Obama and policy details — the little meme that couldn’t

Matt Yglesias noted this morning that Barack Obama has been criticized, even by those sympathetic to him, for being somehow “insufficiently well-versed in policy matters.” Matt chalks this up to a lazy narrative: “Clinton is well-versed in policy but isn’t a charismatic figure, and Obama is charismatic so it ‘must’ be that he’s not well-versed in policy. He’s cool and she’s the nerd.” The narrative, of course, is bogus.

For one thing, these takes tend to have a certain vague quality to them and often are offered by people who don’t, themselves, have a particular aptitude for policy. I’ve never heard an anecdote that involved someone talking to Obama about some policy question and walking away feeling he had a notably poor grasp of the issue.

Meanwhile, this story is one of several narratives that seems to me to overlook his time in the Illinois State Senate. Obama didn’t have some vast army of staffers to rely on in that role, and he wasn’t just serving time there, either. He successfully authored and passed legislation and impressed a lot of Illinois progressives. Nor is the University of Chicago Law School in the habit of handing out teaching positions to dullards. […]

Last there’s the question of staff and advisors. The various smart people working with him on a whole variety of issues — starting with Samantha Power and Karen Kornbluh when he first got to the Senate and expanding ever since — don’t have any really compelling reasons to have been working with him unless they thought he was a smart, impressive person who was up to the task of doing a good job on the issues they care the most about.

All of this struck me as pretty compelling, until I saw Kevin Drum raise an interesting counter-point — that no one is actually making the argument that Matt is debunking. “There are no links in the post, and virtually everything I’ve ever read about Obama acknowledges that he’s scary smart and extremely well briefed,” Kevin said, adding, “Who are these people who think Obama is a policy naif?”

At first blush, I assumed Kevin was mistaken. After all, it seems like I hear the “Obama lacks policy chops” argument all the time. So, I checked The Google.

It turns out, Kevin seemed to be onto something. I searched for quite a few permutations — Obama with the words “lack specifics,” “weak details,” “thin details,” “all talk,” “lack substance,” “lack details,” etc. Oddly enough, I didn’t find nearly as much as I expected.

The AP ran an item criticizing Obama for providing “few details about how he would lead the country,” but that was last March, which in the context of the presidential campaign, might as well have been a century ago. There was a recent editorial in a Texas newspaper that recently said that Obama is “weak on details,” but the editorial itself wasn’t especially hard-hitting. The Hill recently ran a column knocking Obama’s “lack of specifics,” but it didn’t exactly get a lot of play.

It’s possible that there used to be more of these criticisms — Google seems to favor newer content — and that the negative critiques faded when they no longer made any sense, but after poking around for a while, I was pleasantly surprised that this knock on Obama, which never struck me as fair, wasn’t nearly as common as I expected.

That said, while Googling around, I did notice that the Obama “lacks specifics” charge was very common in blog comment sections (including mine). Perhaps that’s what led Matt (and me) to think the charge is common, while Kevin is right about the broader discussion.

Just a thought.

Update: As it turns out, just last night, on “60 Minutes,” Steve Kroft reported that Obama puts policy details “on his website, but not in his stump speech.” That’s true, of course, but who wants any presidential candidate in either party to combine speeches and white papers?

Second Update: Perhaps I spoke too soon? Time’s Mark Halperin writes today that one of Obama’s great advantages is “an electorate that seems oddly indifferent to conventional norms of preparedness for the job of commander-in-chief — and which appears even more indifferent to the existence (or absence) of detailed policy prescriptions despite the grave problems confronting the nation.” That’s pretty awful analysis given reality.

Matt chalks this up to a lazy narrative: “Clinton is well-versed in policy but isn’t a charismatic figure, and Obama is charismatic so it ‘must’ be that he’s not well-versed in policy. He’s cool and she’s the nerd.” The narrative, of course, is bogus.

THANK you. This has been driving me crazy and I’m glad to see it so succinctly put.

McCain has been drawn into this childish narrative too: “He’s an asshole so he must be a straight-talking, independent thinker”

  • McCain has been drawn into this childish narrative too: “He’s an asshole so he must be a straight-talking, independent thinker”

    Classic.

    And very good work, Steve.

  • Obama didn’t help himself with this meme when he attempted to honestly answer a debate question about naming a personal weakness. He said something about lack of organization and riffed on how as president he would not be the chief operating officer. I think that episode provides a lot of the legs for this.

  • Yes, this “substance free” critique seems to have been driven in the blogosphere by supporters of other candidates.

    You do hear variations of it in the mainstream media. For instance, just last night on 60 Minutes, Steve Kroft began his segment on Obama last night with this

    Last February, Barack Obama was a little-known African-American senator from Illinois with a campaign staff of 30, whose only known accomplishments were two best-selling books and a stirring speech at the Democratic convention three years earlier.

    He goes own to debunk the idea that he lacked accomplishments, but it didn’t stop him from highlighting it for the lede…

  • Well, he is lacking in specifics — just because no one really dwells on them, doesn’t make it a non-fact. To dwell on them would conflict with the media’s pushing of him.

  • That said, while Googling around, I did notice that the Obama “lacks specifics” charge was very common in blog comment sections (including mine). Perhaps that’s what led Matt (and me) to think the charge is common, while Kevin is right about the broader discussion.

    That nails it.
    Thank you.

  • “Who are these people who think Obama is a policy naif?”

    I’ll tell you one person who’s making that argument: Hillary.

    When she says that she’s “ready to lead from Day One” while “others haven’t thought it through”, just who do you think the “other” is?

  • He said that he doesn’t keep an organized desk. Plenty of organized people, especially laywers, tend to have offices that look like a tornado came through. As for not being a CEO President, I think that comment can cut both ways. Let’s take a look at our current CEO President and think about how well that’s working out.

  • You didn’t have to go much farther than this blog to find the “all fluff-no substance” argument. Last Friday, a commenter asked if any Obama supporters knew his economic policies, and then suggested that this is why we need more debates. The next night, she (or someone else using the same unusual name) wrote about how she was a Clinton spokesperson at one the Nebraska caucuses.

  • Obama can’t honestly think this whole “I was against the war from the start” thing is carrying any weight with people who are paying attention, if so I have some insight.. I have written down some myths about Obama, and thought I’d share..

    Myth: Obama has the experience needed to be president

    Truth: Obama decided to run for President after only 2 years as a US senator.. so, exactly 1/3 of his senate experience has been spent running for president. Additionally, in his short stint as a state senator, he spent much of that time trying to get elected to the US Congress, which might explain why he voted present 130 times as state senator, including a bill to prohibit sex-related shops from opening near schools or places of worship. The bill did not get the required three-fifths majority, so it did not pass.

    Myth: Obama voted against Iraq war

    Truth: He was not a US senator at the time, and yet he has the audacity to attack Hillary for actually trusting the official reports to the Senate from the US intelligence community which undeniably stated as fact that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s. Shame on you Obama!

    Myth: Obama & Clinton have the same voting record

    Truth: Since 1/1/07, Obama & Clinton have differed 37 times on important votes. Out of those 37 votes, 100% of them were because Obama chose NOT TO VOTE, which is reminiscent of his “present” votes as a state senator.

    Myth: Only Obama can win in the Fall

    Truth: Most of the independants and republicans voting in the democratic primaries for Obama are just trying to keep Hillary from getting the nomination so that they can turn around and vote for a republican in the fall.

    Myth: Bill & Hillary Clinton are racist.

    Truth: This is completely absurd, yet Obama has managed to get over 80% of blacks to vote for him since spreading this lie, which has tilted the scales in his advantage as whites are voting their conscience and blacks are voting for him because of the color of his skin. Shame on you again Obama! Bill & Hillary fought hard to help poor people including blacks for most of their extensive careers. Bill Clinton was dubbed the first black president for crying out loud!

    Myth: Obama’s health care is good for people with low income

    Truth: Poor people will still have to choose between health insurance and paying rent or putting food on the table since his plan does not cover everybody. Hillary’s plan does cover EVERYBODY, and only people who can pay for it are expected to pay.

    Go Hillary, I just hope people will open their eyes and realize that you are the real choice for Democrats in this country.. The super delegates know who the right person for the job is, and should not be swayed by indpendents and republicans showing up at democratic caucuses to try and keep the best candidate from being nominated.. truly shameful!

  • Iam a huge advocate for Obama so you know right up front, but I did not become a supporter until I read as much as I could. The more I read the more I became convinced he is the best candidate.

    Here are two links that show Obama’s and Hillary’s legislative bills:

    1) Washington Post:

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com

    2) @ the Library of Congress:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/

    (select: Clinton or Obama in the ‘Select a Senator’ drop-down list for the 2007-2008 sessions).

    While there is not much difference in numbers:

    Hillary: 150 bills
    Obama: 113 bills.

    Obama’s legislation covers more important issues: voter-fraud, energy efficiency, healthcare, war on terror, etc…

    Additionally Obama has sponsored over 820 bills during his first 8 years:

    233 healthcare reform

    125 poverty and public assistance

    112 crime fighting bills

    97 economic bills

    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills

    21 ethics reform bills

    15 gun control

    6 veterans affairs

    and more …

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/01/AR2008020102663_Comments.html

    Obama does not come from a wealthy family. He has worked in Chicago slums as a community leader, he has been a civil rights attorney, a Constitutional law professor, state senator and a US senator.

    He has fought hard to pass legislation that benefit people. What appeared to be an impossible task he got people on board without compromising his principles. For instance “Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.” It was unpopular with politicians, the police department, etc. But he got it passed.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    Obsedianwings has a great post about him:

    “… Obama tries to find people, both Democrats and Republicans, who actually care about a particular issue enough to try to get the policy right, and then he works with them. This does not involve compromising on principle. It does, however, involve preferring getting legislation passed to having a spectacular battle. (This is especially true when one is in the minority party, especially in this Senate: the chances that Obama’s bills will actually become law increase dramatically when he has Republican co-sponsors.”

    http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

    Moral courage means taking political risks. Telling an audience the truth rather than what they want to hear illustrates political will. It’s rare when a politician is willingly forthcoming. Inarguably Obama is one of those rare and unique politicians.

    Truth matters. Conviction matters. Moral courage matters. Political-will matters. I have no doubt they matter to Obama, too. I may not agree with him on every issue, however, I have confidence in his leadership abilities. I feel I can trust him.

    I believe in Obama’s vision: hope for the world’s future is a vision all of us — the nation and the world community — share.

  • Perhaps you should have googled W.O.R.M.(What Obama Really Meant) as it seems the main question of his details in policy comes from his lack of specifics in his speeches of how he plans to do what he claims he wants to do. Without becoming more conservative how does he expect to win over conservatives to his progressive agenda was one question. Everyone wants what Obama wants in general (a united country, one America, etc) but his speeches lack any specifics on how he plans to accomplish this feat. btw…curiosity and discovery is not an attack.

  • I’d have to agree, the prevalence of that argument probably comes from mostly from the comment sections of blogs. And its an admirably effective stick for beating Obama supporters about the head with, because most comment sections stay well clear of in-depth policy discussion.

    It certainly helps that most commenters are also incapable of even holding such discussions [insert rant on lowest common denominator America here]. Or the common response of linking to the candidates campaign website, which happens on both sides of the debate. This, of course, is automatically and justifiably ignored.

    But i will say that when i listen to him speak, i find myself making telepathic suggestions to him to use his rhetoric as a springboard for explaining policy. The best example i can think of is the Iraq exchange during the last debate; he sounded like he just planned on withdrawing the troops. He might have riffed on his “working together” shtick to explain how he would first use diplomacy to draw the whole world into solving the mess in order to facilitate the withdrawal of American combat forces.

  • I think most people who hear him speak for more than two minutes about any one subject realize that he is “wicked smart”. Of course that doesn’t stop some “wicked smart” people like Paul Krugman from going after him.

    I can’t wait til the DLC is finally covered in six feet of topsoil.

  • Sarcastic comment in my inbox this morning RE: the Obama policy stuff. The rumor is DEFINITELY going around-

    Dude, what do you Libertarians [not me- someone on the Reason blog attacking Obama] have against hope? Are you guys against change? Obama is for both change and hope and people are inspired by his speeches where he yearns for change and hope. I hope we change our directions and what better way than with a President who has the audacity to hope for change. Obama would be much better than Hillary, although they are basically the same on policy, because Hillary does not hope for change. Obama is for change and she is against Obama so she obviously is against change and hope.

    Change/Hope 2008
    No need for specifics!!!

  • The only people who bash obama as lacking policy are the Clinton Apologists grasping at straws to bash Obama.

    Obama is clearly the best candidate, Clinton is trash.

    And the Clinton lovers who bash Obama’s “lack of substance” are just hurting the Party.

  • Well I guess time will have to tell. I myself prefer someone that will tell me what they will do not what they hope to do.

  • Well, [Obama] is lacking in specifics — just because no one really dwells on them, doesn’t make it a non-fact.

    Anyone who claims that Obama is lacking in specifics is deliberately uninformed. The candidates aren’t going to invite us over for tea. We have to be good citizens and do our homework. Both candidates have websites with detailed information. Both candidates wrote books with a substantial amount of helpful information about their values and policy positions.

  • I’m sure everyone will be shocked to know that none other than blogosphere punching bag Joe Klein wrote a column on this very topic just a few days ago.

    Thursday, Feb. 07, 2008
    Inspiration vs. Substance
    By Joe Klein

    That is not just maddeningly vague but also disingenuous: the campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire. Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause — other than an amorphous desire for change — the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is

  • I think Obama’s fairy tale affair with the media has allowed him to be thin on detail, and gives him an opportunity to promote two of his coveted products, “Changeeos” and “Hope Juice.” Sadly enough most people seem content getting a buzz from his syrupy sweet speeches as they are eating cocoa puffs.
    The grim reality is that though Obama’s goals nearly match Clinton’s on their respective websites, he has the gift of evangelical oratory. If you ask an Obama supporter on the street about his actual plans, they’ll most likely scratch their heads for a second, and then say proudly, “Well…he’s for hope and change!” Obama supporters scare me more than Mormons. They’ll gladly flock to voting booth like lemmings flocking to the sea, and completely disregard the recession, the war, the Healthcare crisis, the mortgage crisis, not to mention the social security crisis, believing that Barack Obama can change the world. Not so much with policy, but with his divine Hope Wand.
    I realize this was a complete digression, but it’s to say that if he becomes our president, America deserves what it gets. 4 More years of terrible leadership, pandering, and a “Washington outsider, who makes you feel good.”

  • I think the confusion here arises from the fact that policy details do not fall trippingly from Senator Obama’s tongue in the debates. Senator Clinton has the policy-wonk(ete) ability to review the details of her policies, which is distinctly helpful when there is a discussion between the differences between her plans and Obama’s. After all, it’s one thing to know what plan you are for, it is quite another to know why you are NOT for something else.

    That’s an edge I give to Senator Clinton. Not that I don’t think Senator Obama has policy proposals and plans, or knows them. It’s just I think Senator Clinton has a grasp of the other options available and arguments why her positions are, if not better, more likely for her to achieve.

  • Quick family story: SDuffys, while a 6 year old, ignored a sign that at petting zoo, fed a part of ice cream cone to a llama. The twerp, rightly so, was nipped in the hand.

    Sduffys never learns a lesson….so… Hot Dog @ 17 – surely, you could have written your comment without the negative towards Hillary. We’re working towards a better level of commenting (sic) here than in past few days.

  • thehotdog,

    You are doing Obama more damage with your behavior than any “Clinton Apologist”. You need to actually listen to the priorities of man you claim to support – unity, respect – , and learn a little civility. The Democratic party will splinter if too many people behave the way you are.

  • McCain is being touted as the one with the experience – foreign policy, military wise and therefore he naturally has all the good “policies” based on “experience.” In those areas the sell is that McCain is the one who will keep you safe. McCain is the one who will benefit should an attack occur before November. The frame does not need any specific charges. In Joe Sixpack-world Obama could not possibly have good policies because he has no experience. The voters are supposed to understand that if McCain “has it” – and the talking heads say he’s the one “with it” then others are therefore do not have or have less of “it.”

  • *** Greg

    Well let’s start with Clinton’s misleading remarks wrt Obama’s “inexperience.” The idea that Obama is too inexperienced is false.

    “Obama’s accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator. ”

    He has fought hard to pass legislation that benefit people. What appeared to be an impossible task he got people on board without compromising his principles. For instance “Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.” It was unpopular with politicians, the police department, etc. But he got it passed.

    Experience outside Washington versus inside experience actually would be better for America. Moreover the judgment Obama has shown shows a maturity and respect that is nonexistent in the WH today. He stood against the Iraq war since the beginning. Yes he’s voted for funding, but how could he not fund the troops. In contrast Hillary initially voted for the Iraq invasion and every funding bill since without protest or objection. She claims that her vote for the AUMF was not a vote for war, but clearly that belies the fact she has continually supported and (while popular) cheered Bush’s misadventure into the Middle-East.

    A couple of things missing that people ought to know before they vote wrt Hillary’s plans for Iraq and the moratorium on foreclosures:

    1) she will not say whether the US will maintain permanent bases in Iraq.

    2) the cap on foreclosures is “voluntary.”

    Hillary has a lot going for her and no doubt she is intelligent. However there are a few other things to take into consideration:

    Something many have overlooked is the weapons-industrial-complex are some of Hillary’s largest donors as well as corporate lobbyists.

    It seems that most of Hillary’s decisions are more political than anything. Take for instance her vote for attacking Iraq. More importantly she voted against 3 amendments that would have curbed Bush’s rush to war. One of which was submitted by Dick Durbin (D-Il) that would have compelled Bush to demonstrate “imminent threat” prior to invading Iraq.

    The second was Levin’s amendment. Granted Levin’s bill called for the UN’s approval before force could be used, but it also reinforced America’s right to defend itself even if the UN voted against it. Therein nothing in that bill was an impediment to the US in any way. Yet Hillary claimed it would have made the president “subordinate” to the UN.

    So basically her vote against Levin’s bill meant she was against international support and the UN’s consensus. Moreover her votes would be relevant only if she believed that Bush 41 had been wrong to go to the UN for international support and approval.

    Although the amendments were defeated Hillary had 3 chances to slow down Bush’s rush to war, but chose not to! Publicly she was fully supportive of Bush’s war.

    Hillary also shifted her policy on torture. At first she said she would seek “legal” exemption to saying her current position, “torture cannot be American policy.”

    All of which leads me to believe Hillary will be more of the same, but as a “Bush-lite.” And the republican contenders will be like Bush, only on steroids!

    Furthermore Clinton never talks about her tenure as a corporate lawyer at the Rose Law Firm, the Arkansan corporate powerhouse.

    In the mid-1980s, as a member of the board of the anti-union Wal-Mart. While the company mounted a campaign against unions seeking to organize Wal-Mart workers Hillary stayed silent. She claims she fought for women’s rights, but nothing was ever achieved. Furthermore look up Hillary Clinton & Monsanto.

    I suggest taking a closer look at her actions rather than believe everything she says; it is what she doesn’t say that worries me.

    Additionally Hillary voted for the Kyl-Lieberman bill. The bill, similar to the AUMF, although she disputes it, according to what I’ve read gives Bush almost carte blanche to attack Iran.

    Perpetuating false narratives and false impressions are not what progressives stand for. One e-mail in particular suggesting Obama is a Muslim is not true. Other emails regarding his religion likewise are false. Obama is a Christian. Other rumours say Obama [& Edwards] accept lobbyist money. Not true at least not to any substantial extent. On the other hand Hillary accepts more corporate-lobbyist money than the candidates combined.

    A day prior to the New Hampshire primary Hillary morphed into Bush! Citing the attacks in Spain and London as examples, Hillary asserted she has the “credentials” as the best equipped to handle terrorists attacks should that occur following the election. Neither her experiences nor her credentials support those claims. However it shows she will go to any length, at any cost to win, even if that means scaring voters into voting for her. Haven’t we had enough of that!

    Rovian tactics divided this country so any candidate willing to employ the same ruthlessness disqualifies him or her. IMHO. And after 7 years of the Bush administration’s politics of fear the country is so ready for change.

    Remarkably Obama is well aware of what needs to be done to move the nation forward: change the thinking. He says we need to change the mind-set that got us into war, in the first place (vital for success). We have other options than the military, but Cheney & Bush worked diligently to cement into the public-thinking that using military aggression is the only option.

    A public tired of the war, tired of the politics of fear, has an opportunity to put the genie back in the bottle. It is a step toward correcting the nightmare Bush and Cheney created when they opened Pandora’s box. America has been fractured for far too long under the Bush administration. I suspect it will continue if Hillary is elected. At no fault of hers the right-wing attack machine is armed and ready. Thus putting the country through years of the rancor and belligerence again.

    Obama’s message resonates. He exhibits leadership qualities by bringing together people of all stripes. Moreover he is not just talk, Obama is a man of conviction. He has fought for people’s rights as a civil rights attorney and as a Constitutional professor. Organizing poor neighbourhoods, taking on genocide in Darfur and opposing the war in Iraq — even when it was unpopular — demonstrate Obama is a man who acts on his convictions, who cares about people and who thinks deeply about the issues. He proved his mettle. Obama has the desire and yearning to lead, given the chance.

    The nation’s choice: the politics of fear or the politics of hope — a different path or stay the course sure to last a generation at the very least is up to you.

    If we are to ever move forward, vote not out of fear, but vote for your aspirations.

  • I heard a specifics in that VA speech he made a few days ago. Now if I only had a memory I would repeat them for you….but I don’t, so you’ll have to:

    find a utube of that talk (I heard it on cnn.com)

    or

    go to Obama’s website and actually read about his intended policies and stances on the issues: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

  • Like you said Steve, I feel like the argument (that Obama is light on policy experience) is made a whole lot in the comments here and elsewhere, but not so much in the national media.

    Without naming names, there are a handful of very constructive commenters here who definitely bring that argument up time and again.

    While I suppose the case can be made that Senator Obama lacks the level of policy experience that Senator Clinton has, I think citing an overall lack of policy experience on Obama’s part is a weak argument at best.

  • Krugman seems like he has repeatedly raised the specter of, shall we say… naiveté… several times.

  • Here, here, RacerX.

    As the lines seem to be drawn for a battle between the DLC establishment and what appears to be the progressive insurgency for control of the Democratic Party, i find myself wondering if the progressive movement might have been better served by forming a new party…rather than trying to take control of an existing party.

    I cannot see the progressive movement being ready to win by itself yet. However, i can easily see a scenario wherein it would have enough clout already to force the Democratic Party to adopt some of its policy issues if the Dems wanted the progressive support necessary for national, electoral victory.

    It’s worked pretty well for the European Greens, who’ve never won much of anything…only made themselves necessary. Then again, Europe is enlightened enough to use proportional representation which probably explains a good deal of the Green’s success there. (Never mind voter turnout that regularly breaks 90%…damned socialists)

  • That’s true, of course, but who wants any presidential candidate in either party to combine speeches and white papers?

    Agreed.

    Every time I hear this complaint I’m reminded of the Happy Days episode where Richie ran for student body president and his incredibly boring speech was a detailed 22-point platform. (“We need diagonal parking spaces, rather than parallel ones, because they are easier to park in and allow for smoother movement in and out of the parking lot….”) Not surprisingly, Richie gets his ass handed to him Dukakis-style.

    But seriously, people need to remember that when FDR ran in 1932, he sounded a lot like Obama. A lot of vague happy talk, a lot of promises for changes, but no substance spelled out. He didn’t have the details of the AAA or NIRA or Social Security or HOLC or any of it at the time — nothing, nothing at all in terms of details. All he had was the phrase “New Deal,” and even that wasn’t something he’d put forward, just something an alert cartoonist had plucked out of a speech he gave on the campaign trail. It sounded exactly like Obama: “The people are ready for change, and I’m going to bring it. Period.”

    And you know what? That worked and worked well. He still won big. And, more to the point, I’d argue that he was able to win so big — and bring in so many new Democrats to Congress on his coattails as well — precisely because there were no details for people to get bogged down on, to argue about, to nitpick and split over. The voters rallied around him, the party got huge new margins in both houses of Congress, and then with massive public support, they both went to work and brought about the greatest period of progressive reform in American history.

    This year, the political map is right for a similar sea change in Congress. There are nearly 30 incumbent Republicans in the House who are retiring, and a lot more who can be knocked off in a Blue Wave election. The Senate map this year is one where the GOP will be playing defense, and if we run the table, a filibuster-proof majority is within reach.

    More and more, it’s looking like Obama is the candidate who can help lead that election revolution. He has greater appeal in purple and even red states, he is bringing larger numbers of new voters into the process, and has the best likelihood of having long coattails to help downticket Democrats get into office.

    Clinton is a good candidate and a fine politician, and one who could win. But the reality — seen in the primary results, the polling, and just a casual look at media coverage and public reaction — is that she would win in a much different way than Obama would. Clinton seems like a classic 50% + 1 candidate, whereas Obama has the ability to rewrite the whole game.

    I voted for Edwards in the primary, but I’m becoming more and more convinced that Obama represents the best chance at a massive house-cleaning in Washington and the establishment of a new liberal majority in both houses.

    Both Clinton and Obama are great. But one, I believe, has the ability to bring about a once-in-a-generation moment for real, transformative progressive change.

  • God, I’m almost afraid to post this, but here goes. I was an ardent Edwards supporter and devastated when he left the race. I posted here that week that I was leaning toward Obama b/c I didn’t think Hillary was progressive enough for me. I was leaning toward O until sometime last week. I live in Wa. state and we caucused on Sat. I knew I had to have more than a gut check and overall impression. I started really listening and reading, and on Friday night my family and I downloaded both senators’ speeches from live events in Seattle. We listened first to Hillary (b/c her first speech here was Thurs. pm, and his speech was Friday) and was really impressed. She was passionate and warm and specific in how she hopes to help turn things around for us, down to the dollars and where the money would come from. Shock- I like her.
    Then we listened to Obama. I was eager to hear what he had to say and experience the excitement. The first 2/3 of the speech was about him and what others say about him and delivered very calmly and dispassionately. He was warm and courteous, but seemed somewhat removed. And when he finally got around to talking about what he’ll do as President, it was basically the same ideas as Hillary but without the plan as to how to get us from here to there. I was disappointed, to say the least.
    Now, I freely admit that I haven’t actually gone to either of their websites as yet (I do plan to) and regardless of which Dem wins, I will vote for them. I will vote regardless of whether or not MY candidate wins the nomination. I have heard many Obama supporters say they won’t vote or intend to vote Rep. if Hillary wins, but where does that leave our party? The only way we can hope to bring about change of any kind is to get rid of the Republican presidency.
    Please don’t hate me… 🙂

  • I know this is a little off topic but just on point needs to be made in all this meme about policy. Ya’all forget who is in the WH now. Its the same group that brought us our traffic light warning system, sabre rattling on NK and Iran and wouldn’t be afraid to do it again. So if Barack is the nominee and Bush pulls a fast one then McCain wins. Plain and simple. Security moms over soccor moms will always win out.

  • doubtful said:

    Compared to Hillary Obama is a naif. -Dale

    See, it only took 9 comments to prove Steve right.

    That was my point.

  • I think it is a developing talking point that is being seeded to use against him in the general electionl.
    Bush him self let the plan slip when saying “What has he (Obama) really done on forign policy, after all he is the one that wants to invade pakastan and snuggle up with Akmenadeshad.”

    then there was the question to the fox focus group from Hanity
    Name one accomplish ment that Obama has done?

    No one in the group could come up with anything specific they all answered He is a good speaker. He is inspirational.

  • The “Obama lacks policy specifics” argument abounds, google searches notwithstanding. On 60 minutes last night, they said Obama’s accomplishments amounted to running a good campaign and giving a good speech at the 2004 convention. That’s a pretty asinine statement.

    TV “journalists” state that Obama is vague on policy almost nightly. Read online blogs, and Hillary supporters throw this argument out ad nauseum.

    Personally, I don’t think the argument holds water. Obama’s website has more substantive policy information than any candidate site I’ve ever been to. Unfortunately, more people rely on the nightly news narrative to shape their opinions. Someone on CNN says that Barack’s policy proposals lack specifics, and the average American says, “Barack’s policies lack specifics.”

    People need only go to http://www.barackobama.com to see for themselves where Barack stands on the issues.

  • CRM @37

    Hate you??? Hate YOU??? No – rather, we appreciate you.

    This is style of comments that others should follow. You detail your disappointment with Obama without shrill. And you arrive at same conclusion that we should all do so… regardless of who gets the nod…Vote for the Democratic nominee.

    The next president probably will have to appoint at least one Supreme Court Justice – we can not leave that up to a Republican.

  • *** serena1313

    Hillary is not about staying in Iraq forever, she did not get this country into this war, but she will also not create chaos by leaving Iraq in even worse shape by irresponisbly withdrawing too quickly.

    Obama is trying to play to the extreme leftist views that we should pull out now despite the consequences.. I firmly believe this would do even more harm to our reputation in the world.

    Hillary is not an idealist like Obama, she is a realist.

  • For those who want more specifics on Obama’s ideas on economics, just exactly what do you want to know? And can you first answer what the economy is going to look like a year from now?

    Here’s one of the problems with specifics. Clinton said she will take two brigades a month out of Iraq after 60 days. She couched it in “if”s and “promises”, but essentially that’s the bumpersticker. And it opened her up to Colin Powel and Robert Gates saying she was foolish. It will be even more irresponsible if a year from now things have changed significantly. Who can predict whether there will be anything resembling an Iraqi government?

    Furthermore, this is a democracy. There are some things a Pres can do without congressional approval, but democracies are not designed for presidents to dictate specific policies. Ours is designed for him/her to enforce the laws they pass. The idea is to understand his philosophy, and then expect him to appoint advisors who will further the agenda.

  • Greg,

    To suggest that blacks are voting for Obama (“voting for him because of the color of his skin”) solely because he is black, borders on racism itself. One could easily suggest that his skin color is the reason you oppose him, but that would be as unfounded as your assertion.

  • Good point on the economy, Danp. If things keep going like they are the next president may well be facing a shitstorm that would make FDR spin his wheelchair around and roll like hell to get away.

    Nobody wants to talk about the 800lb gorilla breathing heavily in the middle of the room. I know that Bush is hoping to hold it all together with scotch tape until he leaves office, but he may not be so lucky.

    If you average out the best case scenarios and the worst case scenarios (which seem more likely every day), it becomes hard to escape the conclusion that our next president may not be able to do much of anything. And if that Iranian oil bourse opens with any degree of success the whole house of cards may well come crashing down on us.

    I’m not even sure why anyone wants the job of President at this juncture.

  • By the way, what exactly accounts for Hillary’s alleged grasp of policy detail? I admit she sounds good in debates. I would bet that she would pass a written test. But what has she done with that knowledge? She failed miserably on health care, literally setting reform back by a generation. She sure as hell has been wrong on the war every step of the way.

    Where are the accomplishments? Where, as she herself recently asked, is the beef?

  • This, to me said more about Obama than any policy statement. Katie Couric asked various candidates what book they’d bring to Washington with them. Responses can be found here, but Obama replied:

    Obama: Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book “Team of Rivals.” It was a biography of Lincoln. And she talks about Lincoln’s capacity to bring opponents of his and people who have run against him in his cabinet. And he was confident enough to be willing to have these dissenting voices and confident enough to listen to the American people and push them outside of their comfort zone. And I think that part of what I want to do as president is push Americans a little bit outside of their comfort zone. It’s a remarkable study in leadership.

    If you aren’t familiar with the book, get it.

  • Steve Clemons at the Washington Note raised this issue by comparing Obama’s and Clinton’s activity as subcommittee chairs (in short, Clinton had lots of deep-in-the-weeds hearings on issues of practical importance while Obama had no hearings despite covering important foreign policy areas).

    Also, Rove has telegraphed on a number of occasions that, if he were advising a campaign running against Obama, he would paint Obama has lazy. I don’t think Rove would necessarily feel he needed a substantive basis to run such an attack campaign: he would just need to think it might work.

  • I did notice that the Obama “lacks specifics” charge was very common in blog comment sections (including mine).

    Those people are not legitimate Hillary supporters. Those are trolls doing what trolls do. Real Hillary supporters disavow themselves of that garbage.

    I think if you look at it logically, you’ll find that the simple solution is that that they are disgruntled Republican trolls, since everything about their arguments, save for espousing support of Hillary, is exactly the same material they’ve been using for a decade.

    Don’t fall into the trap of attributing the views of a vocal minority to the majority. Most Hillary supporters are reasoned, level-headed Democrats who want the same things for our country as Obama supporters, but think his approach is better than hers.

    Sorry “doubtful”:
    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14540.html#comment-379279

    I just had to use your words in a boilerplate fashion to make a wry point.

  • earthtones,

    you assume that I am white and/or have no black people in my family, and making statements because I am myself a racist, all of which is false.. but when Obama injected race into this contest he DID polarize the democratic party creating our current rift.

    How would you explain why over 80% (nearly 90% in some states) are voting for Obama if not because of race?

  • …she did not get this country into this war… -Greg

    Assuming you mean Iraq, Hillary did vote affirmitively to authorize military force. So yes, she did get us into this war.

    Obama is trying to play to the extreme leftist views that we should pull out now despite the consequences. -Greg

    No, he’s not.

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

    He would specifically leave combat ready forces in Iraq to guard our embassy and target Al Qaeda.

    How is his plan significantly different than Hillary’s?

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/iraq/

    Ironically, his seems to have more detail, but both plans bring home the troops and neither ignores the consequences. They both seem to plan on actually making Iraq take some responsibility for themselves.

    I would suggest, especially before spreading anymore of your easily-debunked-but-not-worth-the-time-myths like you did upthread, that you go educate yourself. Start by reading everything Steve Benen wrote in the last three months. He’s already addressed most of your ‘myths.’

  • I just had to use your words in a boilerplate fashion to make a wry point. -ROTFLMLiberalAO

    No problem, but now you owe me $3.50 for my $0.02.

    Haha.

  • The thing that gets me about all this is, so many of us are criticizing Obama for leaning too heavily on rhetoric while ignoring wonkish specifics . . . without stopping to remember that the reason we lost (or got close enough for the GOP to steal) the last two presidential elections is, we ran candidates who did nothing but rattle off laundry lists of policy specifics! We finally have a candidate who can actually connect with people’s emotions (remember, people vote with their guts, not with their heads,) and all of us nerds sit around and moan about his lack of specificity. Come on! He lists his policy proposals on his web site. Furthermore, as CB stated, you don’t get to teach at the University of Chicago if you’re just a schmo (and that is the University of Chicago, the Rockefeller-founded private institution on part with the Ivy Leagues. It is not a public university, for those who didn’t know). This is not some dimwitted dilettante we’re talking about here. If you prefer Hillary, fine– she is certainly plenty intelligent and accomplished as well. But to disparage Obama’s skill as an uplifting orator by claiming that it masks a lack of substance is not only flat-out wrong, but it also misses the point as to how to (oh yeah) win elections!!!

  • Joe @ 51: “Also, Rove has telegraphed on a number of occasions that, if he were advising a campaign running against Obama, he would paint Obama has lazy.”

    Read Rove’s comment as: I’d remind people Obama is black.

    You need to get a Republican dictionary.

  • I have heard many Obama supporters say they won’t vote or intend to vote Rep. if Hillary wins…

    People who say this (Paul Krugman included) aren’t paying attention.

    Some of us (not all and not most) have said that, if either candidate wins because of the superdelegates and/or the MI/FL ghost delegates earned in the January primaries, we won’t vote that candidate. That would be overturning the election and I, for one, will march.

    On the other hand, if a candidate wins by winning the most delegates pledged via the primaries or caucuses, then that’s another story. It’s not about Obama or Clinton. It’s about democracy.

  • Again, if Obama had been in the US Senate, he would have received the same intelligence provided them from the US intelligence community, who undeniably stated as fact that Iraq had WMD’s.. in that case, if he were in the US senate, he may have had to make the hard choice to keep the people of this country and the world safe, but luckily for him he was not in the US Senate, so now he can sit back and point fingers.. shameful.

  • I didn’t realize that the Democratic Party was in the business of winning elections, Caped Composer. I’ve been under the impression that we enjoy nominating the best person for the job and then labeling all the people who don’t vote for that person residents of Dumbfuckistan. Why would we want to change our strategy of retreating further and further into the corners of the map? Good lord, we might have to drop our superiority complexes.

    I don’t know if i’m willing to give up my superiority complex just to win an election, besides that, i’ve grown so used to complaining that i can’t imagine not having so much to complain about…i’m terribly afraid of free time.

  • “I have heard many Obama supporters say they won’t vote or intend to vote Rep. if Hillary wins…”

    I’ve never heard this directly. I’ve only heard people complaining about it second-hand.

    84% of Democratic voters say they’d be happy with Obama.

    84% of Democratic voters say they’d be happy with Clinton.

    Both camps, according to the polls, are equally supportive of the other candidate.

  • CB, Cleanup on Aisle 17. Seriously, would there be a way you could give access to some trusted regulars to just delete comments like that so you don’t have to waste your time patrolling? I think you know enough of your commenters to know which ones would be fair and impartial (I, for one—not to toot my own horn—am an Obama supporter who would gladly dump #17 in a heartbeat). Just a thought.

  • TR:

    One thing not considered in those stats:

    A LOT OF OBAMA’S SUPPORT COMES FROM INDEPENDENTS.

    Those stats only consider “Democratic voters”.

    Obama is hooking in a ton of moderate and conservative-leaning independents. But they will snap the line and flee in terror if Hillary is nominated instead. We have a historic opportunity to expand the Democratic base and brain-drain the Republicans. This opportunity will go up in smoke if Hillary is nominated.

  • Greg,

    I didn’t assume you were white or black; the contention that blacks are only voting for Obama because he is black is just as ridiculous coming from a black or white. Nor did I call you a racist, I have no evidence to make such a claim. What I said is that your comment itself borders on racism. At one point the argument put forth was that blacks weren’t voting for Obama because he wasn’t black enough; now it’s BECAUSE he is black. Which is true? Neither; his race no doubt gives him an inroad with blacks, but only because he also cares about issues important to African Americans. Would blacks vote for Clarence Thomas if he ran for Prez? Also, the only way that one can reasonably and honestly conclude that Obama injected race, is to narrow it to basic facts: 1. he is black, 2. he did have the audacity to run; 3. therefore he injected race into a process where people who look like him are rarely taken seriously. In other words, simple by being black, he injected race.

  • Thank you, Steve. This whole “people say…” thing without citations is getting really, really irritating – especially when it so often turns out that the “people” being cited are blog commenters. Not even pseudonymous bloggers, but the pseudonymous folks who comment on their blogs.

    I suspect that the origin of the “no policy stances” is twofold. First it springs from the framing that the Clinton camp has been trying to use – the whole “inexperienced” thing. Second it comes from the fact that he rarely seems to get quoted from the stump talking about policy. The sound-bites he gets quoted with are almost entirely substance free, feel-good platitudes about “working together for change.” Clinton will get a few substance free, feel good platitudes quoted when she gives a speech too, but her sound-bites often also include some bit of policy wonkery – even if only at a very high level. With Obama you really do need to go to his website to find out what his policy positions are because, either by accident or design, his speeches do not give you much to gauge what he thinks needs “changing” only that “change” is needed. It’s much easier to tell where Clinton thinks policy changes are needed if you’re relying on the cable news to tell you what positions the candidates actually have.

  • earthtones,

    fair enough.. thanks for being so objective in your response. I don’t believe that Obama being half-black is itself cause for stating that he injected race into the process, however I do feel that by taking Bill Clinton’s remarks out of context (not even his opponent), and by claiming the victim status, he effectively changed the tone of the contest.

    I won’t defend Bill Clinton’s actions leading up to S. Carolina, as a matter of fact, I thought it was appalling that he was pushing for a co-presidency and tried to upstage Hillary, which actually hurt her way more than it helped, but to say that he was being racist is simply opportunistic.

  • TR:
    One thing not considered in those stats:
    A LOT OF OBAMA’S SUPPORT COMES FROM INDEPENDENTS.
    Those stats only consider “Democratic voters”.

    Agreed.

    Once again, much like the odd talking point that it’s somehow a bad thing that Obama plays better in the swing states, another talking point from the Clinton camp seems to undercut their own argument.

    If registered Democrats are supportive of Obama and Clinton in equal measure (as that poll suggests) but independents will rally around Obama and only Obama, then doesn’t that make a stronger case for Obama, and not represent an argument against him, as they seem to believe it is?

    The Clinton camp needs to stop spinning all the results. They’re just making Obama look better.

  • crk@37

    check the web sites, yes.

    I was annoyed with Obama’s vacuous speeches too; just as I was annoyed with Bill Clinton’s flowery words.

    Every so often, CBR would have a nugget of POLICY that Obama would utter and I liked it: merit pay for teachers (proposed in front of the Teachers’ union!) Raiding Pakistan in case of good intel on Bin Laden (NOT an invasion as Hil claimed) Retooling American industry rather than whining about Japan handing our butts to us (in front of auto workers unions!). Again and again. I haven’t heard any of Obama’s speeches start to finish. Not interested. Don’t care who he is or his love of America.

    When I hear what he’s DONE and wants to do, THAT’s when I’m satisfied to punch his ticket tomorrow. Policy doesn’t SELL, so he doesn’t provide it. Clinton and the Repubs know this. Obama knows it too, but for once, he plans to use this evil strategy for a worthwhile cause.

    At least, that’s what I think I’ve been able to figure out.
    Charisma AND good horse sense.
    Hope I’m right….

  • The Democratic nomination is about leadership; we have two potential leaders who have different approaches to the challenges ahead. One candidate wants to “Kaizen” the current system and the other is looking for some “re-engineering” and is leading with a vision of what that might bring to America if enough people share this vision.

    Both can work and both can fail, but there is no doubt that the greatest opportunities lie with a leader that sees what can be potentially achieved. And it seems Americans are starting to think about their potential again and looking ahead and starting to realize that the “upstart” has already successfuly challenged the status quo with a nomination bid that is well strategized, well organised and well run and that in itself is says alot about the candidates.

  • Personally, I find Obama’s website a bit scant on details. There’s loads of nice ideas, but nothing that looks like actual bills and executive orders..

  • Greg writes:

    Myth: Obama & Clinton have the same voting record

    Truth: Since 1/1/07, Obama & Clinton have differed 37 times on important votes. Out of those 37 votes, 100% of them were because Obama chose NOT TO VOTE, which is reminiscent of his “present” votes as a state senator.

    Where do you get your stats? There have been 454 votes held since 1/1/07. BHO missed 174 (38%) and HRC missed 112 (25%).

    These are the 2007 votes where Clinton and Obama differed and where both of them voted (reverse chronological order):

    Vote 234: S 1639; Vote 189: S 1348; Vote 165: H R 1495; Vote 121: H R 1591; Vote 72: S 4; Vote 70: S 4; Vote 45; Vote 18: S 1; Vote 5: S 1; Vote 4: S 1

    And why make the cutoff 1/1/07? Prior to 2007, HRC and BHO differed on 27 votes. In 16 of these, HRC went against the democratic opinion. Among these votes, HRC voted “NO” for:

    11/16/06 Bingaman Amdt. No. 5174; To limit the waiver authority of the President.
    9/6/06 Feinstein Amdt. No. 4882; To protect civilian lives from unexploded cluster munitions.
    3/28/06 Collins Amdt. No. 3176; To establish the Senate Office of Public Integrity.
    11/7/05 Allard Amdt. No. 2423; To authorize a program to provide health, medical, and life insurance benefits to workers at the Rocky Flats Environmental Technology Site, Colorado, who would otherwise fail to qualify for such benefits because of an early physical completion date.

    She voted “YES” for:

    2/28/06 On the Cloture Motion: Motion to Invoke Cloture on S. 2271; USA PATRIOT Act Additional Reauthorizing Amendments Act of 2006

    Plus we get such “YES” votes as this:

    5/17/06 Sessions Amdt. No. 3979; To increase the amount of fencing and improve vehicle barriers installed along the southwest border of the United States.

    So I’d say that you’re right: they do NOT have the same voting record. Thankfully. (And frankly, I wish that HRC had missed the vote on a few of these, instead of voting as she did.)

    Other than that, it’s hard to see where you found the numbers to back up your “truth”.

  • Again, if Obama had been in the US Senate, he would have received the same intelligence provided them from the US intelligence community, who undeniably stated as fact that Iraq had WMD’s..

    And? Iraq had WMD’s in the 90’s, and we didn’t invade. The only people who even spoke of invading were neo-con creeps, and the most Bill would do is send a few missiles and whatnot. I personally feel that was an over-reaction. But again, Saddam DID have WMD’s during at least part of that time. There was no invasion. After 9/11, invading Iraq was even a worse idea, as we needed to keep troops in Afghanistan and shouldn’t have been adding fuel to Bin Laden’s fire.

    The fact is Saddam was no threat to us, with or without WMD’s. The invasion had nothing to do with WMD’s, and we all had the same basic intel that Hillary had. The only difference is that the media punished anyone who dissented on the Iraq issue and Hillary didn’t want to make waves before her future presidential run. That’s all there is to it. WMD’s did not justify war, and if anyone was in a position to expose the Bush fraud, Hillary was one of them. She did nothing but help them out.

    I forgive her for her mistake, but refuse to forget. And the more you people excuse this mistake, the worse you make it. Face it, she screwed up. And telling us how naive she was isn’t helping. You can’t tout her fighter spirit and experience while also justifying how she got rolled by the Bushies. I’m firmly convinced she thought she was making a savvy political move.

  • Overall, I’m still stuck with the idea that Hillary people can’t find anything wrong with Obama, and so they’re forced to repeat the hypothetical problems that the Hillary camp feeds them. It’s generally not about what he’s done or said wrong; merely what might be wrong with him. And sometimes it goes into obvious fantasy, such as suggesting he might lose blue states.

    And I find this very positive. Kerry’s liabilities were always quite obvious to everyone (the main being that he was longwinded and boring), and that probably cost him a few points on election day (and a few points is all it took). If Hillary’s astute campaign can’t find anything wrong with him, I don’t see what we have to worry about.

    And BTW, while I’d prefer to not have an empty president like Bush, I’d prefer that my president be the Big Picture guy who hires the wonks, and not get too into the specific details. I think it’s a flaw for the Big Boss to get bogged down in details. Sure, they have to show some level of curiousity and shouldn’t allow their staffers to steamroll them (ala Reagan and Bush); but presidents are expected to hire experts, not be experts. Perhaps that was Bush’s other mistake: He resented experts.

  • Are you serious? You can’t find anyone making the argument? It’s the whole theme of the Clinton primary campaign.

    From the Financial Times:

    Some draw a parallel between the election of the relatively inexperienced – and ultimately disastrous – Jimmy Carter in 1976 after the nightmare of Richard Nixon’s presidency with Mr Obama presenting himself as an antidote to what many Americans see as the dark night of the Bush years. “What America and the world needs is a period of realism and competence in the White House,” said one prominent Clinton supporter. “Obama offers inspiration when what we need is perspiration.”

  • And here’s a recent quote from a man who definitely isn’t working with the Clinton campaign

    “He hasn’t any experience in foreign policy. Give me a break,” Voinovich said of his colleague from Illinois, who also serves on the Foreign Relations Committee…

    But Voinovich warned “things are very fragile in this world” and “we’re pinned down all over the place. It’s not going to be an easy deal for our next president to come in and deal with these problems.

  • (1) The importance of policy specifics pre-election are much overrated.

    When FDR, arguably the greatest Democratic president, ran in 1932 amidst the Great Depression, his major policy plank was…balancing the budget, a nostrum he would soon famously dispense with. While he spoke of a “New Deal” for the American people, no one (not even FDR) knew exactly what it meant…until he entered office and tried a series of novel programs, experimenting to find whatever would work.

    Character, quality of mind, and commitments (material, intellectual, moral) are far more important that any list of particular policies which are unlikely to be enacted as-is.

    (2) Obama does have a fairly elaborate (if implicit) theory of change that involves matters that precede policy formulation. So he and Clinton are talking extensively about what concerns them, these are just different things.

    Obama is aiming to change our politics and then harvest the results. He can’t completely specify the results because it’s the PROCESS that needs to be changed first. He clearly believes the political battlelines, though fiercely defended, are not fixed. They are sustained by the media and politicians and entrenched interests and do not reflect the views of the populace.

    Clinton tends to take the political landscape as a given. Her experience prepares her for trench warfare, fighting bloody battles for every inch of turf. This, from Obama’s perspective, amounts to building a political Maginot line, a fortification suitable to WWI but capable of being overrun by the military technology of another age.

    How might Obama differ? He offers the potential to be elected with broader backing among the electorate, including significant support from independents and disaffected Republicans, providing coattails long enough to pull more Democrats into Congress, and create political possibilities that do not now exist. He then proposes to “bring people together,” to listen to grievances (and solutions) on all sides, including those who are now firmly in opposition, not to sell out but to learn, to neutralize, to disarm, to de-polarize and keep off balance, to pick off marginal opponents, to mobilize a realigned majority, and isolate and pressure those who remain.

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