Perhaps ‘Terrorist Surveillance Program’ was a poor choice

With the Senate set to move on a revised FISA bill, and the renewed debate over retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that cooperated with legally dubious NSA requests, the so-called “Terrorist Surveillance Program” is on the front-burner again.

But the NYT adds a new wrinkle to the debate today: the Bush administration’s surveillance efforts are even “broader and deeper” than previously believed.

[T]he battle is really about something much bigger. At stake is the federal government’s extensive but uneasy partnership with industry to conduct a wide range of secret surveillance operations in fighting terrorism and crime.

The N.S.A.’s reliance on telecommunications companies is broader and deeper than ever before, according to government and industry officials, yet that alliance is strained by legal worries and the fear of public exposure.

To detect narcotics trafficking, for example, the government has been collecting the phone records of thousands of Americans and others inside the United States who call people in Latin America, according to several government officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the program remains classified. But in 2004, one major phone carrier balked at turning over its customers’ records. Worried about possible privacy violations or public relations problems, company executives declined to help the operation, which has not been previously disclosed.

Glenn Greenwald characterizes the landscape as one approaching a “surveillance state.”

The Executive Branch and the largest telecommunications companies work in virtually complete secrecy — with no oversight and no notion of legal limits — to spy on Americans, on our own soil, at will.

More than anything else, what these revelations highlight — yet again — is that the U.S. has become precisely the kind of surveillance state that we were always told was the hallmark of tyrannical societies, with literally no limits on the government’s ability or willingness to spy on its own citizens and to maintain vast dossiers on those activities. The vast bulk of those on whom the Government spies have never been accused, let alone convicted, of having done anything wrong.

As a political matter, I suspect the rhetorical response to this will be similar to what we’ve heard since the warrantless-search program was revealed a couple of years ago.

Then, if you believed that the Bush administration should get a warrant before spying on Americans, and if you suggested that telecommunications companies ought to follow the law and respect customers’ privacy, White House allies insisted you were effectively “pro-terrorism.” After all, if you’re “strong” on national security, you wouldn’t mind giving the NSA and telecoms unchecked, unregulated authority to spy on whomever they pleased.

We’re bound to hear a similar argument here. Instead of the “Terrorist Surveillance Program,” the label will be expanded to the “Drug Kingpin Surveillance Program.” If you expect the Bush administration and the telecoms to follow the law, you must be “soft” on narco-traffickers.

Glenn adds:

This morning’s Times article repeatedly passes on the claim that telecom amnesty is necessary to preserve what it calls “the federal government’s extensive but uneasy partnership with industry to conduct a wide range of secret surveillance operations in fighting terrorism and crime.” It quotes a pro-amnesty telecom executive (to whom The Times outrageously provides anonymity) as claiming: “It’s a very frayed and strained relationship right now, and that’s not a good thing for the country in terms of keeping all of us safe.” It quotes Michael Mukasey — who, in just a couple of weeks, has magically become a leading expert on spying issues sufficient to lend his Sterling Independence and Integrity to parrot the administration’s line — as “saying private companies would be reluctant to provide their ‘full-hearted help’ if they were not given legal protections.”

But this “argument” illustrates the core corruption of the telecom amnesty effort. The telecom industry reaps untold profit as a result of its vast and expanding government contracts. While they — like everyone else in the world — would prefer to be immune from consequences when they break the law, the idea that they are going to terminate this relationship if they do not receive amnesty is insultingly false on its face. These are just the same toxic scare tactics that our government and Congress use continuously to justify every decision they make, every expansion of power they seize: “if you don’t allow us to do what we want, you will be slaughtered by the Terrorists or your kids will be destroyed by Drug Lords.” It’s rank, transparent fear-mongering with no end and with very little opposition among our political class.

Somehow, this debates manages to get less and less healthy all the time.

Long, long ago (the ’50s and ’60s), in a galaxy far, far away (the Haight-Ashbury), I had a Poli Sci professor who told us that governments which emphasize protecting themselves (loyalty oaths in those days) over helping to solve our problems are doomed, that real problem solvers are waiting in the wings to write the next phase of history.

The message was strongly reminiscent of the the sociologist-economist Vilfredo Pareto’s image of stability and change in history. And, as Karl Marx might have said, those who spend our time and money covering their own asses are likely, sooner or later, to find their asses in the dustbin of history.

Bush’s surveillance programs are not to protect us from terrorism. His administration has never shown even an inkling of giving a damn about us, our interests, our problems. He cares about his hyper-rich friends, he cares for those crooks and failures in his administration whom he rewards beyond imagining. He may even care for his wife and family for all I know, maybe even his drug dealer. But he doesn’t give a damn about us. Never has.

Bush’s interest in surveillance is exactly like Nixon’s interest in his enemies list.

Since Pelosi has taken Impeachment off the table, all we can do is wait for his term to end, if it is allowed to, and hope (I can’t pray) for the best in the mean time.

  • To detect narcotics trafficking, for example, the government has been collecting the phone records of thousands of Americans and others inside the United States who call people in Latin America

    I’d just like to note that the next time I hear GOPers bewailing the steadily dwindling number of Hispanic Republican voters, I’m going to think of this and laaaaaugh my arse off.

    Let me guess, the same “reasoning” is used to track calls made from poor urban neighborhoods.

    No wonder BushCo hates the CIA. The CIA was created in part to fight repressive communist regimes. That must make trying to start one in Langley’s backyard a little nerve-wracking.

  • The first time I read 1984 I thought that Orwell was paranoid. I recently re-read the novel, and now I think he was a prophet.

    The Bush-leaguers seem to think the book is a How-to manual.

  • Glenn makes a good argument for yet another example of the shock doctrine – private profits derived from public policies that promote an extreme level of fear by continually propagating catastrophe. Next there will be a need to place cameras in wilderness areas, just for our protection. -Kevo

  • What we also learn is that this started in the Clinton administration, which came up with the “administrative” warrant approach in order to bypass normal channels for approval of the surveillance, so…the Bush WH just took that particular page out of the Clinton playbook, and extensively broadened and deepened it to fit any area in which it sought more information.

    Classic case of one administration giving itself an inch, and a succeeding administration taking a mile. The difference is that Clinton more or less took his “inch” on the QT, and perhaps the media were so distracted with Whitewater and Monica that it all stayed under the radar. With the Bush administration, we have had a series of disclosures and revelations that by themsleves boggle the mind, and together add up to something that has cried out for consequence for a long time – and yet nothing has been done; worse, we allow it to go unpunished knowing that there is no doubt more we don’t yet know about that has to be even worse.

    And where are we now? We’re poised to allow all of the Bush encroachments, all of the Bush establishment of the unitary executive, to remain in place for succeeding presidencies – regardless of party and regardless of motive and intent.

    And…it is becoming increasingly clear that Democrats may have known more, been complicit in more, and rather than making the health of the democracy their number one priority, may have put their own political health at the top of the list – and are desperate to keep this “off the table” as long as possible.

    It just defies understanding.

  • Here’s what my local Dimwits & Droolers Brigade has to say on this:

    “If you aren’t doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about?”

    To which my response nowadays when I hear one of them go on like that is to add another one to my Do Not Contact list.

  • Pertinent to this topic, I watched an excellent movie last night called “The Lives of Others”. It’s getting well deserved good reviews and if you see the DVD, watch the interview with the Director, Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, in the special features.
    I didn’t use the fast forward once, which is unusual these days.

    http://www.amazon.com/Lives-Others-Martina-Gedeck/dp/B000OVLBGC/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1197829213&sr=8-1

    The cold blooded, morally gutted authoritarianism hovering pervasively over the furtive, worn down citizenry in the former GDR feels like a tension lying just below the surface right now in this country. The U.S. doesn’t feel like the GDR out on the street and in our homes at this time. But there are plenty of people in positions of power in this country who have the desire and, more than ever, the means to watch us intently and continuously.

    Money and power accrue to those who watch and who provide the means to watch. Even more money and power accrue to those who control the watchers. Americans are now serving the multiple purposes of being insatiable consumers and also visual and audible fodder for those who would track, observe and evaluate our every move. Data R Us. And as such we are worthy of being collected and quantified and quite possibly deleted from society or existence or both.

  • I saw “The Lives of Others” awhile ago as well and definitely a good movie to check out. While some may not have an issue with government and corporate surveillance to protect us from the Bogeyman of the day (i.e. those of the “if you aren’t doing anything wrong…” brigade), the problem is that no one knows what the next bogeyman will be and how far the government will deem it necessary to go in order to “protect” us.

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  • Telecomms and “other” industry wouldnt need any kind of immunity if the government presented them with a warrant from the FISA court. So, the real question is, why doesn’t our government want to take their concerns and investigations before the FISA court and get a warrant?

  • burro, @8, and starseed, @9,

    I grew up in “people’s” Poland. It wasn’t quite as bad as East Germany in the Lives of Others (a terrific film, I agree) perhaps, but I must say I’ve been feeling quite at home here in the US for the past few years. All we need to round off the picture is having all our snail-mail read, too. Look for the tell-tale re-sealed flaps.

  • If you’re not doing anything wrong then why would you mind if they spy on you? WTF. They get your financial records and any plans you might have and move in on them leaving you wondering what went wrong. It amazes me how simplistic the thinking of those who don’t see this as full blown dictatorship already. They’ve got to be stopped. No matter what they say about who or what they are eaves dropping on just look at the corruption within their own administration and know they will do it for power and profit. They will use it to drive out competition, to spy on political parties, to intimidate and to blackmail competition or those who disagree with them.
    It must be stopped and checks and balances put in place and PUNISHMENTS AND PENALTIES levied. This is the battle line of democracy. Our freedoms are at stake here. If we give up our right to privacy here then ALL OTHER FREEDOMS WILL SOON FOLLOW THIS FORFEITURE.

    I really wish Anne you hadn’t said ‘Clinton did it too’…as this will be used to justify Bush’s corruption in spite of being true. His was hardly worth mentioning in light of what this administration has done. I’m fairly certain that presidents since FDR have done it but none have used it as a tool of a dictatorship like Bush is using it.

    Greed has made it possible to enable the fascists among us and an election will not change it unless we get all the roaches out at the same time. It’s not so much a revolution in politics that is needed as a revolution of politicians infesting the government.

  • I’m beginning to understand what Ashcroft and the leaders in the DoJ were ready to resign over….and why they couldn’t tel us.

  • I really wish Anne you hadn’t said ‘Clinton did it too’…as this will be used to justify Bush’s corruption in spite of being true. His was hardly worth mentioning in light of what this administration has done. I’m fairly certain that presidents since FDR have done it but none have used it as a tool of a dictatorship like Bush is using it. bjobotts
    I have a post at my blog, which is the trackback 2 which looks at the Clinton did it too defense. Take a look.

  • My point wasn’t that “Clinton did it, too,” and certainly wasn’t meant to justify or excuse anything Bush has done. I’m sorry that Clinton was the beginning, apparently, but the point was to show what happens when precedents are set, and how dangerous those precedents are in the wrong hands.

    That Clinton found a creative way to sidestep the warrant requirements, apparently unnoticed or undetected, doesn’t make what he did right – but it opened a door (for all I know, it’s an opening that Bush 41 left that Clinton got creative with, but I only know what the NYT article reported).

    That door, in the hands of the Bush administration was pretty much flung open wider than ever, and through it stampeded a group of people who didn’t give a flying fig whose rights they were trampling on, because their nifty system of staffing the DOJ and the OLC with yes-men who approved and found justification for everything they wanted to do, and with a Congress that for 6 years was reliably compliant and short on questions – the sky was the limit.

    And what is waiting on the other side of the door that Bush has opened? That’s what troubles me – with little or no ability to hold Bush accountable, or re-set the boundaries – which, in my opinion, impeachment would have gone a long way toward doing – it’s anyone’s guess. Are we just supposed to trust that the people who sit in the Oval Office will set their own limits? Know the difference between right and wrong? Be bound by the legislation passed by the Congress, or abide by the opinions of the Attorney General?

    I don’t think so.

    Again – I wasn’t trying to excuse Bush by using Clinton – just pointing out what happens when there is no accountability and no consequence.

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