Novak: Clinton has secret dirt on Obama

Stories like this one, published by the ethically-challenged Robert Novak, these are really annoying.

Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party’s presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, but has decided not to use it. The nature of the alleged scandal was not disclosed.

This word-of-mouth among Democrats makes Obama look vulnerable and Clinton look prudent. It comes during a dip for the front-running Clinton after she refused to take a stand on New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s now discarded plan to give driver’s licenses to illegal aliens.

Really, what’s the point a report like this? Novak claims that Clinton “agents” aren’t spreading Obama rumors — they’re spreading rumors about rumors. They have “scandalous information,” which they won’t use, but which nevertheless “makes Obama look vulnerable.”

Please. What could possibly make Novak publish an item like this? Clinton supporters (who he will not name) are allegedly spreading rumors (which he cannot identify) about an Obama scandal (which may or may not exist). It’s journalism at its most hacktacular.

It makes Clinton’s campaign look bad, for allegedly engaging in a nasty whisper campaign, and it puts the Obama campaign in an impossible position of having to defend itself from rumors that haven’t even been articulated.

For what it’s worth, the Obama campaign issued a statement in response to Novak’s piece, which I received via email.

“During our debate in Las Vegas on Thursday, we heard Senator Clinton rail against the politics of ‘throwing mud.’

“At the very same time, in Washington, Robert Novak was publishing a column in which he reported the following: ‘Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party’s presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama…’

“The item did not identify these ‘agents,’ nor did it reveal the nature of the charge. It was devoid of facts, but heavy on innuendo and insinuation of the sort to which we’ve become all too accustomed in our politics these past two decades. If the purpose of this shameless item was to daunt or discourage me or supporters of our campaign from challenging and changing the politics of Washington, it will fail. In fact, it will only serve to steel our resolve.

“But in the interest of our party, and her own reputation, Senator Clinton should either make public any and all information referred to in the item, or concede the truth: that there is none.

“She of all people, having complained so often about ‘the politics of personal destruction,’ should move quickly to either stand by or renounce these tactics.

“I am prepared to stand up to that kind of politics, whether it’s deployed by candidates in our party, in the other party or by any third party.

“The cause of change in this country will not be deterred or sidetracked by the old ‘Swift boat’ politics. The cause of moving America forward demands that we defeat it.”

Notice that the campaign took a derisive tone towards Novak, which was the right call. Jumping on the report as if it were true would be to give Novak the benefit of the doubt, which he definitely doesn’t deserve.

No word from the Clinton campaign on all of this, though I suspect if Novak’s piece starts getting picked up, the campaign will have to say something. Stay tuned.

Swiftboating by omission. Novak is the scum of the earth.

  • Novak makes an easy–and utterly deserving–villain: not for nothing did Jon Stewart name him a Douchebag for Liberty.

    But we shouldn’t allow our ire at that slimebag to obscure yet another stylistic similarity between Clinton 2008 and Bush 2000.

    I’m increasingly unsure I could continue to be a Democrat if InevitaBillary is the nominee. The politics they practice is just beyond ugly.

  • How many more stupid things does Novak have to do before he’s put out to pasture? The same for Broder and most of the other so-called pundits. I’m amazed and disheartened that our media seems unable to come up with any new, informed, articulate voices. Instead, we have Novak, Matthews, Broder, Russert, et al. All of them peddling the same uninformed, misbegotten crap that they’ve peddled all their lives.

    It’s like frickin; Ground Hog Day with no way out.

  • Novak is such gutter slime. Leave it to him to try to pull political discourse into the mud. Can’t find another CIA agent to out so he slinks along the gutter looking for dirt to make himself viable as a journalist. But Journalists usually have integrity which is totally lacking in Novak.

  • Novak’s column is published in how many newspapers? (Evans and Novak used to be in the vast majority of American dailies, I genuinely have no idea how many still carry him)

    If this is his newspaper column, then I’m guessing the rumor already has wide enough circulation that Clinton has to deny it.

  • The Obama camp should have thought this out before they responded;

    Once again Senator Obama is echoing Republican talking points, this time from Bob Novak. This is how Republicans work. A Republican leaning journalist runs a blind item designed to set Democrats against one another. Experienced Democrats see this for what it is. Others get distracted and thrown off their games. Voters should be concerned about the readiness of any Democrat inexperienced enough to fall for this. There is only one campaign in this race that has actually engaged in the very practice that Senator Obama is decrying, and it’s his. We have no idea what Mr. Novak’s item is about and reject it totally. Instead of pointing fingers at us, Senator Obama should get back to the issues and focus on what this election is really about.”

  • Dajafi, I think you’re missing an important point by assuming Clinton would stoop to this level: if it’s true would Novak (NOVAK!!!) really be the first media figure to find out about it from his presumably not very widespread Democratic sources? It seems far more likely that his sources are the same Republican operatives who have made a living for 16 years now making slime up about the Clintons. I don’t like her politics much either but this just screams bullshit.

  • Novak is full of poop. I’ve seen more reliable reporting in the “two-headed alien baby” tabloids in the checkout line.

    But Obama campaign is handling this all wrong. He should have attacked Novak, not the Clinton campaign which is an innocent bystander in this. Then Hillary could have followed up with her own attack on Novak. Instead, she is likely to respond to Obama like TheInsider suggests @ #6. Everyone will wonder: “Just what IS the dirt on Obama?”

    Novak is slimy. No wonder they call him the Prince of Darkness.

  • What a scumbag Novak is? an intellectual impotent who does not have the guts to take on the issues that democratic candidates are proposing and discussing. I hope the leading candidates ignore this idiot whose intention is to cause chaos among the democratic candidates, thus helping republican.

    He is one among Matthews, Broder, Russert, et al. Instead of listening to these scumbags, folks, listen to Bill Maher, Colbert, Jay leno, Letterman and other comedy talk show hosts who bring about the hypocrisies of the politics and attack these scumbags and make fun of them with no fear.

  • I know! I know! Obama fathered a white love-child.

    Novak’s “proof” will be a post by some loony on some three-hit-per-day blog.

  • I don’t like Obama’s response. It’s accusatory toward Hillary. For all we know, and I certainly hope so, she hasn’t the slightest idea what this is about. Why didn’t Obama call up Hillary and ask what the hell is this crap from Novak?

    I can’t believe she’d stoop to this. Forget about ethics. It’s terminally stupid. She’d be finished in my book, and that of millions of others, too.

    But we’ll see.

    Give Novak credit for a novel way of smearing two Democrats at once.

  • Notwithstanding that Novak is a douchebag of the highest (or is it lowest?) order, this is politics and it is ugly. Hillary has nothing to loose from this, but Obama does so I think he has reacted correctly. Rethugs want Hillary to win; Obama is closing and he will take away Rethug votes if the Democratic nominee, so they are going to go after him. He has to react, otherwise he looks weak and has something to hide. Of course what Novak says could be true! Anyone think that isn’t at least a possibility?

  • Shalimar,

    Novak actually is extremely well sourced within the Democratic Party. Check out this piece from the New York Review of Books, on Novak’s memoir: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20696

    As you’d expect, his Democratic sources tend to be the well-established institutional types–those who tend to ignore the trail of slime he leaves behind because he’s “important” and “widely read,” and because they’d rather try to leverage his importance and relevance than change the climate such that he and his vile ilk are marginalized.

    Sound like anyone we know? It’s not at all difficult for me to envision Novak, Carville and Penn in some darkly lit corner of a DC steakhouse, drinking red wine and laughing at the naifs out there who think politics is about anything more than who best “plays the game.”

    To that, please note Howard Wolfson’s response, quoted by “TheInsider”–telling handle–in comment #6, inaccurately (whether through malice or incompetence, I dunno) identified as coming from Obama’s campaign. He never says, “We didn’t do this; we wouldn’t do this; we denounce Novak.” He attacks Obama, and gives the Nixonian non-denial “We have no idea what Novak is talking about.” It’s an almost infinitely parsable statement–a Clintonian classic, I’m tempted to say.

    These are the “Democrats” who love lobbyists, who run their campaigns like Bush 2000 with tight spin and a focus on branding and message discipline (“strength and experience… strength and experience… strength and experience…”) rather than a progressive vision of where they would like to lead the country. These are the Democrats who think that war is always good politics, at least until the war is exposed as a disaster–at which point they start planning the next war. At some point it must be asked whether they’re Democrats at all, at least in any sense I’d be proud to identify with.

    I detest the politics the Clintons practice. They utilize despicable means for ends that look only very slightly better than those favored by the Bushes.

  • My guess is that this is Rove’s doing. We know that Rove is a master of the whispering campaign. Essentially what Novak is reporting is a meta-whispering campaign: a whispering campaign about a whispering campaign. We also know that Novak considers Rove a valuable source.

    What Rove achieves with this if he succeeds is infighting amongst two Democratic front runners which will leave neither looking good, which has at least two possible outcomes which might help the GOP. First should one of the two receive the nomination they may be weakened in the general election. I think more importantly it could reduce the possibility of a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket which could be a very strong combination in the general election.

    Well, those are my thoughts on the whole thing.

  • I think Obama’s response was appropriate.

    Hillary DOES need to publicly step up, one way or the other.

    Obama isn’t accusing Hillary, but he’s right that she needs to stand up and say (loudly) that it’s not true.

  • For those who are wondering-

    Not all paternity records can be found at the courthouses.

    Birth certificates are not public information.

    Each state has a child support recovery office and under the law they can set up parentage and support without a court order.

    The likely scenario, if this is the info in question, is that some employee with access to birth certificate, acknowledgement of paternity or payment of child support records found out and passed it on.

    Of course, the mother would know but may stand to gain by not going public.

    Jesse Jackson was able to keep his love child under wraps for a long time.

  • So Novak is slime ? LOL !! What other political columnist doesn’t evoke that moniker from at least some detractors ? The “story” here is that Obama’s camp responded to it beyond addressing Novak, which then generated a counter-response from Hillary’s side. There is more yet to be written about this one, unless we want to believe that simpleton Novak merely says “jump”, and the two Dem front-runners say “how high?”.

  • dont be so quick to dismiss Novak, he’s been at this a while and has some credibility in situations like this

  • Traitor Novak should be in prison, serving a life sentence for the treasonous outing of the convert CIA agent, Valerie Plame and her covert business operation. Here, he is just trying to muddy the waters, slime two of the Democratic candidates and thus help pave the way for another electronically-stolen Presidential Election by the Republican gangsters in November, 2008…

  • Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles…

    If this is indeed true, why is it that Novak is the only person reporting this story?

    Logically speaking, there should be a plethora of sources able to confirm this accusation. No?

  • Novak outted a US agent at the behest of the White House during a war. Him, Rove, Libby and others should be in jail for betraying thier country.

  • I agree with dajafi @ 2 that Clinton politics “are beyond ugly”. One does not need Robert Novak to reach that opinion, just look at the so-called debate the other night. Markos Moulitsas had a post on how Clinton had taken a page out of Rove’s playbook by attacking Obama and Edwards as having taken a page out of the Republicans’ playbook themselves because they questioned her. Only in her speak it was mud-slinging. And then, the managed message with cooperation of CNN and Blitzer which has been going on in the media forever. Very Orwellian! The audience booing Obama and especially Edwards was not spontaneous but downright thuggish. The planted questions, the questionable fund raising, you can go on and on. If there is some meat to Novak’s insinuations, I think it is smart of Obama to make a pre-emptive statement. It sort of reminds one of Seymour Hersh’s pre-emptive warnings about impending Bush actions because it cuts the perpetrator off at the knees, and he or she has second thoughts about going ahead with the plans.

  • Maybe they’re the same “agents” who recently told that AP reporter Ron Fournier (who just happens to have done a pretty blatant hit piece on John Edwards a week or two before) that the Clinton campaign campaign had plans all along to claim all the other guys were ganging up on her ’cause she’s a girl.

    Oh, wait, no those were Clinton’s “advisers,” not her “agents.” I see the difference now. The advisers are the ones who go around dishing on details of secret campaign strategy to hostile reporters — since the Clinton campaign has that policy of being so easy and open and trusting with the press and all. But when they want to leak a whiff of secret oppo’ research to a hostile right-wing columnist, that’s a job for agents.

  • I’m sorry, I don’t believe a word Novak says without confirmation from someone at least semi-respectable. If this is true than others have heard about it and will report the gossip on tomorrow morning’s gabfests. Yes it would be beyond disgusting to spread such a whisper campaign against your opponent, very similar to what Rove did to McCain in South Carolina in 2000 among many other examples (I actually used to know Alabama Supreme Court Justice Mark Kennedy, who retired after Rove spread the rumor that he was a child molester around Alabama law schools). Which is why I don’t think it’s true, it’s a Republican tactic. Can anyone give a single example of Hillary Clinton doing anything even remotely like this before?

  • To phrase that a little differently, would all the people asserting that Hillary and Bill Clinton are just as sleazy on the campaign trail as Bush was in 2000 please provide at least a little evidence? I don’t like their centrist pro-business politics and would prefer not to have to vote for Hillary (I didn’t vote for Bill either time, I voted for Jimmy Stewart because I thought he would be a better actor/president than Reagan; times have unfortunately changed though and voting against the Democratic candidate is no longer an option), but most of the claims I have seen about their revolting behavior have been right-wing lies. I don’t understand the people who despise them personally.

  • Obama made the right move by responding quickly and strongly, while not attacking Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and made a vague ‘Huh?’ response. Hillary Clinton needs to quickly assert that the rumours are totally false and that her campaign not spreading anything, or she is the one who will begin to look bad here.

  • What could possibly make Novak publish an item like this? …

    (clearly a rhetorical question, as you’ve provided the answer):

    It makes Clinton’s campaign look bad, for allegedly engaging in a nasty whisper campaign, and it puts the Obama campaign in an impossible position of having to defend itself from rumors that haven’t even been articulated.

    the real question is — why does the washington post provide him such a valuable piece of real estate to spew his poison.

  • I think candidates for elected public office should– taking a cue from Mitt Romney– from now on issue hyperbolic or potentially scandalous / controversial statements from the floor of pancake house restaurants (preferably after stuffing a forkful of syrupy, good home-style pancake into the mouth) rather than, for example, releasing them through leaks or gossip.

  • So, here, Hillary should have just trumpeted it brazenly in front of a bunch of folksy down-home citizens, if the story that this is coming from her is true.

  • Here comes word from the Clinton camp.

    “She of all people, having complained so often about ‘the politics of personal destruction,’ should move quickly to either stand by or renounce these tactics,” Obama said in his initial statement.

    He called the column “a shameless item” aimed at smearing him through “innuendo and insinuation.”

    Clinton’s camp quickly fired back.

    “A Republican-leaning journalist runs a blind item designed to set Democrats against one another. Experienced Democrats see this for what it is. Others get distracted and thrown off their games,” Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said in a statement.

    “We have no idea what Mr. Novak’s item is about and reject it totally.”

    A good response, except Wolfson shouldn’t have added fuel to the fire with this, “Experienced Democrats see this for what it is. Others get distracted and thrown off their games,” Although a it is worth noting that this is a non-denial-denial.

  • Shalimar,
    You ask: “To phrase that a little differently, would all the people asserting that Hillary and Bill Clinton are just as sleazy on the campaign trail as Bush was in 2000 please provide at least a little evidence?”

    I think that most here, if not all, to include you, would not attempt to delineate a politician’s sleaziness as between “campaign trail” or just general conduct of potilical business. On that premise, Hillary has a long and documented history of sleaze before she was ever on anyone’s campaign trail. Whether it be her sliming of those on the benefactor end of all of Bill’s bimbo eruptions, or Travelgate, here’s a question for you: Why did Bill lock up all the papers which document Hillary’s participation in such smears until 2012 ? This ain’t rocket science. I’m a pretty staunch Conservative, but every candidate on the stage with her at UNLV has a lower sleaze quotient than she, and a few could actually be good honest Presidents IMMHO. So, if the Hillary lemmings out there want to wear the blinders to her past sleaze … nominate her ! Either as a nominee, or even if elected, she bodes good things for the future of the Republican Party. Its only a question of whether or not they are short or long-term benefits.

  • People still care what the “douchebag of liberty” says about anything?

    Huh.

    More evidence that people are stupid, I guess.

  • Why the hell would anyone with a single functioning brain cell believe a word from Novak? The man has proved himself to be sleeze and I wouldn’t even bother to read a word from his mouth. Obama and his staff should know better and the fact that they don’t speaks volumns to me…won’t be getting my vote.

  • Why did Bill lock up all the papers which document Hillary’s participation in such smears until 2012 ?

    As with every other attempt to smear Clinton that I know of, this one turned out to be false earlier this week and the media outlet pushing it (I forget which one it was) apologized for it’s mistake. Bill Clinton didn’t do anything to keep Hillary’s papers secret. As far as I know, all of the supposed evidence of her sleaze has been made up (though I can’t remember the final resolution of Travelgate anymore, someone will have to help me there). If you had hundreds of people devoting their lives to making shit up about you, you would seem to be a slimeball too. Doesn’t mean it would be true.

  • And I guess I should add, yet again, like most actual progressives on the internet I don’t like being put in the position of defending the Clintons. I don’t like their politics, I hope never to be forced to vote for either of them (just like I’m guessing most social conservatives hope to never have to vote for Giuliani), but I still find it sickening to watch what is done to them. The Clintons are politicians, they are hardly squeaky clean, but at the same time most of the trash on them is flat-out made up. When the same people (we’ll start with Limbaugh, Goldberg, Ted Olsen, et. al.) lie to you over and over, eventually those people should lose credibility. For some strange reason, among conservatives it just makes them a stronger member of the team since they’re lying about the opposition. That’s not morality, it’s winning-is-the-only-value raised to an artform.

  • ” For some strange reason, among conservatives it just makes them a stronger member of the team since they’re lying about the opposition. That’s not morality, it’s winning-is-the-only-value raised to an artform.”

    Shalimar Shalimar. Now you must smear conservatives as putting “winning above ethics”, being too caught in “lying”, etc. Is it possible that you are more of the Clinton ilk than you care to acknowledge ?

  • Maybe the real issue here is that HRC is a magnet for this kind of behavior. I cannot understand how or why the Democratic Party would decide to push the most divisive candidate that they can offer. Perhaps if she really did have a vision for changing the way this nation works it would be worth it; unfortunately, the only change i can see coming from an HRC administration is that business as usual would happen under the banner of the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.

    Jim @ 33 pretty well sums it up from the Republican perspective, and that makes me wonder if the conservative acceptance of HRC is as much long-term strategy as it is giving in to the ‘inevitable’. Moreover, a Clinton nomination is probably the Republicans best shot at not losing the White House. It may be the one thing that could unite the party behind whichever weak candidate that they nominate. Rudy will have a hard time turning out the all-important fundamentalist vote, but Hillary will bring them out in droves.

    I won’t vote for her, but i’ve come to dislike the constant attacks on her. (even if i’ve done some of it myself) None-the-less, i’ve also come to the conclusion that her campaign is more about her than it is about a Democratic victory. She would be more valuable to the party, and her core issues, as a prominent and powerful Senator…but it seems that the Senate is not prominent or powerful enough for her personal ambitions.

  • Shalimar, I couldn’t be more sympathetic to your frustration at being (or feeling) compelled to defend the Clintons simply because, while they’re unsavory, the people who *really* hate them are, as Mr. Olbermann might put it, the Worst People in the World.

    (This is probably Reason #2 why I simply wish they, along with all the Bushes and all the pundits, would go away to some remote island where they could run against each other in perpetuity, leaving the rest of us to try and rebuild our politics. Reason #1 is that they clog up the Democratic Party; they suck up so much oxygen, with their organization and their endless drama, that real progressives can’t breathe.)

    And Jim in Orlando, if you don’t see the right-wing tendency to lie and smear and distort and destroy simply to retain or add Power, I would suggest you haven’t been paying attention these last ten years. The very reason I deplore the Clintons is because they’re so “Republican” in the kind of politics they practice. Your party is still Tom DeLay’s party, and that guy makes the Clintons look like saints.

  • Novak tells a lie? Stop the presses! Real journalists have been quicked to denounce this POS. But then that’s what Novak writes – POS.

  • Shalimar Shalimar. Now you must smear conservatives as putting “winning above ethics”, being too caught in “lying”, etc.

    Pointing out an obvious truth is hardly a smear. Republicans as a rule have no ethics. There are many exceptions but it’s defintely easier to assume the negative until proven wrong. You’re right that I shouldn’t have used the word “conservatives” though, there are many American conservatives who don’t agree with what has happened to their party, and most foreign conservatives wouldn’t even recognize those who claim that mantle in this country.

  • Shalimar writes: ” Pointing out an obvious truth is hardly a smear. Republicans as a rule have no ethics. There are many exceptions but it’s defintely easier to assume the negative until proven wrong.”

    At this point, to make an effort to debate the merits of this particular view would be a large waste of time. It is best left for others to judge all by itself. I thank you for displaying a critical point about those who claim it is others who smear.

  • I think that most readers here can see this all well enough. But for the more learning disabled, I would consider anything remotely similar to a statement such as “most liberals have no ethics” to be a smear on a liberal or liberals.

    Now, here’s one for you. Do you grasp the concept of a “gift that keeps giving”? I thank you in advance on both counts.

  • IF OBAMA READ THIS, HE’D HAVE THE DIRT ON HILLARY

    Like a good many Americans, I don’t want either Clinton back in the White House. What is past is prologue. But before we help Hillary unpack at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue – consider the incidence of Al Qaeda flight students, trained at the University of Bill Clinton. It’s a straightforward matter. Take a moment; find an utterance, one misstatement of fact. Hillary Clinton: Positively Pandering, Definitely Duplicitous, Ultimately Unelectable: http://theseedsof9-11.com

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