Rice aide says she lacks ‘vaguest notion’ of modern Middle Eastern history

Top Bush administration officials seem to revel in historical analogies, particularly when it comes to the war in Iraq. At different times, the Bush gang has referenced Korea, the Revolutionary War, WWI, and the Civil War. By mid-2005, the president had settled on World War II as a personal favorite.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is especially fond of pointing to history to justify White House decisions. When pressed a few months ago about the failures of the administration’s policies in the Middle East, Rice told reporters, “I’m a student of history, so perhaps I have a little more patience with enormous change in the international system. It’s a big shifting of tectonic plates, and I don’t expect it to happen in a few days or even in a year.” Apparently, Rice’s detractors just don’t know enough about history to make sound judgments. We should leave it all to Dr. Rice.

With this in mind, the Wall Street Journal noted today that when Rice compares today’s challenges in the Middle East to the Cold War and post-World War II Europe, as she does quite frequently, she has no idea what she’s talking about.

Her contention is while things may look bad now in Iraq and elsewhere in the region, history is on the administration’s side. She pushed a similar argument to reporters last month. The Middle East is “moving toward something that I am quite certain will not have a full resolution and that you will not be able to fully judge for decades,” she said.

Critics dismiss Ms. Rice’s references to the Cold War as both convenient and a sign of her limited frame of reference. The challenges facing Europe in 1946, they say, bear little similarity to those of the Middle East in the 21st century.

“The administration’s reservoir of historical analogies seems limited to the 1914-1991 period. And it’s all about Europe,” said Adam Garfinkle, a former Rice speechwriter who edits the foreign-policy journal The American Interest. “No one in a senior position in this administration seems to have even the vaguest notion of modern Middle Eastern history.”

When a Rice speechwriter says the administration’s top officials are clueless, you know it’s bad.

Of course, Rice’s misguided perspective, in which she seems to force modern situations into the historical models she’s familiar with, have real consequences. As the WSJ noted, Rice “tends to portray events, particularly the clash between what she calls ‘moderation’ and ‘extremism’ in the Middle East, as driven by huge, almost inevitable forces that make diplomacy impractical, or even irrelevant.” Rice personally fed that notion this week by insisting diplomatic negations had nothing to do with “deal making.”

“There’s a tendency to think about diplomacy as something that is done untethered to the conditions underlying it or the balance underlying it,” she said. “In fact, that’s not the way that it works. You aren’t going to be successful as a diplomat if you don’t understand the strategic context in which you are actually negotiating. It is not deal-making.”

Aaron David Miller, a public policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center and former advisor to Secretaries of State from George Schulz to Colin Powell, said Rice’s comments were so misguided, he “nearly fell off [his] chair” when he read them.

Remember, back in 2000, when candidate George W. Bush said it didn’t matter if he knew anything; what mattered was he’d have top-notch advisors?

“Remember, back in 2000, when candidate George W. Bush said it didn’t matter if he knew anything; what mattered was he’d have top-notch advisors?”

Yeah, too bad his idea of top-notch advisors is anyone who gives good backrubs and shines his shoes up real good. 🙁

  • Somewhere I have Condi’s Oct 2000 foriegn policy speech she gave to lay out the foriegn policy approach and priorities that a Shrub administration would bring to table.

    It is not online anymore. Might be something to do with the fact that Terrorism was considered as a threat and that Shrub was a humble man….

  • Nice. When the Wank Stain Urinal goes after a member of BushCo (TM) you know things are bad.

    I wonder if the White House will respond by calling him a sexist racist homophobe for saying ungentlemanly things about Dr. Rice.

  • You mean like the military hexpert (Krause?) who was trotted around various MSM places to defend the surge and his PhD and his sphere of expertise was on the Napoleonic war! Yeah, the fucking Napoleonic war where men in bright coats stood in lines and shot at each other with muskets while uttering sacred oaths about god and country.

  • “Dr” Rice: “There’s a tendency to think about diplomacy as something that is done untethered to the conditions underlying it or the balance underlying it,”

    Here we go with the strawmen again. No Bush argument is complete without at least one, usually there’s a small platoon. Does anyone think diplomacy is done in a vacuum?

    And can someone please grill her to see if she knows who is who in the area, with regards to Sunni/Shiite loyalties? And maybe have her rattle off some of the major events of the region, and their approximate dates.

    I’ll bet she’s almost as clueless as the other sycophants.

  • All of this is a convenient excuse for Condi to disengage from the hard work of diplomacy so she can spend her time buying shoes.

    I heard her on NPR last night where she postulated that we can not speak with the Iranians because we have no leverage over them. Not only is this a bullshit excuse for not bothering to establish a dialogue with another nation, after all, wouldn’t they now be more open to talk with us if they feel they have a chip in the game, but it demonstrates a “failure of imagination” that the 9/11 Commission noted was responsible for the WTC attacks.

    The art of diplomacy, which Condi has demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of, is to craft scenarios where it is in another nation’s interests to cooperate with us. That can occur without the other nation feeling Condi’s stilletto heels digging into their neck.

    The other grave miscalculation is the Bushites contention that the Middle East’s problems are all due to a war of religious ideologies between Islamic extremists and Christianity. Horse crap. The failure to understand the fact that Palestine is a lynchpin to solving the Middle East has only buried us deeper in the Mide East morass. If the Bush clan would only pull their heads out of their ideologocal butts, this nations’ foreign policy might just get somewhere.

  • I’m long past astonishment at the incompetence of this regime. For the WSJ to take a swipe at them? That’s news!

  • Rice: “You aren’t going to be successful as a diplomat if you don’t understand the strategic context in which you are actually negotiating.”

    Rice speechwriter: “No one in a senior position in this administration seems to have even the vaguest notion of modern Middle Eastern history.”

    Res ipsa loquitur

  • And these people like Rice choose to be ignorant. They can immediately get the best people in the field to prepare a one page summary of Iraq and the Mid East. They dont’ have to read it. They can get briefed in person. They could even ask a question or two.

    Sometimes a PhD requires talent or creativity but usually it just entails following orders for an extra couple of years. I think Rice is the order-following type.

  • Remember, back in 2000, when candidate George W. Bush said it didn’t matter if he knew anything; what mattered was he’d have top-notch advisors?

    Alas, I remember Reagan using essentially the same line, something like “You get the best people you can to do the job and you let them do it.”

    After which came indictment after indictment, leading to a dozen convictions.

  • The conservative idealogues I know disdain “academics”, who they see as secular liberals. They hate intellectuals, people who read things and know things, when everything is so clear without all that effort. They cloud their heads with knowledge that turns things gray, when they were born with the ability to discern black and white.

    That, my friends, is the cruxt of the problem. If everyone who is informed and knows things is liberal, that should tell you something.

  • Just because Condi is not educated in Middle East History, does not mean that she can’t read and get up to speed. She seems to be a lazy thinker and is resting on her previously earned Ph.D. How many of us using this forum were originally Middle East History majors in college? Most of us read and educated ourselves. Her inferior education is no explanation, but her intellectual laziness and dishonesty explains a lot.

  • When the Secretary of State references diplomacy as being “irrelevant,” then does this not mean that the Secretary of State is declaring herself to likewise be “irrelevant?” Or is it merely her “job” to promote the irrelevancy of her position, so that it may be “discontinued” by the “Das Boosh UberKrieg” machine?

  • Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Having no angelic pretensions, I license myself to rush in where I have no training, expertise or qualification: History.

    Perspective is everything. From a non-ME non-US perspective, the US invasion of Iraq has as much legitimacy as the Third Reich’s invasion of Poland. How can Rice, any better than Rippentrop, claim to have an objective understanding of “the conditions underlying [it] or the balance underlying [it]” a situation she is entirely complicit in creating? Impossible at best, disingenuous at worst.

    Does a thief and murderer expound theories of diplomacy when pushing around the victims?

  • Q: What do you get when you mix political hacks with ignorant historical perspective? A: The Bush Administration.

    Q: What do you get from the Bush Administration? A: ruin!

    Impeachment and removal from office seem go be the only viable alternatives to Pres. Bush’s current Iraq strategy. -Kevo

  • Does a thief and murderer expound theories of diplomacy when pushing around the victims? —Comment by Goldilocks

    Answer: Yes, this one does and seems to feel no shame. I loathe that woman.

  • It’s like conservatives go *hunting* for the dumbest, most obtuse, thoughtless twits they can find in any community that’s not exclusively straight-white-Christian-males, and then tell them to just be themselves as human roadblocks to the opposition, as if to take the idea of affirmative action and shove it back into liberals’ faces and say, “You think blacks and hispanics and women are so smart, what are you going to say when Alberto Gonzales or Condoleezza Rice says something stupid, and we attack *you* for attacking someone who’s black or hispanic or female? Hah, now you’re stuck!”

  • Condi had been flying around the world nearly non-stop since she took this post, and what has she accomplished?

    Has she presided over the signing a any historic treaties? Non historic treaties? Has she advanced peace in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute? Has she taken a leadership role over Darfur?

    Really? Condi’s legacy will read alot like her boss’s – she participated in starting a catastrophic war and lives under the misapprehension that diplomacy is somehow a reward for good behavior.

  • The reward Rice *ought* to get is to have all of those fancy shoes she likes put onto the feet of people who deserve to be allowed to kick her in the ass for being such a shithead, whether it’s about 9/11 or Katrina or Bush generally. Nobody could have expected anything bad would come of letting such a self-absorbed, enabling dipshit have any influence in the government, and that goes for her as well as her husba-, I mean, boss.

  • Just wait for the Idiot Child to express confidence in his Secretary of State with the kind of brainless statement for which his famous. Something like “Good job, Blackie.”

  • “You mean like the military hexpert (Krause?) who was trotted around various MSM places to defend the surge and his PhD and his sphere of expertise was on the Napoleonic war! Yeah, the fucking Napoleonic war where men in bright coats stood in lines and shot at each other with muskets while uttering sacred oaths about god and country.” – Former Dan

    Hey, don’t knock the Napoleonic Wars (always plural, please)! Yes, the Spanish, Russians and the Germans after 1812 used religion to gin up support from their troops (not that it saved Moscow in the end) but it was not an era of both sides yelling oaths at each other. Certainly not for the French.

    Dr. “no imagination” Rice is a joke, and a sad one at that. Diplomacy is the art of talking your enemies around until they at least support a temporary policy of agreement. The Bushites, being dumber than everyone (they can’t even write back a letter to the President of Iran explaining to him that democracy hasn’t failed until you try it and why don’t they give it a try in Iran one time) naturally fear to talk to people who will just make them look like idiots (which they are).

    Impeach them or out wait them. If Pelosi and Reid get on the ball with investigations we might get the impeachment in fact. That would be just, but unlikely.

  • Funny how often the Secretary of State is referred to by her academic title, and how infrequently it is pointed out that Iranian president Ahmadinejad has a doctorate in engineering. Maybe his engineering background has as much to do with his personality as his religion.

    They should both take a look at http://www.encounterpoint.com/index.php

  • Some time ago I read an article that stated that Ms. Rice’s doctoral dissertation was FULL of factual errors. I believe that article was written by someone who knew intimately the geographical area and events that were the focus of her research. I wish I’d kept itt, but perhaps some internet sleuth can find it. It would seem (if true, of course) to go along with the apparent lack of knowledge and interest in accurate concepts that we see in her today.

  • from fall 2000 to spring 2002 i studied Arabic, Politics & Government in the Middle East, Islam, and participated in Study Abroad twice, for a total of 6 months. i have forgotten more about the issues most relevant to ms. rice’s job than she will ever know. it make me sick to the core of my being that the first African American woman to reach the level of power and political influence her job wields is a vacant, arrogant idiot.

    does anyone remember the funeral of Pope John Paul II? i watched it on pbs in the middle of the night…georgie boy and ms. rice were beaming and glad-handing like it was a coctail party. they were the ONLY smiling faces among thousands. not one dignitary or religious figure (not even those to whom they were being introduced) was even grinning. TACKY!!! ONE DOES NOT SCHMOOZE AT A FUNERAL–ESPECIALLY THE FUNERAL OF THE MAN WHO INSPIRED SUCH GLOBAL SOCIAL CHANGE–ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE IS THE (supposed) LEADER OF THE (somewhat) FREE WORLD!

    she is beyond cheesy! and if she is so proud of her doctorate, WHY did HER OWN EMPLOYER only begin to refer to her as “DR. RICE” near the end of the 2004 campaign??? PUH-LEEZE!!!

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