Obama takes on McCain over taxes

It’s been a long while since one of the Democratic presidential candidates when after the Republican presidential candidate, so this was a very welcome development.

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said Thursday that Sen. John McCain reversed his position on President Bush’s deep tax cuts in order to win the Republican presidential nomination, one of his sharpest criticisms yet of the Arizona senator he hopes to face this fall.

Criticizing GOP efforts to extend major tax cuts from Bush’s first term and to eliminate the estate tax, Obama said: “These are all steps that John McCain rightly said were irresponsible when they first came up.”

“He made a decision to reverse himself on that,” Obama told reporters as he flew from Chicago to Washington for a series of Senate votes on budget issues.

“That was how, I guess, you got your ticket punched to be the Republican nominee,” he said of McCain. “But he was right then, and he’s wrong now.”

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a statement that if Obama is nominated, “the American people will have a clear choice: John McCain will cut taxes while Senator Obama will raise them, hurting our economy and costing jobs for hardworking Americans.” Of course that’s what McCain’s spokesman said. We probably could have written the quote before it was uttered.

The point is, Obama didn’t go after Hillary Clinton; he went after John McCain.

Can we have more of this please? Say, every day for the foreseeable future?

I’m increasingly of the opinion that this prolonged Democratic primary process is going to seriously undermine the party’s chances of winning in November, but I’ll concede that there are some clear advantages — most notably, we can watch two Democratic heavyweights go after the Republican candidate at the same time, while the GOP has two moving targets.

This benefit disappears, of course, when the Dems go after each other, which is all the more reason for them to target McCain. It might even help them make the case to superdelegates: “Look at how effectively I’m going after John McCain now. If you’d like to see more of this in the fall, I’m your candidate.”

Frankly, I’m almost indifferent to which issue(s) Dems pick to go after McCain — I’m more interested that they go after McCain — but taxes is as good as any. The Arizona senator is clearly vulnerable on the issue — he’s flip-flopped, he’s offering tax cuts that his campaign admits he can’t pay for, he’s embracing the policies of a wildly unpopular president, and he’s advocating more irresponsible cuts that most Americans realize won’t help them anyway. Indeed, gone are the days that a Republican can just shout “tax and spend!” and hope voters will recoil. Americans have heard all the tax-cut rhetoric from McCain’s mentor (George W. Bush), and they realize the policies don’t actually help them in any way.

So, Clinton and Obama, by all means, go after McCain on taxes. And foreign policy. And health care. And energy, education, poverty, homeland security, and everything else. Just don’t destroy each other.

In one of my favorite movies, “Office Space,” Bill Lumbergh puts up a soul-crushing banner in the workplace that reads, “Is this good for the company?” and encourages every employee to ponder this question with “every decision you make.” I’d like the Clinton and Obama campaigns to consider a similar banner for their headquarters: “Is this going to help Democrats win in 2008?” If you’re repeating Republican talking points, you’re not helping. If you’re praising Republican candidates, you’re not helping. If you’re intentionally dividing the Democratic electorate with ugly attacks based on race or gender, you’re really not helping.

If you’re challenging John McCain on an important policy matter, you’re helping.

I’ll believe it when I see it. Hillary attacking McCain, that is.

  • It might even help them make the case to superdelegates: “Look at how effectively I’m going after John McCain now. If you’d like to see more of this in the fall, I’m your candidate.”

    To primary voters too. We are trying to select someone for the position of running against McCain in the general.

  • When conservatives complain taxes are bad for the economy, I wonder if they back Ronald Reagan’s appointment of Alan Greenspan who found our crushing national debt to be a greater threat to our economy than taxes.

    I suspect they just don’t think about it. Ostriches.
    Not thinking about it explains their lack of curiousity about what happens to an economy weighed down by 10 trillion dollars of debt. Not thinking about it means you don’t worry about a measly quarter trillion of deficit. It seems manageable if you ignore the debt it’s added to.

    Obama will need to dish out some tough love if he’s elected so people understand that taxing them will hurt, but NOT taxing them will be lethal and just who is to blame for the 10 trillion that;’s killing us.

  • The point is, Obama didn’t go after Hillary Clinton; he went after John McCain.

    Well, that is what the Democratic nominee is expected to do.

  • It’s worth noting that while Clinton threw everything she had at Obama in the run-up to March 4th, he was doing more of this than anything else, starting after the Potomac Primaries, IIRC.

    The voters in TX and OH rewarded him how? It’s like a prisoner’s dilemma. If they both go after McCain, they both benefit, most likely. But if one defects and goes after the other, (s)he gains an advantage and ruins the incentive structure for both of them. As such, it becomes more beneficial for the other candidate to turn his/her fire onto the Dem rival, and they’re both worse off.

    Hillary has already defected once. Why should we expect this to be any different?

  • Think your plea fell on deaf ears. Who did the faithful bloggers attack instantly? it wasn’t McCain.

  • C’mon lets help McCain to a well deserved retirement. Help him retire to his cabin ranch in Arizona to host bar-b-q’s and have a chance smell the roses. We as a grateful Nation at least owe him that
    not the burden of another four years in Washington filled with disappointment and failure.

    Vote McCain deserves a rest.com

  • I said it at the time and I still believe it is true.

    The first Bush tax cut was the most irresponsible tax bill in history.

    They needed to keep it under a certain amount in order to get some moderate Publican senators to support it. So they came up with all sorts of phase outs that you KNEW could never actually happen.

    The most obvious example is the ‘throw mamma from the train in 2010 provision’

    If your parents die in 2010 then there is no estate tax but if they live until 2011 then all of the estate tax cuts that Bush passed are repealed.

    Not even the most liberal Democrat thinks there is any chance of that happening.

    I don’t care if you love tax cuts or hate them, the Bush tax cut was a disgusting piece of legislation

  • Going after McCain instead of Clinton is a start. What would be better is if the news coverage was about how silly McCain’s tax policy is, not the fact that he’s a flip-flopper.

    “John McCain will cut taxes while Senator Obama will raise them, hurting our economy and costing jobs for hardworking Americans.”

    Yeah, we wouldn’t want to lose the golden age of prosperity that tax cuts have brought us already.

  • You’re so biased, Steve. How come you never talk about all the times Hillary attacks McCain? Like when she praises him as an experienced leader who’s proved he’s ready to be Commander in Chief? That was such a burn!

  • Republicans must not get away with framing the issue as tax cuts versus tax increases. The federal debt is a tax. Will we let Republicans raise this tax on our grandchildren again and again? Does McCain know how much of our budget goes to interest on the debt every year?

  • Very, very good to hear Obama attacking the Republican nominee. Now, if only his most ardent fans would get with the program . . .

  • Nobody on the GOP side wants to talk about the debt and how this recession we are entering today is nothing compared to the tsunami we are facing before 2020, all they want to do is start more wars and cut more taxes so we end up there even faster

  • I saw The McCan’t Straight talk Express on the highway going home last night. I think he was heading to Boston for a fundraiser after leaveing Exeter N.H. I was heading north, but managed to flip the bird. I just hope someone saw it.

  • Obviously what needs to happen is a three-way punch in the face for McCain:

    1) Play the older tape of him saying Bush’s tax cuts were irresponsible (this will piss off the wingnuts who know they’re stuck with him)
    2) Play his current position, praising the tax cuts for billionaires (this will piss off anyone with half a brain)
    3) Play him talking about how he doesn’t change positions for political expediency (this will put a sizeable dent in his BS about being a maverick)

    We need to undercut his alleged credibility, and this issue is simple enough to make him look like a lying sack of crap to almost everyone. We need to make everyone distrust him, and to let them know that McCain will sell them out if he needs to.

  • Here’s an idea for anyone with the wherewithal to do it:

    Do a video of a bus that has “Straight Talk Express” on the side of it, weaving down the highway, and cut to the inside where a TV is playing tapes of McCain, where he keeps switching positions back and forth, and every time he does a flipflop all the stuff inside the bus slides around and crashes into the other wall. Show the back of the driver, a crazy old white guy who’s singing “Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” as he careens down the highway.

    Cut to an aerial view of the bus, and then back away to show that it is heading right towards a cliff.

  • Impartial (?), @6

    You must not have noticed (got problems with reading comprehension or something?), but CB’s plea was to the *Dem presidential candidates*, not to his readers — who aren’t running for that office. Whether the candidates will hear his plea remains to be seen; I’m not sure Clinton is ready to give up buoying McSame’s claim to the Commander-in-Chief position.

  • Flip-flop? After 5 years? I don’t think so. That is unless every Dem who was against abortion and after several years is now for it can be considered a flip-flopper (Dick Durbin, Bill Clinton). If they aren’t, if their positions have “evolved”, then McCain’s position has also evolved. Kerry was a flip-flopper because his flip-flop was very short-term.

  • I’ve been saying for weeks that Howard Dean and other party poobahs need to corral the candidates, line up the superdelegates, and say that the game from here until Denver is to demonstrate that your candidate can attack McCain. Points off for attacking the other candidate. Whoever shows she/he can run the better campaign against McCain gets all the superdelegates and hence the nomination.

  • Considering Clinton won both the Florida and Michigan primaries I think that puts her in the lead. That it’s being stole form her anbd we hear no complaining from the media tells it all., Had HUSSIAN WON THE Florida and Michigan priomaries there would be hundreds of lawsuits now filed in federal court to ensure that he hussian got his win there certified. So why is the media screaming for the fair Florida and michigan primaries be counted as they should be. Where is your sense of duty to your country and fair elections now? Gone?
    It’s bad enough we have to have john McInsane on the republican ticket. hussian the muslim, and clinton the liberal on the democratic but to have the election results of two states overturned is the pitts.

  • libra @17

    Oh, I see, you bloggers / supporters spout the hatred and animosity instead. Got it.

  • Kerry was a flip-flopper because his flip-flop was very short-term.

    Like how McCain sponsored an immigration bill with his name on it and then decided, when it came up for a vote less than a year later, that he was against it?

    The Kerry “flip-flop” was that he voted for $87m with strings attached and then against the same measure with the strings removed. He explained it awfully, but if that was a crippling flip-flop, then McCain’s tied himself into a pretzel.

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  • Very, very good to hear Obama attacking the Republican nominee. Now, if only his most ardent fans would get with the program . . .

    I love getting a lecture on Democratic loyalties from someone who’ll only vote for one Democrat and not the other.

  • “HUSSIAN” @20

    What would a “hussian” be? I’m confused. Is Clinton now battling German mercenary ex-pats from the Revolutionary War who converted to Islam?

    Obama has the resources—right now—to engage in a “two-front war.” By turning his attention to McCain, and hitting him directly, he further demonstrates the political irrelevance of “The Evil Hillistine Monster.”

  • The Arizona senator is clearly vulnerable on the issue — he’s flip-flopped,

    I sooo wish I had the flip-flop franchise in Denver this summer. Somebody is going to make a mint.

  • Obama needs to use his oratory skills (and those of his writers) to punch up his attacks.

    Obama said, ““These are all steps that John McCain rightly said were irresponsible when they first came up.”

    “He made a decision to reverse himself on that,” Obama told reporters as he flew from Chicago to Washington for a series of Senate votes on budget issues.

    “That was how, I guess, you got your ticket punched to be the Republican nominee,” he said of McCain. “But he was right then, and he’s wrong now.”

    The McCain guy said:

    if Obama is nominated, “the American people will have a clear choice: John McCain will cut taxes while Senator Obama will raise them, hurting our economy and costing jobs for hardworking Americans.”

    Obama’s last line was pretty good, but the first rule of marketing is that you appeal to your public’s self-interest. Nobody much cares if McCain is a hypocrite, but they do care if he is ‘taxing middle americans in order to give the money to the wealty” Democrats just aren’t pitthy enough. Sell the meme through repetition.

    This is important because you want a Democrat to win the White House and fix these inequities that cheat you and your family. (that’s your self-interest in reading my comment. 🙂

  • 12. mary said: Very, very good to hear Obama attacking the Republican nominee. Now, if only his most ardent fans would get with the program . . .

    Yeah. Clinton and her campaign spokespeople go after Obama repeatedly for weeks and Mary defends every attack. Obama goes after McCain like Democratic candidates are supposed to do and Mary attacks Obama fans on a blog for noting how different it is from the way Clinton is campaigning. Welcome to the deranged fucked up world of Mary’s mind.
    Hey Mary, if your candidate would start acting like a Democrat again most readers here would stop attacking her.

  • Here’s an ad that either Democratic nominee can run against McCain….

    You show footage of McCain denouncing the Bush tax cuts (hopefully several different talking engagements)

    You intertwine his ‘Straight Talk Express’ bus on the road.

    Then you just finish with either
    “I’m Barack Obama and approve this message”
    or
    “I’m Hillary Clinton and approve this message”

    The clincher is NOT to show his flip flopping. You just run that commercial on FOX News, and the brain dead conservatives will vomit each time they see it, thinking their candidate is against lower taxes.

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