to denounce and break ties with Ferraro. Hillary is for Nafta and then is against Nafta. She says that caucuses are not “democratic”, but then says that pledged primary-elected delegates can shift their vote and also advocates that superdelegates should vote their concious. She argues that the MI and FL primaries should count because the people of FL and MI should not be “disenfranchised”, and yet she would disenfranchise the voters who stayed home in FL and MI or who couldn’t vote for all of the candidates (MI).

    In a sense, all’s fair in politics, becaue the people are the ultimated judge. A candidate can try anything … the kitchen sink, and the people can decide for themselves if accusations are true or fair. So far, the people have spoken and Obama has the most votes.

    Hillary reeks of desperation.

  • APOLOGY: I agree with the (sophisticated) arguements made (above) about Ferraro’s comments being indefensibly racist.

  • I would like one report to ask one question of Ferraro: “If Hillary Clinton asked you to stop saying what you’re saying, would you stop?”

  • It’s time for Charlie Rangle and other African-American New York politicos committed to Clinton speak out. The Ferraro statements send one very obvious message to whites and a second to blacks. If Hillary is unwilling to demand that a civil dialog is maintained by the campaign, then her supporters must.

  • vp talks about “the support of all the white liberals racked with guilt over slavery.”

    I usually don’t feed trolls, but hey, I can’t resist.

    VP, get your head out of Limbaugh’s ass.

    You wingnuts, who want to categorize every class of persons with an “us” and “them,” mentality simply cannot believe that there is a sizable number of people in this country who think that everyone should be treated the same by their government regardless of race, sex, religion, national origin, sexual orientation or any other irrelevant characteristic. Since you cannot conceive of such an idea, you must denigrate those who do possess it.

    The “white liberal guilt” you cite does not exist and you know it. But then again, wingnuts see a lot of things that aren’t there. (“Liberal Media Bias, being one.)

  • HILLARY’S MOTIVE’S: I do not agree that HRC would condone playing the race card. My guess is that she knows that it’s probaly over. But since her campaign continues to raise millions – by staying in the race she can pay herself back the $5 mil loan, and pay-off any other debts before bowing out in Denver (maybe with a surplu$)…And by staying in, it also gives Obama someone to spar with before rolling over McCain next fall.

  • Lets face it, Ferraro is a racist. I loved her when she ran as VP, but she’s definately a racist.

    And the longer she is associated with Hillary, the more racist she looks too.

    And you can be sure that her comment about McCain being a better commander in chief than Obama will be used against him in the presidential race.

    She lost my vote for the primary long ago, now she’s losing it for her next senate race as well.

  • Hillary Clinton… We will fight you in the streets… we will fight you in the hills … we will fight you everywhere !

    -Democratic Grass Roots – Organizing against Clinton’s – Campaign against America.

    We will FIGHT YOU Everywhere !

    EVERYWHERE !

  • Well written….it should be clear that Bill Clinton played the race card in South Carolina, albeit unsuccessfully. Now the Clinton team plays the same tune using a stand-in (Ferraro), hoping there will be no negative feedback to Hillary. Maybe the trick will work this time. Hillary’s wordsmithing deserves note: “He (Obama) says he’s not a muslim.” And offhandedly suggesting that Ferraro’s comments are her (Ferraro’s) own opinion that she is free to express. Isn’t that the best of all worlds for Hillary? She takes cheap shots on an apparently daily basis at Obama, and deflects the blame to outside her campaign.

    Hillary’s tactics often appear to follow a carrot and stick pattern. Namely, offer the carrot (you folks in Miss. can get both of us cuz I’ll make him Veep), and when that didn’t work, play the race card to beat on Obama’s support and enhance her own constituency.

  • Hey, Ferraro, could we say that Clinton wouldn’t be where she is today because she is a woman?

  • Why does it really matter if he is black. One could just as easily claim he is white (with a great tan) since his mother is white. This guy is winning because he is putting forth an intelligent argument for his cause. He is not appealing to the worse in us but to the good. He does not talk in terms of one ethnic group or the other. They talk about his supposed lack of experience and action but if the information I have seen is accurate then he has been a part of about 800+ pieces of legislation in less time than his opponent has in the same government body. His opponent has far less action on her record. I think the argument for experience really means experience in doing the crap that has already been the status quo and screwing the country for years.

    What we are all witnessing is that the power structures that have been in place for a very long time are in shock because the masses of people see both parties as one in the same and are forcefully trying to get someone in that is not seen as part of the traditional problem. This guy is not a saviour but he is different

    It it also very funny that the “big” states are giving results that support the lady but all the states where people actually debate the merits of the candidates are going for the guy. Makes me wonder if it is less possible to rig the vote in the caucus/small states than in the big “wired” ones. This is really causing a problem for the powers that be.

    Oh and BTW we had 12 yrs of Bush I (remember how Reagan changed after that assignation attempt?) then 8yrs each of Clinton and Bush II so the nation has had enough of the one party system and maybe we will get a little bit of a break to recover before the onslaught resumes.

    Mark these words. If the lady is the democratic nominee then we get at least 4 more years of what we have now and in all likelihood another undeclared war with other countries. Which is probably the desired result for keeping the lady in since mathematically she can not win.

  • “4 yrs Bush I + 8 yrs Clinton + 8 yrs Bush Lite = 20 years of the screwing of the American worker”.

    One of the various bloggers wrote the above and I agree with him/her.

    The American worker better wake up and not vote for Clinton or McCain.
    Let’s take back our country and stay away from dynasties and war mongers.

    Clinton’s campaign has racially divided the Democratic party. If it is not her pushing Minister Farrikan, then its her campaign people bringing up race……She needs to stick with the issues……What makes her issues better than Obama’s. Talk about that Senator Clinton!!!!

    When it comes to issues let’s look at the record………

    Bush Sr.—War Clinton—NAFTA Bush Jr.—WAR AND NAFTA
    2nd Clinton possibility…..WAR-NAFTA-ECONOMY
    McCain….WAR-NAFTA-ECONOMY-JOBS-CRIME-LOBBYISTS
    Obama….CHANGE—Immediate impact on leaders that hate us…..Cuba/Venezuela/Iran etc. Why, because he will dialogue and work on solutions not wait for a 3 a.m. phone call. Economy, because he will return the money we are spending in Iraq and use that money in the United States to stimulate our economy….so we can build structures and create jobs here in the United States. Unfortunately, Iraq is saving their money and putting it in banks and not U.S. banks….So we create oil refineries and build businesses like Dubai….and have what the Dubai families have…….

    It’s about who will do what’s best for America….and it hasn’t been what we have seen in Washington, D.C.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

  • More old Washington tactics the divide and conquer style politics. Divide over race, sex, and education level anything that sticks. How about ALL AMERICANS against theocracy styled government. Maybe, Clinton and Bush families dominating politics for the last 28 years is something we all should be worried about. How about transparency in government?

    “They are attacking me cause I’m White.”

    Ok! Show your tax returns!

    “But I’m a woman!”

    Ok! Why did you defend NAFTA nearly every chance you were given up until your bid for Ohio!

    “I stand for women’s rights”

    You never stood up for Monica Lewinski; in fact Hillary has never even denounced her husband’s actions.

    More old rhetoric for an increasingly old Washington the time for change is now!

  • I believe this whole drama was concocted in a Clinton war room, preplanned and premeditated; 100% contrived. I believe that the Hillary campaign just wanted the comments out there regardless of how and needed someone big enough to say it hence the choice of Ferraro that could give their ‘campaign contribution’ and then withdraw fom the campaign. It doesn’t matter if the statement is true, just get out there, the incendiary nature of the statement will inflame the haters whether you retract or not and give the people who feel that way and like they’re not being heard a feeling of getting their audience while Clinton can public PRETEND that the sentiments are just the opinion of a supporter and keep her distance.

    Once Ferraro withdraws from the Clinton campaign as part of this contrived drama (which she just has per CNN), Hillary can then be the ‘good cop’ in this fake good cop/bad cop scenario but the comments and sentiment is already out in the wild and the damage is already done.

    What I’m saying is this incident was 100% planned and engineered to play out just like it’s playing out

  • Ferraro is right, Obama is winning every electoral state that we do NOT need to win in the fall …. If our process nominates a candidate from states that can not help in the fall… then our process is screwed up!.

  • Ferretto is just horribly bitter and jealous that this Obama kid gets to walk in and win all these primaries when she never got the recognition she “deserved”. The latest from her is that she’s now the victim because people have chewed her out for making a fool of herself. This will probably be going on another week, with Ferrettoi making wilder and angrier statements until she says that the blacks should be back in the cotton fields or something.

  • I think it will be honourable for Hillary to step aside now that the ovation is still loud.
    She has done well so far but her continued presence will adversly affect Democrats chance in the General election. She can’t win the nomination and it is not in the best interest of the party that she continues to play the spoiler for Barack Obama. I hope party leaders should let her see reasons.

  • Steve, since when do we “not need to win” states in an election?
    Let’s just throw away potential wins because they’re not solid blue states?

    Yeah, that’ll work like a charm. I’m surprised the DNC hasn’t made you their new chairman!

  • The Ferraro comment was not racist. Unfortunately, it is taboo to criticize Obama in any way – this action labels you a racist. Of course, sexist behaviors are okay so are overstating your
    accomplishments. Then of course , blatant hypocrisy like being against mail in ballots if you
    are on the ballot versus someone else being on the ballot. Yes, Obama co-sponsored
    legislation for mail balloting but doesnt want it for himself.
    Then of course there is the distinctive voting behavior of some Obama supporters.
    The Dallas Morning News reports that many Obama supporters only voted for him and then left the
    rest of the ballot empty. Informed voters huh?

    Ferraro probably knew she would have to resign but mission accomplished,
    she said what needed to be said.

  • Oh, lordy! If CNN is correct and Geraldine withdrew, it was all Clinton and she is truly a “monster”, vicious and evil. Why would anyone, male/female/black/brown/asian, want such a sick person with a hand on the “button” or an ability to talk us into another war, in the Oval Office? Hillary, go back to the Senate and weave your webs and let Bill continue to flit about acting young.

  • Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, “Someday, my 4 children will be judged not by the color of their skin, but my the content of their character.”

    Did the 90% blacks vote for Obama because of his skin color or because of the content of his character?

    Do any of the 90% blacks even know what Obama’s character really is?

    Do you?

    Was Geraldine right or wrong?

  • It’s not the first time… A Ferraro flashback

    “If Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race,” she said.

    Really. The cite is an April 15, 1988 Washington Post story (byline: Howard Kurtz), available only on Nexis.

    Here’s the full context:

    Placid of demeanor but pointed in his rhetoric, Jackson struck out repeatedly today against those who suggest his race has been an asset in the campaign. President Reagan suggested Tuesday that people don’t ask Jackson tough questions because of his race. And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his “radical” views, “if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race.”

    Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, “Millions of Americans have a point of view different from” Ferraro’s.

    Discussing the same point in Washington, Jackson said, “We campaigned across the South . . . without a single catcall or boo. It was not until we got North to New York that we began to hear this from Koch, President Reagan and then Mrs. Ferraro . . . . Some people are making hysteria while I’m making history.”

    Ben Smith

  • Lets be honest, every politician has came to into the political limelight due to some edge or another. Should Geraldine Ferraro have been fired? Of course. To say that Obama is lucky because he’s an African American is to say McCain is lucky because he was a POW and a veteren and Hillery is lucky because she was married to Bill Clinton. To say such things is to remove from the canidate all their accomplishments and who they are, as individuals and what they bring to this country. Each candiate may have had a “draw” one way or another but each canidate is where they are because they have done well and worked hard to get there. Each has brought their own message before the American people and each canidate has had success because of it. There have been other African American canidates, other women canidates and other veteren Republican canidates and none have ever made it as far as these three. We should stop making blatant, stupid statements against each canidate, that takes away from the canidates hard work, genius and success. Oh and by the way, Bill Clinton is a white male and when he ran, he won the Black vote, hands down.

  • Ferraro went too far. She is trying to strip Sen. Obama of his abillities to lead the country (with her race comment). Sen. Obama and everyone in America has the right to respond to her comment, to the degree from which we received it. If she did not want all the fall out surrounding it, she should not have made it. Plus, Sen. Clinton should have responded immediately to her and rejected all ties (including funding). It just goes to show that Sen. Obama is right when saying, “Sen. Clinton is a part of the ‘same old politics as usual (led by the special interest groups/those in power and with the right financial backin).'”

  • I am an Obama supporter, I voted for him in the Illinois primary and I will certainly vote for him in November. I think that he is the best candidate for several reasons, none of which have to do with his race or gender.

    However, Ms. Ferraro is correct. The plain truth is that if Obama were not a minority, he would be treated differently by the voters, the media and the Democratic Party. Is it racism to say that he is treated differently?

    To acknowledge a difference is not the same as racism. Professor Watson, the Nobel Prize winner, was recently castigated for saying what amounts to “not all men are created equal”.

    He did not say that they should be denied rights or treated badly, he just stated the fact that Africans do not do as well on tests as some of the other ethnicities. He simply stated this uncontested scientific fact and was misinterpreted all over the media. They made it sound like he was saying that he thought less of Africans than people of other races. He did not say that at all.

    As a geneticists, he more than most people can appreciate the benefits that their robust and varied genome provides to Africans and their descendants. They have a wider variety of genetic diversity than anywhere else on Earth, while all the other races have much less diversity. Thus, descendants of non-African genes are more susceptible to biological attacks and therefore more likely to become exterminated when the next great plague evolves.

    Ms. Ferraro has stepped on the same kind of landmine here. She is not stating that Obama should be treated differently because he is half black, she did not say he should be held to a different standard because he is half black, she simply stated that the media is treating him differently.

    Let’s not persecute honest people who are simply telling the truth. The causes of social justice and protecting the rights of all Americans are certainly important, but lets not ignore truth because it may not be polite, prudent or politically correct.

    We should not blame Ms Ferraro for stating the obvious.

    Can you handle the Truth? Visit http://www.republicanswar.com

    Thank you all and please play fair!

    John Rosengarten

  • Ferrero is an old person with old ideas. Hopefully our country is not racist like her anymore. This hurts Clinton, as it should.

  • Ferraro did NOTHING wrong but speak the truth. This is pure racism against a white woman. Reverse racism at it finest.

    Think about this .

    Black Entertainment Television ? – where is White Entertainment TV ?

    Black History Month – where is white history month ?

    The list goes on…

    Stop racism from all sides. Ferraro should be able to speak the truth,
    without being called a racist.

    I will vote for hilary…NOT because she is white…because she would do a better job.

  • I’m sorry that Geraldine Ferraro resigned. The one thing that has always distinguished her is that she is outspoken and tells it like it is. The statement she made is FACT. How anybody can read this as racist is just plain sad. Perhaps we are becoming naziesque in what we can speak and who is allowed to speak.

  • Ferrarro’s comment suggests that Obama’s is in his position because of some quota system. How ignorant. A quota system is something that is imposed (like her as a VP candidate). People are voting for him as opposed to him being selected. Black Americans are voting for him not only because he is a viable candidate but also because we feel you can not trust a Clinton. Remember, Bill received more Black votes than did Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. So to say we are voting for Barak soley because his is black is not supported by history.
    An ordinary phrase that has added meaning in the Black Community is that a person is “now showing his true color.” Since South Carolina, it is being used to describe the Clintons . “They are now showing their true colors.” This has very powerful connotations with Black America. It is not in reference to their race as “color.” It’s more like there was this beautiful being with a heart of gold but now we see it was nothing but a real ugly chameleon who had used us in the past for his own gain. I’ve heard this phrase a lot recently and I tell you, when you hear that phrase you can bet we’d rather vote for Jesse Helms. Despite Helms past, he could at least be trusted. Plain and simple.
    This is not a contest of race, it is not a White win/Black lost or vice versa situation. Black Americans do not see Obama as a savior nor do we expect free fried chicken dinners at the White house (for all you plagarism police I’m paraphrasing Fuzzy Zoeller re: Tiger Woods ). We expect him to be a good decent honest and fair American president. And for that, he will get my vote.

  • Steve – CA wrote:

    “Think about this .

    Black Entertainment Television ? – where is White Entertainment TV ?

    Black History Month – where is white history month ?”

    To which, I respond…

    1. The other 500+ channels on your cable box.

    2. The remaining 11 months of the year.

    Questions?

  • Mrs. Ferraro is absolutly right. Obama’s first exposure was on Oprah’s book club. Shortly thereafter, Oprah offered her support.This exposure gave him national attention. She supports him because he is black and no other reason. Oprah is the racist.

  • to: James Arthur Varian,

    Hey Moron,

    that’s not the point, the point is if we had a white history channel, we would be called racist.

  • Steve-CA,

    Awfully convenient to ignore the big picture in order to advance a myopic opinion, don’t you think?

    Don’t worry, I don’t think people will leap very far to find you a racist if you were to start that channel…not when the distance to “village idiot” is less than a half step away. Enjoy your “victory” walk.

  • Anybody who thinks the U.S. will not explode if Obama is elected is too close to the forest. Stand back, get out of the rhetoric. There is 300 years of frustration, hate and resentment that will suddenly come to power and the ‘white’ population wil be sitting ducks.

  • Eugene, I could say something but I won’t. Comments like yours don’t deserve a response.

  • If Ms Ferraro’s comment about Sen Obama was true Rev Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been just as successful as Sen Obama.

    But we know that they were not successful in their presidental campaigns.

    They didn’t receive overwhelming support from the African American community.

    African Americans have supported 100% all the democratic presidental contenders for over 40 years. All of these candidates have been European Americans.

    Now that they are giving their support to Sen Obama, we see the RACISTS in the Democratic Party showing their true colors.

    They (the racists) only tolerated African Americans in the party as long as they did (vote) what they were told.

    The tactics used by Sen Clintons and her surrogates is sending a message to all of us who can see clearly.

    If the Democratoc Party’s leadership don’t step in and condemn this type of dirty, race baiting type of politricks, they will/should lose the support of many good-hearted people in the Democratic Party.

  • Charismatic young John F. Kennedy won the presidency in 1960. His brother, charismatic young Robert F. Kennedy, attracted huge support in 1968 and might have become president as well if he hadn’t been assassinated. Charismatic young Gary Hart nearly stole the 1984 Democratic nomination from Walter Mondale. And charismatic young Bill Clinton won the presidency in 1992.

    And if you were a young charismatic one-term Senator in 2004, you’d land the VP slot without ever having been anyone’s wife. (That we know of.)

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