Obama’s comfort level at the non-existent Applebee’s salad bar

For over eight years now, we’ve been hearing that Democrats have been losing presidential elections because people don’t want to have a beer with the party’s nominees. This always struck me as an odd formulation, not the least of which is because George W. Bush is a recovering alcoholic who wouldn’t share a beer with voters anyway.

But the NYT’s David Brooks takes this one step further today, arguing that voters may not find Barack Obama comfortable at Applebee’s salad bar. Seriously.

“Obama’s problem is he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who can go into an Applebee’s salad bar and people think he fits in naturally there.”

First of all, I’m not sure why Obama would be out of place at an Applebee’s salad bar. Because he can’t bowl well? Because he’s well educated? What kind of assumptions is Brooks making about people who eat at Applebee’s?

Second, Applebee’s doesn’t have a salad bar. As Hoffmania noted, “If you’re going to use this as a vehicle to test someone’s folksiness, at least know what the hell you’re talking about.”

The WaPo’s Eugene Robinson reportedly added, “I tend to take this sociology a little more seriously when it’s delivered by people who actually eat at Applebee’s more than once in a decade.”

All of this, of course, served as an addendum to Brooks’ column today, which attempted to highlight the problems facing both major-party presidential candidates.

We haven’t had two presidential candidates as far removed from the mainstream suburban lifestyle. McCain’s family has been military for generations. But Obama’s path through the university towns is particularly elusive.

Peter Hart did a focus group for the Annenberg Public Policy Center with independent voters in Virginia that captured reactions you hear all the time. These independent voters were intrigued by Obama’s “change” message, but they knew almost nothing about him except that he used to go to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church. It’s as if they can’t hang Obama’s life onto anything from their own immediate experiences and, as a result, he is an abstraction. As Hart points out, people’s inability to come up with a clear narrative about Obama could make it easy to label him in the fall.

Finally, the Obama people are too convinced that they can define McCain as Bush III. The case is just factually inaccurate. McCain will be able to pull out dozens of instances, from torture to global warming to spending, in which he broke with his party, as Rush Limbaugh will tell you.

Obama has spent a lot of time, Brooks says, in “university towns” — meaning that he’s one of those guys interested in book learnin’. Can’t have someone like that in the Oval Office. No siree.

As for the focus group that apparently hadn’t heard much from the media other than news about Jeremiah Wright, this might be a clue to Brooks and his colleagues that the coverage of the campaign is not serving the voters especially well.

Brooks concludes that arguing that McCain offers voters another term of Bush is “factually inaccurate.” Fair enough. McCain agrees with Bush on economic policy, tax policy, foreign policy, national security policy, judicial policy, healthcare policy, immigration policy, and housing policy. Other than that, though, it’s completely irresponsible to argue that McCain offers the nation more of the same. What we were thinking?

Thank goodness we have someone as insightful as Brooks to explain these matters to us in the nation’s most prestigious news outlet.

Salad is for the elite.

Now maybe the “fixins” bar…

  • I hear the “Obama at the salad bar” reference as a dog whistle to white racists.

    Brooks and Dumb – giving us their wisdom regularly in the New York Times.

  • McCain will be able to pull out dozens of instances, from torture to global warming to spending, in which he broke with his party

    McCain voted in favor of torture, won’t vote for the global warming bill his allies crafted, and is exactly the same as Bush on spending. Where did he break with his party???

    David Brooks hasn’t been in touch with reality in years. Only now he’s becoming more obvious. Another Kristol without the family connections.

  • I always enjoy a good Robinson bitchslapping of Bobo.

    Brooks concludes that arguing that McCain offers voters another term of Bush is “factually inaccurate.”

    I think it means Bobo’s arguing that brain exchanges only happen in bad horror movies, and that it’s physically impossible for McCain’s mind to occupy Bush’s body. And would that be any dumber than most of Brooks’ freewheeling analysis?

  • Q: What’s worse than an “elitist” who, deep in his heart thinks he’s smarter than everyone else (especially when as the former editor of the Harvard Law Review, he probably is)?

    A: An “elitist” who’s a condescending asshole that doesn’t care whether he gets the facts right because he thinks the “little people” who read his crap are too stupid to know the difference.

  • If only the GOP had nominated Mitt Romney. There’s a candidate who can be programmed to simulate authentic folksiness.

  • I hear the “Obama at the salad bar” reference as a dog whistle to white racists.

    I dunno. To hear most of them talk, they’re not exactly getting enough of what my (white) grandma used to call “roughage.”

  • Obama sneezes. Just testing the sneeze guard at the salad bar.

    Has Obama read The Stranger by Camus? Maybe he and George can discuss it.

    Obama is definitely smart, but I doubt he is Liberal Arts smart. More lawyer smart.

  • Yeah, we need another stupid president! David Brooks proves yet again that he (and his bosses) could care less how stupid he sounds.

    Check out this earlier, similar Bobo Brainfart:

    Responding to Chris Matthews’ question, “[W]ill Barack Obama’s oratorical ability on the lectern in front of big rooms continue to be his winning edge?” The New York Times’ David Brooks said: “Yes, but he’s got to get away from colleges. Go visit a factory for once.” In fact, Obama delivered what his campaign called a “major economic policy address” at a Wisconsin General Motors factory a few days before Brooks made his comment.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200802170002

    Seems like complete ignorance should be grounds for a pundit’s removal from any self-respecting news outlet, but I guess not.

  • Obama is entirely too smart to be President because stupid people can’t relate to him. We’d be much better off electing a chimp. Oh, wait…

  • Does Brooks seriously think that Obama’s opponent, a guy with a net worth of $40 million, is going to fit in naturally at some hypothetical salad bar? Right. . . But maybe McCain is such a maverick that he likes to eat at chain restaurants. He’s a man of the people, just like George W. Bush.

  • Wasn’t Brooks whining about blackberry politics the other day?
    God that guy is a wiener.
    ___

    I’ve never been inside an Applebees [elitist I know]
    Do they have a good salad bar?
    ___

    I can just hear the conversation at the McCain’s:
    John: “C-word whattya wanna dooffer supper tonight?”
    C-word: “Lets go to Applebbe’s, I’m dying for a good salad!”

  • Thank you. I had to back up the Tivo to make sure I heard that one right, and then I was screaming at the TV. Saying that someone is elite and out-of-touch doesn’t work if you, yourself, are out-of-touch. So criticizing someone for not being comfortable in Applebee’s doesn’t work if you don’t even know that Applebee’s has no salad bar.

    I’m reminded of an anecdote in The Audacity of Hope. Obama was touring Illinois as part of one of his early runs for office, and at a restaurant (TGI Friday’s, I think, but don’t hold me to it), he asked the waiter if he could have some Dijon mustard. His campaign manager, who was eating with him, freaked out at the suggestion of elitism and told him to eat the French’s mustard on the table. The waiter got confused and told him she could get Dijon mustard. He accepted and laughed at his friend, telling him there probably weren’t any reporters there. I took it as a joke on how silly his friend’s fears were. After arugula, orange juice, and bowling, though, it looks like he was right. I don’t blame this on stupid people, but rather on the media thinking that people are stupid. Polls have shown voters want better, more substantive coverage, but the media keep flogging these asinine stories. Clearly, they’re the ones who are really out-of-touch.

  • Doesn’t being a reader of the NYT make you an elite (if not an elitest) by definition (go ahead, ask their ad department)? Doesn’t writing for the NYT make you an elite of the news biz? And doesn’t having an op-ed column just shoot you so far into the elitosphere that you lose touch with all but the elite of the elitest?

    Just askin’?

  • Is America is ready to have a salad with Barack Obama or not? Give me a fucking break. Don’t forget that certain folks in the media determined that America would prefer to have a beer with George W Bush [presumably because, as an avowed teetotaler “Hey, more beer for me!”].

    Can we get through one freaking campaign without asking the insipid questions like:

    Would Americans like to eat Stouffer’s Lasagna with Hillary Clinton?
    Would Americans like to watch “Back to the Future III” with Huckabee?
    Would Americans like to read Somerset Maugham with Mitt Romney?
    Would Americans like to attend a natural childbirth in a bus station with Chelsea Clinton?
    Would Americans like to beat the shit out of a hobo under a bridge with John McCain?
    Would Americans like to pick huckleberries and eat grass with Richard Clark?
    Would Americans like to smoke weed and drive to Denver to see Springsteen in a VW Passat with Giuliani?
    Would Americans like to CGI Michelle Obama’s face onto Sarah Jessica Parker’s body in that “Sex in the City” movie?

    Just once, just freakin’ once[!], I’d like for this big match to be determined by an objective, unbiased question like:

    Would Americans like to entrust the future of all mankind to Barack Obama or a senile, crotchety, skank-chasing war hound?

    Just sayin’.

  • I don’t eat at Applebee’s and I’m not all that elite. myself.

    We’re mired in two disastrous wars, the economy and our foreign relations are both in the toilet, we’ve (at best) ignored the environment these last seven years…and what we should really be concerned with is how appropriately “white trashy” Barack Obama is?

    We’ve had eight years of the hill billy and another eight years of the stupid one. Can we please try something different this time.

  • I’m waiting for David Brooks to come right out and say Obama is too competent to be president, that we want a chief executive that can trash a Navy Figher jet and not know what he’s talking about when discussing who’s fighting wars and for what reason. That we, as Americans, are UNCOMFORTABLE with people who know what they’re talking about, because you know…YOU JUST KNOW…they think they’re better than us…and people like that can’t be trusted. Too, you know, UPPITY, wink wink.

    In other words, easily led boobs. THAT’S who we want to have their finger on the button.

    I’m quite comfortable with having someone smarter, more sophisticated and more intelelctually curious than I leading this country if they’re using their powers for good. Lord knows I’ve had neither/nor the past 8 years…

  • Why does anyone take this person seriously? If people just stop quoting him, maybe the NYT would have to hire someone else to get a rise out of the liberals.

    This includes Friedman and Dowd.

    I have cancelled my local newspaper because of whose commentaries they choose to publish.

  • What a stupid argument. It’s even more pointless than voting sor who you would rather have a beer with.

    1.) I don’t want my president to be someone I have a beer with. I want my president to be someone who can intelligently assess an issue and then come up with a plan and lead.

    2.) Why wouldn’t Obama fit in at an Applebee’s (salad bar or no salad bar). Because he is too educated to eat with the masses? Because he is always seen dressed in a suit. My college-educated self can change out of a business attire (mostly pant suits, ha!) at the end of the day, throw on jeans and a shirt, and enjoy a good meal out at a mid-priced restaurant chain. Why is this possibility not an option for Obama? Maybe he prefers Chilis to Applebee’s?

    3.) What is it with the perception that education is bad and all of a sudden someone with a college degree is too good for everyone else. You can’t win. If you don’t go to school you’re an uneducated hick. If you do go to school, then you’re an elitist.

    4.) What makes anyone think that McCain would be rushing to eat at Applebee’s as well.

  • On June 3rd, 2008 at 1:46 pm, chrenson said:
    Just once, just freakin’ once[!], I’d like for this big match to be determined by an objective, unbiased question like:

    Would Americans like to entrust the future of all mankind to Barack Obama or a senile, crotchety, skank-chasing war hound?

    Just sayin’.
    ______________________

    This word you are using “objective,” I do not think it means what you think it means.

    But I hear ya, loud and clear.

  • I find Brooks both insulting and buffoonish. He writes for the NYT and debates Mark Shields almost every night on PBS. Does he know who his audience is? Does he think they are going to buy into the Applebee’s argument?

  • Sir, I served at Applebee’s. I know Applebee’s. Applebee’s is a frequent eating spot of mine. And let me tell you sir, Applebee’s is no TGI Friday’s. (apologies to Lloyd Bentsen)

    Nor does it have a salad bar. But as Brooks probably isn’t aware…we blue-collar folk prefer meat foods over salad bars anyway.

  • Let’s see…this from Wikipedia about Mr. Brooks:

    He graduated from the University of Chicago in 1983 with a degree in history.

    So a guy with a degree from one of the nations top schools is telling people who don’t have degrees just how irregular it is to have a degree from one of the nations top schools.

    My head is spinning.

    Just like Rush or O’Reilly, who makes multi-millions, is so for the little guy.

    Dumb and Dumber are the people of this country who let themselves buy this shit…packaged in a lovely red, white and blue ribbon. How easy to get played when you want to believe.

  • And by the way, if I want salad, I think I’ll do Ruby Tuesday’s. Their salad bar rocks.

    Not sure if that makes me an elitist or a dumb shit, based on Mr. Brooks criteria.

  • One thing’s for sure, Gramps McCain would be very comfortable eating at a nonexistent salad bar, and emphatically tell us how great it was. When challenged, his campaign would point out that Applebee’s might have a salad bar someday, so we’d just be nitpicking verb tenses like a bunch of elitists.

  • I wonder when “anti-intellectualism” started in America.

    I recently visited President Garfield’s home here in Ohio – his library was STACKED with great works of his time – I could spend an entire day just reading the titles…

    Didn’t they have any “working class whites” to pander to with beer and bowling in those days?

  • Racer X at 27: Now that made me howl.

    I wonder when “anti-intellectualism” started in America.

    Well, it’s been in and out of fashion since day one. In the modern era, I’d say Nixon raised it to an art form and the GOP has been running with it ever since.

  • I went to Shaw’s to get my salad today. I never though of stopping at applebee’s.

  • “I recently visited President Garfield’s home here in Ohio – his library was STACKED with great works of his time – I could spend an entire day just reading the titles…”

    And he was assassinated within six months. TAKE THIS AS A WARNING, INTELLECTUALS!

  • Just came here to say Applebee’s is really, really bad food. Even Big Boy is way better than Applebee’s.

  • I used to like David Brooks. What happened? Did I get smarter or did he get dumber? Was he always so foolish and I just didn’t notice?

  • Ohioan, I hear you. There’s this undercurrent that somehow being intelligence and especially book learning is bad. I know it started long before Bush came into office, but his administration has really highlighted this trend. Everything from censoring scientists talking about global warming to arguning to teach creationism as biology to how Bush himself likes to make fun of scientists and other intellectuals (I was a C student, this is an egghead scientist, and I’m the president. It’s funny.)

  • I always find it strange that the Republicans are always trying to slam the Democrats as being the out-of-touch party, fielding candidates that don’t relate to the common man. So, who have they run? An ex-movie star, who obviously could do a creditable job of pretending to be a common man. The son of an investment banker/US Senator who went from the elite ivy halls of the east coast to Texas, where he proceeded to build a fortune off the sweat of his own brow and his family’s extensive connections, and the prep-school/ivy legacy son of that son of an investment banker/US Senator, who himself was the son of POTUS. These are real regular guys…all of them.

    Somehow, with the exception of Bubba, all the Democrats were painted as some sort of elitists with only a hazy idea of what common people are like. Not only couldn’t Papa Bush make that one fly against Bubba, but his little sock buying expedition wrote finis to his residency in the WH.

    I don’t know how the Republicans are going to make the son and grandson of admirals and third generation service academy graduate seem the more common of the candidates, but that seems to be exactly what they are aiming for. In Obama’s case, a bi-racial child, essentially raised by a single parent and shipped off to relatives, who worked hard to get an education, I think they are going to have a hard time. Their argument boils down to an argument that being smart is somehow not “regular”.

    I suppose that Obama can start developing a taste for pork rinds and declare that if he is elected to the presidency the WH won’t serve arugula or any other elitist vegetables. Maybe that will make A holes like Brooks happy.

  • Would Americans like to entrust the future of all mankind to Barack Obama or a senile, crotchety, skank-chasing war hound?

    Well, it might not be completely objective—but I’d have included quite a few more “descriptive terms” for that cash-sucking reunion of oxydized, septuagenarian bovine excrement.

    Besides—I like the salads they have at Applebee’s. They’re actually real meals, and not just the shred-o-this-and-sliver-o-that like most places offer. Plus, I CAN have a beer with my President at Applebee’s. It’s the only place outside of Canada where I can get a tall draft (ever see the size of Applebee’s “Brewtus?”) of LaBatt’s that doesn’t take like stale Clydesdale piss “BootWiper”….

  • McCain will be able to pull out dozens of instances, from torture to global warming to spending, in which he broke with his party, as Rush Limbaugh will tell you.

    Did he really write that without convulsing in laughter? If so, he’s even dumber than I thought.

    “Oh, Limbaugh will vouch for him? Fine by us, then!”

  • If the democrats get in power they will push for a constitutional amendment requiring all restaurants to have a salad bar!

  • “Obama’s problem is he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who can go into an Applebee’s salad bar and people think he fits in naturally there.”

    That is so silly, although now I’m curious to know where Brooks thinks Obama would fit in naturally.

    I suppose it could have been worse – …. doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who’d fit in at Denny’s, doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who’d fit naturally in your country club, ……

  • Ah, I see. His degree from University of Chicago explains why he thinks Chicago is a “university town”.

    Of course, the discomfort that Brooks imagines people at Applebee’s feeling about Obama is really the projection of the discomfort he, Brooks, would feel eating at an Applebee’s.

    His secret shame is that he gets paid to bloviate as if he is knowledgable, but he really deep-down knows he has no idea what he’s talking about. His smile is his shield as he makes stuff up out of his own imagination.

  • Majun, exactly! What’s that barcode thingy? You want to talk about elitist, puleeeze!

    Bush the regular guy? Only in the brains department and his ability to act like a dumb frat boy. And even then he’s elitist!

    What an absolute bunch of malarky. And Dumb and Dumber buy into it. The Goopers have done a really good job of making us want to be stupid.

  • I wonder when “anti-intellectualism” started in America.

    Here’s a little history: town v. gown. I recall Al Gore received a lot of grief for being verbose. The Clintons were certainly scandalized for their associations with the Hollywood elite, which I interpreted as a slur against Jews in the industry. On the other hand, Carter (who just endorsed Obama btw) was a nuclear engineer yet characterized as a redneck.

    Whatever works I guess.

  • “We haven’t had two presidential candidates as far removed from the mainstream suburban lifestyle.”

    Really? The last three presidents went to ivy league schools, and the one before that started out as a Hollywood actor.

    Ordinary people do not become president because there’s only one president. If you are running for president, you are by definition part of a vanishingly minuscule minority. This ordinary guy malarkey started with the 2000 election not because Bush was such an ordinary guy, but because Bush fulfilled the stereotype that pundits like David Brooks have about ordinary guys (kind of a dim bulb).

    Whenever pundits and columnists drag this corpse out of the grave, they’re not talking about the candidates; they’re talking about themselves. THEY can’t imagine going to “Applebee’s salad bar”; they’re writing about their hang-ups about dealing with “ordinary people”.

  • I was thinking about this whole situation of who’s cool and who’s not on a presidential level. And it dawned on me that George W. Bush just is not cool. He doesn’t seem to know anything about current technology–internet, email, YouTube, eBay, etc. You never see a picture of a computer on his desk. He dresses kind of conservatively dopey. Dumb hair. His language never includes current words or slang. His sense of humor is over farts and puns and just-this-side of mean. He never makes references to contemporary authors, artists, musicians, even TV shows. Truly he’s just an uncool guy and what we so desperately need now is someone who’s cool! (P.S. Hillary is even way cooler than W, and then there’s Obama who is Mr. Cool Personified).

  • Would Americans like to smoke weed and drive to Denver to see Springsteen in a VW Passat with Giuliani?

    I would if we could gag & blindfold Rudy…

  • OK – and a nuclear engineer, too.

    I like to head down to the Chili’s and mingle with the Hollywood actors, Ivy League educated lawyers, scions of rich and politically connected families, and nuclear engineers. It’s your average gallery of Joe Six-packs and Jane Lunchpails.

    God, David Brooks is an idiot.

  • Look folks, Brooks is a Republican. He is not there to be reasonable. He is there to do things that he thinks will help the Republican cause.
    When I first started hearing his comments on PBS, I thought he was sort of okay. He seemed moderate compared to Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, etc. And he certainly has that quality on the surface. Over the years I began to dislike him more and more; mostly because the apparent reasonableness/moderation came to be obvious as a cover. Wolf in sheep’s clothing. He wants to use that affable facade to sell Republican framing messages. That’s all there is there.

  • But Obama’s path through the university towns is particularly elusive.

    This is utterly facetious. Is Brooks really referring to Obama’s path in his life through university towns???

    As far as I’m aware, Obama has lived in the following places:

    Honolulu (growing up)
    Los Angeles (early college)
    NYC (Columbia)
    Chicago (most of his adult life)
    Boston (Harvard)

    Which, exactly, of these is a “university town”? I’ll possibly grant his Harvard days, as he wasn’t exactly living in the Boston financial district. But he lived for years in the South Side of Chicago working directly with poor and working-class people.

    Even more than most of what Brooks spouts, this is just a lie.

  • I wonder when “anti-intellectualism” started in America.

    Andrew Jackson.

  • I recently visited President Garfield’s home here in Ohio – his library was STACKED with great works of his time – I could spend an entire day just reading the titles… -Ohioan

    Bush went there recently, too, but was disappointed when he found out that Garfield enjoyed Mondays, did not have a canine friend named Odie, and the books in his library were not graphical renderings of the exploits of a mischievous cat.

  • The anti-intellectual trend is rather annoying, and has been for me since Reagan. The sad truth is that 66% (pick a %) of the people in this country graduated from high schoool in the bottom 66%. I don’t think that makes me better than them. But I think it shapes their attitudes toward smartness and intellectual achievement. The basic thing in high school is: you are an adolescent and you really need something to hang your self-esteem on. So, whether it is sports, having the right kind of car, or just being a good friend to some people, for 66% it AIN’T gonna be academic achievement.
    The thing that is unfortunate about it is that many (probably a majority) of the intellectually blessed people that I have encountered don’t think that they are basically “better” than others. They just like using their talents to tackle tough problems. It is third parties that paint them as “elitists” for ulterior motives (political gain). Oddly enough, the intellectually elite people in our country are not necessarily in the social elite, yet the frame that is painted for them by those third parties with the political agenda is based on a dislike of the social elite.
    I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but this is a continuously frustrating phenomenon, this anti-intellectualism.

  • would i eat at applebee’s?
    i would not, could not, if you please.
    i would not eat there with a mouse.
    i would not go outside my house.
    i would not go there in the rain.
    i would not go there on a train.
    i would not eat at applebee’s,
    so please, brooks, stop annoying me.

  • Which, exactly, of these is a “university town”?

    According to Ian Faith, Boston really isn’t much of a college town.

  • In the modern era, I’d say Nixon raised it to an art form

    Maria, did you happen to see this week’s New Yorker in which Roger Stone explains that in detail (along with the photo of Stone’s Nixon-face tattoo in between his shoulders)?

    I would call Stone a truly vile slimeball, but he would no doubt take it as a compliment.

    And let me throw in as an aside, by the way, that you’ve now been absolutely on fire for about the last week of comments in every thread you’ve joined. Really awesome stuff. Thanks for the great reading.

  • “Peter Hart did a focus group for the Annenberg Public Policy Center with independent voters in Virginia that captured reactions you hear all the time. These independent voters were intrigued by Obama’s “change” message, but they knew almost nothing about him except that he used to go to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church.” I am assuming the folks in Virgina can read so I can only assume they know nothing about Obama because the media did not tell them anything.

  • David Brooks:

    * born and raised in Manhattan in family of academics
    * graduated from University of Chicago
    * hired by William F. Buckley, Jr.
    * worked in Manhattan, Brussel and Washington
    * lives in posh neighborhood in Bethesda, Maryland
    * sends his children to private schools

    Other than that, just your regular middle American, blue collar working stiff.

  • Brooks has probably never been in an Applebee’s, but he knows all about it and the people that eat there. He brodered a real American exiting one once I’m guessing.

    Brodered (v.) 1. When one member of a group is questioned, thereby gaining intimate knowledge of the thoughts and motivations of the entire group.

  • Brooks’ on-line column no longer makes reference to Applebee’s non-existant salad bars.

    Brooks should’ve said:
    “Obama’s problem is he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who can go into an Applebee’s, enjoy some crispy fried chicken and have people think he fits in naturally there.”

    I’m sure they have it.

  • Brooks’ on-line column no longer makes reference to Applebee’s non-existant salad bars.

    Brooks should’ve said:
    “Obama’s problem is he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who can go into an Applebee’s, enjoy some crispy fried chicken and have people think he fits in naturally there.”

    I’m sure they have it.

  • It’s as if they can’t hang Obama’s life onto anything from their own immediate experiences and, as a result, he is an abstraction.

    So let me get this straight:

    The media only reports on Obama when it involves a 10 second clip from a preacher at his church, flag pins, and his Muslim heritage. And yet the media is stunned people only know that Obama had a crazy preacher at his church, doesn’t wear a flag pin, and has been accused of being a Muslim (as if that’s a bad thing).

    These people have absolutely ZERO self awareness.

  • David Brooks gives elitism a bad name.
    Obama is twice the man Brooks will ever be.

  • Anyone who works to define another person who is not present to defend him/herself is doing it for his/her own ulterior motives. In the case of politics the reason is simply to get elected to exercise the power one doesn’t wish one’s opponent to get. David Brooks and his punditry are partisan, and merely trying to disguise it by creating fantastic stories they think will help negatively define their opponents to an unassuming American electorate. In this case, their opponent is one Barack Obama so we can rest assured more fantastic stories will be coming our way as we get closer to November ’08.

    As such, remember to help make the Republican party obsolete by voting Democratic this time around! -Kevo

  • “We’ve had eight years of the hill billy and another eight years of the stupid one. Can we please try something different this time.” -1:49 pm, by SaintZak

    Bingo! We have a winner…

  • Frankly, anyone who is comfortable at a restaurant with waiters and no “make your own sundae” soft-serve station is an elitist snob who can never understand my values.

  • I’m as educationally elite as they come. I have a PhD and 2 masters’ degrees (5 college degrees altogther). My father was a university professor, my mother an academic vice-president, and both of them also had PhD’s (very unusual for women of my mother’s generation; she’s 83 this week). I drive a fuel-efficient car, belong to book clubs, think my taxes are too low, have a professional career and am generally the person who is supposed to be the “real folks” worst nightmare. And I eat at Applebee’s fairly frequently. Also at the Olive Garden and Red Robin (where I like to watch Monday Night Football). And I will be voting for Obama. So there, David Brooks.

  • Hoo boy, who’s the elitist now?

    Someone in either the American Prospect or Dissent said that the president is not your father, your husband, your pastor or your drinking companion–those are all important roles but they’re not the president’s role.

    When did anti-intellectualism begin in this country? Hard to say. Richard Hofstadter in Anti-Intellectualism in American Life says that many of the early pioneers were illiterate, and notes self-righteous opposition to learning among extremists in the mid 18th-century Great Awakening (tho not in George Whitefield or in most of his followers) and in the opposition to Thomas Jefferson in 1800.

  • >Brooks has probably never been in an Applebee’s, but he knows all about it and the people that eat there. He brodered a real American exiting one once I’m guessing.

    Brooks spent some time in central Pennsylvania in the buildup to his theory on red and blue America. But maybe there was no Applebee’s where he was.

  • Comments are closed.