NYT endorses Gonzales impeachment

The New York Times apparently wasn’t won over by the data-mining defense. Today, the paper’s editorial board raises the specter of impeaching the attorney general.

As far as we can tell, there are three possible explanations for Mr. Gonzales’s talk about a dispute over other — unspecified — intelligence activities. One, he lied to Congress. Two, he used a bureaucratic dodge to mislead lawmakers and the public: the spying program was modified after Mr. Ashcroft refused to endorse it, which made it “different” from the one Mr. Bush has acknowledged. The third is that there was more wiretapping than has been disclosed, perhaps even purely domestic wiretapping, and Mr. Gonzales is helping Mr. Bush cover it up.

Democratic lawmakers are asking for a special prosecutor to look into Mr. Gonzales’s words and deeds. Solicitor General Paul Clement has a last chance to show that the Justice Department is still minimally functional by fulfilling that request.

If that does not happen, Congress should impeach Mr. Gonzales.

How unusual is this? Josh Marshall explains that no sitting cabinet secretary in the history of the country has ever been impeached. Not one.

But there’s a very good reason for that — it’s never been this necessary before. Under political norms that used to be taken seriously, scandal-ridden cabinet secretaries would resign or be fired. Bush is rewriting the rule book, so unprecedented measures such as impeaching the Attorney General are suddenly required.

The normal course when a cabinet secretary has been implicated in grave wrongdoing or has lost the confidence of the overwhelming number of senators (which I think he clearly has, though partisan loyalty has kept many Republicans from saying it) is for him or her to resign. And if they won’t see fit to resign the president fires them since if nothing else the person can’t fulfill the responsibilities of office under those debilitating circumstances.

But then there is the big ‘unless’.

Unless the president is party to the wrongdoing that placed the cabinet secretary in jeopardy. And that is clearly the case we have here, which explains the historical anomaly that the possibility of Gonzales’ impeachment is even a topic of serious conversation.

On a related note, Oliver Willis takes a stroll down memory lane to remind us of this gem: “Do you remember that Alberto Gonzales was on the ‘short list‘ of Supreme Court nominees for the Bush administration?”

It’s a scary bunch of folks.

Clearly, something must be done to show the White House that their actions have consequences and that this is not a monarchy. Impeaching Bush and/or Cheney would be problematic, even though it is justifiable. Going after Gonzales would send the same message, it is richly justifiable, it can be done, and it might even end in conviction or resignation.

I say start the impeachment engine tomorrow at the latest.

  • Wow. Clinton’s blowjob is worth impeachment yet lying to get into Iraq and killing/maiming thousands and the crimes listed in the NYT editorial is not.

    Isn’t it Ironic (makes about as much sense as Alanis)

    A Repub wanted no marriage of gays
    He won the vote and outed the next day
    It’s some e-Coli on your spinach greens
    It’s admitting facts two years too late
    Isn’t it ironic … don’t you think

    It’s like the NSA on your phone line
    It’s that huge debt with Chinese credit to be paid
    It’s denying good advice like “Don’t fucking invade!”
    Who would’ve thought … it figures

    Mr. Born to Kill was afraid to fight
    He loaded his speeches about fighting that fight
    He avoided his whole damn life to lead that fight
    And as Iraq crashed down he thought
    ‘Well isn’t this nice…’
    And isn’t it ironic … don’t you think

    It’s like the NSA on your phone line
    It’s that huge debt with Chinese credit to be paid
    It’s denying good advice like “Don’t fucking invade!”
    Who would’ve thought … it figures

    Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
    When you think spin is real and subversion is right
    And life has a funny way of smacking you out when
    You did everything plain wrong and everything blows up
    In your face

    It’s a subpoena when you’re already lied
    It’s an NY Times impeach ed in your Sunday paper
    It’s like fifty thousand troops when all you need is “Surge”
    It’s subverting the law of the land
    And then using it do your bidding
    And isn’t it ironic… don’t you think
    A little too ironic… and yeah I really do think…

    It’s like the NSA on your phone line
    It’s that huge debt with Chinese credit to be paid
    It’s denying good advice like “Don’t fucking invade!”
    Who would’ve thought … it figures

    Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
    Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
    Helping you out

  • From Think Progress,

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), appearing on ABC’s This Week, said “of course” Gonzales has a credibility problem. On MSNBC’s Hardball on Friday, Rep. Chris Cannon (R-UT), the ranking member of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law, squirmed when asked by host Chris Matthews if he thought Gonzales “is a good attorney general?” Cannon refused to answer the question, offering instead, “He’s a good guy.”

    National Review Online’s Jonah Goldberg, a reliable partisan defender of the Bush administration, admitted on Thursday that the evidence against Gonzales is compelling. “I think Gonzales has long, long, long outserved whatever usefulness he might once have had,” wrote Goldberg. “And — hey — maybe he actually did perjure himself.”

    In addition, Newtie would defend Gonzales on Faux this morning and Chris Wallace informed his viewers that no conservatives would come on the show to do so.

    I think Gonzales is a goner. And for all of you who think the House should immediately impeach Bush and/or Cheney, remember that impeachment proceedings against Gonzales will likely produce a treasure trove of information about how the White House operates. On the other hand, I am sure that Cheney and Rove understand this and Gonzales will resign before impeachment proceeding against Gonzales get off the ground.

  • Finally!
    Is our whole company asleep?
    Why are We, the People not screaming from our rooftops about this administration?
    I used to blame the Republicans for allowing Bush et al to get away with all of this, but we all bear some responsibility for are lack of action.
    History will not be kind to George W Bush, but they will rightly ask about the people who did nothing to stop him.

  • If Gonzales was honorable, he’d have resigned the instant there was a perceived credibility problem.

  • News of Gonzo’s demise is greatly exaggerated.
    This cad isn’t going anywhere:

    He is both a stonewall and a firewall: The shield that will not yield.
    Gonzo’s purpose now is to take the hard fouls and run out the clock.

    He is fungible.
    Time is finite.
    The wall must forestall!

    Regarding Rege’s comment:

    …remember that impeachment proceedings against Gonzales will likely produce a treasure trove of information about how the White House operates.

    True.
    But all of us here know how the WH operates:

    “I am the decider” & “The Constitution is a piece of paper.”

    Putting those two quotes together there really is only one conclusion:

    The depth of Bush’s malfeasance isn’t deeper than we imagine, it is deeper than we can imagine.

  • The Gonzales semi-defenders are defending Bush, quite naturally–what else can they do?

    And AG obviously knows where many of Bush’s skeletons are buried–he probably used the shovel a few times himself which makes him hard to dismiss.

    Good post btw–I’ve linked to it.

  • One more thought:

    Has anybody plunged the depths of Gonzo’s Confirmation hearings?

    There is this:

    Not since 1925, when the Senate twice rejected attorney general nominee Charles B. Warren, has a nominee received as few minority-party votes as Gonzales did, according to Senate historians.

    And hints of things to come:

    But a string of Democrats said Gonzales was unconvincing because he claimed not to recall details of his role in the drafting of an Aug. 1, 2002, Justice Department memo that narrowly defined what constituted torture…

    But only in one place is there mention of what SHOULD HAVE BEEN seen as most reprehensible fact in regards to Gonzales’s nomination!

    Namely:

    The BEST FRIEND of the President should NEVER be allowed to run one of the THREE branches of govt!

    I mean really!
    Isn’t that a no-brainer!

    Here is that small caveat:

    The ACLU and other advocacy groups also said the confirmation underscored the need for an independent commission to examine the Bush administration’s interrogation and detention policies.

    Suggenstion to journalists:

    1) Read Gonzo’s confirmation hearings. Does ANYBODY bring up the point that it might be a bad idea to have the best friend of the President run a branch of govt?

    2) In the history of the US, how many best friends have passed into power like Gonzo?

  • ROTFL@#6 exactly .Even if they start impeachment proceedings, I doubt he’ll resign. A confirmation hearing for a new AG would also bring out some dirty stuff. And they Dems would at least get a promise of a special prosecutor. My Guess Gonzo resigns the Friday after Senate recesses for August, and Dubs makes a recess appointment and pardons gonzo same day. The impeachment hearings should happen even after that. We have got to get to the bottom of this maladminstrations malfeasance. And we have to send a shot across the bow to Bush/Cheney? Rove that no more will be tolerated. And we will send a warning to any future administrations that the same games and power grabs will not be tolerated. Evah.

    And yes, you can be impeached after leaving government service. And it will stop you from ever serving again, and will keep you off of any future bench. Gonzo was smirking the other day, when he was being hammered even by members of his own party. That is a man who has nothing to fear and assumes that he will never be held accountable. Man, it pissed me off.

    And dear Senators. impeachment hearings should have begun 2 minutes after Gonzo said we had no rite to habeus corpus way back in Jan. And if Senators do not do this, they are just as complicit. End. Of. Rant.

  • But only in one place is there mention of what SHOULD HAVE BEEN seen as most reprehensible fact in regards to Gonzales’s nomination!

    Namely:

    The BEST FRIEND of the President should NEVER be allowed to run one of the THREE branches of govt!

    I mean really!
    Isn’t that a no-brainer!

    For a real attorney, this would have presented insurmountable ethics and conflict issues. It should go without saying that if you’ve represented the president as his personal attorney, you shouldn’t be in charge of a branch that is supposed to act as a check on the president’s power. Besides which, any second-year law student could tell you when you represent an entity, such as a corporation, you do not represent the officers and directors of the company and you have to keep your objectivity about the difference, ’cause you may have to take action on behalf of the corporation against the officers and directors. Indeed, there are very specific rules prohibiting representation of the directors and officers when you also, or have represented the corporation.

    Same here. The USAG represents the people of the United States, not the president or the veep or any of the elected officials or appointed directors.

    PS: Am I insane for thinking we should be drafting John Dean to run?

  • And for all of you who think the House should immediately impeach Bush and/or Cheney,[…] — rege, @3

    I think it’s a case of two different “imps” now, don’t you? Imp-each for Gonzo and imp-rison for the other two criminals.

  • Impeaching Gonzalez would be a personal favor to Bush — simply because he would avoid having to fire a buddy. It almost seems like Bush is begging Congress to act, since he can’t shoot Ol’ Yeller himself.

  • They all need to be impeached NOW. Mainstream corporate media gives the story no play. Napoleon once said the French royal family could have kept their thrones if they were clever enough to buy off the press. This goverment has done that. However, they didn’t plan on the Internet, did they?

    Call your representatives and demand impeachement for all of them. Action starts with us. The spirit of impeachment is growing. If any of you listen to Ed Schultz, he is a moderate who has come out for impeachment as well.

    Also:
    http://www.afterdowningstreet.org

    I am old enough to have lived through Watergate. We had to hammer the congress then, too. They are essentially lazy, will do only what they are pushed to do….like all bureaucrats.

  • Here’s a question:

    If Gonzales is replaced while Congress is on break, can Bush do so without confirmation?

  • The BEST FRIEND of the President should NEVER be allowed to run one of the THREE branches of govt!

    AGAG was never Little Georgie’s “best friend.” He was Little Georgie’s best Mexican houseboy. Still is.

    What about the brother of another President who served as Attorney General and his sense of moral outrage pushed his brother to confront the issue of civil rights earlier than he wanted to? Admittedly it’s unlikely we’ll ever see a pair of brothers like them again, but…

    Submitted for your consideration.

  • The BEST FRIEND of the President should NEVER be allowed to run one of the THREE branches of govt!

    How about the lover of the Presidents wife, Reno?

  • Bush is unlikely to fire Gonzo no matter what. Gonzo may suddenly develop a sense of scruples he has certainly not demonstrated to date and resign, but that would jeopardize his impicitly promised future sinacures. In any case, whatever unlikely change may occur will happen in August and Bush will make a recess appointment to avoid a confirmation hearing. The Dems may call him on it, but it will be just another battle between the WH and Congress leading no where.

    Come on. The rules have all changed. There’s no longer any pretense. Ethics, integrity, respect for the Constitution: it’s all history. We’re talking about money and power, which is what it’s always been about, but the stageset has been struck.

  • The BEST FRIEND of the President should NEVER be allowed to run one of the THREE branches of govt!

    How about the lover of the Presidents wife, Reno? — Skinner, @17

    What???? I’m “primarily, an ABC Democrat” (Anyone But Clinton, in the primaries) but this piece of garbage really sticks in my craw.

    The poor bitch had to put up with, and put a smiley face on, Billy and his Wandering Wand and, as if it weren’t enough, some skinhead, who’d managed to shave off most of his brain cellls with his hair, is sliming her up???

    Sheesh. And here I thought that TCBR had a higher than average class of commenters, even when it came to trolls…

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