On eve of telecom vote, AT&T whistleblower steps up

After several weeks of wrangling, the Senate Judiciary Committee will consider a revised FISA bill today, including the much-discussed provision that provides retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies that illegally cooperated with the NSA on warrantless domestic searches.

Perhaps the most notable player in the debate has turned out to be a retired AT&T technician most of us have never heard of: Mark Klein. It was Klein who came forward in 2005 with first-hand evidence that AT&T had allowed the NSA to use its San Francisco facilities to capture millions of phone and email communications without a warrant. As of this week, Klein’s perspective is front and center.

In an interview yesterday, he alleged that the NSA set up a system that vacuumed up Internet and phone-call data from ordinary Americans with the cooperation of AT&T. Contrary to the government’s depiction of its surveillance program as aimed at overseas terrorists, Klein said, much of the data sent through AT&T to the NSA was purely domestic. Klein said he believes that the NSA was analyzing the records for usage patterns as well as for content. […]

One of Klein’s documents listed links to 16 entities, including Global Crossing, a large provider of voice and data services in the United States and abroad; UUNet, a large Internet provider in Northern Virginia now owned by Verizon; Level 3 Communications, which provides local, long-distance and data transmission in the United States and overseas; and more familiar names such as Sprint and Qwest. It also included data exchanges MAE-West and PAIX, or Palo Alto Internet Exchange, facilities where telecom carriers hand off Internet traffic to each other.

“I flipped out,” he said. “They’re copying the whole Internet. There’s no selection going on here. Maybe they select out later, but at the point of handoff to the government, they get everything.” (emphasis added)

Klein described the efforts between the Bush administration and the telecoms as “massively illegal and unconstitutional.” He’s heard all the talking points on behalf of immunity, and he’s carefully explained why they’re all wrong.

Spencer Ackerman talked to Klein yesterday.

Klein explained why he traveled all the way from San Francisco to lobby Senators about the issue: if the immunity provision passes, Americans may never know how extensive the surveillance program was — or how deeply their privacy may have been invaded.

“The president has not presented this truthfully,” said Klein, a 62-year old retiree. “He said it was about a few people making calls to the Mideast. But I know this physical equipment. It copies everything. There’s no selection of anything, at all — the splitter copies entire data streams from the internet, phone conversations, e-mail, web-browsing. Everything.”

Klein also chatted with Chris Dodd’s team, and explained that the administration’s efforts affected “everybody,” not just AT&T customers, because “they were copying everything flowing across the internet cables, the major internet links between AT&T’s network and other companies’ networks.”

Asked if the government was only targeting suspected terrorists, Klein added, “To perform what they say they want to do, which is look at international traffic, none of this makes any sense. These installations only make sense if they’re doing a huge, massive domestic dragnet on everybody in the United States.”

If senators disregard Klein’s first-hand knowledge, and approve retroactive immunity, the extent of the surveillance program will remain a mystery, and Americans seeking their day in court will be denied justice.

We’ll have a far better sense of how this will unfold later today. Stay tuned.

If Congress decides NOT to grant the telecoms immunity, and I wouldn’t bet a nickel on that, does that mean that the Bush administration would then be asked to explain why this information was demanded from the telecoms in the pending lawsuits?

All this data-mining started the month after Bush’s inauguration, not in response to 911, so I don’t see how the administration could possibly claim it was done for “security purposes” in 2005 when Mr. Klein discovered the secret room, since it was a continuation of what they’d been doing all along.

Dick Cheney’s evil plans become more and more visible. The big question is will Congress fold again?

  • Something that’s rather puzzling about what they were doing is also the thing that makes it most scary. When you have enough data, the problem becomes how to make sense of it. Massive enough amounts of data become meaningless, unless you have a method for converting it into actionable information. The Stasi in East Germany had copious data about everybody in their society, but they couldn’t stave off the collapse of that regime. I’m curious about what they intended to do with this flood of intercepts…was it for Poindexter’s TIE program? or some other program, which may still be ongoing?

  • Ah, it looks like he discovered the surveillance in 2003, not 2005, though his realization came in stages.

    From the WaPo link:

    His first inkling that something was amiss came in summer 2002 when he opened the door to admit a visitor from the National Security Agency to an office of AT&T in San Francisco.

    “What the heck is the NSA doing here?” Mark Klein, a former AT&T technician, said he asked himself.

    A year or so later, he stumbled upon documents that, he said, nearly caused him to fall out of his chair. The documents, he said, show that the NSA gained access to massive amounts of e-mail and search and other Internet records of more than a dozen global and regional telecommunications providers. AT&T allowed the agency to hook into its network at a facility in San Francisco and, according to Klein, many of the other telecom companies probably knew nothing about it.

    ….The job entailed building a “secret room” in an AT&T office 10 blocks away, he said. By coincidence, in October 2003, Klein was transferred to that office and assigned to the Internet room. He asked a technician there about the secret room on the 6th floor, and the technician told him it was connected to the Internet room a floor above. The technician, who was about to retire, handed him some wiring diagrams.

    “That was my ‘aha!’ moment,” Klein said. “They’re sending the entire Internet to the secret room.”

    The diagram showed splitters, glass prisms that split signals from each network into two identical copies. One fed into the secret room, the other proceeded to its destination, he said.

    “This splitter was sweeping up everything, vacuum-cleaner-style,” he said. “The NSA is getting everything. These are major pipes that carry not just AT&T’s customers but everybody’s.”

    …Qwest has not been sued because of media reports last year that said the company declined to participate in an NSA program to build a database of domestic phone-call records out of concern about its legality. What the documents show, Klein contends, is that the NSA apparently was collecting several carriers’ communications, probably without their consent.

  • Here’s what I don’t get (there’s a long list of these things, unfortunately): why is it that it’s considered unfair for Mukasey to opine on the issue of whether waterboarding is torture, because he “hasn’t been read into the program,” but the administration expects the various committees to send legislation to the floor without readint them into the program?

    And my biggest “I don’t get it” – at least so far this morning – is why they aren’t standing up, as a body, and saying, “no vote until we know as much as we – we, not you – need to understand what it is we’re voting for.”

  • Not to worry … ever since last November Pelosi and Reid have been making sure that the people’s wishes and our Constitutional rights are being respected.

    Of course they may have relatively more important things to work on than what we pay them for, like raking in all they can get from their lobbyist friends.

    But they do feel our pain. They say.

  • Also, why should a Dem Congress go all the way with retroactive immunity? If the real issue, as many claim, is to protect these companies from financial ruin solely because they did their patriotic duty in helping the federal government keep us safe from the greatest threat ever, why not simply agree to have the federal government pick up the tab for these violations? This allows the case to proceed, it protects the commercial viability of the telecom entities involved, and it will put a price tag on the cost of this misconduct for all the country to see which would allow the Dems to say: “See? This is the cost of breaking the law, courtesy of the GOP.”

  • bubba

    Well, it looks like the administration obviously didn’t NEED the telecoms’ permission to surveille anybody. If they didn’t have permission, it looks like they did it anyway.

    As for your solution, I think it’s a step in the right direction, but I’d rather see the administration pay any damages out of their personal fortunes, not from taxpayer money. After all, they illegally did it for their own personal advantage, not for the benefit of or with the permission of Americans.

    Just a fantasy of mine. It makes me furious that Americans have to pay for the illegal actions of this government — it’s too much like making the victims pay for the crimes of the perpetrators.

  • If senators disregard Klein’s first-hand knowledge, and approve retroactive immunity, the extent of the surveillance program will remain a mystery, and Americans seeking their day in court will be denied justice.

    Now that sounds like an agenda that the Senate can get behind!

  • well, maybe the government – taxpayers – have to pay for those misdeeds…. After all, it’s taxpayers who elected this bunch of morons into office. Even though the buck stops at the president’s desk, the voters (taxpayers) who elected him are just as culpable.

    It’s so typical for apathetic people, who don’t vote, don’t care, etc.. to say they didn’t do it…. The mere fact that you allow morons to be voted in, or you actually helped vote them in, makes you just as culpable…. Maybe next time, the country should do some ‘real’ homework on the candidates and not vote for the guy you would like to have a beer with.

    I understand that most of the people who read CB aren’t in that category, but putting that spin on it may ‘help’ enough of the evangelicals realize how their vote caused more harm that a few activist judges on the supreme court are worth.

    I can dream right?

  • The biggest part of this story — and it’s the one that should be pasted on the front page of every paper and lead every news program for weeks — is that this all started well before 9/11/2001!!!!

    Why on the holy fucking hell doesn’t the media get this? Why is this not the biggest story in decades? WHY HASN’T OUR SUPPOSEDLY DEMOCRATIC LEADERS NOT DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?!?!?

    I’m thisclose to just being done with this country.

  • Mark D is absolutely right. this is the biggest part of the story and it’s being ignored by most everybody. this had absolutely nothing to do with the fucking global war on terra ™ – it had everything to do with destroying our constitution and our country. and my frustration level is just about at the explosion point, too, mark……

  • I gotta admit to being curious about how the Democrats are going to manage to ignore this smoking gun.

  • I’ve been thinking about the concept of shifting baseline syndrome (normally applied to ecology) in relation to the continuous erosion of our civil liberties and our middle class:

    shifting baseline syndrome

    Essentially, if a system (e.g., civil liberties) is in decline for an extended period of time, the baseline for what is “normal” continues to degrade in the eyes of the observer (e.g., Joe Sixpack). Omnipresent cameras and recording devices, omnipresent threats of terror, less and less freedom to protest in proximity to an event, Orwellian redefinition of basic terms such as “torture” — it all feeds into a gradual dulling of public awareness of our liberties.

    I’m worried that even Mr. Klien’s smoking gun — truly frightening, truly over the line, or just one more in a long, long litany produced against this administration? — won’t stop Congress from giving away our rights by fiat. The baseline has shifted so far for this administration that it seems like they can get away with practically anything.

    I look at the protesting lawyers in Pakistan and wonder if we as a society still have that kind of courage and sense of outrage.

  • “well, maybe the government – taxpayers – have to pay for those misdeeds…. After all, it’s taxpayers who elected this bunch of morons into office. Even though the buck stops at the president’s desk, the voters (taxpayers) who elected him are just as culpable.”

    Exactly. Which is also why the trial must proceed, so those who voted for these incompetent, greedy asshats can see the fruits of their own (the voters’)stupidity/greed/ignorance, and pay a price for it. Sort of like rubbing (gently) a puppy’s nose in its own urine/poop when it improperly goes in the house. Although gentleness is not needed for these folks…

  • bee thousand wrote “I look at the protesting lawyers in Pakistan and wonder if we as a society still have that kind of courage and sense of outrage”

    obviously no

  • This was a pretty amazing development. Hopefully it will heat up some investigations. But I still think we’re more likely to find out what really happened and get a modernized law rammed through any time soon that makes this kind of thing unambiguously illegal (for all parties) if we go ahead with the immunity deal.

    The object of the exercise should be to send the people in the administration who ordered this program to jail. That isn’t likely to happen unless we find out everything the telecom’s know and that is a lot less likely to happen if they’re facing the specter of a decade’s worth of civil law suits over anything they tell us. It would be different if we were talking about immunity from criminal charges but no one has even really been asking for that. If anyone on the telecom side actually did anything here that’s actually illegal under existing law, they would still be fully liable.

    But the prospect of a couple of law firms getting rich on class action law suits and my eventual check from AT&T for $0.37 out of the deal five years from now, really just doesn’t satisfy my thirst for blood. I want to see people led away in handcuffs and to me, it seems like the only chance of ever seeing any meaningful action on this will be if it happens right now, in the congress, while everyone is still hopping mad and while the people responsible in the Bush administration are still in office. I frankly think a lot of people are kind of going off half cocked when they see that word “immunity” without ever really stopping to think this through.

  • Bruno & Bubba

    Bush didn’t win either election, 2000 or 2004. I am convinced it was stolen from the Democrats both times, first by the Supreme Court (and where else could Gore have gone?), and if Kerry had challenged the Ohio voting apparatus, I think he would have met the same fate. Otherwise, I’d agree with you about where to place the blame and who’s responsible for the Bush administration’s felonious actions.

    I’m just a firm believer that the one who commits a crime should be the one who directly pays for it. You don’t penalize an employer (taxpayers) who’s forced (by the Supreme Court or lying election officials) to hire someone who goes on a murderous rampage. Non-voting taxpayers may have helped put the criminal in place by not voting, but they didn’t commit the crime.

    Anyway, that’s my argument, and I’m sticking to it!!!!!

  • You know, CalD bring up a great point about immunity.

    Why not give the telecoms immunity fromcivil cases, but not from criminal ones?

    Yes, I realize that hitting them in the pocketbooks is where it hurts most. But as he (or she) pointed out, a civil case will do nothing but make the lawyers millions and get the customers a $5 coupon off their next bill.

    So give them civil immunity, but not criminal immunity.

    Of course, in all likelihood, they’ll get both and the Dems will do nothing more than send a few strongly worded letters. After all, if they really cared about what the American people want, what the Constitution stands for, and the rule of law, we’d be waist deep in criminal trials and impeachment hearings already.

    Instead, we’ve got nothing.

    Assholes.

  • Looks to me like we are dealing with another Watergate situation only magnified by a power of 10…or maybe 100. If NSA is taking ALL data from all carriers, Internet, etc. then we are ALL under surveillance all of the time. There would be no reason for NSA to do this if they did not have technology that could parse and mine the data, which obviously they do. Google works on the Internet, similar technology could be in use by NSA.

    Back to the Watergate analogy….isn’t time that we started impeachment proceedings?? An investigation is needed and impeachment is the only way.

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  • The US press has been all over Jerry Yang, CEO of Yahoo!, for cooperating with a government that has a record of human rights abuses. For some reason, I haven’t seen any outrage in the press over the cooperation shown by AT&Ts CEO with a government that has a record of human rights abuses. I’m sure we’ll see those stories soon, though, because our watchdog press is so principled and objective.

  • THIS IS A THREAT TO AMERICAN LIFESTYLE AND PRIVACY
    OUR BILL OF RIGHTS IS BEING THREATENED BY THIS ACT
    EVERYTHING OUR FOREFATHERS DIED FOR IS AT STAKE
    DO NOT ROLL OVER AND ACT LIKE ITS OK>> THIS IS FAR FAR FROM Ok!!!!

    WOULD YOU BE OK WITH SOMEONE PEEKING IN YOUR WINDOWS AT YOUR SPOUSE NAKED …. would you be ok with me peeking in your bank accounts.. would you be ok with me seizing and knowing every move you make prior to yours.. and your opponents rebuttal .. prior to theirs.. well if you sat in the NSA room.. YOU WOULD KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS>> THUS GIVING AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE TO THOSE IN THE ROOM>> OR ‘in the know’…..this is the one greatest violation of ALL our “inalienable rights” since the BILL OF RIGHTS was FIRST written. This is absolutely an attack on Americans in America by our Government.. and HONESTLY>> IF YOU STILL TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT TO TREAT US AS PATRIOTS NOT PRISONERS>> YOUR HORRIBLY MISTAKEN>> our government is working AGAINST US>> and OUR LEADERS WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE THE POPULATION OF THE US IN A TV induced calm.. so they can become more powerful and corrupt and disrupt the world to claim even more power for their political power hungry machines.

    BE AN AMERICAN AND STAND UP FOR YOUR BILL OF RIGHTS>> if you don’t expect to be completely hoodwinked and eventually enslaved.

    OH PLEASE LORD>> HELP US.. THIS ONE SCARES THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF ME AND ALL MY PATRIOTIC FRIENDS >> WE LOVE AMERICA>> but we do not love our rights being spit on like dirt.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THOSE THAT LOVE IT..
    GOD HELP US KEEP OUR RIGHT SACRED
    and those inside our borders FREE.. Free from espionage by our own “elected” government.

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