Obama gets wonky, trades rhetorical heights for policy details

I suppose we’ve all heard the now-predictable knocks on Barack Obama’s campaign style — his speeches soar, but he usually goes light on the policy specifics. I’ve argued that this is as it should be; Obama’s principal strength is his ability to motivate and inspire. No one really wants to hear a presidential candidate read white papers anyway. Obama and his campaign offer voters all kinds of substance and details on practically every issue under the sun; there’s no real need to turn his speeches into powerpoint presentations.

Which is why last night’s speech in Houston was unusual. Generally, his post-victory speeches are some of his very strongest. Last night, however, before a crowd of 19,000 enthusiastic Texans, Obama’s remarks didn’t seem to go over nearly as well.

His previous election night remarks have largely been kept short, sweet and dominated by his usual messages about hope and change. Tuesday night was an entirely different story. His speech lasted what Fox News’ Brit Hume counted as 45 minutes; it was, Hume said, the longest election night speech of this presidential campaign thus far. And it was heavy on issue positions; Obama spoke — for example — about the war in Iraq, about foreign policy generally, about health care, about education, about lobbyists, about the economy, about trade, about taxes, about the minimum wage, about energy, about Darfur and about immigration.

But what the speech had in discussion of issues, it was noticeably lacking in the energy that has been a hallmark of Obama’s previous election night speeches. Several audience members (we counted at least four, and that was without effort at an accurate tally) sitting behind him, visible to television cameras, started speaking on cell phones. Many looked bored. Actually, at times, even Obama looked bored, unenthusiastic about what he was saying.

I should note that I didn’t actually see any of the speech — I was sound asleep — and I imagine that opinions will vary about the quality of Obama’s remarks (the campaign posted videos here).

That said, I hope the campaign doesn’t start overreacting to criticism that never made a lot of sense to begin with.

Jonathan Cohn, who often has high praise for Obama speeches, noted last night:

Tonight … I think he may be getting a little too wonky, even by my standards. For the first time I can remember, his victory speech has included lengthy policy explanations. He went into great detail about his health care plan — the kind of coverage it would provide, how much it would cost, the way it would improve medical care. He did the same for college tuition assistance, trade policy, and national security.

It wasn’t a terrible speech by any means; I don’t think Obama is actually capable of doing that. On his bad night, he still puts most other politicians to shame. And tonight’s certainly had its moments. I was particularly struck by the story he told about the 20-year-old soldier killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq.

But this felt a lot more like those old Bill Clinton State of the Union speeches. Packed with policy ideas, they seemed to go on forever — and lacked the thematics or sheer lyricism we’ve come to expect from Obama.

I wonder — and, for the record, this is sheer speculation — whether Obama and his advisors are trying to preempt the charge that he’s not sufficiently substantive.

I think that’s almost certainly what’s going on. It’s as if the campaign is telling McCain and Clinton, “No substance? We’ll show you; we’ll deliver a dry, 45-minute speech filled with so many details, everyone will be yawning.”

Except this isn’t a good idea at all. Doesn’t it make far more sense to keep going with what works, and disregard criticism that voters don’t seem to care about anyway?

But I think that criticism really would catch on and hurt him. People say that all the time already. That’s definitely going to be McCain’s spin all the way to November; why not preempt it now?

  • I haven’t sat through the whole thing yet, but I saw some highlights, and this morning there’s a short video put together by TPM showing the speeches from the three contenders last night. Check it out.

    I what you say about Obama’s wonking up the speech is true, I suspect it is probably a one-time thing to get some facts out there, and to answer the criticism already levelled and sure to be brought out in the next debate.

    But watch that six-minute video and look at what it illustrates:

    I submit that there is little to no difference between Clinton’s and McCain’s speeches, and that if this is to be her comeback strategy, she is finished. The back and forth between those two speeches is revealing in a way that even Obama, with all his skill, cannot illustrate more clearly—Hillary’s current strategy is showing her to be more of the same, just like McCain. Yeah, it’s a different “same” but it sure as hell ain’t change.

  • I agree with Emily. As long as he doesn’t make a habit of long-winded lectures, I think weaving some specifics or substance in can help him.

    Fortunately I don’t think there’s any way he can become the old Al Gore.

  • I agree with Emily too, there’s no harm in him branching out a bit and showing everyone he can do a wonky speech too.

    It’s not like he can’t pull out the old spark-speech again whenever he wants to.

    He needs to show everyone he’s not just a one-trick donkey. Even if his other tricks aren’t as impressive, we need to see his VERSATILITY, and he showed it last night.

  • Here’s a serious query…

    Looking over the race, how much of Obama’s criticism of Clinton has been of the nature that would harm her and the party’s chances in the general election? I seriously cannot think of any.

    While everything—EVERYTHING—coming out from the Clinton camp latley is stuff that can be picked up and used by the Republicans in one way or another or is designed to damage him as a candidate going forward as much, if not more, than it impacts him now…

    Seriously. I know I am biased, but I really am having a hard time thinking of the worst stuff he’s been thrown at Hillary. There’ve been some less-than-clean mailers, but they’ve still been honest, and won’t serve as ammo for Repubicans…what else?

    He seems to have stuck more or less to contrasting the two of them before Democrats, while she goes on stage last night and rather than concede Wisconsin, she pretends it never happened and claims he’s not ready to be President.

    Hillary Clinton is willing to sow defeat in November for (at this point) futile points in February. Her campaign is going from pathetic to loathsome, and she cannot get eliminated fast enough. There is not going to be anymore “healthy debate” on the Democrat’s side, all that can happen going forward is detrimental to the party now, in November and for potentially years to come.

  • I actually watched the speech last nite and was quite impressed. I am not really into reading wonky policy papers of the candidates. That said, the 45 minute speech really cleared up a number of questions I had on what he believes and what he wants to accomplish. If you seriously into being informed about this election the speech is probably the most time effective way of getting up to speed on Obama’s positions.

    I know in our attention deficit age a 45 minute speech is pure agony, but you do own yourself to listen to it.

  • I saw both Clinton and Obama back to back on CNN last nite(Clinton was cut off BTW to make room for Obama) and if Obama’s speech was “Too wonky and boring”, then Clinton’s was downright dire.

    If Obama can put substance into his speeches without sounding like he is reading a laundry list of policy points, anecdotes and sound bites them more power to him. He can go to 11 if he needs to…

  • Obama can now say, “See my Houston speech.” He only needs to give it once to be able to fling it in the face of the critics. The knock has been he always delivers oratory rather than specifics. The audience may have been bored, but that criticism cannot logically be used anymore.

    Of course the media can follow their usual course and ignore what he said and continue to say he has no policies.

  • I saw the speech. And in the words of John McCain, Eloquent but empty words.
    He’s going to change how Washington works. Right.
    His promises were so over the top I was laughing.
    And for many Obama can do no wrong, which we already know is a bad thing given our current pResident.

    And I am so sick of the pillory Hillary crowd. She can do no right.

    We need to keep our eyes, ears and minds open. I know it’s tough to accept a female leader, because traditionally such women were seen as aggressive and dog like. But it is time for us to understand some leaders are born women.

  • Agree with Emily @ 1.

    The time had come to play the wonky card, and play it hard. It is like a preventive health care plan: Time to thin up and do some brainy jumping jacks. Shut the squabs up with some mind squats.

    But even deeper: Going 44 minutes like that, and preempting Clinton in the process, totally ripped her sails to shreds. She didn’t even get a chance to beg for prime time donations. I almost suspect, he decided to go long and hard as he walked towards the stage. Saying to himself: Now is the time to cut off her attacks, cut off her fund-raising, and cut off her wind.

    Mission accomplished.

  • I thought it was an excellent speech. As for the strategy, it is clear (to me, at least): he was being given free reign by the major cable outlets, and thus took the opportunity to deliver a substance-heavy stump speech to reach as many Texas/Ohio voters as tuned in, with the added benefit of preparing the national viewing public for the general. Genius.

    ‘trane

  • I’m not suggesting he should do what Clinton does, but “I have a pamphlet” is more appropriate for large diverse crowds. I do, however, like the idea of giving policy speeches to smaller narrowly defined groups. And I would love it if he put them out infomercial style, noting times and channels on his web-site. Part of the mystique of his campaign is top-down approach. Impress those who are most enthused, and let them spread the word. He clearly is not going to get the endorsements from people like Wolf Blitzer, Lou Dobbs, Joe Scarborough etc. But this is a year when voters seem to be telling these corporate media mavins, “Go directly to hell. Do not pass go.”

  • Short of a miracle, Clinton can’t win the most pledged delegates. Her only fading hope is the divisive strategies of superdelegates and ghost delegates (i.e. FL/MI delegates). Such strategies won’t work either.

    For the sake of the party, she needs to take a page from the Huckabee strategy and take the high road until March 4, when she should exit gracefully. Bending over backwards to damage Obama with no possible benefit to either her or the party would be selfish.

    If she continues with the divisive and negative campaigning, I always remember her as the person to tried to kill the progressive movement for her own political gain.

  • Let me join the chorus here — he had to do it, at least once, to silence the criticism and to lay it all out there. This won’t be the norm, but he had to get it out there.

  • Despite the wonkiness, it was STILL more exciting than Clinton or McCain combined…

    I thought it was the most “presidential” he has appeared to date – it’s good to see him mix it up.

  • actually, i thought it was an excellent speech. you should watch the whole thing steve. he pretty much said a big F U to all of the criticisms of him. and yet, he was still fantastic even with the policy. do i want to see this all the time, no. However, the criticism was getting overheated about not having any substance when we all know thats bullshit.

    i just want to know why they haven’t sent out Michelle Obama yet to clarify her pride in her country remark. its getting way too much play when all it would take would a 1 sentence press release from her to quash it.

  • I didn’t watch the speech yet, but I was thinking last night as I read McCain’s “empty but eloquent” comment… oh please, let them all put all their bets on that strategy. Because it’s insane. Obama may not be quite the wonk that either Clinton is, but he’s certainly more than capable of talking through issues with a pretty strong level of detail and nuance. I agree with Steve, it’s just not been to his advantage to focus there. If there was ever a policy debate between McCan’t and Obama, I predict Obama wipes the floor with him.

    It reminds me of a moment from The West Wing, when Bartlett tells his challenger “that’s when I decided to kick your ass”.

    So go on, keep beating the drum that there’s no substance there. (I’m almost tempted to say “bring it on”.)

  • That speech was a smart thing for Obama to do. By focusing on what he wants to do and how he’d do it, Barack is looking even more like the frontrunner because he’s not focusing on Hillary or McCain but on what needs to get done if he’s the president. Hillary would be wise to counter attack with new initiatives or firm policy stands because Barack is getting more bulletproof to her Mark Penn-type criticisms all the time.

  • jambro (18): I just want to know why they haven’t sent out Michelle Obama yet to clarify her pride in her country remark.

    I hope she doesn’t clarify it. When you put her earnest “really proud” against Cindy McCain’s “I’ve always been proud” comment, you see the difference between true passion and platitudes. I think people are getting tired of overly plastic politicians. When people tear up listening to the Obamas, I think it is because they feel this sincerity, even if it often lacks polish.

  • His speeches may well inspire but his policies a far from engaging. Republicans will tear him apart in the general election and without Florida or Michican he can’t win the general. He will have no chance in AR, TN or OK he may even have a hard time in PA and NJ. It will be business as usual for the next 4 years. Nothing will get done. Just today I switched my voters registration to Independent in FL.

    Republicans always find a way to dampen expectations with an unknown democratic candidate. Starting in the next couple of days weeks the republicans will be in full court press. No left wing liberal has been president in a very long time and its unlikely to happen this year. When the chamber of commerce start their campaign of fear and the tax groups start attacking middle america will almost always go against a candidate that will have to raise their taxes to pay for all his campaign retoric. I’m voting for John Edwards.

  • 22 Danp

    I agree with your sentiment, and I dont’ mean an apology. just take it off the table with a 1 sentence press release stating that these politics of accusing others of having no patriotism is bullshit. something like that, which would shut all these stupid talking heads up.

  • It was crappy for Obama to begin his speech in the middle of Clinton’s. He has done that before, interrupting Republicans. Here he does it to an opponent and that is disrespectful and an unfair tactic. People here, of course, are only focused on what he said and they give credit for “cutting away” from Clinton’s speech to the networks. It was Obama who timed his speech to coincide with Clinton’s, not the networks.

    Michelle Obama has not clarified her statement because she meant what she said. It was not an off-the-cuff remark but part of a script. She was calling to African American voters. If she goes back on that, she goes back on them by conceding to others (which is not consistent with throwing off any yoke of oppression) and that would convey the wrong message.

    Maybe this is what Obama sounds like when he doesn’t plagiarize?

  • I see several comments stating he pre-empted her speech but I read somewhere (?) that she moved her speech forward an hour and in effect tried to upstage his victory speech. I don’t know if that’s true but it would sure change the narrative.
    Oh, and Nell, I know it’s hard to accept that a black man could be a strong, successful, eloquent, and inspiring leader but he can!

  • Wow, Mary, bitter much?

    1st of all, why should Obama have let Clinton finish when she didn’t congratulate Obama on his victory, which is what a CONCESSION speech is supposed to do. She did the same thing last week. Why should he have let her go on national tv and bash him without even a hint of a graceful loser?

    2nd, your comments about michelle speak for themselves.

  • jambro – i think it better if she says nothing more. it would only give the story legs by giving the media another reason to cover it and repeat her initial comments. better to let the campaign get back on its core message rather than talking over itself. there aren’t that many news cycles left in the race.

  • It was crappy for Obama to begin his speech in the middle of Clinton’s.

    Ouch. A true-believing cultist gets whacked hard in the chops.
    Dear sir, spit out your broken canines and gargle with some warm salty water.
    And repeat after me: All is fair in love, war and, politics. Which is to say: if Clinton wants to go on teevee and pretend Wisconsin didn’t exist, and her campaign workers there don’t exist, and refuse to offer public congrats to her opponent, she’s earned the pleasure of having her tongue stepped on in full national view. Ouch. Deliciously so.

  • Wow, Mary, bitter much?

    Non-stop, it seems.

    Mary, it was Clinton who made the decision to start speaking as soon as the polls closed and right after the projections were made that Obama had won Wisconsin. She lost the race, but refused to concede or even offer a civil note of congratulations — as always, in her case — but instead rushed to steal the spotlight.

  • I’ve yet to see a clear indication of who moved their speech, but I also think the etiquette of allowing your opponent time to concede goes out the window when they completely ignore the day’s contests and instead launch into an attack/stump speech.

  • He has done that before, interrupting Republicans.

    ??? An example? Only a few weeks ago there were five candidates. Is he supposed to wait until 2:00 am?

  • Rhetoric over substance is becoming Obama’s media profile. He has no choice but to deal with it. The trick will be to keep the inspirational tone, but back it up with short policy examples in a mix that maintains his strengths, but satisfies doubters that he knows how to get where he wants to go.

  • I’m voting for John Edwards.

    I’m an Edwards supporter from waaaay back, but I’m not suicidal. The best shot we have of getting John Edwards in a position of power these days is to lobby Obama to put him at AG.

    Or, you know, you can throw away your vote and get ready for Attorney General Thompson and Homeland Security Secretary Guiliani.

  • Nell (#10)

    First, full disclosure….I am an Obama supporter, have been for a year now. That said, I have to rebut your claim that many of us aren’t comfortable with a woman president. I cannot speak for others (though I suspect many feel as I do), but for myself I would be THRILLED to have a female in the White House. It just so happens that in this election season the person I have come to believe is the right person right now is not a woman.

    I have said it numerous times on this site, if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination, I WILL vote for her. I know many Clinton supporters feel that Obama supporters haven’t given her a fair look, but in truth, many of us have. Like it or not, their policies are very similar…true they are not identical, but close nonetheless. With that in mind, electibility becomes a key consideration and in that regard Obama wins in my mind. The fact that people are inspired by his words in not a bad thing. Quite the contrary, he is bringing tons of new people into the process; independents, young adults, moderate republicans. This is VERY good for the Democratic party.

    I am not so enamered by Obama that I believe he can accomplish anything, that somehow all opposition will fall away when he walks into a room. But if he is elected he at least doesn’t carry the same baggage the Clintons do and IMO he is more likely to carry other Dems into office on his coattails than Clinton.

  • Mary (#25)

    I have to grudgingly agree that cutting in on Clinton’s speech was perhaps a bit uncalled for, but on the other hand it was delisciously hawkish. And compared to the race bating and divide and conquer tactics of the Clinton campaign, this is a tiny slight.

    And on another note, I liked the wonkiness of the speech. Not that he should wax wonky all the time, but it went a looooong way in silencing the arguement that he was all pretty words and no substance.

  • On the “cutting in” — my understanding is that Obama’s campaign had announced he would speak at 9:30, Clinton’s at 8:30. Her speech ended up happening at 9:15; one may speculate as to reasons.

  • For those who are miffed that Obama didn’t wait for Clinton’s speech to end before starting his, it is worth noting that her speech started later than scheduled (I’ve seen 15 and 30 minutes mentioned, but would love to see a definitive number), and he had 19,000 people waiting. Should he have waited anyway? Maybe. But then again, this was the third Clinton non-concsession speech in a row where she didn’t even mention that there had been primaries that day, let along congratulate the victor (supposedly she did so by phone call, but it is customary to acknowledge defeat in a speech). So, while I think he may have been a bit petty here, it doesn’t seem all that unreasonable to me.

    As for the lengthy and wonky speech, I agree with CB. Stick to what works. This felt really calculated, like he was hoping to see headlines of “Obama’s detail-laden speech bores audience” today. More meat may be good to stave off attacks about lack of substance, but there has to be a middle ground between a 15 minute rhetorical masterpiece and a 45 minute policy snooze-fest.

  • Doesn’t it make far more sense to keep going with what works, and disregard criticism that voters don’t seem to care about anyway?

    Steve,

    It was my impression that the wonky speeches started a week ago, in Janesville, WI. I can say from firsthand experience that the “Rally” I attended in Green Bay was a full hour of wonkiness. I was quite surprised, and it worried me a bit because I thought it seemed a bad time to be changing away from what seemed to be the winning formula of the previous weeks.

    But the Wisconsin voting results seem to show that this new approach of giving policy-heavy speeches are not hurting at all, at least not yet.

    -Kevin

  • Criticism of Obama includes “empty words”, “no specifics”, and “how’s he going to deliver the changes (whatever they’ll be) that he’s promising?”

    His campaign shows how he is going to get things accomplished. His speeches have earned him a huge following (10 victories in a row, and many by astonishing margins!). Quite clearly his campaign is building a large following and a powerful mandate that will give him a huge impetus for whatever he wants to do. His speeches and his electoral victories show that he’s very good at persuading people to join him in his goals (even if the people joining him aren’t clear on where he is headed). During the general election (assuming he wins the nomination). I’d expect him to work toward the longest coat-tails we’ve seen in a long time, which will also help him hugely.

    We’ve seen in his campaign and in his past actions how he hopes to effectuate change. His work on videotaping police interrogations in Illinois and securing loose nuclear material shows that he does’t “roll over” or triangulate, or start out by making compromises, but he starts with clear goals and works at finding ways to get people on board with his ideas, or subsets of them. He starts by inspiring people, by expanding and shifting the boundaries of the possible, and by building powerful coalitions, just as he is doing with his campaign.

    The charges of “empty rhetoric” and “no specifics” have been false from the outset, given the wealth of details available on his website. However, it is true that he has not dwelled on specifics during his earlier speeches (until last night), and it is true that building the mandate first and not emphasizing the details until later can seem backward. However, so far it seems to work well for him.

  • McCain’s been firing “shots over Obama’s bow” for several days now. In naval combat terminology (something that ol’ “Rampstrike” should understand quite well), Obama just “crossed his T,” landed a broadside salvo square in the magazine, and rammed him at full speed.

    McCain’s gonna need a bigger boat if he wants to take on the Obama dreadnought….

  • Re the timing of Obama’s speech. First, the candidates don’t have pre-assigned or carefully negotiated time slots. Secondly, if his timing wasn’t just a matter of “ther are 19,000 people waiting and it’s time to go and say something”, but was instead a careful calculation that he could start before she finished and thereby steal her limelight, AND get the cable networks to stick with him for eons of wonk, then he would rise even higher in my estimation.

    Also, as I.T. said, if Hillary wins the nomination, I too will be excited about having a women president. However, at present I greatly prefer the promise of Obama to the baggage of Clinton.

  • There’s a happy medium.

    Deliver your usual dog and ponies show that keeps the election night crowd pumped, toss in a policy nugget somewhere in the middle. Educate your followers without lecturing.

  • I think this was a wise and strategic move on Obama’s fault. Before Wisconsin, he had been incorporating more policy into his speeches but the media didn’t really notice. Yesterday night, he went so over the top that the media would have no choice but to at least note that his speech in Houston was different from his usual speeches and was extremely long. Now, that he’s made his point and will probably get the coverage he wants on that issue he’ll probably use a better balance of policy and rhetoric from now on.

  • This is the right time to do a policy speech (I also noticed they seemed to take down the teleprompters — in response to the “he’s not eloquent off-the-cuff” meme? Save the rousing oratory for March and keep pointing back to this speech when it comes up.

  • Those that say he should stick to retoric and not substance have a great point because he can’t win on substance and without that the republicans will define him as just another Ted Kennedy limo riding tax and spender with bigger government, more regulation and more socialist plans for a weakening economy. Allowing radicals to move into countries with unstable governments.

    Come this Sat when al-sadr ends his cease fire and all hell breaks out in Iraq and becomes the major news story of the day instead of his glorified speeches then McCain wins with strengh in national security. That will be the main battle in November and Mc wins that debate every time against Obama. Mr I was against the Iraq war from the beginning will lose his luster and only the far left leaning liberals will stay solidlly with him.

  • N.Wells @ 41 I think in summary the features you describe would serve as an excellent definition of “leadership”.

  • Jambro & TR, you don’t concede when the race isn’t over yet. This was one primary, not the election. Concession comes when its all over and someone has clearly won or lost. Obama has won some primaries and so has Clinton. She is not a loser because he won the more recent ones, nor is he a loser because she has won some of the larger states. It isn’t over til it’s over. Isn’t tradition for the “loser” to speak first, then the winner? If Obama was the “winner,” why did he rush in to take the “loser’s” slot? Seems to me he was preempting Clinton, not the other way around.

    Was there some confusion over time zones involved? You tell me, I don’t know whether Texas and Wisconsin are in the same or different zones.

    Calling me bitter? I have the same right to support my candidate as you do yours, without being called names for it. This is about the candidates, not me or you.

  • I live in Houston and couldn’t get a ticket to get into the Toyota Center to see the speech. Thousands were turned away at the door, and I think they put up a big screen outside for them. The crowd was reported to be the loudest anyone had ever heard it in there, and the Rockets have played there for years, some playoff games, too. The buzz is still all over town. If anyone was on their cell phones it was more like “Look at ME!” stuff. I watched the whole thing on MSNBC, and I thought the speech was great. He didn’t interrupt Hillary, he was being polite to not keep thousands waiting live and millions waiting for the broadcast. He’ll win Texas outright.

  • Does Cindy McCain speak? Never heard her! I’d prefer the passionate Michelle Obama to Cindy McCain in the White House. I am convinced Michelle will try to leverage the prestige of being First Spouse passionately for the causes she believes in. With Cindy, I am afraid, we will see a Laura Bush kind of first spouse.

  • Delegate count: Obama 1278 Clinton 1232

    Do we just have to accept these candidates healthcare plans? Why isn’t anyone saying why can’t you make these Not For Profit plans and single payer? Medicaire and Medicaid work pretty well without some CEO getting paid some outrageous salary and treatments being denied to increase profits. If these candidates really are against the lobbyist system why do they keep catering to them by allowing profiteers into our health care system? Why are supporters just accepting this crap without saying now wait a minute…?
    I’ve heard, “Well because they will never get it passed through congress”, which means the lobbyist still control the process. If we get democratic majorities and a dem president we don’t have to worry about vetoes etc…then why not?
    FDR did not run on the “New Deal” he just later got in front of the parade demanding relief. We aren’t electing kings and queens but reps and I am sick of just accepting everything they say because that’s all they have to offer as if it is all up to them.

    btw…Cleaver why are you so fucking rude…now you go to the mirror and say slowly
    v-a-s-e-l-i-n-e- because you will need it to get your head out of you ass.

  • I think that it is important that Obama gives some of these types of speeches on occasion for those voters who need are swayed more policy specifics rather than inspiring rhetoric, but for the most part for the larger audiences, his higher energy, more poetic and general speeches are preferable. Obama is a brilliant man and has so much to offer, it is hard to choose!

  • I watched the whole speech and loved it. I also didn’t think the crowd was bored. They even interrupted him with “Yes we can!” chants several times, so they were engaged. It was still inspiring even with the wonkish parts. He can definitely do both IMO.

    I don’t know if he forced the cutting away of HRC’s speech or not, but if he did, that shows a level of savviness on his part without getting negative and thumping her. It was a smooth power play. Besides, the networks couldn’ve let HRC finish her speech and put his on time delay if they wanted to. Looks like the MSM knows who is on first!

  • It was a modified stump speech. 19,000 people wanted what Obama gives to everybody else. Frankly, I thought the atmosphere was electric. When was the last time you saw a victory speech in front of a filled stadium?

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