Pass the horseburger — sweet, delicious horseburger

Guest Post by Morbo

I don’t really want to eat a horseburger. Truly, I don’t. I’ll also pass on horse steak, horse barbeque and deep-fried horse nuggets.

But at the same time, I’m not losing any sleep over the people in Europe and Japan who do want to eat horseburgers — and I can only wonder why the Republican Congress is determined to stop them.

You would think with all that is going on — the war in Iraq, North Korea’s nukes, the Foley scandal, the ongoing problems with Social Security, immigration, global warming — the Republican majority would have more to worry about than people eating horseburgers.

You would be wrong. One of the first things the House did after the summer recess was a pass a bill outlawing the transportation and sale of horses for human consumption. There are three firms in the United States that currently engage in this business. This legislation would probably shut them down. The bill is pending in the Senate, where it faces an uncertain future. There’s a big push to get it passed before the current session ends.

How did this come about? Why is a Congress that by all rights ought to be eager to shed its reputation as “do nothing” wasting time on this?

Blame it on Bo Derek. Yes, that Bo Derek.

The former sexpot actress is now retired from the silver screen. She’s a Republican and Bush supporter and also owns a horse ranch. Since Bo Derek was once famous, she has been able to take Congress by storm and move what would otherwise be a marginal issue to the top of the agenda.

As The Washington Post reported:

Known primarily for playing scantily clad characters in the decades-old movies “10” and “Tarzan, the Ape Man,” Derek is wearing more concealing clothes today — a black business suit, white top and heels. A pro-Bush Republican, she is aware that as a national sex symbol she receives special treatment. Even enemies of the bill want their pictures taken with her. With long blond hair and blue eyes, she is still, after all these years, attention-getting.

So the allegedly pro-business GOP House is so dazzled by a has-been actress that it is willing to pass a law demanding an end to an entire industry? A bill that will have the effect of eliminating several hundred jobs? I thought these guys were supposed to be pro-business and pro-jobs? What a bunch of hypocrites.

As the Carpetbagger has pointed out several times, conservatives love to portray the Democrats as captives of out-of-touch Hollywood celebrities. These days it seems the GOP is the political unit that can’t quit star gazing long enough to get things done.

I know, a lot of people like horses — and consumption of equine critters is not part of our national culture. But this bill is feel-good nonsense. Sure, it would have the effect of banning horse slaughter for human consumption. But it would do nothing to prevent you from selling an old horse to the glue factory or simply taking it out back and giving it a couple of shotgun blasts.

More than anything, this little incident should be evidence to the American people that the Republican-led Congress can’t get its priorities straight. Let’s look at just one example: According to the Social Security Administration, benefits will have to be reduced by 26 percent by the year 2040 and cut every year after that unless action is taken now to shore up Social Security. This concerns me, yet nothing seems to be done. I wish Congress would quit horsing around and address it.

Btw, when there was a brief flurry of interest in horsemeat in Amercia — long time watchers of ALL IN THE FAMILY may remember that they did a show on it — I was living in Philly. Horsemeat wasn’t available there, but was available in a NJ store just across the border, and I bought it several times. Some cuts — particularly chuck — were so tough as to be inedible, but the hamburgers and round steaks were slightly tastier than beef (and I am so much a beef lover I could be English).

Sadly, a group of ‘animal lovers’ picketed the store out of business.

  • Get your facts straight. This bill has been in the works for years and is not the result of lawmakers fascination with Bo Derek. The Humane Society of the United States has worked tirelessly for the adoption of this sensible measure to ban a senseless practice. The horse racing industry has also been a strong advocate. It’s being passed because it can be done easily with bi-partisan support. While it’s certainly not one of the most pressing issues facing the nation, using it as another example with which to bash the Republican Congress seems a little petty.

  • As a vegetarian I don’t advocate eating any kind of meat, but there is definitely a hypocrisy about which animals are pets and which are food. Americans feed their pets enough to eliminate world hunger. And yet the pet consumption problem can be solved easily by, well, pet consumption. Catburgers. Dogburgers. There goes world hunger.

    “That’d have to be one charming mutherfucking pig.” Jules

  • And yet the pet consumption problem can be solved easily by, well, pet consumption. Catburgers. Dogburgers.

    Nice of you to do your part to make the world members of the other PETA.*

    A pro-Bush Republican

    Nice of Bo to do her part to perpetuate the brain-dead blonde stereotype.

    Even if the world were perfect I’d still roll my eyes at any one who wasted time on this issue.
    OK, if you’re a vegan, fine. That makes sense. Otherwise shaddup.
    I like horses too but why are horses on the don’t eat list, but not cows? Why is it OK to rape the rainforests so more cows can fart up the atmosphere so we can eat them, but people have kittens (not to eat of course) when some one tucks into a horse mignon? Why does the horse racing industry care? They probably do more far more harm to horses while they’re alive and I doubt they give the horsies a nice burial when they die. And what about bunnies? Or even humans? (Not to eat, but to worry about.) Get a grip, a clue, a fucking life.

    Oh wait, I’m not being cynical enough. Any one want to bet the boys in the zillion dollar Bovine Industry saw this as a chance to remove some competition and pressured their pet legislator?

    tAiO

    *People Eating Tasty Animals

  • “and I can only wonder why the Republican Congress is determined to stop them.” – Morbo

    When we ramp up to go on a true “war footing” and implement the draft, there’s going to have to be something to put in the MRE’s so the aristocrisy doesn’t have to resort to rationing beef or pork.

    The spirit of the horse will spur the soldiers on to greater heights of valor.

  • #2 is right and for the first time since I have been coming here, Morbo is suffering from Cranial-Rectal Adhesion Syndrome (he has his head stuck in his ass) – I guess everyone gets an Off Day, so I’ll credit it to that.

    I once destroyed a fairly-lucrative movie deal with a certain Japanese producer when he invited us to his home here, and then served whale meat. I told him I didn’t do business with barbarians. Sorry, I will “pass judgement” on the morality of food. It’s one reason why I look at the Chinese as slightly less-civilized gastronomically than I do the Japanese since if it moves they’ll eat it – dogs, cats, whatever, they prove what happens with 100 generations of human overpopulation. And any European I met who was eating horse would be in the same category.

  • I think Americans, mostly, are properly shocked by eating horse (or whale or cats or dogs). Here‘s a horsemeat market right in the middle of Venezia’s beautiful rialto. It always gets a camera click from Americans; I wasn’t even tempted to go in. For us avoiding such meats is simply evidence of compliance with our local customs. My guess is that if I had grown up in a culture which esteemed such foods I’d think differently. That’s what bothers me about such “matters of taste” becoming “moral matters”: they’re not far removed from our long ago past, with its intertribal hostilities. You know, the sort of things which, like religion, leads to so much unnecessary human pain and bloodshed.

  • #6 Cleaver, you don’t even know how fucking bigoted you are. Too much model airplane glue up your nose, bud. You have a lot of off days, so I’ll credit it to that.

  • Much as I would love to blame this on the Republicans, it’s everybody’s fault. I mean, how many Dems voted for this thing? The Republicans actually tried to stop this on a number of occasions, say, every year but this year. They also successfully destroyed an approps amendment that would have stopped the practice.

    The Humane Society is the main group behind this. Personally, I think it’s ridiculous. I’m not a small gov’t type, but I think this is a pretty broad overreach. The gov’t should have ensured that slaughter was humane, not banned it.

    Ridiculous.

  • Nice of you to do your part to make the world members of the other PETA.*

    Hey if you died in a houseful of your cats, they’d eat you. 🙂

  • I have an even better idea, lets rename “French Fries” to “Freedom Fries”! That will show America how serious Congress is with solving pressing problems!

  • Of course Tom would never made the mistake of serving beef to a Hindu. In fact he doesn’t eat beef at all because that would make him a barbarian to some other chap. Ditto pork, shellfish, hard booze… I don’t know all of the prohibitions on food that people practice around the world but Tom the Non-Barbarian follows them all to the letter. How he is able to stay on his high (and tasty) horse without fainting from hunger is a mystery.

    Dale, I live with three cats. I am painfully aware that I am only a slip and a fall away from making them members of PETH.

    Pass the steak sauce.

  • Hmmm. None of us would be alive if our ancestors had not survived on any meat they had available including half rotted corpses they stole from the mega predators.

    And if you search through some of the “industrial” products you have consumed within the past year, I would not be surprised if some horses processed in a rendering plant downwind of your noses were not part of the input stream.

    Amazingly, we can tolerate horses being being exploited for the elite’s mint julep, shit faced celebrations at the race track but not as part of the food chain?

    We consumers are so separated from the real world that few of us ever consider the source of any flesh we eat. When the gene jockeys start putting chlorophyll into human cells we might become perfectly “green”.

  • This bill is a perfect example of legislative stupidity. It attacks the symptom, while doing nothing to solve the root problem: unwanted horses. In fact, by eliminating an outlet for unwanted horses, it may only serve to exacerbate the problem. Many horses that would otherwise end up being sold to slaughter will now end up starving to death. I am a horse-owner and don’t want to see any horse slaughtered. But, I understand where the real problem lies and this bill does absolutely nothing to address it. I would also note that several large horse industry organizations such as the American Quarter Horse Association, the American Association of Equine Practitioners, and Western Horseman magazine all have come out publicly against this bill.

  • Would I be able to turn down Bo Derek if she asked for just one teensy favor? Would you? See, this is why we need more gay legislators.

  • As a bike racer who goes way back, I remember hearing that horsemeat was mentioned as the reason the Euro riders were so fast. I guess the thinking was you are as fast as what you eat. I’m sure the tradition started with a farmer’s efficiency to not waste anything that lived on his land, though.

    Horsemeat has a lot of “eeewwww” factor for most people, but I won’t begrudge anyone who eats it. Culinary preference has a lot to do with culture and culture always evolves. Lobster is now considered a food for the wealthy when once it was what was fed to slaves because what upstanding white person would eat an “insect of the sea?”

    Modern French cooking, to many the paragon of culinary traditions, was shaped by the French Revolution when people were starving and a good sauce would make anything taste edible, including the wild critters from the Paris zoo.

    Most Americans are revolted by organ meats (brains, liver, kidney, intestine, stomach lining, etc.), whereas in other cultures they are the delicacies and preferred to the flesh. Heck, there are even couples who have just given birth that I’ve heard will even eat the placenta. Talk about a fear factor diet!

    It’s all about perspective. People will eat human flesh if hungry enough, and what a luxury it is I suppose to have the ability to be able to chose one’s food rather than having to starve. If lettuce bled red after getting it’s head cut off or if corn screamed after somone pulled off its ears, maybe people would object to those being sources of food as well.

  • The Bill is perfect and I’m proud of the men who wrote it. It passed in the House and it will pass again if it gets to the Senate. OUR HORSES ARE NOT BRED HERE in AMERICA TO EAT !!! The USDA says over 90% of the Horses slaughtered were in great to excellent condition. The Thoroughbreds are pumped up with many different drugs so how the USDA allows people to eat this meat is beyond sick.These are big beautiful much wanted Horses. Many of the Horses are stolen, many owners are unaware at these auctions that Kill Buyers are present, a large majority of Horses slaughtered are Quarter Horses. Isn’t it funny that The Quarter Horse Association is against the Bill? I have been at the auctions and also see an outlet for abusers to sell their Horses to slaughter for profit instead of following our laws. I have seen the inhumane way our Horses are treated in this whole process and it is all to make a buck and it drives me each and everyday to get this Bill passed. And it is an American Issue not a Vegetarian Issue. Horse owners need to take responsibilty for their Horses and put them humanely down NOT sell them to make money.
    The more America learns of this disgusting issue the quicker this will finally be over. And all of our Horses will be safe.

  • In ww2 during rationing, Harvard served horse steak in their cafeteria. After the war was over, the professors liked it so much they forced the cafeteria to keep serving it once a week.

  • To wade in on the Tom/Dale debate here. I know that there are plenty of Asians who view Western eating habits with disdain as well. It’s a two way street here and no one has the high ground.

    I’m of Korean descent and I’ve been teased from time to time about eating dog (ie: What’s the idea of fast food in Korea? Greyhound…they go heeheee as I mutter upyours.) I have personally not eaten it nor do I want to. I know my grandfather did, but not my dad. I have owned dogs but I have never looked at my dog as a potential roast. But if you talk to a lot of Koreans, they have no problem with the idea.

    What we eat is a matter of culture and habit. From time to time I eat dried seaweed, but it grosses out my housemate. When Bobby Burns day rolls around and he wants to eat Haggis, I’m already running to the toilet.

    If I were starving then I’m pretty sure I’d be eating things I wouldn’t normally touch. That being said, why horses? I’m inclined to agree with Carrie. They were not raised to be eaten and have way more drugs and hormones injected into them than even normal beef cattle to make me worry.

    One thing that should be noted is that the dogs raised for food are different than the ones used as pets.

    Bad things happen when we eat things that are not raised explicitly for food.

    AIDS and ebola may have first come from eating the carcasses of dead monkeys (a delicacy in certain parts of Africa). And the Chinese ate Civets (wild cats) until they discovered that you can get the virus that causes SARS off it.

    And to be Donnerish, Kuru–the South Pacific version of Mad Cow–came from the Cannibalistic ritual of eating of the dead’s brains.

    Yes, Bo isn’t a brain scientist, but she has a point.

    All I can say is that there are times when going veghead isn’t such a bad idea… (and I am a meat eater.)

  • What we eat is a matter of culture and habit..
    Comment by Dan

    True, Dan. I would also add ‘choice’. Some people transcend their culture and eat other animals than the prescribed ones and some people choose not to eat animals at all even though they grew up on a SAD (Standard American Diet)

    There’s definitely a health issue in eating animals not raised for food. I hadn’t really thought about that when I was urging people to eat Fido. Although they pump so much toxic cocktail into our food animals that they’re not really fit to eat either.

    I’m definitely not the food-police. Eat what you will shall be the whole of the law. And all animals are created equal.

    I am wondering how many people working to save our horses are working to save our cows.

    Why do we have to pay extra for them NOT to poison or irradiate our food?

    Food is as complicated as politics.

    “Waiter, there are snails on her plate,” The Jerk

  • The 11/06 National Geographic includes the article, A Fin Is A Limb Is a Wing. http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0611/feature4/

    It’s a fantastically matter of fact look at how the more we find out about the genetics of pretty much any living critter, the more obvious it is that we all evolved from, (and are made of), the same stuff. It’s almost a miracle to read through an article waiting to be slapped with some brainless sop to creationism/ID and it never really happens though the word is in there a couple of times for polite dismissal.

    Evolution is it and the same stuff that makes us also makes Sea Squirts and Houseflies and Horses.

    We’re not omnivores for nothing. Muscle is muscle. I eat very little meat and these days I think much more about the creature I’m ingesting when I do. Kangaroos aren’t as charismatic as Horses. Ostriches, the same. What makes Buffalo or Elk more appropriate for burger than Horse?

    If you eat mammal muscle, you eat mammal muscle. Getting picky about it out of sentimentality for one species or another is a bit hypocritical.

    The more I find out about us humans, the more aware I am how connected we are to all sorts of things we choose to eat.

    Personally, I find the eating of Whale and Dolphin just crazy. I see them as sentient beings in a world of water we barely understand. As we expand our understanding of genetics, it will be difficult to stick a fork in any meat and and not feel like we’re digging into a relative.

  • CBR readers have really added a lot of this topic and given me some — ahem — food for thought. I do appreciate it, and I just wanted to add a story about something I once saw on PBS that really turned my stomach. It was one of those animal documentaries that public television does so well. A researcher was on a boat headed into a pretty remote part of the African continent. A fellow passenger offered him some “chimp stew” (which he turned down). Come on. That’s like eating your cousin.

  • I was in Japan a few years ago and I had some horse sashimi; raw horse meat. To be honest, it didn’t taste like anything special. I can’t remember what it tasted like and I only had three small pieces.

    I wonder if we should also pass laws preventing foreigners from eating dog or rabbit or other cute little creatures.

    I think rabbits and dogs are far cuter than horses and I am going to write my congressman today.

  • 🙂 A group of us Africans were on a ship heading into New York City and they offered us some tubes of unknown meat they scrapped off the floor of the factory on denatured thick white “buns” smeared with some concoction made from the mustard plant. We politely turned it down.

  • Would I be able to turn down Bo Derek if she asked for just one teensy favor? Would you? See, this is why we need more gay legislators.

    Comment by Jim Strain

    LOL. Hey if she batted her baby blues at me I might turn into a Republican myself. But I’d recover. Like Dan Jenkins says, “No matter how good a woman looks, somebody, somewhere is tired of her.”

  • What a load of crap this whole thread is. Each culture has foods that are taboo, and foods that are permitted. It quite true that horse is prohibited in the “american diet”. But if Congress wants to do something about the poor horses that get shipped to France(rather than do any thing about the other animals that we raise and eat which don’t enjoy anything like the relative luxury that horses live much of their lives in, then they ought to pass another kind of law. Make all horse owners participate in a collective “horse retirement”fund. The reason that horses–yes healthy horses–get slaughtered and shipped to France, is that people(I suspect even some of your readers) buy horses for their children. Now a child is likely to ride a horse between the ages of say 5 and 18. That’s 13 years–less than half the life of a horse. If people REALLY cared about horses, they’d accept responsibility for the lifetime of the animal, and not for just time that little Ashley wants to prance around in a quaint costume.

    Tax the ownership and use the funds to retire the horses instead of eating them. Stupid idea? Of course, but no more so than trying to tell that it’s okay for you to eat one kind of domesticated animal, and not for them to eat another. Good grief, listen to yourselves. The horse , a noble animal? Only in the sense that it has to nobly suffer the supposed qualities we project on it.

  • The Oklahoma and Texas school systems served horsemeat hamburgers in the 70s when I was in Jr high school. After you got used to the taste, it wasn’t bad. It does have a strange aftertaste. If I try, I can still remember it.

  • If the Europeans want to eat Horse, then by all means, let them do so. If the Asians want to consume Dog and Cat, then that is their option—not mine, and not yours.

    My question on all of this is “this:” How can someone claim that it’s wrong to export a political philosophy, and enforce that philosophy at gunpoint (oh—you mean you didn’t know that’s what the US is doing in Iraq? Shame on you…), and then declare that people’s dietary choices are somehow under the jurisdiction of “American” cultural values?

    As for the Congress, if they’ve come to the conclusion that horses are more important than body-armor for troops deployed to the Iraqi theater of war, then perhaps we might consider subjecting the members of Congress to a specialized form of food-processing.

    Soylent Green, anyone? It comes in two flavors: Democrat and Republican….

  • One day, years ago, a friend of mine nicknamed “Red” stopped by my little ranch. He made money by hauling his nice looking appy stud around and stopping at places he knew had horses and might be interested in breeding to his stud. He was tipsy drunk and was on crutches with a cast on his leg. I was out in my barn chatting with Clark, a rawhide braider who lived and worked on my place. Red came out and joined us. He asked if I knew where he could purchase a fat burro for about $15. I did. A nearby neighbor had one. Red was silent about why he wanted a burro and being true to the Western tradition I didn’t ask any questions. I bought the burro and led it home. Red asked me for my shoeing hammer which I gave him. He then knelt down with his casted leg straight out in front of him. Much to the amazement and shock of both Clark and I, Red wrapped his left arm around the quiet burro’s neck and with his right swung the hammer hard right between the burro’s eyes. Down he went. Red then asked for a knife and the shocked Clark gave him his. Red then proceeded to cut the burro’s throat. Just about that time my wife walked in and asked what we were doing. Red said he planned to butcher out the burro. “Not here you’re not” exclamed my wife, which I thought was a good idea. I called the local packing house who did custom game meat processing. He mixed in 10% beef suete and ground the entire animal into 5 lb hamburger patties and froze them. Three weeks later Red came by again, limping but without his cast, and sober. He brought one of the packages with him and since my wife was not there I agreed to cook them up for us because I was curious. About that time another horsebacker friend, Ted, stopped by and we all sat down to a burroburger lunch. I turned out to be very passable, possibly due to the beef suete. I often pack my horses for trips deep into mountain country where anything can happen. I decided to include a burro in my train for, you know, emergencies.

  • HORSES ARE AN AMERICAN ICON!

    Futhermore, this bill isnt about keeping other countries from eating horsemeat it’s keeping them from eating OUR horses..and making money of an American Icon. The fact of the matter is that over 70 percent of Americans are against horse slaughter and the Senate is STILL sitting on the bill. Don’t they listen to their citizens??
    Flood their offices with calls and lets get this bill passed. The Senate main number is 202 224 3121

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