Nuclear Week — Undecided Watch

The six-by-six negotiators will continue to try and work out some kind of deal that will short circuit the nuclear option. But let’s say it doesn’t work out and the matter comes to the floor tomorrow for a vote. How’s this going to play out? Harry Reid says he’s “cautiously optimistic,” while Mitch McConnell answered “yes” yesterday when asked on Face the Nation whether he has the votes.

So, let’s take a look at the latest word from the senators who haven’t publicly announced their position.

* Arlen Specter — Specter not only hasn’t announced how he’ll vote, he literally hasn’t told anyone yet, including Frist and his staff. Dems believe Frist and others may try and remove Specter’s committee chairmanship as punishment for voting the “wrong” way on the nuclear option, so Harry Reid has consulted with the Senate parliamentarian and told Specter that — you guessed it — Dems will filibuster any attempt to remove Specter’s gavel. As a side note, many on the Hill seem to believe that Specter, who is battling Hodgkin’s disease, will not run for re-election at the end of his term in 2010, suggesting that he’s less susceptible to party pressure.

* John Warner — The NYT’s David Brooks had a column over the weekend listing Warner, the senior senator from Virginia, as one of the Republican senators who “will vote against the nuclear option.” Of course, Brooks isn’t particularly reliable, so don’t take that one to the bank. Warner seems to be the least predictable member of the chamber on this issue. He’s said he sees unlimited debate as a “hallmark of the Senate,” but he also added that he “strongly opposes” judicial filibusters. He’s clearly uncomfortable with the nuclear option — he’s helping to spearhead negotiations to avoid it — but that doesn’t mean he’ll vote against it.

* Susan CollinsRoll Call reported this morning that “Republicans have privately suspected that Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a moderate who has been actively engaged in the centrist talks, would join her home-state colleague Snowe in opposing” the nuclear option. If so, Reid has four of the six votes he’ll need.

* Mike DeWine — Ohio’s DeWine hasn’t been on everyone’s vote-count watchlist, but he attended a six-by-six negotiation meeting last week and later said he believes filibusters on judicial nominees are an option that should be left open. “We should have that option in very extreme case,” DeWine said. Asked how he could vote to abolish filibusters when he believes they are proper in rare circumstances, DeWine said, “I’m trying to avoid two bad alternatives.”

* Chuck Hagel — Activists on both sides still consider Hagel a toss-up, recent comments not withstanding. Interestingly, though he has expressed reservations about the nuclear option, Hagel refused to participate in McCain’s negotiation discussions, dismissing the very idea as “unfair.”

* Lindsey Graham — Graham was expected to fall in line behind Frist, but he’s not there quite yet. Graham’s participated in all of the six-by-six discussions and has not yet taken a firm stand on how he’ll vote tomorrow. James Dobson’s Focus on the Family appears be very worried about how Graham will vote, lashing out at the South Carolinian in an alert to Focus members late last week.

In one interesting twist, Reid told some regional reporters late last week that he had received a “private commitment” from a fourth Republican to oppose the nuclear option, whom he would not identify by name. Was he referring to Collins, or someone unexpected?

Just a reminder, unless an unexpected compromise is reached tonight or early tomorrow, Reid needs six Republican votes to win and beat back the nuclear option. John McCain, Linc Chafee, and Olympia Snowe are on board, and Collins sounds like she’ll vote against it. Dems will therefore need two out of Specter, Warner, DeWine, Hagel, and Graham.

My prediction: Dems win, 51-49. Feel free to add your prediction in the comments section.

Dems win, 52-48. Spector, Warner and Hagel all go with the Dems. Spector and Hagel on principal and Warner to make Frist look really bad to the religous right base.

  • Wish I could be more optimistic, but I think Frist will win this 51-49, with only Collins from your list above joining the Dems. Specter’s and Warner’s committee chairmanships may be threatened, so they’ll fall behind Frist. DeWine is up for reelection next year, and while I don’t know all the specifics of his race, I’d say he’ll need his party’s support. Hagel? Nah. And Graham? Please.

    That said, I certainly hope I am wrong.

  • I’m always wrong about these things, so I’m hoping my luck holds when I say Repubs 51/Dems 49.

  • I’m with stgermh. When was the last time Republicans surprised us and did the right thing on something important?

    GOP 52, America 48

  • apparently, reid asked senate parliamentarian this question: can the removal of a senator from chair of committee be filibustered? (brilliant!) answer: yes! reid has told this to spector

  • I think that the Dems will lose 50-50. I don’t think Hagel, Graham or DeWine will ultimately want to face the wrath of their party over this. Specter knows what it was like last year when the right wing had their long knives out for him, I doubt he’ll want to go back.

    However, keep an eye on Lugar, Bennett and Roberts, all three respect the institution and have said things against the filibuster. I don’t think that they will vote against, but if one breaks, all three may.

  • America loses big time if this power grab succeeds. I truly expect that if the Republicans win this fight they will use the new rule changes to kill the filibuster not just for judges, but across the board. And who knows which other newly vulnerable Senate rules will be left open to change when they become inconvenient?

    That said, part of me will be glad when Tuesday is over no matter which way it goes. The antici…pation is killing me.

  • Scratch Roberts and Bennett off the list–both of them declared strongly for the nuclear option on the floor today.

    I didn’t think Bennett would have a moment of reality-based thinking, but Roberts … I thought for sure he’d break our way.

  • can the removal of a senator from chair of committee be filibustered? (brilliant!) answer: yes!

    aReader, I did read about that in the WP, but what about when the next Congress rolls around in January 2007? I don’t know all the rules about chairmanships (should look it up, but I’m lazy), but it seems the Republicans on those committees could just select new chairmen at the beginning of a new Congress. Considering chair term limits, Specter could serve through the next two Congresses as Judiciary chairman if he stays in their graces (and, not to be grim, doesn’t die); Warner can serve one more. They might not want to chance it.

  • Collins is gutless, and just got re-elected, so she has no toes to hold to the fire. The GOP apparat can make her life far more unpleasant than Mainers can at this point. Hell, she doesn’t even have to turn up in the state again till the fall of 2007.

    She got not one, but three horses’ heads put in her bed — though lord knows who they had to toss out of it to make room, since rumour has it that Collins is living proof you can fuck your brains out — by BRAC, and I don’t think even she is dumb enough to not figure out the message.

    They’ll go through some cosmetic ‘recondsideration’ process, close the bases anyways, and Senator Susie Creamcheese (R-Codependent) will say ‘Please sir, I want some more’ — because even abuse is attention.

  • Dems win, with 51-48. In addition to those mentioned in the article, Specter and Warner will vote against the Nuclear Option. It will go down in flames, and make Frist a joke.

  • The Americans might win bigger than you think. Lots of the R senators despise the nuclear option, and might move together, to lessen the chance of retaliation. “I am Spartacus.”

  • Cheney breaks a 50-50 tie in his role as president of the senate. Republicans go nuclear. Next year the restacking of the supreme court begins. Within a decade goodbye Roe V Wade. Complete ban on stem cell research, teaching evolution. Constitution amended twice before 2008. Once to ban gay marrage. Then to allow GW to run for another four years. I’m already making the bumper stickers. Redefeat bush in ’08.

  • Hagel is a pretender, just as Roberts showed himself to be today — the speculation about Roberts was always a joke, and Hagel has yet to show ANY independence when it’s crunch time. Before that, sure he talks a good “I haven’t made up my mind” blather, but he’ll punk out.

    I think the key is Collins. Specter and Warner will vote against the nuclear option, thanks to Reid’s commitment to filibuster any attempts to remove them as their respective Committee chairs. DeWine’s imminent reelection bid will cause him to stay with the Repugs.

    If my count is right, WITH Collins the nuclear option fails 51-49 (and Cheney can go to hell). WITHOUT Collins, we lose 51-50 (because Cheney fucks the Senate, the Constitution, and America).

    My Wild Card? Voinovich. Process and collegiality is very important to him, as most of us following the Bolton nomination have learned. That will be lost if Frist blows up the Senate, so maybe Voinovich will vote against him. Anyone have any solid ideas about whether Voinovich has publicly announced his intentions?

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