Rice, the CIA, and the July 2001 meeting

Yesterday, we talked about a meeting then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice had, on July 10, 2001, with then-CIA Director George J. Tenet and his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black. According to the CIA officials, Tenet and Black warned Rice that al Qaeda was planning an attack on American interests, possibly in the United States itself, and that immediate action was needed. Rice, according to reports, blew the concerns off.

With Bob Woodward’s new book, “State of Denial,” highlighting this incident, questions about Rice’s decision making abound. For her part, Rice initially questioned whether the meeting had even happened. Today, news reports shed quite a bit of light on the subject.

Former CIA director George Tenet told the 9/11 Commission that he had warned of an imminent threat from al-Qaeda in a July 2001 meeting with Condoleezza Rice, adding that he believed Rice took the warning seriously, according to a transcript of the interview and the recollection of a commissioner who was there.

Tenet’s statements to the commission in January 2004 confirm the outlines of an event in a new book by Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward that has been disputed by some Bush administration officials. But the testimony also is at odds with Woodward’s depiction of Tenet and former CIA counterterrorism chief J. Cofer Black as being frustrated that “they were not getting through to Rice” after the July 10, 2001, meeting.

There was some question yesterday as to why the 9/11 Commission had not been notified about the meeting. As it turns out, the panel was told about it, by Tenet directly, who showed commission members the same slides he showed Rice two months before 9/11. Indeed, according to the artists formerly known as Knight Ridder, the whole Bush gang — including Rice, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft — saw it, too.

The State Department’s disclosure Monday that the pair was briefed within a week after then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice was told about the threat on July 10, 2001, raised new questions about what the Bush administration did in response, and about why so many officials have claimed they never received or don’t remember the warning.

In fact, this raises a whole slew of questions.

Simon Rosenberg asks a few:

1) How did the fact of this meeting fall out of the 9/11 Commission Report? Did the Commission’s Executive Director, Phillip Zelikow, now a Rice staffer, fight to keep it out?

2) Rice has consistently said she was never told that summer that Bin Laden might strike inside the US. Did this briefing have such information? According to this story it did. And why does she keep saying this when the Aug 6th memo to the President clearly indicates that Bin Laden was attempting to strike in the US?

3) Did Rumsfeld and Ashcroft get the same briefing, as Sec. Rice says?

4) What specific actions did the President and National Security Advisor take upon receiving this urgent briefing on July 10th, a full two months before 9/11?

5) Isn’t it now clear that Bush and his team were amply warned about the impending attacks throughout the summer and did nothing? And that the Secretary of State is simply lying about a grave and serious security matter to cover her ass?

As for #3, it appears Rumsfeld and Ashcroft did get the same briefing, which in some ways makes the administration look worse (Rice didn’t just blow off the warnings; the entire Bush team did).

There is one way to help get to the bottom of all of this, and Kevin Drum lays it out for us:

Can we just declassify the damn PowerPoints? Is there any possible chance that making public a five-year-old set of slides about al-Qaeda would damage any sources or methods? Especially if Tenet has already offered to testify about it in public?

These mysteries are absurd. Show us the slides and let’s see who’s telling the truth.

Sounds good to me. According to intelligence officials, the slide presentation was a “10 on a scale of 1 to 10”; it was “intended to ‘connect the dots'” and paint a very clear picture of the threat posed by bin Laden; and the tone of the report was “scary.”

Maybe so, but there’s only one way to find out. If, however, the PowerPoints are as serious as they sound, and Rice & Co. did nothing, the administration won’t have much of a defense.

Rice has looked like an idiot on this from the day she said that no one could have “imagined” the terrorists flying planes into buildings, even though this was the plot of a fictional book (Tom Clancey’s “Debt of Honor”) and the real actual plot to fly a plane into a nuclear power plant.

Rice, she must just not have much of an imagination then.

On the larger political issues. Fighting Terrorism is “supposed” to be the Republican’ts great issue for the Fall (they have nothing else. Ask them how they are getting gasoline prices down now but didn’t bother all last year?) and is supposed to drive Iraq from our attention. Democrats should embrace this. Play the Blame Game as the Republican’ts like to say, after “Path to 9/11[/01]” they can’t complain.

Beat (puffed) Rice like a drum!

  • The only thing that worries me is that Ben Veniste saw the presentation and it didn’t impact him enough to make sure it was in the Commission report. The guy’s a bulldog. Does this weaken the case against the Bushi’ites at all?

  • Puts a whole new light on the assertion that the August 6 PDB was “historical” in nature – Bush, et al had heard it all an entire month before. No wonder he dismissed the guy who brought the PDB to the ranch that day.

    It really takes brass balls for these guys to say that America can’t trust the Democrats.

  • I hate to bring this up but did’nt Cinthia Mckinny make some of these same insinuations ?

  • Especially if Tenet has already offered to testify about it in public?

    That says everything that needs to said, doesn’t it? If the the country’s top spook had no qualms about testifying in public about this, what’s the hang up?

    Does the entire GOP agenda boil down to anything other than covering their sad asses?

  • “Nobody could have imagined using planes as weapons…”

    Oh yeah? I’ll grant her that not everyone read Tom Clancy’s book (though it did advance this exact theory), but this excuse is preposterous when you consider this completely REAL scenario…

    July 20, 2001: The G8 summit in Genoa, Italy begins. Security is extremely tight because of large protests and intelligence indicating that terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden were planning to attack the summit to kill George W. Bush and other attendees. The reported attack plan involved crashing a plane packed with explosives into the buildings where the delegates were meeting or staying during the summit.

    Numerous precautions against this attack were taken, including: George W. Bush staying at a separate location from the other delegates, fighter jets patrolling the sky over the city, a large no-fly zone for commercial aircraft, and surface-to-air missile batteries emplaced around the city.

    No one could hve imagined it except that your very Administration took specific precautions against exactly that attack earlier that same summer.

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

  • Isn’t this the same meeting where Tenet wanted approval to kill Bin Laden and Rice said President Tough Guy “wasn’t interested in just swatting flies.”?

    The fact that this incompetent liar not only has a job, but got promoted and is pitched as VP material fucking infuriates me.

  • In addition, Bush is now out banging the drum, using the Dems’ terror votes to slam Dems as wanting to “wait until we’re attacked again before responding to threats.” What, like he, Condi, Rumsfeld and Ashcroft did by ignoring Tenent and Black and their crystal clear warning of July 10, and the following week? Or how these same folks ignored the August PDB that bin Laden was going to attack? These criminals had not one but at least two bites at the apple and still waited until we were attacked, at the expense of the lives of almost three thousand people and their families, before they started any kind of response.

    Looks like Clinton’s Fox News smackdown really might have gotten the ball rolling here–had he not done so, Rice would not have specifically come out at this time to counter him, and the comments in Woodward’s book might not have seemed as nefarious.

  • Perhaps it is time for Condi to check into rehab? Something must be causing all these memory problems.

  • In a just world, this would be THE scandal everyone is talking about, and the Foley scandal would come in a distant second. The fact that this administration was warned repeatedly but did absolutely nothing to prevent the deaths of nearly 3,000 people is horrific. If there were ever a case for impeachment and imprisonment, it would be this.

    Add to this the news that Senators Bill Frist and Mel Martinez said we should be integrating Taliban into the Afghan government since we can’t defeat them militarily. Democrats ought to be tripping over themselves in a mad dash to the microphone or post-production booth to denounce this in the harshest terms possible.

  • Phillip Zelikow? I fingered him yesterday. (gloat)
    slip kid no more

    Congressman Foley, I didn’t realize you had Internet access at the rehab center.

  • FYI, reread pp. 235-237 of Richard Clarke’s “Against All Enemies” and recall that his book was delayed (4 months?) by the CIA vetting process.

    I’d love to hear his unfettered take on this (he has confirmed there was a meeting).

  • “Nobody could have imagined using planes as weapons…”

    Play this out from an historical perspective, and it’s totally bogus.

    During the second World War, Germany took the idea to a working level, with the introduction of the unmanned “V” weapons. Japan employed the metaphorical interpretation of the “Divine Wind” prophesy with their Kamikaze groups. North Korea repeatedly used manned aircraft in an attempt to “ram” U.N. aircraft. The entire concept of missiles—both offensive and defensive—is built around the fundamental military concept of a flying object that targets a specific item—primarily, buildings.

    Here’s the simple question: If you take a person who’s willing to blow himself to Allah for a cause, and he’s willing to use a bicycle, or motorcycle, or car, or bus, or truck to achieve his goal, then what’s to prevent him from using a great big flying thing chock-full of jet fuel for the same end?

    They can imagine that a same-sex marriage is a threat to my marriage—but they cannot imagine using a plane as a weapon?

    These people—Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld—and yes, even Herr Bush himself—are all accomplices to the wanton destruction of thousands of lives on “nine-eleven.” They ALL need to resign….

  • The bottom line:

    The only way we can judge intentions and actions is by results. By the end of the summer of 2001, the Bush Administration had successfully convinced the world that nukes raining down from the heavens was the greatest danger facing the United States and that Missile Defense was our number one priority. nuff said.

    Who would FDR torture?

  • Condi just screams for parodies…

    (Sung in William Shatner Pentameter…)
    Picture yourself in a room and a projector
    With terrorist plots and darkening skies
    Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
    A girl with bored stupid eyes

    With Big huge warnings of harsh red and black
    Towering over your head
    Look for the girl with SDI in her eyes
    and she’s gone

    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion, ah

    Follow her logic to a missile from a Korean
    Where nasty commie comrades eat western minds
    Everyone smiles as you scream about Al Qaida
    your voice so incredibly high

    Newspaper flunkies appear on the shores
    Blathering sins of Clinton
    She accuses you of having your head in the clouds
    and you’re gone

    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion, ah

    Picture yourself watching the tv
    With burning towers with holes from the planes
    Suddenly at the commission, the same girl testifies,
    That girl with the bored stupid eyes

    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of Delusion, ah
    Condi in the land of Delusion
    Condi in the land of CYA
    Condi in the land of CYA
    Condi in the land of CYA, ah

  • And,of course, having several of Woodward’s other sources – like Card – come out in public and say that what he says in the book is what they told him, certainly puts the lie to everything else these assholes say about anything.

    What I want to know is, is there anything Rice has ever been right about? I remember back in 1999-2000, she was quoted that the Civil War was unnecessary because the South would have freed the slaves since it “made sense” to stop the system, and that the Civil Rights Movement was unnecessary because things were “evolving in that direction” already?

    Talk about letting the house slaves run ol’ massa’s plantation! The woman is an embarrassment on every level (but then, have you ever met any modern black Republican who isn’t?). Her cousin, the well-known civil rights lawyer in Los Angeles, Connie Rice, was asked about the quotes on the civil war and civil rights, and was downright embarrassed to have to reply that there were “areas of disagreement” between her and her cousin.

  • Now we know why Tenet received his medal: to keep the details of that meeting in July with Rice in the most possible positive terms for the administration. This really is the worst presidency in our history – the level of incompetence, inattention – staggering.

  • You can’t question the veracity of Condi Rice! She has double “PC” protection: she’s black and a woman.

    Nevertheless, she’s embarassment to both groups—and the whole nation.

  • Five years ago, I never would have believed we’d still be trying to piece together bits and scraps of anonymous tips, lies and speculation to fit together a picture of what goes on in this White House. More than half of the American public no longer believes its posturing or propaganda. The administration stands naked before us and thinks we won’t notice. Just once, would somebody tell us the truth?

  • From McClatchy (I like your name for them better: the artists formerly known as Knight Ridder, or TAFKAKR):

    One official who helped to prepare the briefing, which included a PowerPoint presentation, described it as a “10 on a scale of 1 to 10″ that “connected the dots”

    OK, hold. What kind of person is this official? To me, ‘Zelikow muffled him/her for the past 2 years’ doesn’t cut it. Why didn’t he/she speak out, anonymously, until AFTER Woodward writes a book? WHERE WERE THE WHISTLEBLOWERS ???

    As long as no one actually subpoenas this person in an actual investigation, this will remain but a he-said-she-said-blog-entry FOREVER.

  • Democratic House + Democratic Senate = Full congressional investigation of 9/11 and Iraq, and rebirth of the Ethics comittee in the House.

    I’m reserving jubliation at the destruction of these jackasses until I attend their funeral. Nin-com-poops, all of them!

  • Good parody, Dan. We’ll have to start calling you Weird Al Dan-kovich 🙂

    I hear Condi’s IM name is CondiNasti.
    She believes in World Dominatrixion.

  • MNP,

    Reserve the jubilation until the funeral AND you see the dead bodies with wooden stakes driven through their (cold, dead) hearts AND you watch them burn to cinders on a huge funeral pyre. Then, and only then, can we even think about looking to the future.

  • Nice one Dan,

    You forgot to mention you were filking “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” by the Beatles, but the way.

    I need to fix the tune in my head before I start reading the lyrics.

    On, and…

    …. (puffed) Rice must Die!

    Lying self-serving B**CH!

    And Dan, that is actually really wonderful.

  • Who cares what Condi knew and when she knew it? Did you realize that she works out to Led Zeppelin? This is the stuff that Amerika wants to know about. And this is why I make the big bucks and you guys are typing for free.

  • How does someone get to be Secretary of State when all she’s got going for her is being an expert on a country which hasn’t existed for a generation now, can play passable piano at parties, sports spike-heeled black leather boots on a visit to Germany, and apparently sleeps with the President? Oh. Sorry.

  • 2) Rice has consistently said she was never told that summer that Bin Laden might strike inside the US. Did this briefing have such information? According to this story it did. And why does she keep saying this when the Aug 6th memo to the President clearly indicates that Bin Laden was attempting to strike in the US?

    Considering the wording used in Woodward’s book – Tenet, IIRC, comments about holding a gun to Rice’s pinhead and all but pulling the trigger – there logically must have been such information in the meeting, elsewise why the near hysteria?

    I keep hearing how very intelligent Condi Rice is. I have never seen any evidence of it, whatsoever.

    Historical note for Steve on the subject of using planes as weapons – ever heard of Operation Aphrodite? Google it. JFK’s brother died as a result of this weird little project.

  • “Hmmm. Any relation to Dan the Song Parody Man of the Howard Stern show, Dan? ”

    No. No connection to the Stern show whatsoever. I can’t sing worth a damn… Just a slight gift at arranging words.

  • Dale,

    I wonder about Ben-Veniste too. IIRC, he and Zelikow were the people who Tenet discussed the power point with, so I’m wondering if in that meeting it was not made clear that this information had been briefed to Rice, Aschcroft, and Rumsfeld. Or did he claim that the 911 commission never heard about the meeting because he wanted to draw attention to the fact that the meeting didn’t end up in the Report? It seems wierd to me.

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