Petraeus for President?

The last time the New York Sun looked beyond the existing Republican presidential field for their dream candidate, the conservative paper’s editorial board begged Dick Cheney to throw his hat into the ring. Today, the Sun’s imagination went in an even more creative direction.

“I am prepared, even eager, to command our forces in this battle — but only on one condition: That you signal that you share my goal of victory. If you think I am mistaken and wish to continue your efforts to undermine me, then I cannot command. Absent that signal, I will resign, effective immediately, and take my case to the voters in a run for the presidency on a campaign to finish the work of winning the war and redeeming the sacrifice of so many Iraqis, allies, and our own GIs.”

That’s the speech we’d like to see General Petraeus deliver to Congress on the sixth anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

Yes, the New York Sun wants Petraeus to run for president in order to keep Bush’s Iraq policy in place.

Now, I’ve seen some suggestions that Petraeus should gear up for a 2012 campaign, and others who have pointed to Petraeus as a great running mate for the ’08 Republican nominee, but apparently a growing contingent actually sees the general as the real savior of the GOP (sorry Fred Thompson, you are so July 2007.)

There are, of course, a few problems with this fairly silly idea.

First, as Amanda noted, Petraeus has a bit of a history of dropping his independence and reading from the Bush White House’s script.

Petraeus “softened” the intelligence community’s judgments about Iraq violence. After reviewing an early draft of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, “Petraeus succeeded in having the security judgments softened” to reflect so-called improvements in recent months.

Petraeus claimed the United States has “become liberators again” in Iraq. In June, Petraeus argued there was a “golden hour” of “omnipotence” in the early stages of the war where the U.S. was “viewed as a liberator.” He then claimed that Iraqis perceive the United States to once again be “liberators,” this time freeing them from the bloody civil war instigated as a result of the U.S. occupation.

Petraeus claimed life in Iraq is showing “astonishing signs of normalcy.” In June, Petraeus stated that he sees “astonishing signs of normalcy” in Baghdad, despite a report that found violence had “increased in most provinces, particularly in the outlying areas of Baghdad province.”

As part of this, there have been far too many instances in which Petraeus’ political beliefs appear to have taken precedence over his policy judgment.

For that matter, Petraeus is not exactly a popular national figure. A new Rasmussen poll shows that 24% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the general, while 35% of Americans have an unfavorable opinion. I don’t doubt for a moment that most of the country has no idea who he is, but numbers like these aren’t exactly the launching pad for a late-breaking presidential campaign.

Indeed, whereas Gens. Schwarzkopf and Powell became popular and heroic figures during the first Gulf War, Petraeus is unlikely to bask in a similar glow — the first war in Iraq went well; this war has been a disaster. Schwarzkopf and Powell got to share lots of good news with the country about a war that went smoothly; Petraeus has to try and spin discouraging news to the country about a policy that doesn’t work.

But putting all of that aside, there’s another overarching point to keep in mind: counting all of the announced GOP candidates, including some who’ve already dropped out, Republicans have had 11 presidential hopefuls to choose from, and they’re still pining for some other candidate to get into the race and save the party.

That’s just sad.

Petraeus for Military Dictator! Yawohl!

  • I guess Half-dead Fred didn’t turn out to be the world beater the wingnuts thought he would be?

    LOL.

  • Bush has put the “Designated White House Poodle” tag on Petraeus since he’s the only uniformed officer who tells George what he wants to hear instead of all them dang facts and things. So naturally he’s the best (Republican) choice for president since he can be counted on to suppress all the dirt on George and Dick after they leave office.

    Hoo-raw!!

  • As part of this, there have been far too many instances in which Petraeus’ political beliefs appear to have taken precedence over his policy judgment.

    Wouldn’t that then make him the ideal political candidate? It’s better that politicians be upfront about being politicians rather than them cloaking their obvious biases and panderings under the illusion of “policy judgment.”

  • What is really sad is the Dems who will not take this clue and still try to be Bush-lite. Nobody wants or believes in the failed policies of this president, yet the Dems are oh so careful not to be strong and take the upper hand. That is why a guy like Petraeus just might win, not that he is right but that the Dems are throwing victory away with both hands. (My apologies to Margaret Mitchel because I swiped her line.)

    If the Dems actually take the line of crap that Petraeus is going to spew in the next few days or weeks and continue to be complacent, then I don’t give much hope for 2008, no matter who wins.

  • Here’s the making of a great campaign theme:

    He then claimed that Iraqis perceive the United States to once again be “liberators,” this time freeing them from the bloody civil war instigated as a result of the U.S. occupation.

    Vote Petreaus, Because Collective National Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy Makes Us All Feel Better!

  • I’ve felt for a while now that Petraeus has political ambitions and that he’s counting on tried and true media manipulation to portray him either as the savior of Iraq or as an-about-to-be-victorious general who was stabbed in the back by the Democrats. Either way, the Republicans will lap it up and nominate him.

  • Republicans have had 11 presidential hopefuls to choose from, and they’re still pining for some other candidate to get into the race and save the party

    Mitt Romney is the guy to beat. You have to think of sort of the opposite of all the qualities we’d rank highest in value in a leader or presidential candidate if you want a shorthand of what they’re looking for- I know it sounds perverse, but it’s true: 1) photogenic, 2) easy to manipulate, dastardly, 3) not too independent, etc., etc. Basically they want the same thing as Bush, again, but with none of the downsides (none of the independence that ends up going the wrong way, better appeal in the eyes of the public). McCain is kind of like the understudy, but he was favored for a while.

  • When I read that imaginary speech, I thought the punchline was going to be that it was really a letter that Douglas MacArthur wrote to his commander in chief in 1951. Just change Iraq to Korea. We know how MacArthur’s presidential run turned out…Now if Petreaus would just fade away.

  • Swan, going by your criteria Thompson trumps Romney because he has all of Romney’s traits plus he’s lazy, incurious, and he “looks presidential.”

  • Actually, in his new ad Thompson looks like a rumpled old drunk who got sobered up enough to put on a clean shirt for a while. I just hope I never get close enough to him to smell the ‘aftershave’ that Tweety was waxing so rhapsodic about a while back.

  • Swan, going by your criteria Thompson trumps Romney because he has all of Romney’s traits plus he’s lazy, incurious, and he “looks presidential.”

    Nah, sorry. Thomspon looks like the main character from The Wind In The Willows– Mr.Toad. They’re going for more of the politics version of a TV talking head- a dumb model-looking person in good clothes who just says what you want and doesn’t analyze it much on their own, maybe isn’t even capable enough to do that- the watering down of the formula for a politician is, they have to be smart enough not to make a complete ass out of themselves when they’re being spontaneous (off the prepared script).

  • Thompson just isn’t far enough along on that scale. If they had less people to choose from, it would be different. And he has embarrassing, non-physical aspects that show less prominently in Romney (Thompson’s more of a phony, less enthusiastic).

  • “I’ve felt for a while now that Petraeus has political ambitions and that he’s counting on tried and true media manipulation to portray him either as the savior of Iraq or as an-about-to-be-victorious general who was stabbed in the back by the Democrats. Either way, the Republicans will lap it up and nominate him.”

    ==========================

    This is correct. A Dolchstoss myth is being set up by the Deciderer and Petraeus is going to be the beneficiary.

    A sad commentary on our national affairs when a Ludendorff gets elected in 2012.

  • What’s really sad is the way the righties fall in a slobbering heap in their eagerness to kiss the hand of whoever happens to be the president’s main squeeze of the moment. Right now, it’s David. Oops, I meant General Petraeus.

    I guess in an age where a semi-illiterate hatstand ass-rocket can ascend to the country’s highest office, it’s not hard to imagine anyone being president.

  • Indeed, whereas Gens. Schwarzkopf and Powell became popular and heroic figures during the first Gulf War, Petraeus is unlikely to bask in a similar glow — the first war in Iraq went well; this war has been a disaster. Schwarzkopf and Powell got to share lots of good news with the country about a war that went smoothly; Petraeus has to try and spin discouraging news to the country about a policy that doesn’t work.

    Mr Carpetbagger, the root difference is that what you refer to as the “first Gulf War” was not a war at all. It was an internationally sanctioned police action coordinated under UN mandate specifically to repulse the Iraqi invasion from Kuwait, in which US forces along with those of fifteen other countries served.

    This present war, by contrast, is a unilaterally instigated madcap escapade at the strategic whim of a seriously psychotic dimwit of a so-called president, without any international mandate, support or justification.

    The difference is astronomical. The success of the former and the failure of the latter has everything to do with the purpose and legitimacy of the intervention and nothing to do with its tactical execution. There, therefore, is no need to be surprised at the popularity of Gens. Schwarzkopf and Powell, compared to the disdain and disgust invoked by Petraeus, who is the mere yes-man of a criminally fraternity.

  • There are many PhD’s that reall are just not all that bright. Many are extremely studious and dedicated to getting a PhD but barely have average intelligence. If you have enough time and money and connections then you too can get a PhD. It harly qualifies you for president. Petraeus has no experience and basically no particular qualifications to be president. Some right wing media organizations have desperate imaginations.

  • genital betrayus sang a sweet song for bulsh right before 04 too. It went something like, those Iraqi troops are soooooooooooo goooooood they WILL be taking over their country ANY second now….. yea o k

    flo

  • I’m confused. Did Petraeus say he was running for president? Has he already delivered his assessment of the situation in Iraq to congress? I must have missed it. Oh, well. Just go ahead and kill him. We never liked him anyway.

  • Yes, and he can run with chunky-ass, doughboy, baby penis, draft-dodging, serial adulterer and professional hypocrite Newton Gingrich.

  • On September 6th, 2007 at 8:49 pm, Swan said:
    PhD = player-hating degree

    as any college student will tell you.

    I heard it differently: BS –everyone knows what that is; MS –more of the same;
    PhD — piled higher and deeper

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