Poll shows Americans see McCain as more of the same

There are a plenty of interesting tidbits in the new WaPo/ABC News poll — overall, Barack Obama leads John McCain by six among all Americans (48-42) and by four among registered voters (49-45) — but there was one set of numbers that was of particular interest.

McCain will be running into stiff headwinds over the next five months. Bush’s approval rating hit another low in Post-ABC polling and now is 29 percent, with 68 percent saying they disapprove of the job he is doing — 54 percent strongly. Among the dwindling number who approve of the way Bush is handling his job, 80 percent back McCain. Among the much higher number who disapprove, 26 percent support McCain.

In general, 57 percent said McCain would continue to lead the country as Bush has and 38 percent said he would chart a new course.

That’s a very tough hurdle to clear. Americans aren’t satisfied with the status quo, they believe the nation is going in the wrong direction (84% of poll respondents said the nation is seriously on the wrong track, an all-time high), and John McCain has spent the last several years explaining to everyone who will listen that on the biggest issues, he and Bush are reading from the same script. Sure, McCain is scrambling now, downplaying the notion that he’s offering the nation a third Bush term, but a) he’s struggling to explain how he’s different; and b) voters apparently aren’t buying the new spin.

This wasn’t supposed to happen. One of the reasons McCain was able to succeed in the Republican primaries is because he still had some semblance of a “maverick” reputation, which made him more electable than his GOP rivals. He had, to borrow the buzzword of the year, the kind of “brand” that made media outlets and independent voters swoon.

But given recent polls that show the public looking at McCain as more of the same, it seems that Americans aren’t quite as fond of the new McCain, or perhaps McCain’s media image never really permeated outside the Beltway in the first place.

The Baltimore Sun’s Paul West had an interesting item over the weekend about McCain’s faltering reputation.

John McCain once had the most powerful brand in American politics.

He was often called the country’s most popular politician and widely admired for his independent streak. It wasn’t too many years ago that “maverick” was the cliche of choice in describing him.

But that term didn’t even make the list this year when voters were asked by the Pew Research Center to sum up McCain in a single word. “Old” got the most mentions, followed by “honest,” “experienced,” “patriot,” “conservative” and a dozen more. The words “independent,” “change” or “reformer” weren’t among them.

Voters have notoriously short memories, but it could be argued that McCain cheapened his own brand.

He embraced President Bush and attempted to become, like Bush, the choice of the Republican establishment. In the process, he helped obliterate recollections of his first run for president, when he became the first Republican in a long time with strong crossover appeal to independents and Democrats.

Losing his reputation for independence could prove particularly costly this year.

McCain told NBC last week, “It’s tough, but I think the American people didn’t get to know me yesterday. They know me.”

They used to know him, and then McCain decided to reinvent himself.

At this point, it’s almost impossible to know what McCain’s core convictions are, or if he has any at all. I do know he had the kind of maverick/independent/centrist reputation that would have helped him run as an agent of change this year — but would have made it tough to win the Republican nomination.

So McCain dropped the facade to become Mr. Four More Years. Voters don’t seem to care for it, and more importantly, it’s too late for him to do anything about it.

better still, the last-to-know MSM finally seem to have caught the prevailing winds. they may have inexplicable crushes on McSame, but in the end they never want to risk being far from the crowd. so i was pleasantly surprised this morning to see not one but two McSame-questioning headlines in the front page “Opinions” box of WaPo, hopefully the start of a trend:

Now He Tells Us
George F. Will: John McCain’s latest position on Gitmo is hypocritical.
Dana Milbank: He’s dancing around a lot of other issues, too.

With any luck, this will become permission for more MSM heresy and will lead to stories that push McSame’s numbers even lower.

  • So McCain dropped the facade to become Mr. Four More Years. Voters don’t seem to care for it, and more importantly, it’s too late for him to do anything about it.

    John McCain made the decision to Hugg and Kiss Bush every chance he got in return for a shot at the whitehouse in 2008. He made the decision to embrace captain incompetent and thus enabled all the bad decisions Bush made.

    Now he’s stuck and labeled as more of the McSame old thing. You reap what you sow, John.

  • but I think the American people didn’t get to know me yesterday – McCain

    The people who know McCain generally don’t like him. That’s true of people from the left and the right. In general the biggest asset a Republican can have this year is lack of recognition, and I think McCain gets a big bump to date from that. His problem, unlike Bush eight or even four years ago, is that there is no buzz. There simply is no one to tell the disengaged that McCain is good for America. While the Rep strategy at this point has to be to bash Obama’s image, it’s hard to imagine that people who are desperate for change are going to stay home, or vote for the guy no one cares for.

  • It’s worrying, however, that so many people see McCain as an extension of Bush policies, yet Obama only leads by 6%. I’d like to see that around a more comfortable 12%.

    People are starting to really look at McCain and see him for the oportunist he really is. His flip flops and his life story have caught up to him.

  • The question I had about that number:

    How much overlap is there between the 57 percent who think McCain will be a third Bush term and the 29 percent who approve of Bush?

    If there’s little overlap, then great — we have a majority in the country thinking that McCain would be Bush III and recognize that’s a bad thing.

    But if there’s significant overlap, then the picture becomes a little more muddled. We have a sizable number who’d vote for McCain hoping he’d be a continuation of current policies and a sizable number who think he’d be different and vote for him as a result.

    Any info in the poll on this?

  • “It could be argued that McCain cheapened his own brand.”

    Do ya think so?

    The McCain “brand” (I love it when Republicans talk in terms of “branding” instead of substance”) was built well before 2000, when McCain sold his soul in an effort to become president. And crooked old Satan didn’t even deliver on his side of the bargain.

    Someday very soon the MSM is going to wake up to the fact that the straight-talking maverick (if he ever existed) left us at least eight years ago. He’s been replaced by the confused double-talker that we see today.

    Asked to sum up McCain, the most frequent poll answer was “old”? Ouch!

  • “overall, Barack Obama leads John McCain by six among all Americans (48-42) and by four among registered voters (49-45) ”

    We keep hearing all kinds of news and polls showing how badly McCain is doing, how out of step he is, how old and tired and listless and tied to Bush’s failed agenda, how little money he is raising, and the bottom line is . . . surprise! He’s four points behind Obama among registered voters. It just doesn’t add up. He ought to be behind by twenty-four – where the hell is the other twenty? Why are they voting for this guy who offers nothing but more of the same, and even worse?

    This thing is not over. A couple of breaks, and McCain could pull ahead. Maybe he’ll learn how to use Google, raise a few bucks, and get a better speech writer. Maybe someone will give him a good shake so he acts like he’s awake when he delivers a speech.

    The point is, everything is going wrong for him, and he’s only four points behind.

    And maybe his offshore drilling flip-flop will resonate with the people. That could be a big one.

  • Saying all that, his new commercial seems to be “I stood up to the president.” I am surprised he hasn’t been hospitalized with whiplash or multiple personalities. While I won’t hold my breath, I do hope the press starts paying attention to all this and at the DNC and the Obama campaign make commercials specifically pointing this out.

  • I have an idea for a TV or video ad about McBush. Hire some 70-something former gymnast or acrobat who looks his age, but is in good enough shape to do various gymnastics moves, like somersaults, cartwheels, roundoffs, flips, etc. Dress him in some ridiculous-looking outfit. Maybe a skimpy, tight Spandex outfit. Then film him doing various gymnastics moves.

    Next, intersperse these clips of the old guy doing flips, etc. with clips of McBush first saying “A,” then “Not A.” The tag line would have to do with McBush being a flip-flopper. Maybe something like, “John McCain has so many moves, you never know what he’ll do next.”

  • Here in PA I’m seeing McCain commercials every night! Nothing from Obama yet!
    Obama has a lot of convincing to do in the Pennsylvania hinterland.

  • I think this is yet another example that shows how little influence the media really has over America. So much of being “popular” is having a name that people recognize, but don’t have anything particularly negative to hold against them. The media then does it’s spinning to determine how to interpret those results, which always always always reinforces the exact things the media thinks about the person.

    But I betcha that, even now with him running for president, even informed voters who vote regularly know very little about McCain beyond his name, but that the closer we get to the election, the more they’ll know and the less they’ll like. For as much as us political junkies do this stuff 24/7/365, most voters really don’t care until it comes to decision time. That’s why polls taken long before elections are often so wrong, where Guiliani was considered hot shit because people knew his name and Dean was a big frontrunner because he was the only Dem who attracted lots of political activist-types; while Kerry eventually got the people who didn’t care as much. The truth is that most registered voters aren’t political junkies, don’t watch cable news, aren’t influenced by the media, and don’t really care until they need to start caring. And I don’t really see a problem with that. Not everyone should be expected to enjoy politics like we do.

    Thus said, Obama doesn’t have this problem as much, as he was only freshly discovered this election cycle, and the people who say they’ll vote for him are basing it upon what they learned this year. But McCain’s largely known for being known and many of the people who say they’ll vote for him are basing it solely on knowing his name, but don’t know really know who the 2008 John McCain is. But once they really start learning about the latest incarnation of McCain, the less they’ll like. That’s not likely to happen until August, at the earliest. You might prefer that it’ll happen sooner, but it won’t.

  • Never seen millions of frustrated, angry Americans demonstrate in the streets, like they do in Europe and the rest of the world? If the U.S. grants amnesty and gives citizenship to 12 to 30 million illegal migrants, as Senators Obama and McCain propose, those naturalized citizens could possibly add 120 million U.S. and foreign-born relatives to the U.S. in the next 20 years, who all consume energy. Diversity Alliance for Sustainable America. http://www.earthtimes.org/ You must decide your children’s future, your jobs by demanding Democrats sponsor the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R.4088 enforcement in the workplace) Call toll-free (2022243121 )
    NUMBERSUSA.

  • Funny, I keep hearing ‘Mcsame’ and a ‘3d Bush term’ but what so many of the empty suited wonders supporters fail to see is he (Obama) has espoused the exact same failed policies and views as Carter… so in effect Obama is running for Carters 2d term… and lest you forgot, partisan BS aside, Carter is widely considered to be the worst President in modern history and Bush isn’t even close, regardless of how much childish and bordering on insane hatred you harbor for him.
    Who has really screwed up the country the last 8 years, Bush or Congress?

    If the media has any credibility (and they don’t) they’ll be looking into both McCain and Obama, but given the complete love fest the media has had with Obama it’s unlikely that the average voter will really know just how bad for America Obama would be or that his intent is to STEAL from people who have built themselves up through a lifetime of work and sacrifice (the real American dream) to redistribute that money to others. Apparently Mr. Obama doesn’t subscribe to the long held American tradition of working hard, sacrificing and getting ahead in life.

    McCain is certainly no Bush, though he does share some of the same shortcomings – and he is certainly a bad candidate for President, but in a lessor of two evils match up he is far less dangerous and damaging to the American ideal and dream than the empty suited wonder.

    You have to ask yourself this question; Do you really want a bunch of 20 somethings who have no real life experience in life, to decide the future because that’s where most of Obama’s support is coming from, young, ‘dumb’ kids who don’t know much about the real world.

  • None of the published polls between McCain and Obama are worth anything if they are a national poll, rather than a STATE-BY-STATE poll a la the Electoral College that actually determines the next U. S. President !! This is the point that the brilliant and gifted Senator Clinton was making to the remaining Superdelagates, but nobody listened. Instead, her opponents are awed by the greatness of her recent concession speech!! GO FIGURE !! Any fifth grader can easily see from the key swing states of the Democrat Primaries in Ohio, Pennsylvania, California, and West Virginia, where Senator Clinton easily defeated the naive Obama, that the Reagan Democrats in those key states control the outcome of the vote; those Reagan Democrats who voted for Senator Clinton will vote for McCain, who said 10 days ago “I will never Surrender Iraq”, rather than Obama whose naive exit strategy from Iraq (unconditional and total withdrawral of all U. S. troops by May 2010 without leaving any “trip wire” at Basra) will obviously allow Iran to infiltrate
    heavily armed militia into Basra in June 2010 to deny all that crude oil revenue from Baghdad to precipitate an Iraqi Civil War as the Kurds in northern Iraq do likewise, thus leaving all of the American sacrifice in Iraq on the ash heap of history!!!

    Senator McCain is good friends with Senator Clinton and holds many similar concerns for the working class people; she supported Senator Goldwater from Arizona when he ran for President. Its a NO-BRAINER; Senator McCain will easily defeat the naive Obama in November 2008 by taking the large electoral college states noted above, which Senator Clinton would have won !! I can still hear Obama mocking Senator Clinton after his ignominious BITTER-gate event where he asked if she thought she was Annie Oakley, after Senator Clinton admonished Obama for making such a childish comment while pandering to a rich Silicon Valley group of Obama supporters/donors who benefit from international trade agreements by exporting their high-tech merchandise. Obama’s MENDACITY and ARROGANCE was also manifest in NAFTA-gate, and throughout his Pied Piper Hamlet campaign, with his rediculous chants of “Yes we can!”. FINISH THE SENTENCE Obama, We Can ……??? CAN WHAT ??? !!! ARE YOU FIRED UP ???!! NO, NO, NO, to Obama !!!

  • I’ve voted democratic nearly all of my life … Although I don’t like a lot of what Bush has done over the past 7 1/2 years …
    there is no way I would vote for Obama … even if it is the cool in thing to do. I can’t get past the way he entered into
    Chicago politics … boasting about how he registered black voters, while eliminating his opponents with technicalities,
    which took the choice away from the voters … I don’t like the fact that he attended an anti-American racist church for
    20 years … which gave a bigot like Louis Farakan a life time achievement award … I don’t like the way his followers
    trashed Hillary Clinton … I don’t like the fact that the DNC disregarded half of their party and the majority of the popular
    votes in behalf of Obama … I don’t like the fact that as a U.S. Senator he voted present 100 times, and spent most of his time
    running for President of the United States … I don’t like the unpatriotic attitude of the far left Democratic party which seem
    to be running everything now … etc., etc., etc.

  • wow, Lee, if i thought there was any chance it would sink in it would be interesting to point out just how many things in your post are objectively, verifiably, wrong. Non-factual. Which is to say if you were knowing or intentional you are, how do I say this. . . lying.

    James, I hate to burst your bubble, which obviously is where you are, but (a) I agree with you that national polls don’t matter, only state-by-state polls and (b) Obama is actually doing even better against McCain on a state-by-state electoral vote basis than in national polls. See, e.g. http://www.electoral-vote.com.

  • Mccain is in a precarious position because of the failures of the Bush administration, no wait, just Bush. Now, it is disengenuous to presume that Mccain is the same as Bush. He is not, and shows tendencies toward changing the Republican image. Since he is resorting to this sense of change, Obama wins. This slight by Mccain on his own party denigrates his chances. He’s caught up in a precarious position that he may not be able to overcome. Obama will slam him every step of them way, whenever he tries to get out of a situation by flip-flopping or pure sinility. For most of the people who get it, and understand that the fundaments of American politics needs to be changed, the sooner the people will understand that Obama offers a unique opportunity to begin to dig ourselves out of our self-dug graves.

  • I also think that the polls between the two candidates are too close for comfort. I think the reason is due to Hilary Clinton’s slandering campaign, and the fact the Obama is black. I am disappointed not only with the Republican pary, but with people of both parties who still think that Obama is a Muslim (not that it really matters). People, do your research!!

  • I too am concerned that McCain is so close. His party’s in the toilet, his campaign’s a train wreck, and he commits major gaffes every time he opens his mouth–and he’s still behind by only 4 points? Dukakis was ahead by 17 points at a similar time in that election, and he still lost! Of course, what really matters isn’t the national numbers, but rather the ones in swing states, and I don’t have the impression Obama’s doing all that well in those either. Congress is going to see a Dem sweep, but McCain could very well win the presidential election.

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