Note to McCain: comedy is hard

I know a lot of people in politics find John McCain quite charming, thanks in large part to his biting sense of humor. If he hosts a town-hall forum, for example, and someone asks a challenging question, McCain calls the voter a “little jerk.” It’s not my cup of tea, but it’s apparently all part of the charisma.

I’m curious, though, if one of these days, the senator’s acerbic sense of humor might get him into a little trouble.

While waiting for cheese steaks at Pittsburgh’s Primanti Bros., famous for its thick sandwiches piled high with French fries, an Associated Press reporter asked McCain to comment on a report that U.S. exports to Iran had increased tenfold during the last seven years — with cigarettes ranking as the top export.

“Maybe that’s a way of killing them,” McCain responded. He quickly followed up: “I meant that as a joke, as a person who hasn’t had a cigarette in 28 years.”

Greg Sargent, who has the video, responded, “That’s not very presidential, now is it.”

Now, I know McCain was kidding, and it’s foolish to go berserk after every failed attempt at humor. McCain isn’t exactly making policy pronouncements with these flubbed jokes.

But it’s nevertheless interesting how careless McCain is with his sense of humor. The “killing them” joke about Iranians follows, of course, the “Bomb Iran” joke from a few months ago. McCain has to realize — at least, he should — that comments like these get picked up and will probably be the focus of considerable attention in Iran. Indeed, Iranians will be told that the next leader of Bush’s political party has now made multiple “jokes,” publicly, about killing Iranians.

Indeed, as Yglesias noted, “If a major Iranian political leader were to repeatedly joke about bombing the United States and killing Americans, you can just imagine the shit-storm about how Iran isn’t a normal country with normal interests, that it’s run by irrational fanatics, appeasement won’t work, etc.”

I’d just add that McCain’s use of humor has been problematic for quite a while.

In 1998, for example, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, McCain thought he was very clever when he told a nasty, tasteless joke about Chelsea Clinton, describing the president’s daughter as “ugly,” and suggesting that Janet Reno is a man.

Last year, McCain appeared on “The Daily Show,” and joked to Jon Stewart that he’d intended to bring an improvised explosive device “to put on your desk.”

Earlier this year, McCain joked about waterboarding his staff.

Around the same time, McCain joked that he finds Southerners “hard to understand” because of their accents, and suggested voters might need “translators” to understand former Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

And, of course, McCain is joking about bombing and killing Iranians.

I don’t want to make too much of this. I realize McCain is just trying to be clever, assuming that voters like a candidate with a sense of humor. I suspect there are going to plenty of people who hear all of this and say, “Lighten up; he just likes to kid around.” Maybe so.

My point isn’t to be up-tight about bad comedy; my point is that John McCain’s comedic styles are going to get him into some political trouble one of these days.

Right now I don’t think there are many strategies better for Barack Obama than to really just let this guy hang himself with his own rope.

I’ve heard some people express the view that more or less, Obama is going to either win this election or lose it, and that McCain is just the cipher representing the “other guy.”

And maybe on some level that’s true.

But the more McCain speaks, the more he comes across as a whiny, braying jackass of a person, not well-versed in economic policy, disinterested in actually engaging people, and really just kind of a jerk, to be honest.

And CB is right – this isn’t the biggest issue. But McCain is still an a**.

  • “Yo Harper.” I think the frat boy president has lowered the bar for boorish presidential behavior so much that it’s impossible to get under it anymore.

  • While all of this is true, the fact that American companies are making large profits on exporting cigarettes is shameful. I thought that I read that so-called free trade agreements were being used by the corporations to either be compensated for lost revenue or forcing sovereign countries to not enact anti-smoking laws.

  • You cover this election like Mr Rogers. Cigarettes kill. You have to walk on eggshells with the media.

    The reporter brought up the cigarettes. It was over in a second. There has to be something more important to talk about.

    This election coverage has been a disgrace.

    Every day there is some fake outrage then 24 hours later that is forgotten about and there is another fake outrage. During that time no issues get talked about.

    Has there ever been a worse covered election than this one. The media is constantly taking soundbites out of context. The media is lost.

  • This joke about cigarrettes has gotten more attention than Hillary’s policy of a nuclear sheild for the middle east and obliterating Iran.

    A joke about cigarrettes has now gotten more hits on google than Hillary’s statement.

  • “My point isn’t to be up-tight about bad comedy; my point is that John McCain’s comedic styles are going to get him into some political trouble one of these days.”

    If inept policy pronouncements and a fundamental misunderstanding of every issue he would face as president doesn’t get him in trouble, how are a few bad jokes? Especially when they’re made “among friends” like the reporters who keep following him around? Their news judgment has been utterly warped by their views on this man.

  • I think I was a shocked as anyone to learn we actually manufacture and export something.

  • There’s a saying among comedians–if you’re funny, you can get away with anything, if you’re not, you’re just an asshole. McCain’s not funny, ergo……………..

  • I know I disagree with Benen on this one. I like jokes. Some fall flat, some are politically incorrect. Big deal. I actually chuckled at this latest cigarette one.

  • From a semi-simian faction of the human race that brags about jokes of assassinating judges by poisoning their coffee, this latest example of Homo Knuckle-draggerus behavior shouldn’t be too surprising. They can flaunt the realm of ethics and personal responsibility to the ends of the earth, and no one will really do anything about it.

    But in all fairness, I simply have to wonder—would I be able to get away with making silly threats—in an identical vein—against Republicans? Probably not. They are, after all, so desperately desperate to find their “Goldstein-of-the-hour” to offset the tyrannical stupidity of their Big Brother-ish “savior-to-be….”

  • It is important though — every time someone — McCain or anyone else — uses such language, they are demonizing the enemy du jour. Now, Iran has its problems, yes. It’s a theocracy, for one thing (the way it’d be here if Dobson’s dreams come true). And yes, the government does not like America. Given the rhetoric from the USA, I don’t blame them. But Iran is also a nation of 70 million people who are … just people. Not militants who hate the USA, but people who go about their jobs, raise their children, worry about paying their bills — folks like any other country, iow.

    I realize that the Republicans need lots of enemies to keep things hopping, but I hate that countries are being unfairly demonized all over the place. I mean — that worked out real well in Iraq, didn’t it?

  • What zhak said…100%

    And: Glad to hear McCain believes the science that says cigarettes kill.
    Although, I suspect his voting record shows just the opposite…

  • I’m of the opinion that politicians should be free to use even off-color humor, as long as it’s actually FUNNY.

    That aside, I’ve never understood the Republican progaganda department demononzing the Iranians, of all people. I mean, it’s a theocracy, after all – just like what they want to put in place here, complete with public beheadings for homosexuals, Democrats and other traitors to God and America. The Repulican party is far more idealogically compatible with Iran’s radical mullahs than they are with the ideals of Jeffeson, Adams and the like.

  • I have heard McCain tell one funny joke when he was campaigning at City Hall here in Burlington in 2000. When asked about Bush’s overwhelming money advantage, McCain quipped “Well things are always darkest just before they’re totally black.”

  • 17. On July 9th, 2008 at 11:56 am, unfriendlyfire said:
    I’ve never understood the Republican progaganda department demononzing the Iranians, of all people. I mean, it’s a theocracy, after all – just like what they want to put in place here, complete with public beheadings for homosexuals, Democrats and other traitors to God and America.
    _____________________________________________

    Yeah. but they’re brown, and they do that “LUHLUHLUHLUHLUHLUHLUH” thing at the top of their lungs. This angers and confuses me. America’s God is better, and we have to prove it by killing them and taking their oil.

    Don’t we?

  • The remark about the cigarettes is nothing new. McCain has already made it clear that he wants all Iranians dead.

  • In itself, this latest “joke” doesn’t seem to mean much, no.
    But as part of a pattern showing McCain to be an angry, aggressive, essentially mean-spirited jerk, it DOES mean something. It contributes to a well-known and seemingly very accurate picture of his essential ethos.
    Would the other side hesitate to make use of something similar? Don’t think so.

  • CINDY=C*NT
    Would this get me cited?

    I’m 63 and I am not “old” or “frail”. A 61-year-old woman is not an old woman. Even a grandmother does not mean someone is “old”. McCain, on the other hand…

  • Funy…if it talks like gutter trash…

    “Not very presidential”…hahaha. This guy shouldn’t even be in the senate…and probably wouldn’t be if he hadn’t manipulated public guilt about being a POW.

    One commenter here said ,”… one bad year repeated 39 times”, that’s McCain’s ‘experience’. I say his experience only adds up to a reputation. We will need for McCain what driftglass states we need for Jesse Helms:

    “…The inhabitants of Stephanopoulos’ world will never come within a million miles of even forming their mouths to say the words “Jesse Helms was a despicable, racist motherfucker who stayed in power for as long as he did because his supporters and admirers were and are despicable, racist motherfuckers, one and all.”

    Instead, the inhabitants of Stephanopoulos’ world believe that on the occasion of the death of this evil man we should toddle down to the Piggly Wiggly and buy some brand of Kiwi shoe polish powerful enough, to buff this turd of a human being to a shine high enough, so that he can be buried under a gooey, compromise word like “Controversial” or “Provocative”….”

    Translate to McCain being “presidential”.

  • The viet-nam war was based on a lie..The Gulf of Tonkin affair. Most went due to the dtraft and ignorance…but the war was wrong and those you served it’s main purpose were not heroic though they acted heroically in defending themselves and others who had the misfortune of finding themselves in Nam. Heroism were those who opposed the war and the war machine and were trying to save American lives by stopping the war and the killing of our youth. Even General Westmoreland admitted before his death that it was a war to test equipment and for profits. In a war of choice based on lies McCain would not be a hero but a mass murderer, as he himself claimed, for bombing civilians who happened to live there.

    He supported an Iraq war/invasion/occupation based on lies to test equipment and to profiteer and is already posed to commit mass murder in Iran. The divisions of the sixties are of course being fought again because it is another war based on lies to test equipment and profiteer for the same military-industrial-government-media complex. McCain is a representative of this complex again, proving that he learned nothing from Viet-Nam. War is not some heroic deed to be performed over and over again yet this is how McCain approaches our national security. He cannot be trusted exactly because he has been so tainted by war.

  • A related point of interest is that funny people tend to be smart people. People with banal, heavyhanded or awkward senses of humor are usually…well, dumb.

  • Funny. Obama receives heat from the media because he admitted he was ‘surprised’ how his words were taken regarding the Iraq draw down — I believe the dressing down was “Your words matter, Senator.”

    And yet McCain can callously joke, and were all supposed to give him a pass because ‘it’s just a joke’?

  • Only a real prick would get a cheesesteak at Primanti’s. I know they say it is their second best seller, but it’s second to everything else on the menu.

  • Mmm – Is McCain aware that the US has to cooperate with Iran re, oh, preventing heroisn from getting into the US?…

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