Obama defends wife over ‘pride’ flap

Michelle Obama can be a dynamic force on the campaign trail, but yesterday, she drew quite a bit of fire over these comments:

“What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something — for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I’ve seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it’s made me proud.”

The far-right, and some of the more rabid Obama-haters on the left, immediately pounced, insisting that her comments were unpatriotic and reflected someone who lacked “pride” in the United States.

John McCain didn’t go too far out of his way to exploit the flap, though Cindy McCain pointedly told reporters yesterday that she’s “very proud of my country,” as if Michelle Obama isn’t. (Ms. McCain repeated the line at multiple campaign events, just to make sure the point was driven home.)

The Obama campaign noted that most of the coverage of the quote highlighted a few words, and the broader context was far less controversial. “What she meant is that she’s really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who’ve never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change,” the campaign said in a statement.

Of course, given that there’s a difference between what she said and what she meant to say, it was only a matter of time before Obama had to weigh in on the controversy fueled by right-wing blogs and talk radio.

The Democratic frontrunner gave it a shot this morning.

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama sought Tuesday to clarify his wife’s statement that she is proud of the U.S. “for the first time in my adult life.” He said her newfound pride is about the political system and was not meant to disparage her country. […]

Barack Obama, interviewed on WOAI radio in San Antonio, Texas, expressed frustration that his wife’s comments became political fodder.

“Statements like this are made and people try to take it out of context and make a great big deal out of it, and that isn’t at all what she meant,” Obama said.

“What she meant was, this is the first time that she’s been proud of the politics of America,” he said. “Because she’s pretty cynical about the political process, and with good reason, and she’s not alone. But she has seen large numbers of people get involved in the process, and she’s encouraged.”

That sounds plausible enough. To be sure, Michelle Obama’s remarks were, shall we say, far from artful, and obviously prone to get certain unhinged elements of the political landscape riled up. But is it so hard to believe Ms. Obama is really proud of our political system for the first time? Isn’t it much easier to believe that than labeling her some kind of America-hater?

I am impressed with the right’s ability to turn a relatively minor faux pas into a four-alarm fire, but this one is probably about as substantive as the “plagiarism” controversy, which is to say, it’s not especially substantive at all.

This whole meme about more people coming out to vote is mostly nonsense because its been along time since primaries mattered so much like Wisc last night I wouls dare say if it were a closed primary it would have been much closer and turnout would have been diminished. In open primary states since Feb 5th much of the support for Obama has been most likely generated by State Republican Partys that don’t want to run against Clinton.

  • Jim,

    I would suggest the opposite. I can definitely vouch for the primaries in my district where usually three or four people turn out. This year there were hundreds and there weren’t the usual discussions about holding our noses and voting. People are actually excited this year. Partly I think Bush can make anybody look good but also Obama is a very inspiring figure.

    I think the Conservatives who crossed the line would much rather vote for Hillary because she has flaws that they know how to fight. They can’t fight optimism because they don’t understand it. The Republican party has always been about hating the right people and keeping them scared. Clinton fits comfortably into that matrix.

    I read a lot of conservative blogs and even force myself to listen to talk radio now and again and, try as hard as they can, they can’t find ways to attack Obama. They surely will, but those attacks will probably just sound hollow.

  • Yeah, Jim, that makes a lot of sense. It’s all the big bad Republicans, pushing the button that sends their zombie-like legions to switch registration and vote in the millions for Obama. He’s got no real supporters, and all True Democrats know that the Clintons are infallible.

    Never mind the polls from pollsMichigan, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Colorado, Iowa, Virginia, and Minnesota–all of which show that for decisive chunks of voters, the preferred order of the three remaining candidates is

    1) Obama
    2) McCain
    3) Clinton

    Don’t let the facts intrude on your preconceived notions.

  • Jim:

    You are sooooooooo wrong. I have three friends in Wisconsin, none of whom would have voted for Hillary, and none of whom had any enthusiasm for McCainine. They went out and voted for Obama.

    You Hillary folks are getting more pathetic than Lyndon Johnson supporters were in 1968.

  • Quite frankly I know what Michelle meant because I am truly feeling pride these days…(oh dear I know pride goeth before a fall)….but Obama makes me proud of us and US.

  • As for Michelle Obama’s comments, the rational response is that it’s entirely understandable for an African-American woman of obvious talents whose serious political awareness probably began in the Reagan years and otherwise has seen the dreary procession of Bushes and Clintons to feel something less than unbounded faith and optimism regarding her country.

    But politically that’s probably not an argument the campaign can make.

  • Jim, get serious. Turnouts have been record-breaking ever since Iowa, in every state and under all conditions. LAst night in Wisconsin, the Democratic loser had twice as many votes as McCain.

  • Anonymensch (8) “As for Michelle Obama’s comments, the rational response is that it’s entirely understandable for an African-American woman…”

    Where does this African stuff come from? Seems to me that this political enthusiasm is pretty exciting regardless of race, or income, or gender, or age.

  • I’ve become rather curious about the Obamas problem with the 90s. What is it exactly?

    That said, I would never question any Black-American’s lack of ‘pride’ in our country, considering the residual effects of slavery, racism, Jim Crow and segregation. It’s kind of sad that Michele had to wait until her husband looked to become a major party nominee for President to find her ‘pride’, but still.

    But take warning, this is the Republican’ts first of many attacks. McCan’ts attack on Obama for ‘reneging on his public funding pledge’ is going to be indictative of their above the board attacks. McCan’t regards Senator Obama as a deceitful, unreliable person, and will in no way muzzle his campaign or 527s on any attack on these grounds. Senators McCan’t and Obama have had dustups on these grounds before.

    Good luck Senator. You asked for this.

  • Don’t look for any gaffes from Cindy McCain because I doubt the McCain campaign will let her speak for more than five minutes at a time. Cindy herself has said that she can’t remember what she did last week as a result of her 2004 stroke so I am sure the campaign will try to minimize the number of questions she has to field from the press.

    The McCains want it both ways when it comes to how Cindy is covered. She has been quoted as saying that she believes Americans want a traditional First Lady in the White House. On the other hand, she intends to keep running her $300 million beer distributorship if she becomes First Lady.

    Hilariously, Cindy claims she is not a feminist but rather “an independent Western woman.”

  • most likely generated by State Republican Partys that don’t want to run against Clinton.

    Please. Hillary is their dream Democratic candidate, they have been running against her since the health care fight 15 years ago.

  • Dirty Trick Alert!!

    Revealed on today’s Thom Hartmann…

    One of the most-circulated clips of Michelle Obama has been edited to remove the word “really” from the phrase “I am [really] proud…”

    Get this out there!

  • “And let me tell you something — for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country [with regard to national politics]. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.”

    She’s gotta be more careful, though.

  • Michelle obviously wouldn’t come out and say it, even if felt it so I will. Some of the highlights from my adult life: Mi Lai; Kent State; Abu Graib; Katrina;George W. Bush.Yeah! So much to be proud of.

  • WaPo reporter: Mrs. McCain, last week you said you were very proud of your country.

    Mrs. McCain: I did?

  • The reaction to Michelle Obama’s comments strike me the same as the all the damn political correctness surrounding criticism of the Iraq war as being somehow “unpatriotic.” People who never grew up in as a black woman in the United States during a period of time beginning with the assasination of a black and political leaders, running through ill-advised wars, school busing backlashes, proud retrenchment on civil rights and racial equality to now come to a time when the nation seems to be finally getting that we need to participate fully to change our government want to tell Michelle Obama how she should feel? Who are we to tell her how she should measure her life’s experience when we haven’t lived in her circumstance?

    As for the pride she feels at this time, I too feel like the ground is shifting under my feet in this nation. After so many years of voter apathy, the groundswell of public excitement in our electoral process is the closest I’ve ever come to feeling what it would be like to live through a Prague Spring, a Cedar Revolution, Orange Revolution, Velvet Revolution or to see my countrymen grab a sledge hammer and bash at our own Berlin Wall. It’s something to marvel at and I think that point is lost among critics of Michelle’s remarks.

  • To be sure, Michelle Obama’s remarks were, shall we say, far from artful, and obviously prone to get certain unhinged elements of the political landscape riled up.

    Pardon me for parsing you, but we’re talking about people who went after a disabled 12 year old.

    You know, I know, everyone sane knows that doesn’t matter to those knuckledraggers how a artfully a person speaks. If the person speaking is one of “The Enemy” they’ll make up a reason to scream and howl and froth at the mouth. Every word The Enemy utters is “prone to get certain elements … riled up” because that’s all they’ve got. Shout about the outrage and if anyone asks about the exact nature of the outrage call that person a stupid liberal terrorist doody head.

    And of course, if the person can’t be hit for clumsy phrasing, call them too “scripted.”

    I really wish Obama had just laughed and asked where they were when BushBrat uttered one of his 5 zillion “not artful” comments.

  • In open primary states since Feb 5th much of the support for Obama has been most likely generated by State Republican Partys that don’t want to run against Clinton. -Jim

    You have no proof to back up this ridiculous claim you’ve been making for several weeks now. Sad and pathetic.

    Do I hear tiny violins?

  • ***The far-right, and some of the more rabid Obama-haters on the left***

    And these became credible sources for the definition of “patriotism”—when?

  • I wonder if they had to REWIND Cindy each time she spoke to say that?

    Seriously. She makes the Laura Bush 3000 automaton look lifelike.

    And what was up with the red leather jacket she was sporting? Is McCain hoping his wife’s dominatrix look makes him more appealing to the pro-torture wing of the Republican Party?

  • CONGRATULATIONS: It’s really happy day for many Americans…And at this time of a great [political] triumph, wouldn’t the winners put any potential critics further on the defensive and score a big p/r win by playing the humility card. And with many not in much of a joking mood, it’s also not a good time for any rhetoric that could be misinterpreted [More apologies!]

    The Obama’s have alot to adjust too. They are the leading team to win the next U.S. Presidency. However you can not expect them to modulate their governing themes & tones to perfection in the middle of what is still a major campaign. Still Michelle, in jarring contrast with her poetic husband, is a bit of a scold.

    Maybe it’s because I’m from an older generation, but I think that African-Amercans have much to be thankful for. But I’ve never hear expressions of appreciation or seen any We Love America! marches. Doesn’t this point to the gist of what Bill Cosby’s controversial advocacy has been about? Blacks are ‘on the field and in the game’. So shouldn’t the focus be on getting things done rather than lashing out? Study…work hard…harvest their gains…compete for example with the Latino community for jobs and benefits. And soon now they may also have a great advocate in the White House.

    Doesn’t a President Obama represent the chance-of-a-lifetime to further advance educational, economic and community developement opportunities? Also Tavis Smiley [like TCBR] provides great forums for ideas and personalities. So won’t there be plenty of opportunities to build if the focus is on using their political and economic power for that instead of unfair accusations of racism? To move forward maybe consider Mandela’s themes from South Africa of truth & reconciliation?

    Although I have experienced some boot-on-the-neck oppresion, I do not have an intimate knowledge of what’s it like to be for example an angry African-American. In many ways the Reagan Revolution brought tragic devastation to their communities through lost jobs, defunded social & medical programs, guns and drugs; And now Obama [with the next Congress] represent to many the hope for a long-overdue reversal […and eventually salvation?] It feels like a tide is turning – like a revolution.

  • I’ve become rather curious about the Obamas problem with the 90s. What is it exactly?

    It’s not the ’90s per se, it’s what the Democratic Leadership Council types did with the opportunity we had in the 1990s.

    In general, they moved the party to the right on a number of key issues, from welfare to affirmative action to, most of all, labor issues in NAFTA, and abandoned the left. And starting in ’94, when Bill Clinton followed the Dick Morris strategy of triangularization, he purposely positioned himself in opposition to the Gingrich Republicans *and* our own Democratic Congress too.

    More than that, Clinton let the Democratic base wither. Part of the problem stemmed from a congressional change out of his hands, as conservative white southern Democrats finally switched parties, but a lot of the problem came from the way he approached the presidency, treating it in isolation from the rest of the party. He never built up a bench, not at the state level and not in Congress. And the party’s suffered as a result.

  • IN ADDITION: To express humility & magnaminity at a time of great [political] triumph is a common tactic. In some ways it’s not unlike the Rev. Martin Luther King’s advocacy of non-violent protest. It’s not what the other side expects or wants to see; You taking the moral high ground.

  • HELP WANTED:

    The Carpetbagger Report is looking for a few good trolls. Must not repeat rehashed talking points from Flush Limpbag listeners. Must supply own bridge, goats.

  • There was no problem with M.Obama’s comment when the whole paragraph was read. It is the selective taking out of context that caused the flap.

  • If we were to judge MO’s “adult life” by the standard used to give GDub a pass on his “youthful indiscretions,” i.e., substance abuse and business failures, she has only not been REALLY proud of her country for the last four years (assuming she is 44 as someone mentioned yesterday). Under this standard, she held out much longer than I.

  • Today’s paper edition of the New York Post features Michelle Obama with her arm raised in what could easily be construed as a black power salute. The headline is “Obama’s Wife in US Diss”.

  • READY FOR MY NEXT BEAT DOWN: #30 Sorry for the insult..
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    MARCHES-R-FUN: Even if the idea of WE LOVE AMERICA! marches is
    rejected, couldn’t all this Go Obama! energy find added common purpose?
    Marches are a fun and healthy activity. Like the Million-Man-March it gives
    participants a chance to meet, exchange ideas and renew their focus. So again, shouldn’t this Obama revolution consider regular outdoor activities, if for no other reason than to get away for awhile from trading insults online with pathetic little worms like myself.

  • I’m not proud of our country…never have been.

    Most Americans I know are some of the greediest, self-centered persons imaginable. They couldn’t care less about people living in poverty, infant-mortality, violent crime, the consequences of global warming, high drop-out rates, job insecurity, people losing everything because of health problems, white-collar crime, millions slaughtered in Darfur and Congo, unsafe workplaces and products, terrorism when it takes place somewhere else, passing our debt to the next generation, deaths of innocents arising out of our preemptive wars or anything that doesn’t impact them directly or might require the slightest bit of empathy and/or sacrifice.

    We’re not all like this…but there are still too many Americans more worried about a $50 increase in their tax bill, then millions of children suffering from hunger and disease.

    I’m not proud of America. I’m ashamed.

    Anyway, pride’s a sin…one of the seven deadly.

  • Cindy McCain pointedly told reporters yesterday that she’s “very proud of my country,” as if Michelle Obama isn’t. — CB

    Um… Nope. That’s not what Cindy Mc said. What she said (at least from what I’ve read elsewhere) is “I have always been very proud of my country”. The contrast isn’t between is and isn’t; the contrast is in duration: Cindy’s long and abiding pride (always have been) and Michelle’s “for the first time”.

    But, all that Cindy’s “always” says to me is that she couldn’t have been paying any attention to what has been going on in this country. Doubtless, Grandpa John told her not to bother her pretty little head about it, since she wouldn’t understand it anyway…

  • I am a 48 year old white woman and I agree with Michelle Obama 100%. This is the first time in a long time I am proud of our country.

    Yes, the 90s were good…BUT, the 90s also gave us the vernacular of a BJ throughout our society. Oral sex was made to be not sex – which our kids picked up on, and sorry kids, oral sex is sex.

    I liked Clinton and I am fully from the school of who cares what our political leaders do if it’s consensual and legal (not like Foley or Vitter). BUT, when Clinton got caught with his hand in the cookie jar (or cigar box or whatever ;-), he should have owned up to it, move on, nothing here. But no, we had to hear about blow jobs 24/7 for how many years? Not to mention how much time it ate up in stuff he should have been doing but couldn’t. And yes, that is the goopers faults. None the less….

    So, as for pride…let’s see. Torture? Habeus corpus? Domestic spying? Extraordinary rendition? Obstruction? Ketchup as a vegetable (thanks Ronnie)?

    Yes, it has been a long time since I had pride.

    You go, girl! I am behind you all the way in what you said. The truth hurts sometimes and face it, no matter what any of us say, it’s going to get twisted into god only know what.

  • I’m immensely proud of the promise of America — ideals such as inalienable rights, equality, and the rule of law vs the rule of men. When it comes to how we live up to that promise, not so much. Unfortunately, “my country right or wrong” fits better on a bumper sticker and is easier for the knuckle-draggers to wrap their feeble minds around.

  • Unfortunately, “my country right or wrong” fits better on a bumper sticker and is easier for the knuckle-draggers to wrap their feeble minds around.

    Whenever you see that, remind them of Sen. Carl Schurz’s take on it in the 1880s:

    “Yes, my country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right. And when wrong, to be made right.”

  • if for no other reason than to get away for awhile from trading insults online with pathetic little worms like myself.

    Personally, I prefer to avoid racist assholes…sort of makes my skin crawl at how far we haven’t come.

  • MARCHES-R-FUN: Even if the idea of WE LOVE AMERICA! marches is rejected, couldn’t all this Go Obama! energy find added common purpose beyond raw power-politics? Marches are a fun and healthy activity. Like the Million-Man-March it gives participants a chance to spend time with friends or meet new people, exchange ideas and renew their focus.

    So again, shouldn’t this Obama revolution give serious consideration to having some regular organized outdoor activities that invite mass participation to reinforce positive messages and images like; Anti-smoking, healthy eating, “Thank You America!”, honor veterans or civil rights leaders, highlight heroic accomplishments or advocate new policy choices?

    There could be weekly marches in Washington D.C. every Saturday morning called “Marching with Barack & Michelle” where regular folks and celebrities too, come from all over America (& the world) to tour the capital city and harness some of this phenominal political energy. And by having familiar routes in (only?) Washington the Secret Service would more easily
    mantain control of the situation to reduce any worries and help make the events more joyous & festive.

  • blogingRfun said:
    “..Maybe it’s because I’m from an older generation, but I think that African-Amercans have much to be thankful for..” so shut up ,sit down and practice some humility.

    I mean wasnt it just so white of us to give them opportunities? Just work hard, study and maybe we wont kick you in the teeth, blame you for being born poor or make sweeping generalities about a your race, religion or skin color. Oh, and maybe we’ll let you get ahead….this reminds me of the meme about how Iraquis should be thankful for what our president has done for their country (no infrastructure and unremitting violence, yeah!)….puhleeeeeeze! bloggingRfun please, please stop. Im gonna get sick again..

  • last night in obama’s houston speech, he stressed many times that texans should vote early for him before their primary march 4. the rezko trial begins march 3 in chicago. get your vote in before the rezko-obama connection hits the headlines.

  • last night in obama’s houston speech, he stressed many times that texans should vote early for him before their primary march 4. the rezko trial begins march 3 in chicago. get your vote in before the rezko-obama connection hits the headlines.

  • Y’all can come up with any kind of bullshit you want. when I am presented a chance to vote for Mr Obama I will. I will show up if I am living and I WILL VOTE.
    white boy said that

  • I understand Michelle Obama’s pride that U.S. citizens have recently become so involved in the political process.

    But– of the countless reasons that I am such a fervent Barack Obama supporter– highest on the list is that I am sick and tired of being so ashamed of my country.

    I was never ashamed before the current Bush administration.
    –My country invading another at whim? Killing thousands of us and hundreds of thousands of them for no good reason?
    –My country endorsing torture?
    –My country eavesdropping on us?
    George W.Bush has trompled on too many parts of what IS America.

    Barack Obama can give us our country back.

  • Going back to #1, Jim isn’t so far out. The fact that the 2008 primaries are contested in way unlike any since… 1988? makes it difficult to compare turnout in absolute terms. That is, the attraction may be the contest, not the candidate.

    As for being “really pround,” did you hear about Bill O’Reilly manfully defending Michelle Obama?

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200802200001

    Papa Bear is worried that “demagogues and ideologues” will warp her comments out of context. (Hey! Stop laughing. It’s Papa Bear!) Bill O’Reilly is the paladin of fair play now. He’s giving Obama the benefit of the doubt: he wants to know exactly what she meant by her comments… before he lynches her. Such a gentleman!

  • Last night in obama’s houston speech, he stressed many times that texans should vote early for him before their primary march 4. the rezko trial begins march 3 in chicago. get your vote in before the rezko-obama connection hits the headlines. — db @ 44 (@45)

    Today, Hillary has an ad out, asking Texans (especially Latinos) to vote early for their friend, Hillary. Makes me wonder whose trial might be coming up, before March 4th, to compromise her? Can’t be Cisneros’ (the guy pushing the “vote early” on her behalf), since he had already been tried, convicted and pardoned (by Bill Clinton).

    Better arguments, please, db. Just posting the same smear twice doesn’t make it stick any better.

  • “before he lynches her”

    Yo Grumpy,,, Be careful of using the “L” word in that context… Somebody in the sports broadcast world recently got suspended for refering to Tiger Woods and the “L” word in one sentence. Use of that world may make Mrs.Obama less proud of the country that gave her so much opportunity.

  • emotions in politics are a double-edged sword; they can both move and alienate. i’ll hope this proves to be a lesson learned for michelle obama in that going forward she more carefully articulate her source of newfound pride.

  • I am truly delighted that Obama’s spouse is proud of her country for the first time in her adult life. If she wasn’t proud of her country before, then you may feel free to draw your own conclusions. I have already done so, and concluded that Mrs. Obama will never be able to live it down. Not entirely, at least.

  • Mrs. Obama could well abide by the old adage, “Before speaking, engage mind with the mouth.” (think it over).

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