Now that’s Hardball

A month ago, Fouad Ajami, a prominent neocon at Johns Hopkins, wrote a bizarre op-ed for the Wall Street Journal in Scooter Libby’s defense. “In ‘The Soldier’s Creed,'” Ajami wrote, “there is a particularly compelling principle: ‘I will never leave a fallen comrade.’ … [Libby] can’t be left behind as a casualty of a war our country had once proudly claimed as its own.”

Yesterday, David Shuster, guest hosting MSNBC’s Hardball, took Ajami to task for comparing Libby to American troops. Take a few minutes and watch the clip. You’ll be glad you did.

For those who can’t watch video clips online, Shuster hammered Ajami relentlessly, not just for the comparison, but for repeating false claims about the Libby case. As TP noted, “When Ajami tried to claim that Libby wasn’t a leaker of Plame’s identity, Shuster quickly debunked him, noting that it came out at trial that seven different people in the administration revealed Plame’s identity in a concerted campaign to out her. ‘Why did Libby lie to the FBI?’ Schuster asked. A flummoxed Ajami could only falsely claim, ‘I don’t know that he did.'”

Just as importantly, Shuster invited Paul Rieckhoff, executive director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), to appear via phone during the segment. Rieckhoff said of Ajami’s comparison, “I think it’s absurd. It’s a new low and an act of desperation here to defend a man by comparing him to fallen soldiers…. Part of the soldier’s creed is to uphold the Army values and live the Army values. Those values include honor, integrity, and personal courage. They don’t include lying and breaking the law. So I think it’s really an absurd analogy.”

But beyond this just being a compelling moment of television journalism, it’s worth taking a moment to note the sense of excitement surrounding the MSNBC segment.

In one sense, this should be routine. A marginal neocon appeared on MSNBC to talk about a column he wrote a month ago. A professional broadcaster, who knew what he was talking about, pointed out the guest’s errors of fact and judgment for the benefit of the television audience. At the risk of sounding ridiculous, this is what TV shows are supposed to do. It should barely cause a ripple.

But exchanges like the one between Shuster and Ajami are so rare, that we see them and can barely contain our excitement. What should be routine has become extraordinary — a TV host effectively articulating a progressive approach with facts and reason.

I particularly enjoyed Digby’s take.

If you get a chance, watch David Shuster turn Fouad Ajami into a blubbering puddle of melting playdough on Hardball today. It is an awe inspiring performance by a reporter who knows the facts and refuses to let these neocon liars bluster and bloviate about irrelevancies. […]

Made me almost feel like the world is setting itself back on its axis — at least for today.

I suspect that conservatives would find all of this rather odd. Far-right TV personalities spout off conservative ideas on the air every day; why would all these lefties get so excited about one on-air smackdown?

It’s because we’re left with a media environment in which segments like Shuster’s are the exception to the rule.

I thought never leaving a fallen comrade behind was a Marine principle- sounds to me like the army copied it from them. Sorry if I’m stating an inaccuracy- I hope a more knowledgeable person than me can fact-check me.

  • Ah, now I understand. I am what’s called a war defector probably because I “can’t handle metaphors.” I just hope that someday I will not become a political prisoner.

    But I still don’t understand why Chris Matthews still has a job. Probably because he smells like cheap cologne or something.

    David Shuster for President!

  • How refreshing!

    Both guests have time and space to speak and make their points without being yelled at or have their mikes cut off.

    Firm, yet not rude. Never thought I’d see that on the SCLM.

  • After watching Keith Olbermann’s editorial asking Bush and Cheney to resign, I wrote to MSNBC and praised them for allowing Keith the opportunity to speak what so many of us have been thinking for so long. I asked them to continue to provide the public with the truth because we deserve to hear it. Maybe I wasn’t the only one that said that and maybe the message is finally getting through to them? One can hope.

  • I wasn’t so amazed that Shuster was willing to debunk Adjami’s vapid claims as how well Shuster knew his sh*t. Shuster popped off info about the Libby case that even someone who paid attention to the case may not be aware of. I commend Shuster for not only doing his job as host of Hardball but for also doing his homework ahead of time. I would pay to see Shuster do his thing at a White House press briefing and can only dream of what it would be like to see him interview Bush or Cheney or Gonzales.

    Spontaneous acts of journalism such as Shuster’s and Olberman’s may actually compel me to turn on the TV once again.

  • As if Bush, Cheney, Libby, Feith, Perle, and the rest of these lowlifes knew anything about soldier’s honor.

  • It’s very sad that such an interview is remarkable. Interviews like that should be the norm.

  • Maybe the major broadcast corpse will figure out that what The Daily Show does as comedy will work equally well (in terms of profit) on “serious” news shows. Hell, if they can just come to realize that their shows are a bigger joke than TDS or CR that would be a start.

  • Wow.

    It’s sad that this is so uncommon these days that an interview, a real interview, is an event.

  • I agree, N.Wells- how is it that journalism has sunk so low that an anchor doing a competent job on an interview (and effectively calling bullshit when he sees it) is some kind of news?

  • Oh, baby. It don’t get much more beautifuler than that.

    But there was still one pretty questionable argument that I thought the Shuster did kind of let Ajami get by him. While it’s certainly true that an overwhelming majority of Americans — 70-something percent if memory serves — supported going into Iraq, most only did so because they had gotten the impression from somewhere (I wonder where…) that Iraq was gong to be some kind of pay-back for 9/11.

    I also get really tired of people letting Bush skate on exceeding the authority congress granted him (remember this was before exceeding authority had emerged as the theme of his administration) by committing troops without meeting, or after making only a farcical show of meeting, the preconditions for the use of force that were spelled out in the resolution. To this day, the Left would still rather hang Democrats in congress for voting to grant what authority they did grant than admit that Bush was guilty of any wrongdoing there. And of course no one on the Right is ever going to call him out on it. Some may be finally starting to realize what a bad idea it was but accountability still ain’t exactly their bag. So he ends up getting a free pass from both sides.

  • I think Shuster’s utter disdain for Ajami came through when he asked Riekoff if someone like Scooter Libby, who has been convicted of four felonies, would even be allowed to serve in the military.

    Then he asked Ajami if he wanted to apologize for the Iraqi war.

    Then he blistered Ajami right at the end by saying I’m not going to let you link 9/11 to the Iraq War, when everyone knows there is/was no link there.

    Beautiful.

  • Post-script:

    Can we just start calling it “Hardball with David Shuster. Chris Matthews (that douchebag) is on assignment.”

  • Yes, it is a sad commentary that hardball questions on Hardball should seem so amazing.

    David Shuster knows his stuff, obviously from covering the Libby trial and the Plamegate investigation, and he showed his skill as a reporter, in asking revealing questions of people who — in Ajami’s case – are trying to forward a dishonest argument.

    I hope MSNBC realizes what an asset they have in David Shuster. Putting Shuster and Olbermann back-to-back would present a strong alternative to Fox Noise and the Comatose News Network.

  • Keith Olbermann’s editorial

    Keith Olbermann and 60 Minutes should both be looking into getting him a place on the show when his contract runs up. They’re a really good place for a guy like him- either he can be groomed to be a journalist by the old ones there before they all retire (it’s got to be coming soon) or he can be an Andy Rooney there (seems they’d have to give him a little more space than Rooney gets, though, since he already gets to be in front of the camera so much on his show, and do his own “editorials” already. But then, probably a lot more people watch 60 Minutes…) The real heroes on 60 Minutes are getting old, and that’s just a fact of life, and they need someone they can count on to fill their shoes before it’s time to pass the torch. I never watched the show that much, but it’s nonetheless a really great American institution and it would be sad to see it fade away or turn into something else.

  • I watch Hardball because I like David Shuster’s reporting. Chris Matthews is a joke. The other night when he was trying to get Joe Wilsons lawyer to admit to something about the Clinton impeachment, he just sounded like a jerk. When Shuster was gong after Ajami, he was being a journalist. An hour of Hardball with Shuster followed by an hour of Olberman would be great!

  • I vote for Shister to take over in Joe Scars old timeslot. Please God, talk Dan Abrahams out of giving that slot to Dan Abrahams, he really practices tabloid journalism.

    I had to quit watching Hardball, I scared the cats cussing every day.

  • Fouad Ajami (which country is that name from?) should take a lit. course or two, to find out the meaning of the word “metaphor”. Since he’s at Johns Hopkins, finding such a course shouldn’t be much of a problem.

  • Shuster popped off info about the Libby case that even someone who paid attention to the case may not be aware of.

    Yeah, Shuster covered the case and the trial for MSNBC. He’s a sharp young man and I would like to see him get Scarborough’s spot at MSNBC. I think he’d pull good ratings following Olbermann.

    After that, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert and you’re talking about some pretty good TV.

  • I wrote MSNBC and told them about how much I enjoyed David Shuster and his guest panel.

    For one thing, it was the first time I recall seeing Dan Froomkin of the Washington Post on television; and certainly much better than Ann Coulter, Pat Buchanan and even Morning Joe.

  • For once I got to see someone not play nice or kiss up trying to be pleasant but hold his ground and not let these smug hypocrites get away with their lies. He was so desperate he through out names like candy…Bill Clinton…9/11…General Petraeus…Clinton’s impeachment prosecutor……This guy likes to think he is an expert on Iraq but he’s never said anything that wasn’t a Bush talking point. We are supposed to be impressed because he has an Arabic accent which he has maximized to his advantage as if it’s supposed to give the conceited little twerp credibility. He is a traitor to both countries who is frustrated because he thinks he deserves a bigger piece of the pie.

    God that was nice to watch…really made my night. Simply because it was the truth for once. Mathews doesn’t hold a candle to Schuster.

  • I have to weigh in on the Shuster pile one here… I’ve long appreciated his contributions to the whole Plame story, even if they came on Tweety’s ragtime. Yes, give him his own show, put Tweety on ‘permanent vacation,’ and let David (I’m Fred Flinstone) tell it like it is! And is anyone else curious about how JoeBLOW has disappeared into Dan Abrams after his remark about Thompson’s “pole dancing” wifey? Haven’t seen anyone commenting on that lately… Hmmm?

    In any case, I’m glad JoeBLOW is gone for at least now, and agree, Olbermann/Shuster would be a bang up combo!

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