Oversight over the White House

Forgive the redundancy after having just mentioned this, but it’s worth paying special attention to the new White House talking point.

Tony Snow on ABC: “The executive branch is under no compulsion to testify to Congress, because Congress in fact doesn’t have oversight ability.”

Snow on CBS: “The legislative branch has no oversight responsibility over the White House.”

Snow during press briefing: “[T]he Congress does have legitimate oversight responsibility for the Department of Justice. It created the Department of Justice. It does not have constitutional oversight responsibility over the White House, which is why by our reaching out, we’re doing something that we’re not compelled to do by the Constitution, but we think common sense suggests that we ought to get the whole story out, which is what we’re doing.”

Look, I know these guys are into all kinds of strange ideas about a unitary executive, but this is ridiculous. If the legislative branch doesn’t have oversight responsibilities over the White House, does Snow think the White House has to answer to anyone?

I was struck by Snow’s notion that Congress “created the Department of Justice.” Historically, that’s true; the legislative branch was responsible for establishing cabinet agencies, which lawmakers then fund and oversee, even though the agencies are part of the executive branch.

I won’t get into a lengthy, turgid poli sci thesis here, but this new argument seems to be that the legislative branch may pay the White House’s bills, but that doesn’t mean it can serve as a check on the White House’s power. If that’s literally the best the Bush gang can come up with, they’re in trouble.

Alex, in the last thread, pointed to this helpful report (.pdf) from the Congressional Oversight Manual.

The Constitution grants Congress extensive authority to oversee and investigate executive branch activities. The constitutional authority for Congress to conduct oversight stems from such explicit and implicit provisions as:

1. The power of the purse. The Constitution provides that “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.” Each year the Committees on Appropriations of the House and Senate review the financial practices and needs of federal agencies. The appropriations process allows the Congress to exercise extensive control over the activities of executive agencies. Congress can define the precise purposes for which money may be spent, adjust funding levels, and prohibit expenditures for certain purposes.

2. The power to organize the executive branch. Congress has the authority to create, abolish, reorganize, and fund federal departments and agencies. It has the authority to assign or reassign functions to departments and agencies, and grant new forms of authority and staff to administrators. Congress, in short, exercises ultimate authority over executive branch organization and generally over policy.

3. The power to make all laws for “carrying into Execution” Congress’s own enumerated powers as well as those of the executive. Article I grants Congress a wide range of powers, such as the power to tax and coin money; regulate foreign and interstate commerce; declare war; provide for the creation and maintenance of armed forces; and establish post offices. Augmenting these specific powers is the so-called “Elastic Clause,” which gives Congress the authority “To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.” Clearly, these provisions grant broad authority to regulate and oversee departmental activities established by law.

4. The power to confirm officers of the United States. The confirmation process not only involves the determination of a nominee’s suitability for an executive (or judicial) position, but also provides an opportunity to examine the current policies and programs of an agency along with those policies and programs that the nominee intends to pursue.

5. The power of investigation and inquiry. A traditional method of exercising the oversight function, an implied power, is through investigations and inquiries into executive branch operations. Legislators often seek to know how effectively and efficiently programs are working, how well agency officials are responding to legislative directives, and how the public perceives the programs. The investigatory method helps to ensure a more responsible bureaucracy, while supplying Congress with information needed to formulate new legislation.

6. Impeachment and removal. Impeachment provides Congress with a powerful, ultimate oversight tool to investigate alleged executive and judicial misbehavior, and to eliminate such misbehavior through the convictions and removal from office of the offending individuals.

Keep in mind, based on Snow’s comments today, this isn’t the executive privilege argument, this is the executive privilege argument on crack. The principle of executive privilege, while fluid, addresses a president’s need for candor from advisors. As the president said the other day, “[I]f the staff of a President operated in constant fear of being hauled before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the President would not receive candid advice, and the American people would be ill-served.”

But today’s argument goes much further and suggests Congress lacks the authority to ask the White House questions at all. And given the frequency with which Snow used the argument today, we can expect to hear quite a bit more about this in the coming days.

I have a hunch this is going to get ugly.

I’ve got new stuff on my blog here and here for any body who hasn’t
seen it yet.

  • Well, it is spring now. I suppose that’s why we’re seeing The Snow melt. His days are numbered.

  • Combine this with Abu Gonzales’ “There is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution” and where are we?

  • It’s funny I heard Snow’s quote, and as outrageous as I knew it was, I had to second -guess myself for a second. “Waitasec…power of the purse…confimation… He’s nuts. Right? Is it the word ‘over?'”

    I’ve shaken it off. they’re fucking crazy. But they are so bold with thhis crap, and this country is so goddamn stupid it might work for a while.

  • At last they admit to believing what we’ve always thought they believed:

    That George W. Bush is king and supreme ruler of the country.

    That no one can change or even question what he does, for any reason.

    Ooooh, are they going to be in a world of hurt when they find out how mad this is going to make all the sane and lawful people in this country.

  • It hardly needs saying that the flip side of the above argument is, ““[I]f the staff of a President operated in complete immunity from any sort of accountability for their actions or advice to the President, they would feel no compulsion to tell the truth, the President would not receive accurate information or sound advice, and the American people would be ill-served.”

    This presupposes, of course, that the president is himself not a liar or a crook, and that it is all the fault of the staff rather than orchestral maneuvers in the dark on the part of the nation’s highest office.

  • I’ve got new stuff on my blog here and here for any body who hasn’t
    seen it yet.
    Comment by Swan

    Got anything about blogwhoring over there? That’s always interested me.

    Bushies think the world is 6000 years old and the constitution is only 6 years old. They started a war so Junior could be a war president and he wouldn’t have to deal with all this democratic stuff.

  • This is a great gut check for the Congressional Dems, however. The terms of the fight as Snow has laid them out are simple: “Congress, you cannot micromanage us. You have only two tools to use – the power of the purse and impeachement. So you can defund the White House, you can impeach the occupants, or you can sit down and shut up while we rape, pillage and plunder all we like.”

    Put like that, impeachment sounds much, much more attractive (although defunding might me a hoot, too).

  • I think Congress should just freeze the salaries of any WH employee who refuses to testify publicly and under oath.

  • You know what? “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier”.

    I guess that’s his new “offer”. I guess he’s hoping Congress will meet him in the middle somewhere?

    Seriously, WTF is wrong with this guy? It’s like he’s actually crazy and he thinks God wants him to do stuff, so to hell with the rules of Men. It’s like he’s expecting something to happen that will take all our minds off the fact that he’s been wiping his ass with the constitution.

    Like maybe a war with Iran?

    Impeach. NOW.

  • FEDERALIST No. 48
    These Departments Should Not Be So Far Separated as to Have No Constitutional Control Over Each Other

    IT WAS shown in the last paper that the political apothegm there examined does not require that the legislative, executive, and judiciary departments should be wholly unconnected with each other. I shall undertake, in the next place, to show that unless these departments be so far connected and blended as to give to each a constitutional control over the others, the degree of separation which the maxim requires, as essential to a free government, can never in practice be duly maintained.

  • I also think that privilege cannot be asserted against advice and conversations about illegal or unethical acts.

  • Congress has the ultimate oversight. If the Executive Branch strays too far from the will of the people and this at the same time this constitutes straying from the principles of the Constitution, the Congress has the power to impeach. The Dems should issue the subpoenas, and let the president defy them, in violation of Supreme Court precedent (which, I think, is the supreme law of the land to which the President, Rove, Cheney and Abu have sworn to uphold). Then the Dems should draft the articles of impeachment for all these folks, including all of the other potential charges against them.

    But another significant power, as noted in comments above, is the power to cut back funding for the White House and eliminate positions in the White House. Eliminate over half of those positions, and cut the pay for a large portion of the remainder. Also eliminate or cut the pay of all the crazy folks whom the white house has placed in various regulatory positions.

  • Yes, but what about our fourth branch of government, the Office of the Vice President, newly discovered and designated by Richard Bruce Cheney?

  • Some good comments above.

    I’m thinking about Curmudgeon’s (# 7) point. The one about “sane and lawful” people. I think he’s right. Some individuals and groups, on the right and the left, have more impact than others. I wonder how many Hannity foamers actually have any effect beyond their wailing to each other. In other words, they don’t convince the left or the center to do squat.

    There really is — and always has been — a Silent Majority, and it isn’t all fools. My sense of the current political situation is that the administration’s evil ju-ju isn’t working. Imply that dissenters hate America, are Satan worshippers, and look funny — and it makes no difference. Eyes roll. The administration hacks are beginning to look to the mainstream like we’ve seen them all along.

    I think we’re beginning the “Embarrassment Period” and will soon enter the “Mad as Hell Period” before arriving at the “Impeach, Lynch, or Burn at the Stake Dilemma.”

    Now, I confess that I’ve espoused this notion before, and I seemed to have predicted wrongly. But I’m not sure I was wrong. Maybe the development of wide-spread outrage just takes a hell of a lot longer than I thought.

  • I think this is fantastic news. It is indicitive of a meltdown even.

    The Bush regime, as we all know but not necessarily all Americans know, subscribes to a radical theory of its own unchecked and unlimited power. They know very well just how Unamerican this theory is, but they cannot help themselves, so as much as they exercise and try to expand their power under their radical theory, they also try to hide it from the public. Hense, for example, why they would rather withdraw court cases involving dangerous terrorists and risk letting them go free rather than have court rule against them. Hense why, when the reports of pervasive torture in our military prisons started bubbling up, they denounced the torture and tried pinning the blame on “a few bad apples” even when they fought hard to legalize it. The list goes on and on.

    But with this, finally a public admission of their truely Unamerican beliefs, the public will be able to finally see for themselves and understand just how radical and Unamerican they really are.

  • “seem to have…”

    I think I’ve mentioned that I have an authentic Dick Cheney Autograph Model implanted pacemaker/defibrillator. Sometimes Dick “breaks in” and makes me make typos. Well, more than sometimes. But that’s his evil nature.

    Crotchface bastard!

  • Rian’s comment reminds me of a quote …

    The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. … We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. … How does one man assert his power over another … By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough.

    Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is inflicting pain and humiliation. … A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. …

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face–forever.

    Ladies and gentlemen, your Republican party, as described by George Orwell.

    **shudders**

  • How does Sampson and Miers taking marching orders from Karl Rove constitute the need for advisors needed the confidence of privacy in giving their advice to the President? One is giving advice, the other is carrying out policy – two separate animals, No?

  • Governments exist to support the rights of men. Governments exist only through the power of the people that they represent. When a government fails to grant rights to the people and removes the involvement of the people, the people have the right to change their government in a way that will allow for their unalienable rights to be protected. Governments should not be overthrown for trivial reasons; it is not typical for people to change a system that they are accustomed to. However, when the people have suffered many abuses under the control of a totalitarian leader, they not only have the right but the duty to overthrow that government.

    SOUND FAMILIAR? NO? Time to re read the Declaration and the Constitution, huh? Coup d’etat anyone?

  • “If the legislative branch doesn’t have oversight responsibilities over the White House, does Snow think the White House has to answer to anyone?”

    no.

  • I’m with Alibubba: I think most Americans have no great interest in politics, don’t really follow it, and are happy enough to ignore it most of the time. I suspect that these people are happy to subscribe to conventional wisdom (whatever that happens to be) and to hold prepackaged and predigested “truths”, rather than working up their own conclusions. For the last couple of decades this has been the Republican line as hatched by Newt Gingerich and the fundamentalist right and as propounded by Rush Limbaugh. This is comfortable because it fits with convenient beliefs and easy stereotypes. However, I’m hopeful that Bush may be managing to make the uninvolved majority change its core stereotypes, at minimum switching away from the “Republicans good” part of “Republicans good, Democrats bad”.

  • From Murray Waas’s 3/16/07 Nation Journal story, “Internal Affairs”:

    “…Over time, however, he [James Goldmsith] became “the central figure in a secret but intense rebellion of a small coterie of Bush administration lawyers” against the White House’s legal claims that the president should have “virtually unlimited powers in the war in terror.”

    White hats in the Bush administration. Who knew?

  • Combine this with Abu Gonzales’ “There is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution” and where are we?

    Comment by kvenlander — 3/22/2007 @ 4:06 pm

    Up a waterboard tank without a paddle.

    I agree with justbill. If BushCo (TM) takes its U Can’t Touch This approach to the “logical” conclusion, things will get very ugly in a pass the popcorn, guns and helmets sort of way.

    I wish someone had asked Snowblower the next question: If Congress doesn’t have oversight powers, who can rein in the Reign of King George Ill? Though, he’d probably have said God or Laura and Barney, so perhaps it’s just as well.

  • Whatever happened to checks and balances? Did Snowjob miss 10th grade Civics? Shit, my eight-year-old knows about checks and balances. And she knows they’re disappearing quickly.

  • Abolish or reorganize the entire Justice Department if Congress has that power. Senate and House have to approve future appointments. Non-partisan appointments only, based upon background checks.

  • You have to wonder how such specious arguments are even suggested by the administration, and hope nobody is actually naive enough to fall for them.

    To make an analogy, the executive branch is much like the executive staff of a publicly held company, only so long as citizens and their representatives in congress are the share holders, the ultimate owners of the government. To put in bluntly, the executive is the hired help, the management consultants. They may be reigned in, redirected, or fired for malfeasance at any time, and it is Congressional responsibility to provide that oversight..

    Direct election of the administration is only the ‘hiring’ process. The process of oversight and ‘firing’ is not directly voted by the people, that role rests specifically with Congress, by design of the constitution.

    That principle is central to our democracy and in direct response to the excesses of power of kings, dictators, and charismatic leaders.

    Is there anyone in America who doesn’t understand that? Really? Are these people readers? Students of history and government?

    Have parts of our culture become so complacent they’d prefer a king to democracy, because democracy is ponderous and hard work? How foolish is that?

    Tocqueville was right, not only about American democracy but also human nature. Complacency is the worst enemy of prosperity.

  • Abolish or reorganize the entire Justice Department if Congress has that power. Senate and House have to approve future appointments. Non-partisan appointments only, based upon background checks.
    Comment by badgervan

    I agree. Fire all the prosecutors that are left and rehire the ones who were purged. That’s a good start.

  • Well, it is spring now. I suppose that’s why we’re seeing The Snow melt. His days are numbered.
    Comment by doubtful —

    🙂 Global warming can melt all that Snow it wants to.

  • I agree. Fire all the prosecutors that are left and rehire the ones who were purged. That’s a good start.

    [Dale]

    Nah, that’s too easy. Make them sweat through the Bar and high school civics again. They pass, they’re in. They fail. Bye bye. If they don’t like it, they can take it up with the BushBrat.

    I’d make an exception for Rove’s buddy who replaced Bud Cummins he can GTFO yesterday. Preferably propelled in such a manner that he does serious damage to Sharon Wacky Tabbacy Eubanks when he lands on her.

  • In 1776 it was “No taxation without representation” as a revolutionary battle cry.

    Let’s update it to “No funding without oversight”

  • To paraphrase the words of Sandy the Squirrel, from Spongbob, referring to Mr. Snowjob’s understanding of the Beauty of it All that is our system of government: You were WRONG! You were WRONG, You were WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

    Our only firewall is the SCOTUS. God help us all.

  • RE: Contempt of Congress, has it been determined that the AG would enforce the subeonas or Sergeant at Arms? I’ve heard both angles and both seem logical.

  • The constitution was written for a democracy not for dictator ship. Let the Constitution reign and let congress impeach Bush and Cheny’s new department.

    God doesn’t kill still and destroy. The Devil, God of this world, does.

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