Nuclear Week, Day Two

There were widespread reports yesterday that Bill Frist and Harry Reid have been engaged in intense negotiations since late last week, trying to find some compromise to steer away from the looming nuclear option showdown. Yesterday, those discussions came to an abrupt halt.

Talks by the Senate’s top two leaders to try and avert a showdown over President Bush’s judicial nominees came to a halt on Monday.

“The negotiations are over,” declared Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, as he emerged from a meeting with his Republican counterpart, Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee.

“I’ve tried to compromise (but) they want all or nothing, and I can’t do that.” Reid told reporters. “So now it will be decided on the Senate floor, hopefully this week.”

Reid added that he doesn’t believe Frist is even “capable” of “working something out on this.” On this, Reid couldn’t be more right. At this point, Frist has no options.

Frist can’t agree to a deal that would leave a single Bush nominee behind, he can’t delay the fight, and perhaps most importantly, he doesn’t even know if he has the votes to win a floor fight. Discussions with Reid were probably a waste from the start — Frist simply didn’t have any room to move. No wonder Frist came to the negotiating table saying, “Give me everything I want and then we’ll talk.”

Indeed, USA Today reported this morning that Pennsylvania’s Arlen Specter and Virginia’s John Warner are “reluctant” to back the nuclear option should a vote come up this week. And if Specter and Warner vote against the nuclear option, it’s hard to envision a scenario in which Frist wins.

This does not mean, however, that all negotiations have ceased. In fact, the end of talks between Frist and Reid actually increases talk among other senators who still hope to strike a compromise.

As of last week, lawmakers who had been working on a deal scaled back their efforts out of deference to the party leaders. Now that the leaders have stopped talking, caucus discussions have begun again. Trent Lott is no longer part of the search for a compromise, but John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) are talking.

Under one possible plan — called the “six-by-six” deal and circulated in writing among lawmakers yesterday — Dems would only block three nominees but allow every other controversial nominee to be confirmed on the Senate floor. Republicans, in turn, would agree to leave the filibuster rule in place, at least through 2006. (To call this an equitable “compromise” is almost comical.)

Barring the success of “six-by-six,” the nominations of Janice Rogers Brown and Priscilla Owen will come to the floor this week, as soon as the Senate wraps up consideration of its transportation bill. Which side will have the votes? Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell (R-Ken.) insists he has the 50 he needs, but Reid struck an optimistic note yesterday: “I’m confident and hopeful that there will be six Republican senators who will be profiles in courage.”

Stay tuned.

Can we anticipate another situation where voting will be kept open for hours, (day’s?), while arms are twisted to help republican opponents and reluctant fence sitters see the error of their ways?

Past instances of intimidation and slimey persuasion make it difficult to imagine any republican being a lock on this. Especially when Cheney will be waiting for his opportunity to put this thing over the top.

Give ’em hell Harry!

  • Warner might already be a “no”–the American Family Association is sending out frenzied email alerts urging people to call Warner’s offices and tell him to hit the button. Also, on dKos, someone quoted unnamed Repub sources that Collins is already a no.

  • Frist can’t agree to a deal that would leave a single Bush nominee behind, he can’t delay the fight, and perhaps most importantly, he doesn’t even know if he has the votes to win a floor fight.

    Reminds me of C.P. Snow’s version of the Three Laws of Thermodynamics:

    1. You can’t win — you don’t get something for nothing; matter and energy are conserved.

    2. You can’t break even — entropy always increases.

    3. You can’t leave the game — absolute zero is unreachable.

  • Here’s what the moderate Republicans will do: Piss and moan that they are against the nuclear option, rail at the politics and puppetmasters that brought the Senate to this place, decry the effects the lack of filibuster will have, then vote with their Party and president because, like Peter in “Office Space” going to work on Saturdays, their just big pussies.

  • The DNC has arranged a conference call with Reid for tommorrow at 11:45 am eastern. Go here to submit your question. (I hope this link works without breaking the thread.)

  • Who the hell does Ben Nelson and others of his ilk (especially “Kiss Me” Lieberman) think they are? Do they think that they know best on how to protect the Senate’s unique nature from this thuggish power play?

    This fight is over the same seven nominees that the Dems blocked in the last Congress by use of the filibuster. And WHY do we have this fight? Because Bush, when declaring victory on November 3, 2004, said he wanted to cooperate “with those who agree with me”, then picked this fight by renominating the same filbustered-and-rejected seven nominees!! And these few Dems want to now say, OK, we’ll bend over and let you fuck the Senate minority’s rights forevermore. And if the nulcear option works, I bet these fools will believe that the Repugs will do it only for judicial nominees; it won’t be long before it is also applied to other executive nominees AND to legislation, too.

    As I’ve said before on this site on this topic: NO WAY IN HELL. NO FUCKING WAY. Any Dem who engineers this deserves to slapped out of office. In fact, if this six-by-six happens, I predict that the Dems will lose even more seats in the 2006 mid-terms; the message to the voters will be confirmed that the Dems don’t stand for shit — so why vote for them?

  • Vitriol aside, I have to agree with Analytical Liberal. If Dems cave on this, why should anyone vote for them?

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