Obama says ideas, not pins, are testament to patriotism

Maybe it was the polls that showed him slipping further behind. Maybe it was the lackluster performance at the last debate. Maybe it was seeing Hillary Clinton raise more money than him in the last quarter.

Whatever it was, I think Barack Obama is having a really good week. He’s starting to act like the candidate that a lot of us expected him to be all along.

Today, for example, an ABC reporter in Iowa asked Obama why he isn’t wearing a flag pin on his lapel. “You don’t have the American flag pin on. Is that a fashion statement?” the reporter asked, at the end of a brief interview with Obama. “Those have been on politicians since Sept. 12, 2001.” Instead of some canned response, Obama actually gave a thoughtful reply.

“You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin,” Obama said. “Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest.

“Instead,” he said, “I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism.”

Good for him. For far too many, wearing a pin is itself a patriotic exercise, which in and of itself, is rather hollow. Someone can oppose American civil liberties, prefer to stifle dissent, support un-American policies like torture and the elimination of habeas corpus, but so long as the stars and stripes are on his or her lapel, their patriotism should be considered unimpeachable. What nonsense.

It’d be easy for Obama to simply wear the pin and avoid the question, but instead he articulated a more important point about ideas carrying more weight than symbols. It was a small gesture, but it’s an admirable one.

It comes on the same day as a terrific statement on U.S. torture policies…

“The secret authorization of brutal interrogations is an outrageous betrayal of our core values, and a grave danger to our security. We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer — it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach.

“Torture is how you create enemies, not how you defeat them. Torture is how you get bad information, not good intelligence. Torture is how you set back America’s standing in the world, not how you strengthen it. It’s time to tell the world that America rejects torture without exception or equivocation. It’s time to stop telling the American people one thing in public while doing something else in the shadows. No more secret authorization of methods like simulated drowning.

“When I am president America will once again be the country that stands up to these deplorable tactics. When I am president we won’t work in secret to avoid honoring our laws and Constitution, we will be straight with the American people and true to our values.”

…and some leadership on the von Spakovsky nomination…

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Wednesday derailed a plan blessed by Senate leaders to vote on controversial Federal Election Commission White House nominee Hans von Spakovsky, a move giving Democrats time to breathe in the ongoing Senate stalemate on FEC nominees.

…and the same week as a very good speech about the intersection of politics and foreign policy.

“[When it comes to Iraq], the American people weren’t just failed by a President – they were failed by much of Washington. By a media that too often reported spin instead of facts. By a foreign policy elite that largely boarded the bandwagon for war. […]

“The fact that violence today is only as horrific as in 2006 is held up as progress. Washington politicians and pundits trip over each other to debate a newspaper advertisement while our troops fight and die in Iraq.”

Why hasn’t Obama been hitting notes like these all along?

Nice. Better late than never.

  • The pin always reminded me of Soviet leaders who’d wear the red flag with the sickle and hammer. Ra Ra we’re all on the same team.

  • What a stupid freaking question. Why aren’t you wearing a flag pin?

    Jesus our media sucks. The people who refused to ask any questions in the runup to the Iraq war, the ones who continue to ask NO questions as the warmongers prepare for war with Iran… they want to know about flag pins.

    And of course now the RWNM will scream “Barak Hussein Obama refuses to wear American Flag Pin!!!!”

  • ABC is such a liberal news organization, they realized that the all important flag pin issue could be used against the Clintons too…

    Obama is not alone in not wearing the Stars and Stripes pin. ABC News’ Eloise Harper, the off-air reporter covering the Clinton campaign, notes that she has never seen Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., sport the ubiquitous flag lapel pin on the campaign trail.

    And, she notes, former President Bill Clinton wears a Hillary pin.

  • As best I can remember, it was Nixon who started the flag-pin craze among Republicans. The pins have waxed and waned ever since, but it was during that time (Vietnam era) when Republicans claimed the American Flag as the symbol of their party.

    I am of two minds on the subject. I hate that my flag has been stolen by people who are doing everything possible to wreck my country, but I don’t fly flags or wear flag accessories because I would be embarrassed if people thought that I was one of those jingoistic a**holes.

    Obama’s answer was a good one, but Racerx (3#) hit the bullseye. If he refuses to wear the pin, what does that say about Obama’s patriotism?

    Hillary would have responded to that flag-pin question with her now famous “cackle.”

  • “You don’t have the American flag pin on. Is that a fashion statement?” the reporter asked, at the end of a brief interview with Obama.

    Fashion statement? Oh, right; to go with the open-necked shirt — just like Ahmadinejan’s — and with his name — Hussain.

    For a minute there, I thought maybe the question was pre-arranged, to give Obama a chance to answer it and plainly state the difference between true patriotism and the shallow, flag-waving one. But no. All Obama’s speeches and official statements have an almost poetic rhythm to them (wonder who writes them? They’re beautiful in that respect); this one is off-the-cuff.

  • Probably the most valuable thing a Democratic candidate could do right now is to hack away at the forest of false memes and disinformation that pervade the current landscape. Once people start realizing how many of their basic assumptions are deceptive conservative constructs maybe they’ll also realize how bankrupt conservative ideology has become. Keep it up Obama.

  • I’m proud to be an Obama supporter.

    This is what I’ve been waiting for from the guy: calling not just the Republicans, but the media culture that enables them, on their mindless bullshit. And he does it in a far classier, more rational way than I could manage… good on you, Barack.

  • He can’t wear a flag pin and speak on important issues at the same time? What’s next, walking and chewing gum?

    His deep, important thoughts aren’t substantial enough to overcome a little flag on his lapel?

    And everyone around here shouts “right on!” Amazing, I feel like just visited the teachers” lounge in the late 60’s.

  • Then again, maybe there are a lot of people out there who DO question your patriotism if you aren’t wearing the magic pin. But I doubt that any of them would have voted for Obama anyway. Or Hillary. Or any Democrat. Right, Reap?

  • He can’t wear a flag pin and speak on important issues at the same time?

    I imagine that he can, but apparently he’s not.

    Remember, fReap, there’s not such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.

  • This whole American flag pin thing is just an example of political correctness gone overboard. What, a politician is not inoffensive unless they wear an American flag pin at all times. Oh, please. This whole country will be a lot better off when O’Reilly and the rest of them stop trying to shove their political correctness down all our throats.

  • Reap wrote:

    And everyone around here shouts “right on!” Amazing, I feel like just visited the teachers” lounge in the late 60’s.

    The whole flag thing is just a stunt so people who don’t want to do real things like cast votes that matter will get to make themselves look better than everyone else. You can pull any insane person or retart out of a sanitarium and slap a pin on him. That doesn’t make him/her more patriotic than anybody else.

    Wearing pins and armbands has never been a good way to tell who’s good and who’s smart. It’s been a way for people like Nazis to bully and intimidate people and an easy way for infiltrators and losers to make themselves look like they fit in where they don’t, without paying the dues that should go with the pin.

  • The America I would fight for and the America hundreds of thousands of people have fought for isn’t (and has never been) one so dumb that every private citizen who wouldn’t wear a certain pin was automatically under suspicion. Hopefully that isn’t going to change.

  • So, “Reap,” do Bush and Cheney get a pass from you on decisions that, by any objective standard, have strengthened Iran and al Qaeda, because they wear lapel pins?

    Would you have cheered that unhinged lunatic president of Iran if only he had worn an American flag pin?

    It’s idiots like you who have defined patriotism down to meaningless symbolism rather than thinking, speaking and above all acting in the spirit of those principles our flag represents.

    And I hate like hell that ur-fascists on the right have appropriated that noble symbol of our country.

  • I think it is an unforced error and maybe the moment he ceded to Hillary. -Reap

    And I think you’re an unaborted mistake. Correct it by walking off a cliff, please.

  • “And I think you’re an unaborted mistake. Correct it by walking off a cliff, please.”

    Okey Doke

  • Soon-to-be-translation of Obama’s comments: “So, he was for the flag before he was against it.”

    It’s true that no one has to wear a flag to be patriotic and to feel a deep patriotism, but I have to think that for a presidential candidate, it would be far easier to explain what the flag means to him or her, what it stands for and how he or she plans to restore its luster, than it is to explain something that for a lot of people will look like – and be framed as – rejection of this symbol of America.

    We know that Bush and his administration do not get to define what the flag means to anyone, much less to define it for the entire country. But not wearing it for the reasons Obama stated cedes that definition to Bush, doesn’t it? The problem is that most people will not see it as a rejection of Bush, but as a rejection of the flag.

    Obama is a smart man, but sometimes I think he is too cerebral for the majority of people – he’s kind of a less boring Al Gore, if that makes sense – and I worry that he might overthink things to the point of paralysis.

    I would like to be more enthralled by Obama, but the truth is that I don’t think he’s ready. And I am not convinced that he can translate his lofty and stirring rhetoric into the kind of decisive action we so desperately need; I’m not sure he can see when and where to stop compromising, even if it means we’re not all getting along and holding hands.

  • I never wore a flag pin until this year, when I started wearing one upside down to express our critical and worsening moral and economic distress.

  • “To believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies are voluntary and spontaneous, instead of a compulsory routine, is to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our institutions to free minds.”–Justice Robert H. Jackson. Jackson was speaking of state-imposed flag salute requirements, but it applies as well to mindless rote exercises like affixing a flag pin to your lapel every morning because that’s what politicians are supposed to do to “prove” they are patriotic. I like the idea that you prove your patriotism not through conforming to what is the equivalent of a compulsory routine but through your words and actions.

  • I never wore a flag pin until this year, when I started wearing one upside down to express our critical and worsening moral and economic distress.#23

    Have you noticed soldiers wear it backwards now?

  • Indeed. To me, those pins say that the wearer wants to misrepresent themselves. To have it or not doesn’t say anything about whether the person is a patriot. It only says the person wants to tell people that he/she is a patriot. In other words, it’s bullsh*t.

    Please let this candor and good sense spread to bigger issues! I think we should try some operant conditioning, and send a small donation to Obama, and notes to all candidates explaining what we are willing to reward.

    And as an aside, what a worthless POS that reporter is. Played like a cheap fiddle by the Heathers mentality, and sucking the intelligence out of our national discourse.

  • Obama is the last great hope for this election. If the debate is between Hillary and Giuliani, then Im moving to Canada. The only positive indicator that it could actually happen that Barack gets nominated is the grass-roots support he is getting. Keep up the good work Barack, you have my vote!

    http://www.spartaninternet.com/2008

  • Who’s advising this guy?! Hillary’s staff? Does he really want to win this race? Does this gain him ANY votes? Isn’t the flag a symbol of our country, bigger than any spin anyone puts on it? Bye-Bye, Obama, thanks for playing!

  • Given:

    “You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin,” Obama said. “Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest.

    “Instead,” he said, “I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism.”

    Consider:

    “You know, the truth is that right after the wedding, I had a ring,” Obama said. “Recently, that has become a substitute for, I think, true love and devotion, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our marriage; so I decided I won’t wear that wedding ring on my finger.

    “Instead,” he said, “I’m going to try to tell the Mrs. Obama what I believe will make our marriage great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my fidelity.”

    Now THAT would be courageous.

    -30-

  • Could this be true? Are we really talking about A PIN! I quake at the thought of America’s future if this is what counts as rational dialogue. Whether he wore the pin, didn’t wear the pin, or wore a dinosaur outfit is completely irrelevant. What did he SAY? For all who appear to have missed it, he said: listen to my ideas and decide for yourself whether I’m a patriot.

    To all the Republibots who want to question whether this is a reasonable statement: I fear for your children.

    The pin is a non-issue. Done.

  • I think we should require all politicians to wear flag pins. Or better yet, flag ties. No, wait – That would give the women a pass. How about flag armbands? What do you think? Too German? Maybe…Hmm…Aha! I’ve got it! From now on, all politicians should wear flag-themed suits! Yes! And anyone who opts out is denounced for disrespecting the flag, and for probably being a closet pinko or terrorist hugger. Take your pick.

    Or, (and I admit this is a nutty idea) we could all take a moment and learn the difference between patriotism and nationalism.

    “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
    – Sinclair Lewis, 1935

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