Odd silence at Fort Benning — during and after Bush’s speech

I admit at the outset that I did not hear the president’s remarks at Fort Benning, Georgia, yesterday. Bush was reportedly looking for a “friendly audience and a patriotic backdrop” to help sell his “new” escalation policy, and the president who can hardly resist using troops as props probably thought this trip to a military base would be similar to others.

Except it wasn’t. The New York Times said Bush “received a restrained response from soldiers who clapped politely but showed little of the wild enthusiasm that they ordinarily shower on the commander in chief.” The Washington Post noted that Bush received minimal applause, which was “hardly the boisterous, rock-star reception Bush typically gets at military bases. During his lunchtime speech, the soldiers were attentive but quiet. The LA Times said the president “received a less enthusiastic reception.” The far-right Washington Times said the troops’ response to the president was “tepid.”

But it’s sometimes difficult to gauge an audience’s reaction solely from applause. It’s far better, in this case, to talk to the troops themselves, and get their perspectives on the war, escalation, and the president. And the plane-full of reporters who were on hand for the Ft. Benning event would have done just that — if only the Bush gang had let them.

[The White House] didn’t want the reporters to talk to those soldiers — or any others, for that matter.

Scott Stanzel, the deputy White House press secretary, initially told reporters that they’d be able to speak to some of the soldiers who had listened to the president’s speech in a large dining hall in Fort Benning, a sprawling facility in Georgia. That would have been the first opportunity for many reporters to talk to those most directly affected by the Bush administration’s Iraq troop escalation: the soldiers who will be sent to Iraq sooner, and kept there longer.

When the president finished his prepared remarks, however, reporters were shooed out of the dining hall by White House aides and public-affairs personnel from the military base, who said that soldiers were now off-limits to the media.

If I didn’t know better, I’d say White House officials, after noticing the troops’ response to the speech, decided they better not risk letting soldiers talk to reporters. A bunch of quotes from angry active-duty men and women probably wouldn’t help the p.r. campaign right now, would it?

Now, reporters were none too pleased by this. They’d been promised access to the troops, and then denied access without justification. But, the White House reminds us, they eventually reversed course. Sort of.

Fort Benning personnel called the media filing center around 4:30 to say that they had picked out a small number of soldiers who would be willing to speak to reporters. With the press charter to Washington leaving less than an hour later, however, reporters skipped the opportunity.

So, let’s review:

— Reporters are told they can talk to the troops.

— Reporters are told they’re forbidden from talking to the troops.

— Shortly before leaving, reporters are told they can talk to a hand-picked, small group of troops, but no one else.

You don’t suppose those carefully-chosen group of soldiers would magically have stuck to the White House talking points, do you?

Wow. Just wow.

The wheels have officially come off the wagon. When the Bush PR machine can’t get even a room full of troops to clap louder, it’s over.

Support the troops. Impeach the Liar.

  • Maybe the restrained applause explains his pained look. His expectations of the world around him are not being met – anywhere.

  • Come on, everyone knows you can’t have a Potemkin village press event if you let the reporters look behind the facades!

    I feel sorry for the poor apparatchik in the press office who hadn’t pre-screened and prepped some troops with talking points beforehand. He’s probably looking for work today. It’s just another sign how the Bush press people have lost their edge since the campaign ended. I guess the good ones have all gone to their corporate jobs.

  • Well, the quotes may not have made it to the Official Media, but there are reports that have made it to Traveling Soldier, and the truth is that the tepid applause was an act of resistance. The troops were ordered by their senior NonComs to applaud the President, so they did. They did it exactly right, nobody could complain about them. They applauded when he mentioned the guy who got the Medal of Honor, when he promised to win and when he said he was going to expland the army. This was indeed an act of resistance.

    The General in command of the base closed the entire facility to troops talking to reporters. This reminds me of how the commanding general at Fort Hood used to operate back in the fall of 1968 when we at the Oleo Strut were doing actions in Killeen. Even with the base on lockdown, we’d get at least 100 guys getting over the fence to come demonstrate, so that general did have reason to be afraid what would happen since you could figure from talk in the coffeehouse that for every real GI militant, there were a hundred who agreed with him who weren’t ready for an out and out confrontation.

    I bet the guys who go in the “surge” will be real gung-ho go-getters, you bet. Uh-huh. Baloney – they will be covering their asses. Most of the Army over there is only doing the minimum they have to, to minimize losses and give themselves a chance.

    With the Army Times poll and this act of resistance, Bush has lost the military.

  • OFF TOPIC: Has anyone heard if invading a consulate is considered an act of war? I keep wondering if these 20,000 troops are really intended for Iraq or if it is a staging ground for Iran?

  • Maybe the troops are putting two and two together, and seeing that Bush is moving towards attacking Iran.

    \”…the administration is laying the rhetorical and operational foundations for implementing a presidential decision to initiate military operations against Iran…\”

    A cornered animal can do some crazy shit. Please, someone with the authority, stop this madness before we go over the cliff…

  • Maybe the soldiers were aware that limits on the lengths of tours of duty were going to be rescinded. Per the AP …

    “A citizen-soldier could be mobilized for a 24-month stretch in Iraq or Afghanistan, then demobilized and allowed to return to civilian life, only to be mobilized a second time for as much as an additional 24 months.”

    All the Viet Nam movies loved to throw in the line “Your job is not to die for your country, but make the other guy die for his country.” I doubt Bush cares who dies as long the occupation goes on for as long as he’s in office.

  • Stage managing the production is all that’s left. This show is heading for way way way way way off broadway.

  • Can’t reporters ask questions of whomever they choose? I understand that soldiers can be ordered not to speak, but how can the press roll over and play dead so willingly? I thought after Katrina the press claimed that its collective testis had dropped and they were up to the task. Guess not.

  • ***Odd silence at Fort Benning — during and after Bush’s speech***

    CB, that’s because those guys already knew they were on their way to Baghdad. NPR spilled the beans on it early this morning. And I quote:

    “The brigade slotted for deployment to Baghdad over the weekend will come from Fort Benning.”

    Here’s a hint—watch what units the chimpanzee visits. It’ll provide a very strong clue as to who’s getting sent back into the meat-grinder…..

  • Like racerx, I have this strong sinking feeling that the Bush administration believes that the best way to resurrect his power and support is to start another war. The silence of the troops at Ft. Benning should give him a clue that this will not work this time. Because it should doesn’t mean it will, unfortunately.

  • If the Democrats lack the guts to impeach and convict George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney, thereby putting Pelosi in charge, perhaps we should turn to the Army, as has every other two-bit pseudo democracy in our hemisphere at one time or another.

  • It’s easy enough to understand the troops’ reaction. They’re the ones who are going to be getting shot at, after all, not Chicken George.

    And maybe they’re finally starting to realize that their Commander in Chief really doesn’t give a damn about them, that they’re just pawns in his neo-con games.

    When they have to be ordered to clap, the game is already up.

    Poor Chicken George.

  • Ed at #16 voices a thought that’s occurred to me, if uncomfortably, ever since finishing Thomas Ricks’ “Fiasco.”

    The way this administration has abused the military–and given how profoundly its ethos of ideological and anti-empirical thinking runs against the meritocracy of the armed forces–some kind of showdown is conceivable.

    The model isn’t really Latin America, but more like Turkey–where the military occasionally intervenes to keep civil society on a moderate course when the elected government veers too far in either direction.

    We shouldn’t need that here, because the democratic process is supposed to rein in extremist governance. Until this past November, I was honestly worried that our collective decision-making had failed so badly, thanks mostly to the distortion of information within a corporate-owned media environment and what seemed to be an ever-growing chunk of the population that was simply impervious to information that contradicted their preset belief system, that the basic democratic premise no longer worked.

    But the election eased those fears, with independents and a large number of Republicans showing that they could still tell what’s up. Now the problem is a rogue branch of government that refuses to play by the old rules–not surprising, if you agree with Krugman and others that the Bush administration is essentially a radical/revolutionary force.

    So we need to stop them before they do more lasting damage. The military is best positioned to do this, behind the scenes if at all possible but overtly if need be.

  • Joshua #9 writes: ” I keep wondering if these 20,000 troops are really intended for Iraq or if it is a staging ground for Iran?”

    Biden made it absolutely clear yesterday that incursions into neighboring countries (Iran, Syria) is not part of the commander in chimp’s authority. That would, according to Biden, trigger a constitutional crisis. The Dems have found their balls, hopefully, and even most of the Republicans were criticizing the surge. Grounds for impeachment?

  • A RESPONSIBLE REPORTER, you might think, would park himself in the first bar outside Benning’s main gate at about 1630 hours and talk to the guys for a few hours. it doesn’t take a genius to figure out where the troops will be without being censored.

    A RESPONSIBLE NEWS MEDIA would report the responsible reporter’s findings.

    We apparantly have a press that only reports from places that the White House is willing to fly them to.

  • “Fort Benning personnel called the media filing center around 4:30 to say that they had picked out a small number of soldiers who would be willing to speak to reporters.”

    In other words, they found the few soldiers that would speak positively of the Shrubite and the plan.

  • Expecting the soldiers to welcome that waste of skin with open arms is a bit like expecting a bunch of bulls to welcome the knacker man or slaves to stand up and cheer when massa comes by with the whip.

    If you still need proof that the PotUS is out of touch, look no further than the fact that he thought a military base would provide a friendly audience. Unless by “friendly” he meant “Can’t boo me off the stage because they’ll get in trouble.”

    Steve @# 14 has a good thought, but knowing the Child-in-Chief he’ll decide to cancel “Stay the Course Tour ’07” due to poor audience response. Unfortuately President Pouty Pants will be even happier when those mean ol’ soldiers get fragged. That’ll teach ’em not to kiss the royal diaper rash.

  • As satisfying and necessary as a military “intervention” might be, we must remember that the other side will scream (and they will) about how they deposed an elected government. Considering how unhinged and dense many of them are, the hard Right and their mouthpieces will not see the nuances that make a situation like this unique so all they will see is the end result. Imagine the right screaming about this if say Obama becomes Pres in 2009.

    The Repubs and Wall Street tried to do this to FDR in 1932 by trying to recruit former USMC general Smedley Butler and using the VFW as the muscle. The plot might have made it had not Butler went to Congress and exposed the plot.

    Democracy must be saved but it has to be thru the democratic process. Impeachment is a must.

    A less dangerous approach would be for the Army and Marines to refuse orders from the Commander In Chief like what the French Army did in 1917 after enduring one too many slaughters at the hands of pompous arrogant incompetents. They threw down the gauntlet and said enough! It forced a change in command, strategy and tactics which kept more of France’s young alive.

    I’ve heard enough stories from my parents about living under a military dictatorship and from the various clashes at the end of the Roman Empire that letting the military do what the electorate and pols do makes my blood run cold.

  • Art K,

    A RESPONSIBLE REPORTER, you might think, would park himself in the first bar outside Benning’s main gate at about 1630 hours and talk to the guys for a few hours. it doesn’t take a genius to figure out where the troops will be without being censored.

    I was thinking the same thing when I read this. What are the “reporters” thinking? “I might miss my ride back”? C’mon…talk about dereliction of duty. Since when do reporters take their orders from the White House? Sounds like we might have to send some enterprising bloggers down the next time W is slated to speak to the troops.

  • This seems un-bush-like. I would have guessed that he would have gone to a base where the troops were no going back asap. I would have thought a nice ship in Norfolk would have worked too. After all the Navy is not really in harms way like the infantry is. Rove is losing his touch.

  • Edo’s right

    There’s got to be some enterprising bloggers/local news reporters within an hour’s drive of Columbus GA, Jacksonville NC, Fayetteville NC, Oceanside CA, etc. etc.

    Now’s their chance for national exposure.

  • Former Dan, I agree with you. A coup to replace even as odious a government as Bush’s would be opening Pandora’s Box to unimaginable horrors.

    I also agree that there are significant steps short of a coup that would accomplish the same result–though that too could be said to set a dangerous precedent.

    The current gathering crisis makes it even more unfortunate that the Republicans so fouled the notion of impeachment. Call it Tom DeLay’s last misdeed: because his Republican Jihad faction abused this constitutional tool ten years ago, it’s now rusted and broken when we most need it.

  • I’m trying to find the article on something called Traveling Soldier that Tom Cleaver refers to in his post at #8.

    Does anyone know how to get to that article? Thanks,

  • Uncle Joe Stalin seems to be channeling his ghost-thought through our beloved President. -Kevin

  • When I was in the army, there was still a draft, so I don’t have a good sense of the all-volunteer army’s, well, sense. We should be getting near the end of many 4-year enlistments. Of course, that doesn’t mean those soldiers will be discharged on time.

    It reminds me of armies past — particularly during the American Revolution and the Civil War — when initial enlistments were very short, and there was a great worry over whole brigades mustering out.

    I just can’t believe an abundance of troops will be willing to reenlist in the coming months. Some, I know, have plans to make a lot of money as private contractors in Iraq upon discharge. Heaven help them if they are kept in uniform “for the duration.”

  • Alibubba- don’t forget those 4 years of IRR along with the 4 years of active service… So it’s a minimum 8 year commitment now (many of the guys I know re-enlisted specifically because they figured they would get called up anyway, or stop-lossed, so they might as well get a bonus if they are going to have to serve). If these were actual 4-year contracts, with NO way for the Army to involuntarily extend/ call-up, then the Army would already be down by at least 40-50K. (only anecdotal guess on my part, but considering the number of 1AD troops who vowed to get out of the Army as soon as they get beyond the IRR period after 8 years of service, I think I might be underestimating, if anything).

  • Castor Troy —

    Good point. I thought about the inactive reserve after I posted, but at the time, I was living in a world long ago. When I left the army, the possibility of actually calling up the IRR was so remote that we figured it would take a world war. Fact is, with activating Guard and Reserves, and extending tours, plus employing stop-loss tactics, we really aren’t so far from a draft today. A draft may never happen, but I would never have thought a deserter would become commander-in-chief.

  • Steve – Your account/assertion, while creative, is incorrect. I was overruled by the Commanding General of the base. It was absolutely my preference that reporters be able to talk with any soldiers they want. The Commanding General sets base policy, not the White House. We believe that White House reporters don’t spend enough time talking with the troops about their commitment to the mission and their reasons for serving. These brave men and women exemplify the best in this country and deserve to have their voices heard. I twice requested the decision be reversed, but was not successful.

    As for the ‘tepid’ response — this was not meant to be a rally. The President was there to talk with the soldiers about the very serious situation in Baghdad and his plans to help the Iraqis secure their country. Additionally, after the lunch the President was going to meet with 25 families who’ve lost loved ones in the War on Terror — this obviously adds to the solemnity of the day.

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