On S-CHIP families, some conservatives can’t help themselves

I noted earlier that, two weeks after much of the right went after the Frost family, another S-CHIP family stepped up to endorse the bipartisan compromise legislation recently vetoed by the president. Bethany Wilkerson, a two-year-old who was born with a heart defect, was able to get life-saving surgery thanks to her S-CHIP coverage. The good news, politically, is that Bethany’s family struggles enough financially to meet far-right standards. As her father said on a conference call yesterday, “We rent a house, we have one car that is a junker. Let them dig away. I have $67 in my checking account. Does that answer your question?”

A lot of us joked that the Wilkerson family might want to be cautious, because the Limbaughs and Malkins of the world have proven to be surprisingly vicious about the issue. That said, I didn’t seriously think the right would go after the Wilkersons. The smearing of the Frost family proved to be a ridiculous embarrassment for the right, and I kind of assumed conservatives wouldn’t be foolish enough to make the same mistake twice.

And yet, here’s National Review’s Mark Hemingway, going after the family anyway.

Combine that pressing economic need with Tampa Bay’s Most Photogenic and Heartbreakingly Unhealthy Baby and maybe this time congressional Democrats have found the right S-CHIP spokesfamily.

Except they haven’t. While the debate around the Frost family at least initially centered around their relative wealth, the issue really at hand is one of bad behavior. While USAction and a labyrinthine maze of leftist activist groups prepare to rally around images of Tampa Bay’s Most Photogenic Baby holding up a crayon sign that says “Don’t Veto Me,” Dara and Brian Wilkerson are real poster children — for irresponsible decisions.

Hemingway’s rationale is even more callous than you might expect.

Let’s take this one charge at a time.

On the conference call, Dara admitted to me that she and Brian had been talking about having children since before they were married.

Stunning. A dating couple mentioned the possibility of having children. The Wilkersons are obviously history’s greatest monsters.

She further admitted that after they were married she voluntarily left a job at a country club that had good health insurance, because the situation was “unmanageable.”

Hemingway left out a pertinent detail: Dara left that job seven years before Bethany was born. The implication in the National Review piece is that Dara should have stayed at her job in order to provide for her family. The reality shows otherwise. (And Hemingway’s decision to leave this fact out doesn’t reflect well on his argument.)

[T]he couple went on to have a baby anyway, presuming that others would pay for it and certainly long before they knew their daughter would have heart [sic] defect that probably cost the gross national product of Burkina Faso to fix.

This may come as a surprise, but couples frequently procreate. It’s shocking, I know, but all of those kids you see running around? They’re largely the result of couples having sex, and some of those couples don’t have health insurance. Should we limit parenthood to those who qualify for private insurance?

I think it’s rude to accept huge amounts of public assistance and then express gratitude by asking taxpayers to extend a Children’s health program to cover college-age kids who come from households making more than $80,000 a year.

If Hemingway’s been following this debate, he knows this claim is bogus. If he hasn’t been following this debate, he wrote a column without getting his facts straight.

Bethany Wilkerson is healthy. She is covered by existing programs and has already received the much [sic] of the medical care she needs. The current debate centers on expanding the program, not kicking the Frosts and the Wilkersons to the curb.

That’s patently false. Indeed, it’s part of the legislative rationale for expansion — as Sen. Chuck Grassley, a conservative Republican, has said, the administration’s proposal would be insufficient to maintain the current S-CHIP rolls. Some families, including possibly the Frosts and the Wilkersons, would once again be without coverage for their low-income kids. American families would most certainly be “kicked to the curb.”

So I hope Bethany grows up strong — I’m worried about her. Not because I’m worried that the state won’t take care of her, but I’m afraid that her parents will continue to set a bad example.

Stay classy, National Review. You just smeared another struggling family with bogus claims because they dared to speak up for a good policy.

I shouldn’t be surprised, but the fact that clowns like Hemingway are this shameless is breathtaking.

I had no idea my wife and I were such shameless sex addicts.

I suppose conservatives get married without a clue whether they have similar views about “family values”?

Or perhaps there’s never a disagreement thanks to Genesis 3:16.

  • Should we limit parenthood to those who qualify for private insurance?
    Bingo! The Conservative solution to all of our nation’s problems! No more poor kids that the government has to take care of. No more welfare moms. Illegal immigrants won’t be able to birth American citizens. Abortion will plummet. The nation’s poor will gradually disappear.

  • Awesome double-standard! People – ESPECIALLY poor people – shouldn’t have kids unless they know, in advance, that they’ll have the insurance necessary to take care of them all of their lives. And they should also be prepared for the possibility for their children having birth defects that would be make their insurance EVEN MORE costly, if they’re not dropped entirely…

    BUT, at the same time, if those people are NOT insured, or if they find out their child will have costly birth defects insurance companies will try not to cover or will force the company to drop the family, DON’T EVEN THINK about terminating that pregnancy! Because then they’re defying God’s will…to never be able to support their family.

    Have the baby! Get an extra job! Live in an awful town or city with a high-crime rate! Never be able to save money! Never be able to improve your lot in life! Don’t be around physically for that needy child because you’re always working for the health insurance benefits! Let the child never know its mom or dad! be a broken family! Die early from the stress of being poor! JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!!

    What is it about neoconservatives that makes them so stupid AND so cruel? Really, one or the other is bad enough.

  • considering that the national review doesn’t take in enough revenue to support itself and only publishes due to wingnut welfare, hemingway has way too much friggin nerve to opine about the financial status of anybody:

    NRO & You

    By Jack Fowler

    Friends, that huge sucking sound you’re hearing isn’t jobs going to Mexico but dollars going fast and furious into keeping National Review Online operating. We’ve gotten as far as we can with sweat equity, sleepless months, good wishes, warm feelings, and bartering services for a night with Jonah Goldberg. At the end of the day, we’ve got a lot of bills to pay. And now, we’ve got them at the beginning of the day too.

    Two years ago NRO was a very in-the-red operation. Fiscally speaking, of course, as we still detest Commies. Now, with about triple the staff that we had then, but without thrice the revenue of two years ago, we’re in-the-redder than ever. And in need of your help. Again.

  • So if having sex for recreation is bad. And sex for procreation is bad. And abortion is bad. As well as birth control is bad. And families are even worse. And parents who want their kids to grow up healty are akin to burning the flag. Then I can only “logically” assume that UnHemingway wants to live in a fantasy world like Barbarella’s universe where everything can be done without messes or complications or simply hates sex and everything connected to i.

    Or less stupidly figure that UnHemingway is bucking to win the Nobel Prize of Asshattery/Unlogic/Inane Hackery.

  • He knew exaxtly what he was doing…leaving out pertinent facts to support his position. Making it fit, so to speak, to reach his conclusions. He does it knowing that no one will bother to publicly call him on his errors of admission and his debunked made up facts. We all know the $80 family is a myth…it’s total bull and for him to use itr a s fact shows that he is willing to lie to make his point. Something is truly wrong with these people.

    He tries to make it seem like theres a group of “leftist” picket carrying screaming hippies walking around this “poster child” in support. He gets paid to do this crap journalism and thank god people see through this and aren’t so easily persuaded. If only there were an article right under his stating what you have said here CB. Their handlers refuse to allow others to call them out.

    Making assumptions like “bad influence” on the child’s parents just shows what a condemning ass or should I say prick(when defining gutter slime it’s hard to settle on the right word) this Hemingway shows himself to be. Wouldn’t you hate to be his kid.
    “What does your dad do” Nothing really, he gets paid to write attack pieces on poor families by the wealthy”. “So your dads a prick?” “Yeah. I wish he wasn’t my dad.”

  • I believe Dennis_D has the answer. No more babies for people who don’t have insurance. Round up the 20+ million uninsured women and forcibly implant them with IUDs until they can prove they have coverage.

    And having a baby without health insurance is bad, but launching a war without a plan is good.

  • S-CHIP is an American program for American people. The Screed Machine is at a loss to understand the common American way – help those who can’t help themselves, and then know American virtues are alive and well. Go back to your daily routine of making ends meet, and hope you can perservere enough to hold your own. Nothing more, nothing less. Screeders are rich, comfortable, and not in favor of helping others out, unless there is a government contract at stake. You see, their welfare comes in another form. In fact, the Iraq debacle is government welfare for our military-industrial complex – quite a death welfare, moneymaking with blood on your hands.

    I am tired of the destructive politics these people of the far right are so prone to engage. They have no decency, and so by asking the question about their level of decency is moot. Haters all of them! -Kevo

  • So let me get this straight:

    The party of “family values” … the party of “good Christian ideals” … the party that claims they have the “moral majority” … and the party that claims to stand up for “working families” … continues to go after families who needed medical care to save their children’s lives?!?!?

    Think about that for a second … this program saved these kids’ lives, and these people don’t give a damn if others don’t get help through it.

    If some kid dies because a state has to cut funding for S-CHIP?

    They don’t care. They are willing to risk the lives of innocent children based on nothing more than their political beliefs.

    All they care about is some mythical notion of government programs automatically being evil. Hell, it’s not even about being fiscally conservative (if it were, they would be against the Iraq war) nor about personal responsibility (if it were, they would blame Bush for his failures, rather than the “media” or whatever the bogeyman du jour is).

    What they just don’t get is this: These families couldn’t afford health insurance due to the “free market” pricing them and their employers out of the picture.

    That’s the cold reality they just won’t address — their love of free markets and no regulation has led to the embarrassment that is our health care system. It’s led to a situation where health care — even life savings surgeries — is a privilege, not a right.

    It makes me wonder what the holy hell happened in their lives to cause these people to have neither a heart nor a soul.

  • Clearly, Hemingway suffers from a deeply-ingrained fear of facts. Maybe he was viciously assaulted by the Sesame Street episode that taught children about telling the truth. Maybe his parents taught him to steal candy from the five-n-dime, and then how to lie convincingly about it. Maybe his first girlfriend laughed at the miniscule size of his wee-wee, and commented that “Mine’s bigger.” Maybe his first boyfriend laughed even harder, and said that “I don’t do women.”

    Hemingway is a factphobe….

  • My husband and I have two grown daughters. We knew when we decided to get married that we wanted a family, and we actually talked about when would be the best time to do that and whether we could afford to do it. No, there’s probably never a good time to do it – there’s always something going on – but I have to say that had we had no health insurance or could barely afford to keep ourselves afloat, we would have put off having kids until our circumstances were different. Yes, we wanted kids, wanted to be a family, but we had no sense of being entitled to do it no matter what our circumstances were. And I think there are a lot of families like ours – people trying to do all the right things for the right reasons.

    At the same time, you can make these decisions when all the pieces are in place, and can feel like candidates for a Norman Rockwell painting, and then it can all go to hell after the fact: someone can lose a job and not be able to afford the COBRA coverage, for example – something that isn’t foreseeable. And then what? You have kids who need health care, you have all the same bills to pay, and you are faced with difficult economic decisions. It happened to us, in fact, and it was a struggle and a worry and placed enormous stress on us. The COBRA payments were awful, but we were fortunate not to have any serious health problems. And, happily, our circumstances returned to normal, but at no time was it my kids’ fault that we were in that position. As parents, we saw it as our job and our responsibility not to have our kids suffer for things that were not in their control – and isn’t that where all these S-CHIP-eligibile kids are? And aren’t the Frosts and the Wilkersons rising to the occasion by availing themselves of a program the government says they are eligible for? Why is that a bad thing?

    Hemingway exemplifies the worst the right has to offer– he casts aspersions on the parents without bothering to get his facts right, which is bad enough, but the way he refers to the child is despicable; I wonder how he would feel to have his own child suffering from a devastating condition that was not her fault, and then have her snidely made fun of the way he has. It’s almost as if he thinks the Wilkersons should just have allowed her to die – oh, wait – they would have been drawn and quartered for doing that, I think, so what Hemingway ends up doing is just attacking both the child and her parents for sport. It’s almost like he’s trying to out-Malkin Malkin by throwing in some Ann Coulter-like sarcasm and acid.

    Don’t know how these people sleep at night, I really don’t.

  • She further admitted that after they were married she voluntarily left a job at a country club that had good health insurance, because the situation was “unmanageable.”

    She “admitted” under the steely gaze of the Inquisition, which saved her from the auto da fé but marked her forever as a sluggard and a layabout. Anyone else remember when the Right was decrying those greedy, irresponsible women who took jobs at the expense of staying home and properly raising their children?

    Mark Hemingway, et al, are reacting with such bile because health care is just the most visible way that that unfettered Capitalism is beginning to fail more and more Americans. It’s just not possible that anyone who works hard and plays by the rules should be failed so miserably by the Free Market. Therefore, those who demonstrably have been failed must be stupid, lazy, duplicitous, or all three.

  • I don’t think the needy family argument works. I’ve seen it played many times, and the vultures and wolves come out every time and pick the carcasses clean.

    Reagan perfected the attack on welfare and the poor. People are poor because they’re just no damn good – lazy louts making bad choices and not taking responsibility, trying to live off the hard earned dollars of decent, struggling, God fearing American folks. No matter how extreme the case, you can always make them look bad. The rich have perfected the art of setting the struggling masses against each other.

    The other thing I don’t like about it is that it conflates welfare and health insurance/health care. Universal health insurance is not a welfare program. It’s the right, and responsibility, of every American in a civilized society to attend to his health care needs through insurance. Most of us can afford to pay for it, if it is designed properly. That’s not welfare. It’s not asking for a hand out.

  • Should we limit parenthood to those who qualify for private insurance?

    Good question CB. The people (used loosely) that screamed so loud about China’s one child policy, seem to be advocating a no-child policy. Unless you belong to “The Party”, of course.

    It seems to me that the ReThugs are going to smear everything and everyone that aren’t ReThugs. In the rove/bush/cheney culture of “You’re either with us or you’re against us” anyone who is not in “The Party” is the enemy. So it really doesn’t matter if the legislation is good, bad or indifferent. Bipartisan or not. If it’s not offered up by “The Party” it’s subject to ridicule, smear or just plain being discarded.

    Much like the stated strategy of not letting any Dem bills get through.

  • Let’s not forget Hemingway is writing for the right-wing echo chamber. Each repetition of the lies, distortions, disinformation, and fabrications merely reinforces its truth in their little world. This is only a problem when no responsible journalist, few as they may be, dares take on the smear machine.

    Hemingway and his ilk gave up their humanity, and seemingly on humanity in general, a long time ago. Maybe it’s what they’re smoking. I’ve often wondered what makes people so twisted and full of rage. Stupid, cruel, inhuman, selfish, petty, mean-spirited, call them what you will it all fits.

    And let’s not also forget this is a Christian country. Actually Christian country.

  • it really does cause one’s jaw to drop the way that the Right is always, well, “right.”

    first we had the Frosts. they aren’t credible on the S-CHIP issue because they are too successful.

    then we have the Wilkerson’s. they aren’t credible on the S-CHIP issue because they are unsuccessful.

    Apparently the porridge needs to be juuuuuuust right. And the Goldilocks’ of the Right have very narrow tastes.

  • So this couple didn’t have health insurance and got pregnant.

    We all know wingnuts hate planned parenthood. We also know that contraception and family planning services financed in part by any tax $ is a big no no. So the couple apparently did the right thing and avoided this whole bugaboo.

    We all know wingnuts hate abortion. This couple did not do this either. Score another for the wingnuts.

    Wingnuts, we also know, show big hate for the S-CHIP.

    You can’t, use the family planning, you can’t abort and using S-CHIP pisses them off. So here in lies the rub. What’s the couple to do? Abort or S-CHIP either choice and you cross the wingnutosphere.

    Wingnuts also hate welfare, except of course when it is wingnut welfare like say NRO. I guess its better that this guy write columns than panhandle in the streets.

  • It is truly amazing. And they have no shame. But I think that is the crux of their argument: only if one has total knowledge can one make good decisions. Since the decisions of the Malkins and the Hemingways have resulted in good outcomes, they thus clearly have total knowledge. The chance events of life cannot enter into the equation, because it would take responsibility off of the parents. Therefore, when you are Jesse and Michelle, you have total knowledge, and thus can lecture others who lack such insight, because nothing they have ever done has led to a negative outcome.

  • We certainly have peculiar priorities in this country, and a bad case of double standards. When some poor family does the unthinkable and has children our let-the-eat-cake conservatives tisk-tisk that everyone should pull their own weight and leave the American taxpayer alone. But when some leftist Latin American government threatens to nationalize the plantations of banana-growing American billionaires, or some tin-pot Arab potentate reneges on an Exxon oil consignment, then our blood-and-treasure-are-no-object conservatives are the first to shout: “Send in the Marines!”

  • You guys keep debunking the neo-compassionates of faux democracy like Mark Hemingway. I’m gonna go breed a dozen more liberals. Soon we’ll permanently outvote all of these bighearted family haters.

    After all, they’ve only been able to sustain so long by disenfranchising voters while replicating via the right combination of Thunderbird, roofies and Viagra.

  • ***there is a special place in hell for people like hemingway.***

    Actually, bill, there isn’t. It’s still in the planning stage. Every time they get the design specifications just right, up pops another crop of knuckledragger tribe spawn. At the rate things are going, Hell is going to have a bigger population control problem than China!

    Maybe Hell could borrow some of those “quality FEMA houses” parked in LooZeeAhnnAh….

  • I’m confused. Are the Wilkersons white?

    If so, aren’t they supposed to have as many children as possible, to save us from the overactive breeding habits of the brown folks?

    Seems to me the Wilkersons were just doing their duty.

  • Steve H, @28

    Not only are the Wilkersons white, Bethany is a *blonde cutie*; even the Nazis would have loved her.

    And regarding the unpardonable sin of pre-marriage discussions about having children… Such discussions should be mandatory, because making assumptions is one of the roads to a marriage dissolution.

    “Are you up for having more children?” was one of the first questions I asked my now-husband when we were courting. He already had 3, from the first marriage, so it was a valid question. I, OTOH, had not been married before, had no children, but wanted them badly; I was not about to marry a guy who might have had enough of diapers, much as I loved him.

    At the other end of the spectrum, I know someone (a Repub, actually ), who never wanted any children (“I don’t like having to take care of people”) and who assumed her husband wouldn’t want any, either (“men aren’t supposed to be into babies”). And who was outraged when he left her for another woman and immediately started a family (“I was happy as we were; what was he lacking?”). A lot of grief — on both sides, since she took him to the cleaners for alimony, leaving him with less to support the new family — would have been avoided if the two *had* discussed their attitudes towards having — or not having — children.

  • Haven’t we had eough? The Creator forbid that a family might get a few extra bucks they don’t “deserve” while W sends trillions into the black hole of Iraq. It costs more to send him on one trip to Australia than to finance S-chip for 5 years. Let’s get with it and get real. Stop the selfishness of the Republican P arty (Barry Golwater would be a flaming liberal in this day and age) and start to think of the common good. Rugged individualism as a concept has been used to keep us from forming a free and just society for entirely too long. There are privat companies in Iraq that cannot account for where the cash payment (’cause that’s the only way to do ’em in Iraq) are going it. We, the people, are being bamboozled, and it is not by S-Chip. Let’s just take the 35 million form the Iraq budget and spend it on the kids. (Wasn’t there someone named Jesus who once lived in Nazereth who would have liked that idea?)

  • IMO people should not be selfish by thinking I want a family… so weather i could afford it or not is an after thought.
    By being selfish and having a kid without being able to afford it is not only hurting/abusing our system.. it is also a selfish act upon the kid itself.

    Plus if you are so desperate to have a family adopting unwanted kids or becoming a guardian might be a better option than creating another unsupported kid.


  • fuzzc: Plus if you are so desperate to have a family adopting unwanted kids or becoming a guardian might be a better option than creating another unsupported kid.

    Sounds like someone’s on a slippery slope leading to government mandated abortions (and gay marriage) for all!

  • I come from a mid-west, white bread, wing-nut family (I’m the black sheep liberal, that escaped) – most of my sisters, their daughters and their daughter’s babies have either had the state pay for their pre-natal care and delivery or they are on WIC and some form of welfare. Maybe not all the time, but at some time, because none of them has ever bothered to get an education. Yet they are the first to scream about illegal aliens and taxes…these Republicans are bat-shit crazy! A large majority of the Bush voters are the same people who’s children need this coverage…I don’t think they realize that when he’s saying “No” he means… “No” to them…

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  • They’d better think this through carefully. If only the rich may have children, and everyone else has to take a vow of celibacy, where will they get cannon fodder for Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc. etc. etc. ?

  • Hmmm. There seems to be some hypocrisy here. I can’t have kids if I don’t have insurance but I can’t have an abortion if I get pregnant, and lest I not forget, I shouldn’t be using birth control either? Ohhh, right, I’m a woman so I shouldn’t be having sex at all whether I’m married or single. I get it now. So silly of me.

    What would I do if I didn’t have the Repubs looking out for my best interests and telling me what to do?

  • Some Objectivist/Libertarians have been accused of being rationalizer-apologists for sociopathic freedoms. And maybe these Dips are similar. They don’t like “Heartbreakingly Unhealthy Baby” poster children who tug at heart strings because they are inherently incapable of understanding such things. I understand the concept of “limits on government bureaucracy ” and “inefficient socialized medicine”, but there’s something seriously wrong when these Limbaugh-Malkin type people get rich acting the way they do.

  • Kimber,
    I can relate. My brother is the kind of guy who has an average I.Q. but tons of natural charisma and charm. Back in college he turned con-fundie. Twenty years later he routinely displays his acquired wealth and advertises that all his success has been a direct result of his Christian faith. But I’d always kept quiet about the truth: his boss is his best friend from college, his friend’s boss is a close friend of that family, and he’s capable of telling anybody everything they want to hear regardless of the truth. While discussing with my “born-again” sister the problems she and her husband and my wife and I were having with “the system” in our professional lives, I mentioned bro’s “patronage chain” method of advancement. Word got back to him and ever since, I’ve been persona non grata for his family. To this day he refuses to discuss anything and he calls me “the loony liberal” behind my back. My sister’s been turned against me. We’re allowed to attend major family functions like Easter and Christmas, but I sense the invitations will vaporize after my parents pass away.

    More proof that conservative fundamentalism is a refuge for the hypocrite?

  • Jennifer said:
    Hmmm. There seems to be some hypocrisy here. I can’t have kids if I don’t have insurance but I can’t have an abortion if I get pregnant, and lest I not forget, I shouldn’t be using birth control either? Ohhh, right, I’m a woman so I shouldn’t be having sex at all whether I’m married or single. I get it now. So silly of me.

    What would I do if I didn’t have the Repubs looking out for my best interests and telling me what to do?

    You’re forgetting… poor people + sex = more poor people = maintaining pool of cheap labor supply. Hence the “abstinence only education,” opposition to birth control, etc., all disguised under the cloak of christian morality.

    And also, I might be getting a little ahead of myself here, but applying this to the big picture: note poor people using birth control, better education, and INSURANCE to help them out of any bad breaks related to their children’s health = more competition for little George W. when he applies to Yale. Therefore, it should be tough to climb above your humble working class roots. It shouldn’t be the norm, although it’s fine if it’s the “American Dream.” Keep dreaming.

    You see the double-think present in the “abstinence only” programs. When people say it doesn’t work and teen pregnancies are on the rise, it actually DOES work.

  • Ah, for the days of laissez faire. Unemployment was the whip that kept the poor down, and poor relief was the balm that kept them from revolting. Before 1933, few Americans received pensions of any kind — public or private. Private charity was the only recourse in the run-up to the Great Depression. National Income was cut in half from 29 to 33. Unemployment rose to 25% of the labor force. Local government was forced to help, primarily by feeding the poor. They issued bonds and themselves fell hopelessly in debt. They laid off one-third or more of their employees. Many were bankrupt. They paid in script or forced loans. My father was an asst professor at a state university, and he was paid all or part in script for 18 months. We took charity when we could get it to pay the rent. My grandparents had a little farm and sent big bags of middlings (grey stuff after the best white flour) and pecans and 50 pound cans of lard. We feasted on nut bread. The janitor gave us his little 13 yr sister if we would feed her. Hoover lent corporations hundreds of millions of dollars, but nothing for the poor. People actually starved in the streets. For years kids would break into our kitchen on an alley and steal food off the stove. Took the pots too. No bad words were ever said in our house about FDR.

  • In March 1933, when FDR was sworn in, every bank in America was closed, most of them insolvent. It had been the worst winter in history for Americans. At the worst after Federal Emergency Relief came in the summer 20 % of the population was on relief. Before, most had nothing of their own to eat and had to beg or go to charity soup kitchens. They built Hoovervills out of cardboard and scrap in Central Park. Many houses were in foreclosure. Ask some very old Republicans how they got through the 1930’s. Things were so bad that even Republicans were homeless, and some, too proud to accept charity or relief, starved to death. God bless them.

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